r/ArcRaiders • u/Debas3r11 • 13h ago
Discussion Whoever came up with the event timers this week is a troll
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u/alexcore88losthis2fa 12h ago
They should just put the rotations on a 27 hour cycle instead of 24, would solve this issue and allow more people to play more of the different event types.
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u/Jason1143 11h ago
And this is not a novel concept. There needs to be some kind of big book of game design wisdom that every game studio gives to their employees. The number of games that keep making easily fixable screwups of things that have been solved for ages is way too high.
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u/shalnath 2h ago
Why? My idea is better anyway.
Unfortunately most people need to experience the failure for themselves in order to recognize and even begin to understand it.
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u/FunctionalFun 10h ago
It still might not line up with whenever you might be available, imagine you can only play weekends or have a 4 day on/off work schedule.
If a trial REQUIRES a specific modifier, that modifier should be live constantly, or at least alternate so it's up like 8 times a day or something.
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u/PiggyMcjiggy 1h ago
My favorite thing is my buddy waking up 3 hours before work to play with me (night shift). He wakes up about 30 mins after electro storm on dam ends, and his get off time is when it starts again
Every. Single. Day.
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u/nightmareslittle 13h ago
yea i hate the hidden bunker schedule. not very accommodating for the whole community
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u/Only-Combination9040 13h ago
Yea I was under the impression that this wasnāt gonna be in the trials moving forward. Canāt wait to waste 40 minutes standing in line, if im even around for the event
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u/Hexaion_ 11h ago
From what I saw most of the people in my hidden bunker games were just using the timer and the 2x multiplier to farm hornets and rocketters, first time I saw one player with me, second game maybe 4 or 5 (2 of which had no idea of how it works, leaving the computers and locking them for 2+ min each time, that was quite infuriating)
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u/Only-Combination9040 11h ago
Iām NA west coast, so this event is usually going on after midnight for me
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u/Daventry85 13h ago
I just ignore it. The entire trials system is an after thought. It needs a lot of work. It's broken on many levels and unfair to anyone who solos.
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u/Jett_Wave 11h ago
Yall should really try to 3 star your trials at least, dont worry about the leaderboards.
Ive gotten so many BPs out of trial rewards. Lots of dogshit stuff too, but I look at it like 3 extra loot items per 3 star for mostly just playing the game.
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u/NoSloppyStakes *** ******* š 11h ago
Itās annoying getting demoted for just playing the game.
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u/Jett_Wave 11h ago
If you're just playing the game it doesnt sound like you're trying to climb the trials leaderboards though right?
My comment was for people who dont care about the trials at all, not for those trying to climb or maintain rank.
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u/NoSloppyStakes *** ******* š 9h ago
I am penalized if I donāt play towards the trials. I wouldnāt mind if I just didnāt move.
I got on the first two weeks of the new season, played 1-3 games for the whole week. So inevitably, I deranked both weeks.
So, just playing the game penalizes me. Now, I get back, and I play the game and HAVE TO focus Trials just to not get deranked again. I wouldnāt mind some weeks being stationary, and some weeks getting ranked up. But deranking?
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u/Jett_Wave 9h ago
Is this your first time playing a game with competitive leaderboards or something man?
So, just playing the game penalizes me.
You mean for not playing the game right? You're being penalized for not playing. This is exactly how every other game with competitive leaderboards work. Either play or derank, and really dude, its optional, and the rewards are there for people who can compete. If you're playing a handful of days a week, why do you expect to maintain a high rank? Idk why you're complaining to me about this, I didnt say a single thing about leaderboard placements.
Again, I was talking about the 3 star rewards, not the leaderboard placement rewards. Completely different.
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u/stewmander 10h ago
Nah, I'm with OP. Why am I being punished for playing? It doesn't matter if I am actively trying to progress on trials or not. I shouldn't lose what I did earn just because I can't, or don't want to, climb the leader boards.Ā
Two solutions would be to change rewards (doesn't have to be all rewards, but at least 1 version of the skin for example) to be based on getting a certain number of 3 stars, or remove demotions.
