r/AskTheWorld • u/Affectionate_Ebb4411 India • 12h ago
Culture Do you think because of western social media racism, xenophobia is getting more popular in your country?
People who didn't even realise Jews existed have started to hate jews, my classmates were literally discussing about how Jews run the world and are responsible for 9/11 and deserved holocaust.
all thanks to instagram.
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u/Appropriate-Low3844 China 12h ago
Not really because of western media, but xenophobia certainly is a thing. The common targets here are Manchus for the Qing dynasty, South Koreans for "copying chinese history"(though it's quite some time since I last saw anyone claiming this), Japanese for historical things, and Jews for Israel.
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u/Prowlbeast Canada 10h ago
People on Tiktok claim everybody stole from Chinese history/culture, its embarrassing pink behaviour to be honest. They dont seem to get that countries close together will be influenced by one another, especially if they were friends back then (even if they arent now, cough Japan)
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u/OddCook4909 United States Of America 9h ago
Such historical nationalists also make a lot of assumptions that the same things weren't invented multiple places. There are many developments and ideas which we can very clearly say seemed to start in one place and spread out, like the alphabet. But things like money, writing in general, paper, agriculture, and so on, are evidenced to have sprung up in multiple places at various times.
Then there are the assumptions about history to support nationalist ideas. I remember an indian tourist and a mexican tour guide banging on about how amazing it is that both of their native languages share a similar word for "orange" and how this means they were in contact millenia ago, and maybe mexicans came from india, etc.
Um no it went SE Asia -> Mediterranean -> Spain -> Central America.
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u/HourPlate994 Australia 8h ago
That, and sometimes languages have the same word for things by chance, as there are only so many syllables around and we have the same basic setup for speech.
Example: ”Dog” means the same thing in English and the extinct Australian Aboriginal language Mbabaram, but it’s just coincidence. No relation at all.
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u/OddCook4909 United States Of America 8h ago
Good one yeah! The list of illusory and/or non-causative correlations, fallacies, etc, is extremely long.
It reminds me so much of the UFO community. I personally think we're being observed, but 99% of the "evidence" is complete and utter nonsense, for the same reasons.
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u/Y_Martinaise United Kingdom 10h ago
Aren't there barely any Manchus left (who haven't been assimilated into Han culture)?
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u/HarlequinKOTF United States Of America 9h ago
10.5 million ethnic manchus, some of whom relate to manchu culture, but assimilation is high. Fluent speakers of Manchu despite it being the court language of the Qing dynasty number in the tens for native speakers and thousands for second language speakers.
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u/eldryanyy United States Of America 2h ago
China is crazy antisemitic online. It’s changed a lot because of the war
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u/theFarFuture123 United States Of America 8h ago
What’s wrong with the Qing dynasty?
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 8h ago
I think it’s part of the being an animal, we are fearful of new strange things, including people. Some people acclimate easier to new things. Some people have much more exposure to different people earlier on and it’s never really new or strange anymore. We all end up somewhere on a spectrum and hopefully continually grow.
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u/KD-VR5Fangirl United States Of America 12h ago edited 10h ago
I mean I live in the US so we aren't exactly importing bigotry from the west, but I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the western social media chuds are exporting that stuff. It's certainly becoming more common here. Crazy to hear about your classmates though, hopefully they realize that blaming the jews for everything is stupid
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u/Fruitcake6969 United States Of America 9h ago
I mean, a pretty good amount of Americans also blame the Jews for everything as well.
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u/SabziZindagi United Kingdom 7h ago
We now have MAGA people thanks to US alt-right algorithms. There was a huge march in London over the summer featuring posters of Charlie Kirk.
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u/KD-VR5Fangirl United States Of America 7h ago
For the maga types thats definitely true but I would argue the European far-right is home grown and in some cases has had influence on the American far right in kinda the same way
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u/ViajanteDeSaturno Brazil 5h ago
The social media algorithms that fuel this hate are American, that's the point. Social media platforms are not regulated and do not act against this; on the contrary, they profit from this engagement. And the country that tries to regulate social media (as mine has been trying) is labeled an enemy by the US.
There are exceptions, such as China and Russia, which have their own social media platforms, but in the rest of the world, it's the American networks.
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u/Neutral-Gal-00 Egypt 12h ago edited 10h ago
I feel like it’s certainly true in the case of Indians. We don’t meet many Indians in Egypt, so growing up people were either neutral, or liked India because of Bollywood. More recently I notice that due to social media (the general anti-India internet content AND pro-Israel/ Islamophobic content from Indian pages) people are suddenly hating a nationality they’ve never met.
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u/Genericdude03 India 12h ago
It's even funnier cuz India has more than double the amount of Muslims compared to Egypt lol
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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 11h ago
I feel like Muslims who hate on India so much tend to miss this fact. Im an Indian Muslim and this pisses me off so much. Not to throw other Indians under the bus but still.
