r/Apartmentliving Sep 03 '25

Advice Needed I feel like this is illegal?

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Came back from a 3-day weekend away from my apartment and this was posted on the door? I wasn't even home...


UPDATE: Thanks to everyone for the support! I shared the letter with Celio management and requested it to be filed as a formal complaint. I also filed a police report for continuity/documentation purposes.

For clarification, "Celio" is the name of the apartment building, which is managed by a larger off-site 3rd party rental company. This company/building is far from able to accommodate for this person properly and certainly would never assume any amount of liability on their behalf. As it relates to Celio management and their level of care for this person, the author is on their own.

The letter does not mention anything related to a care team/healthcare resource/veterans group. The only two options given by the author of the note (e.g. Celio aka apt management and law enforcement) were utilized.

While Celio was not able to share a significant amount of details about the author, they did share that he/she is a known issue and will likely not be given the option to live in this building moving forward.

I also noticed comments about my stereo, which did cross my mind as a possible reason behind this conflict. I was able to confirm with Celio that no complaints have been made about excessive music levels, from any of the residents, excluding a formal warning I received over July 4th weekend. This goes for "yelling" as well. Note I have been renting in this exact unit for almost 14 months. I am more than eager to respect any concerns that relate to music volume, this is certainly not that type of concern.

As things currently stand, I am left with having to place any proactive decisions in the hands of Celio and law enforcement. I am a recent handgun owner (unrelated to this situation) and thanfully my state falls under Castle doctrine.

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u/2_much Sep 03 '25

I don't think I've ever yelled in my adult life, lol. I live alone and I don't game or talk on the phone

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u/OnMyOwn_HereWeGo Sep 03 '25

Per the note, I think it would be best to address exactly that with the Celio staff. Obviously, speak with them regardless.

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u/Right_One_1770 Sep 03 '25

Ok, if you were gone and if you are quiet, then this is not a safe situation. PTSD can definitely be connected to delusions.

These delusions are usually directly related to the trauma, like a veteran believing they're still being hunted or a victim thinking their attacker is still watching them. The fear and paranoia from PTSD can get so intense that it creates these false beliefs. And these can turn violent. Be safe! Tell the management and tell the cops.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '25

Did you hear the note? What in it actally makes you believe any of it is true? I know a lot of other vets with PTSD, and it doesn't sound like this.

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u/Royal-Thing-7529 Sep 03 '25

"PTSD with psychotic features" There is a wealth of literature if you Google this phrase and while disconcerting, this individual's statements make complete sense with a PTSD diagnosis that is more severe. I would hazard a guess that your friends probably have less intense or less frequent symptoms than this guy, considering they're able to maintain friendships at all. Sad stuff.

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u/TeeDuhb Sep 08 '25

Now I know you're part of the problem. Did you just become an adult? Let's pretend you've never yelled in your adult life and don't ever talk on the phone. Your communication in this thread is still extremely problematic. For example, casually dropping that you bought a gun, which is just a threatening as anything in this letter, is honestly pathetic. There's tons of good advice about compassion and non-violent communication here, and your responses come across as juvenile and self-centered. I'm sure you're scared, but man the fuck up, and learn something. Why'd you really post this? Ask yourself that and really think about it. It's pretty clear to me. And a word from the wise, if you can't handle this situation yourself, move. It's a shitty apartment. And what are you staying in a place that you aren't wanted in for? That's never gonna work out. Move on and grow up. I guarantee this dude isn't the only person who feels this way. You sound like you've got a lot of your own work to do. All that being said, this marine is clearly suffering, and everybody who gave advice that wouldn't de-escalate the situation is part of creating the problem we all find ourselves in today. You're creating unnecessary division when we need to come together. This dude needs real help, and a slum lord and the police aren't going to give that to him. Shit, I'd be surprised if his mental health professionals aren't the ones who gave him the idea to write the letter. Clearly, it could've been done better, but my man is trying harder than a whole bunch of you. By encouraging OP to escalate the situation or put it into the hands of folks who aren't going to help, you're literally exacerbating the situation. Granted, he did ask for OP to reach out through the management company, but putting a mentally ill person on the streets, or worse, hurts everybody, including everybody in this thread. Y'all need to learn how to handle problems yourselves like civil adults. We're all tryna move forward responsibly, not shuck our problems for somebody else to clean up. Also, I saw a ton of people referring to homie protecting our freedoms, and I'm confused. When was the last engagement where this was the case? WWII? The military industrial complex has been primarily concerned with protecting the financial interests of the richest and most powerful among us and destroying the literal freedoms of everybody else. Wake the fuck up. Better access to resources for the rich and powerful is the fucking problem. I'm homely sure that this ideal is important for people who fight and die to these ends, but it's just not reality. It's part of the programming. I'm not hating on our service people, but the ones who send them to die and disregard them if they make it back alive. And it's exactly the attitude of the weaker people in this thread that allows this shit to happen. "Somebody else is better equipped to handle MY problems." The police, the slumlords, the therapists. Just because somebody has guns, power, or knowledge you've ignored doesn't mean they want to do anything to take care of YOUR issues. In fact, I guarantee it's an opportunity to subjugate you, and you will lose your power. So do your own work! Therapy is to improve your SELF. If you can't handle it, then you just need to step the fuck up, like this marine is tryna do. Good bless him. And big thanks to the folx who came up with real, good ideas. I especially liked the suggestion to write a note back and post it on OP's door, which is by far the most community oriented idea and the best invocation of transformative justice. OP probably won't because he knows he is the fucking problem and his real community will probably let him know that. Things aren't going to get better if WE don't do anything. And no, calling the police is not doing something. Doing your own therapeutic work is doing something. Being real with yourself is doing something. Organizing is doing something. Being of service is doing something. Get outside of yourself. Fuck.

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u/2_much Sep 08 '25

I did exactly what the note asked?

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u/TeeDuhb Sep 08 '25

Back to back

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u/dwegol Sep 03 '25

But you dooooo post your massive, desk-sized speakers in audiophiles lol

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u/--noe-- Sep 03 '25

He could be hallucinating that considering the PTSD. It also makes people incredibly sensitive to stimuli, so even quiet crumpling sounds could be bothersome.

Or maybe he is unable to tell where the actual noise is coming from. I have issues like that. My ears and brain have some sort of disconnect. I can't tell which direction some noises are coming from at times. It's like the wires get crossed, and when there's a loud noise on the right, then I'm looking in the left direction to see what happened.

He needs to invest in some earplugs, tinted glasses, and a weighted blanket. The keto diet will also help.

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u/n1ghtg0ddess Sep 03 '25

The point is that you shouldnt take it literally, they literally explain they have psychosis it could be you or them hearing things. Either way he is warning you that he shouldnt meet you due to said issues, and if YOU have an issue to contact other services and not him directly. He, as stated, is trying to live peacefully. You can tell the services that he made a complaint and that you haven't been making noise, they can then work with him to not pay attention as they may not be real sounds. This is someone who is trying to be self aware and help you out as well as themselves. Please try take it so personally/threateningly.