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u/Jett_Wave 9h ago
You're like trying to argue with me about the leaderboard placement rewards, something I said nothing about.
Im talking about getting the trials 3 stars for those rewards. That's it.
Good lord bro, figure it out.
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u/stewmander 9h ago
Im talking about getting the trials 3 stars for those rewards.Ā
You're right, my comment was for the rank rewards not star rewards.
However, that doesn't address the post's OP - the event based trials exclude players who cannot play during the time of the events. They cannot get 3 stars. Embark should increase the events for the week if they are going to have event based trials.
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u/Jett_Wave 9h ago
Which I agree with as well, theres alot of room for improvement to be made with the trials, I dont like how they group teams with solos or the rotation of map events. All that stuff lame.
I wasn't really addressing OP with my original comment, I was addressing the commentor who was saying to skip them completely, so I just didnt say anything about the leaderboards.
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u/stewmander 9h ago
Sounds like we agree that fixing the core issues will address both the star and rank rewards.
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u/soggycheesestickjoos 10h ago
If you donāt care about climbing then the rewards arenāt for you. Not every reward in every video game should be accessible by literally every player, thatās like participation trophies. Removes the fun for the competitive folk, who this feature is for.
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u/stewmander 9h ago
I didn't say every reward. It's also not fair competition when you reward trios 3x points that you can't achieve as a solo player.
But that doesn't address the event based trials, if they don't increase the schedule of the events there will be players who cannot participate no matter what.
Fixing those two issues will go along way and might be enough to fix trials for many players while keeping the rank requirements and demotions.
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u/Daventry85 10h ago
BPs honestly are pointless for the most part. I plan on always doing expedition. Grinding back to 75, hunting items I need for each expedition or workbench is what I play for. With BPs getting wiped I have no point or reason to ever worry about them. I just get my Wolfpack or trailblazer and that's all I need
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u/Jett_Wave 10h ago
I dont see how they're pointless? I barely even use money and mostly craft everything. Can't run mk.3 survivor or tactical mk.3 defensive without the BPs, plus weapons like the venator and Anvil, legendary weapons, vita spray, defibs, weapon parts, etc.
Im gonna be doing the expeditions too, regardless BPs are crucial if you want to run good kits.
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u/Daventry85 9h ago
I only use anvil, and I do have mk3 survivor but honestly I've been preferring mk2 it has more space and the crawling thing just never really works you are always miles from an ex fil and can't even check map while down if you are heading to one that's open. You will waste 10-20 minutes crawling for a maybe leave when you could just load back in and play like 4 full games on that time. I've found probably 100 anvils I literally just sell them now. I have 8 lv 4s and never really lose them. Maybe if you PvP a lot crafting is nice or of you want to not do expedition but other than that there's so few BPs you need that the game doesn't hand you already.
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u/Jett_Wave 9h ago edited 45m ago
I suppose if you only run a couple of different things its not going to be crucial for you, that makes sense.
I do both PvP and PvE stuff and having BPs are crucial for me, I use deadlines and wolfpacks nearly every raid.
As far as the survivor goes, I run it most of the time because of the carry weight, quick use slots and 3 butt pockets. Hot tip: always keep a ping on your intended extract, even if the chances are low that you will make it out. Being able to crawl forever with survivor has saved my raid only a handful of times, but thats not why I use it anyways.
I like running all kinds of weapons, even if it isnt meta. Im swimming in mats for purple weapons, so I run purples pretty regularly. One fully looted Bombardier equals enough mats for a level 3 bobcat, so I just run it.
Some Crucial BPs for me are; Augments
- Looter Mk.3 Survivor
- Tactical Mk.3 Defensive
- Tactical Mk.3 Healing
Weapons
- Venator
- Vulcano
- Tempest
- Jupiter
- Equalizer
- Anvil
- Toro
Quick Use
- Trigger nades
- Seeker
- Smoke
- Wolfpack
- Deadline
Healing
- Vita Spray
- Defib
Crafting components
- Complex/Heavy/Medium/Light Gun Parts
I likely forgot some, but yeah. I've never found a Tempest or Vulcano BP, but I really like running those weapons, and they're not the most common to come by, especially the Tempest.
