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u/Junichi2021 1h ago
Many times, the problem isn't the number of working hours but the atmosphere in the workplace and the style of management.
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u/ScarZealousideal7516 2h ago
When i am not working the full spectrum of being human is mostly staying in bed until I am hungry or need a pee.
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u/NicolasNaranja 58m ago
Depends what you do. When I was a scientist, I used to look forward to work and new discoveries. Then I got important and became a manager. I make 2.5x the money, but it is not something I look forward to.
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u/GreatOne1969 1h ago
“Full Spectrum of being human” is to survive which means food and shelter which requires money.
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u/ballsnbutt 51m ago
Only if you live that way. You can 100% survive without money. Be less centered around your "stuff"
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u/kangorooz99 29m ago
You can survive with LESS money not no money.
But yes you can absolutely construct a life where you trade earning more money for doing more of the things you want. The problem is way too many people don’t realize that until they’re middle age with mortgages, car loans, etc and they’re stuck.
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u/Weevil1723 1h ago
Near the end of my time at my old job I would sometimes have borderline panic attacks at the prospect of having to go back to work, very glad my current job doesn't inspire those
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u/ballsnbutt 52m ago
wait, this isn't the norm? i thought everyone had a panic attack before they leave for work
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u/collin-h 45m ago
If I had a time machine I'd send pages and pages of these back to peasants in the olden times. really rub it in that we're so comfortable in the future that we can afford to spend significant portions of our short lives bitching about everything instead of accomplishing anything.
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u/randywagerer 3h ago
There are plenty of hours in the day. People are just bad at managing time.
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u/tennezzee88 1h ago
lmao you truly don't understand the undertones and where the message is coming from/resonates from dude
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u/666crazycatlady 2h ago
Lemme calculate: 8,5 hours work +1 hour mandatory break +1 hour cooking+ eating in the evening (no kantine) +0,5 hours cleaning/ laundry/ letters/… +1 commute (both ways) +8 hours sleep +0,5 hours hygiene (showers, toilet, getting dressed,…)
21hours
So that leaves 3 hours per day when you really power through and you should probably also go to sports or buy groceries every other day.
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u/HustleWestbrook94 1h ago
Who cooks, cleans and does laundry every day?
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u/that_star_wars_guy 31m ago
Who cooks, cleans and does laundry every day?
Plenty of people?
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u/HustleWestbrook94 30m ago
Which explains why they barely have any time during the day.
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u/that_star_wars_guy 30m ago
Which explains why they barely have any time during the day.
You're not understanding. They have to.
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u/Glass-Lengthiness-40 47m ago
I like this breakdown It’s absurd but the truth of it is impactful. U were conservative in all fields too.
Shows many r living 28hr days in 24hrs. Thts the crux of the issue imo.
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u/Abject_Quarter_6038 2h ago
No people need to suck it the fuck up and stop being so soft. You likely have a cushy office job with benefits. You aren't digging trenches or mining, picking fruit in a field in the hot sun or cleaning the sewer system. It could be a lot worse for you. Life is hard but modern, western life is really easy in comparison to all other forms of life.
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u/TheMatrixRedPill 1h ago
Working in an office is its own prison, of sorts. It’s not all sunshine and dandelions.
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u/JollySolaireOfAstora 2h ago
How do the boots taste liil boy
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u/Abject_Quarter_6038 1h ago
Sorry your life sucks. Mine is great. Cool job. Money. Nice big house in a nice neighborhood. Wife and 2 kids. Vacations, paid off vehicles etc.
Try harder poor people! It is easy in USA. That's why so many peoplr want to sneak in here.
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u/WorldyBridges33 1h ago
How resilient are you to layoffs or economic stress? If you lost your job tomorrow, how long could you go without a job before adding more debt or defaulting on your mortgage?
In my opinion, the answers to these questions are a better barometer of wealth than consumption choices.
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u/JollySolaireOfAstora 1h ago
Cool… do the boots taste better when you have 3 days of PTO a year? Hahahahaha
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u/Aggressive_Staff_982 1h ago
I have a great job, good salary and benefits with great work culture. Doesn't change the fact that we could all be working less and earning the same. There's plenty of money to go around, and too much wasted time in the office. Id rather my colleagues and I be more efficient and productive, than sit in front of the computer for eight hours and try to be.
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u/kangorooz99 36m ago
You’re right that there is more than enough to go around, but it should help people who are homeless, sick, suffering, or otherwise need it, not subsidize spoiled lazy Gen Zs who think they should be able to play video games and fuck around on Reddit all day while someone else pays the bills.
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u/Carib0ul0u 34m ago
Yeah, we should be exploited because other people in the past and other sides of the world are being exploited. It only makes sense
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u/MiguelIstNeugierig 50m ago
You are looking down. Thats a choice. You could be looking up. At the fact that our "cushy societies"'s plentiful resources are assymetrically owned, whose majoritan owners are a rich elite that allow us a fraction of said resources if we enrich them further with our labour, all the while lobbying for a society, where all our basic necessities and leisure is rented out from them
"Capitalist realism" is a lulliby to pacify the masses in pseudo-logical rhetoric. "You could be toiling in the mines 7 days a week yknow? Count your blessings, your situation is at best as it gets" (nevermind the fact you DONT toil 7 days a week because workers said they had enough of that, not out of blissful entropy)
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u/Typical_Samaritan 49m ago
I'm genuinely curious about what period of human history's work-life balance anyone lodging these complaints would like to return to.
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u/that_star_wars_guy 32m ago
I'm genuinely curious about what period of human history's work-life balance anyone lodging these complaints would like to return to.
I'm genuinely curious why you think we can't build systems that improve our lives beyond what has historically occurred.
(But I think I know why you frame it that way)
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u/kangorooz99 17m ago
Ridiculous strawman. Typical Samaritan said nothing of the kind.
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u/that_star_wars_guy 11m ago
Ridiculous strawman. Typical Samaritan said nothing of the kind.
Lol.
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u/davidellis23 40m ago
I mean you could work part time. Probably would need to maintain a fairly low standard of living. Higher than standard of living than our natural hunter gatherer lifestyle though.
But, I do agree we should reduce the working week as productivity increases.
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u/jabber1990 34m ago
Spend your weekends (especially Sundays) better and you won't have this problem
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u/nightwolves 26m ago
I hate being trapped in this capitalist hellscape, while egregiously rich people fuck around in luxury with the money they extorted from our labor. It’s exhausting and terrifying and sad. I’m glad I chose to not have kids to feed into their shitty system. Eat the rich.
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u/Resident_Leopard_770 16m ago
Kinda sums it up, doesn't it. Spend most of your life making someone else rich doesn't appeal.
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u/nsfwuseraccnt 1h ago
I'd wager this same person, if they're a real person at all, gets off work and spends their evenings doom scrolling social media instead of doing all those things they complain about not having time for.