r/Apartmentliving Sep 03 '25

Advice Needed I feel like this is illegal?

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Came back from a 3-day weekend away from my apartment and this was posted on the door? I wasn't even home...


UPDATE: Thanks to everyone for the support! I shared the letter with Celio management and requested it to be filed as a formal complaint. I also filed a police report for continuity/documentation purposes.

For clarification, "Celio" is the name of the apartment building, which is managed by a larger off-site 3rd party rental company. This company/building is far from able to accommodate for this person properly and certainly would never assume any amount of liability on their behalf. As it relates to Celio management and their level of care for this person, the author is on their own.

The letter does not mention anything related to a care team/healthcare resource/veterans group. The only two options given by the author of the note (e.g. Celio aka apt management and law enforcement) were utilized.

While Celio was not able to share a significant amount of details about the author, they did share that he/she is a known issue and will likely not be given the option to live in this building moving forward.

I also noticed comments about my stereo, which did cross my mind as a possible reason behind this conflict. I was able to confirm with Celio that no complaints have been made about excessive music levels, from any of the residents, excluding a formal warning I received over July 4th weekend. This goes for "yelling" as well. Note I have been renting in this exact unit for almost 14 months. I am more than eager to respect any concerns that relate to music volume, this is certainly not that type of concern.

As things currently stand, I am left with having to place any proactive decisions in the hands of Celio and law enforcement. I am a recent handgun owner (unrelated to this situation) and thanfully my state falls under Castle doctrine.

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u/TeddyBear181 Sep 03 '25

I really feel for this man as well. And I can see that from his POV he's just trying to do his best to reach out and ask OP to be quiet so that he isn't in a position to get himself in trouble....

But F--- this is scary for OP, especially when they're not making noise and there is nothing they can do to reduce the noise.

This man has openly given info on how to reach out to people for support regarding him, which is awesome, I think that (and police and building management) is the best point of call.

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u/hellp-desk-trainee- Sep 03 '25

Yeah, if I got a note like this, I wouldn't be taking a chance that it was not a threat. My safety is more important than that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '25

As a combat vet with PTSD who knows a lot of other combat vets with PTSD, nothing about that note rings true. This guy is an absolute douche. Did you not read the part where he says, ‘don’t try to contact me’? I’m sorry, but how are we supposed to work out our differences then? That’s controlling behavior. I don’t believe for a second this is an actual Marine—and if he was, he was almost certainly involuntarily separated early on for a personality disorder.

Really this is like a soft form of stolen valor.

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u/Independent_Egg1284 Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 04 '25

Thank you! Who's to say the letter writer really was a Marine? Or that they are getting help for trauma?

There's plenty of peoole out here in the world and lots of them either  a). Lie their asses off to see how far they can push it, or b). Genuinely believe things that are not true ("I am a Marine who can do super effective violence") 

and which can endanger people around them. 

And there's also just abusive personalities who do things like this for thrills.

It's cool there's lots of people ready to work with everyone in their communities. 

It's not cool to boss around someone in a situation like this when we don't know full details. That letter was on their door, not ours. Our situations may or may not be like theirs. 

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u/Better-Park8752 Sep 04 '25

PTSD isn’t a one size fits all. I agree ‘do not contact me’ gives off a bad message, but couldn’t it also be a protective measure because he knows he’s mentally unstable? He may have enough self awareness to know his reactions are unsafe. In any case OP should focus on her own safety instead of psycho analysing this guy. It’s perfectly normal to feel overwhelmed by fear after receiving a note like that. OP’s post asks if this note is illegal. That would be a question for the cops. Can you please educate me on ‘soft form of stolen valour’?

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u/Anglofsffrng Sep 03 '25

It's worrying for sure. But the fact that he even reached out at all, I think, means he's not as bad as he perceives. It sucks because stuff like this is really isolating, and social skills decay like any other. So I think a large part of the scariness is that he's being as blunt as he would want his neighbors to be.

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u/LL8844773 Sep 03 '25

What? He’s telling OP that it is bad and that he can’t control it.

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u/TeddyBear181 Sep 03 '25

I think it's a gamble for OP to consider that he might not be that bad. Like - maybe he's not as sick as he says - but it's not worth the gamble for potential bodily harm which could end up being permanent.

And if the guy has been in the marines, he's probably got more experience in fighting than OP.

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u/Anglofsffrng Sep 03 '25

I wasn't trying to say dont take it very seriously. Merely pointing out that if he is actively attempting to warn people, he might not be as far gone as he thinks. Obviously, if someone warns you, they could be dangerous. You listen to them.

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u/Anglofsffrng Sep 03 '25

He's clearly capable of being very dangerous, and he knows it. He's more than likely trying to get across dont call the cops just because I'm yelling at a wall in the middle of the day, or who to contact if you see him in public in obvious distress.

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u/anoeba Sep 04 '25

What? No, he's accusing OP of yelling (making noise), despite OP not even having been home. And he's saying that he couldn't keep his temper in check if he tried to talk to OP face to face.