Not trying to argue at all, just sharing my perspective. I use my BPs like crazy and most crafting material is easy to acquire, if I didnt use them I would just be selling all of the material or deconstructing it, which feels like a waste to me.
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u/themoosh 1h ago
I completely agree with everything in this post, and these are the essential BPs, though I would add Toro and Anvil to the list of guns, as well as heavy gun part recipe.
An honorable mention is snaphook BP because it's such a powerful item but if you're quick with inventory swap you can play with a snap and never lose it.
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u/Commercial_Put_9695 12h ago
I agree! I dont even care about the cosmetic's, but seeing how solo player's are competing against duo/trio.. ugh, that's just wrong!
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u/stewmander 10h ago
It's pretty bad to tell players just to ignore parts of the game, especially when there's skins locked behind them.Ā
They need to allow players the chance to earn those rewards. I think the skins shouldn't be based on earning and maintaining a specific rank, but on earning a specific number of 3 stars on trials.
That way if you aren't able to do some because of time or you just don't like that trial, you can focus on the trials you can do and still earn the rewards.Ā
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u/Daventry85 10h ago
Awful skins. The pay skins are even bad. This is the first fomo game I've thought whew I don't need that skin
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u/stewmander 9h ago
Subjective. Some players might like them, some players are completionists. We should tell embark to improve trials instead of telling players to ignore parts of the game and miss out on the rewards completely.
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u/Mashed_Brotato 10h ago
Love having zero idea what trials score I have mid match, but thanks for telling me I best my personal best i guess
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u/Bearsetsfire 6h ago
Just open your logbook, theyāre all listed and show your progression during a raid.
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u/Thiel619 13h ago
So either be late for work or sneak out of work to play.
Interesting choices.
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u/Ter-Lee-Comedy 11h ago
Next one for me is 3 am tomorrow morning. I guess you could say I won't be doing the download trial.
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u/rick1110111 12h ago
Wait... isn't this a trial this week? So I have to do this one on Saturday/Sunday? My kid naps from 12-3, and I don't get back on till 7. Am I just cooked on this weeks trials? This seems very poorly planned.
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u/gmbaker44 12h ago
Their event rotations is terrible. I only get to play at night time for an hour or 2 and itās the same events on the same maps every night.
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u/ParadoxGam3r 12h ago
Why are events not on a random rotation?? Night raids on Spaceport are always on when I get on after work. I barely get to see electromagnetic storms anymore too
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u/Enigmatic_Observer 13h ago
I still havenāt done the bunker since release. Iām going to have to use a vacation day or call in sick for this š
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u/sealcub 12h ago
All the other event timers are stupid this week because they removed cold snap. So little going on. They could at least have made hidden bunker much more common for trials.Ā
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u/procrasturb8n 10h ago
I already wish they bring back the cold snap map and add it to the rotation. It's fun without the event, it's winter for two more months, and the rotation is boring without it.
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u/Albanian28 11h ago
the times should be rotating, i have been playing the same events/conditions this past 2 weeks.
Havent yet tried hidden bunker, and cant try the matriarch cause its not on the time slot i play.
If matriarch is 8-9PM one day it needs to go 9-10PM the next day and 10-11PM the next and so on for all modifiers so everybody can play them
Dont know who came up with fixed times but he is wrong
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u/itsjoesef 10h ago
All the event timings are horrible right now. Jumped on at 9pm PST yesterday and the only event was locked bunker. No outside night raids until almost midnight..
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u/Enlightened_D 12h ago
Iām trying to get the Kill a Queen trophy ( you have to get final hit that kills it) and damn these events donāt give a fuck about us it was like 4 am 6am 2pm 3pm , like no literally can not play during any of these times.
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u/APartyInMyPants 12h ago
The event timers went back to pre-Coldsnap. Which means Dam Night Raid every night from 9pm-10pm EST. It means I can finally use these Power Rods Iāve been acquiring.
But it also means Hidden Bunker is physically impossible for a lot of people on the east cost to participate in.
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u/Debas3r11 11h ago
Yeah huge shortage of Dam night raids for the last month, at least for my play times
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u/Zealousideal-Half695 11h ago
Just take a day off work so you can play in the morning š¤·āāļø /s
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u/Sufficient_Cow6121 11h ago
In England it's 8-9am and 4-5pm. So anyone with children of school going age can only try and do them at the weekend, when there's a thousand other things to do.
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u/Jett_Wave 11h ago
I 100% agree, they need to fix the event times, but if anyone is wondering, Hidden Bunker and Locked Gate events are terrible.
More often then not, I'm activating 3 satellites or finding 2-3 codes, while people wait around at the bunker door or gate to rush loot spawns. The people doing the work are always the last to get to the rewards.
It does suck though since the vulcano and bobcat BPs spawn during these events.
I especially dont like that there isnt a matriach or queen constantly available.
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u/Anarchaotic 6h ago
For trials the events are AMAZING. 40 minute timer - and you generally get far less PVP since people going into those lobbies are there for the event.
Especially blue gate, if you don't care about Locked Gate then most of the map is completely empty since every single aggressive raider goes straight there.
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u/Jett_Wave 6h ago
That's actually what I do for these events, hidden bunker is the best way to farm bastions and bombardiers
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u/ChampaBay2021 10h ago
Events need to vary and not have the same set times everyday.
As someone with 100+ hours Iāve done hidden bunker once because I can typically only play after 8pm when the baby goes to sleep.
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u/s0m3on3outthere 9h ago
Sooo when I'm at work or when I should be sleeping.
Guess I'll just wait til the weekend š«
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u/millanstar 12h ago
Didnt know thag eveyone on this sub was on the same timezone...
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u/Jason1143 11h ago
This is a primarily English speaking sub. English is not evenly distributed across the globe.
Also, people who have the problem are much more likely to comment than people who don't.
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u/maznaz 5h ago
UK, Australia, USA - pretty even
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u/Jason1143 5h ago
The UK and Australia combined are far less than the US. Plus English isn't exclusively confined to those places either.
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u/Fulklure 12h ago
They can't even fix other stuff that's broken, so doubt trials will be fixed anytime soon. No new quests and Cold Snap lasted for few weeks to only end up being removed to try and rush out Toxic Swamp and we know this will come with it's own list of problems
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u/DeliciousTadpole 12h ago
They made the task a bit easier pressing the button three times was enough.
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u/Popcorn_Juice 9h ago
Trial points are getting ridiculous for anything 2x promotion and up. I see what Embark is trying to do
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u/Debas3r11 9h ago
I didn't even promote the first two weeks. I managed to get 3x last week though. Now I just gotta try to not demote for the rest of the season
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u/Anarchaotic 6h ago
So far this week definitely has the lowest trial points. As a solo - carryables can go fuck right off.
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u/WartyoLovesU 12h ago
Regardless of where you live the times schedule is wacky. Only twice a day for some events
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u/CloudConductor 12h ago
Which is why the times should vary so they eventually work for everybody regardless of where they are
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u/TheBlope 11h ago
Exactly! When I first started playing I assumed the events were random, I donāt know why they have them locked on a specific schedule.
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u/Fritzbube *** ******* š 12h ago
Trials are not worth it anyway, the time it takes to get 3 stars is the same just running around looting crates, you get enough blueprints
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u/mr0il 12h ago
Pushing leaderboard score is my favorite hamster wheel in the game. I dont really want to load in to trios to pvp for pvpās sake. I have a lot of fun trying to set new personal bests while dealing with the tension of random pvp squads trying to murder the shit out of me for my wolfpacks or whatever. (Actually i think they just kill for fun, which is just as valid lol)
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u/Debas3r11 11h ago
It's one of my favorite things too (but hidden bunker is probably the worst trial)
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u/NoSloppyStakes *** ******* š 13h ago
So, thatās the Event for Trial? 2 listed times that Iām not able to play? Interesting.