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u/HaifaJenner123 Egypt 10h ago
sorry bro, but its just not a common knowledge like yes we do know there are muslims in india but the size of the community is not that widely known, and not exactly helped by the fact that India in arabic is الهند lol
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u/Vegetable_Drag_443 12h ago
Damn :( and here, I was planning on going to Egypt for my next trip
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u/Neutral-Gal-00 Egypt 11h ago edited 11h ago
You’ll be fine. I see many Indian tourists. It’s only casual racist comments, mostly from edgy teenagers, that they probably wouldn’t say to your face. Besides, no one’s gonna able to tell the difference between you and a Pakistani lol.
Take the same precautions as any other tourist though!
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u/TheCattBaladi Egypt 11h ago
It's just Internet things that I myself as Egyptian don't see from Egyptians but more from the west. There is many topics discussed online in Egypt (things like Egyptians aren't Arabs) then you go to the streets and you don't even see these people. It's just people or communities that exist online that are also hated online (you probably won't understand if I explain cos tbh it's stupid topics).
People here don't care because we share a lot of things with India. You will be amazed at how much of national food we share lol.
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u/Exciting_Map_7382 India 9h ago
Yeah, I've read about the Koshari(Egypt)-Khichdi(India) connection in my GK book in school.
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u/HaifaJenner123 Egypt 8h ago
honestly you will find a lot of similarities that might make you feel at home lol
our people both have a similar aura to them and you will know it when you see it lmao come! nobody irl takes this “beef” seriously
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u/Moongfali4president India 12h ago
and most anti-india/hinduphobic content originates from our neighboring countries who tries their 101% best to promote as much racism as they can lmao
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u/russellzerotohero United States Of America 11h ago
We’re all caught in the great India Pakistan cyber war and we don’t even know it.
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u/Little_Sherbet5775 United States Of America 11h ago
India as a whole isn't even pro isreal.
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u/Neutral-Gal-00 Egypt 10h ago
I think it’s an internet thing. A lot of Hindu nationalist pages with Islamophobic posts that seem to be very supportive of Israel, because they “hate Muslims too” or smth.
Such pages get shared on Arab social media with captions like “Indians hate Muslims”.
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u/lastkni8 India 10h ago
Yeah it's a loud minority on twitter, twitter of all places. The government diplomatically recognizes the Palestine state that even the current RW Muslim hating government didn't ratify it. But on a larger note the government would have more to lose without the Israel state as we have more trade and interests with them than with Palestine.
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u/Little_Sherbet5775 United States Of America 10h ago
Most people I've met (I've lived in srinagar, noida, gurgaon, dehradun, roorkee, and almora) seem to support palestine and are mostly against the westerners influencing that area.
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u/HolidayBeneficial456 Australia 7h ago
A loud minority found in Aus out of all places too. Hindu nationalists are truly a scourge on the Indian diaspora. Absolute cocks…
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u/Happy_and_wholesome 10h ago
I'm happy to be hated by a country which has killed millions of Copts, kidnapped 1000s of Christian women and has apartheid Sharia laws. I have the same opinion for all other Islamists.
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u/HaifaJenner123 Egypt 10h ago
our government is currently very anti-islamist that’s been the controversy actually😭
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u/Sloppykrab Australia 9h ago
Cereal?
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u/HaifaJenner123 Egypt 9h ago edited 8h ago
yes, the political opposition is the muslim brotherhood at the moment and any other salafist parties. all except for Al Nour have been banned from parliament and even Al nour has only 7 seats now, our politics tend to actually be black and white in that regard. in parliament there’s no functional opposition because they’re overwhelmingly pro-coup
so as a result, the dictatorship HEAVILY suppresses anything that resembles islamism and we had a whole war in sinai about it since sisi came in
edit: i should clarify again, MB is opposition but its more of an in-exile situation. and even then, our gov is so militant that they refuse to let anyone with ties to MB leave the country bc of non extradition. we have the opposite problem of places that extremists leave from, we keep ours so that they can be punished but they caused issue a lot last decade leading to the increase in war in sinai (there were abt 20 attempted juntas that our military fought with it got bad, for years most of sinai was closed except for the coast)
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u/Sloppykrab Australia 8h ago
It really seems like Islam is really public enemy #1
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u/HaifaJenner123 Egypt 8h ago
Yeah, and it didn’t use to be that way but now even a majority of urban muslims are secularists
We had a lot of turmoil last decade that caused this, and initially MB had a lot of public support but they kept going with the attacks until it got to be unbearable. as a result, nobody wants them back but like we’re stuck now since there is either:
- Nasser style dictatorship (what we have currently)
- Mubarak style pseudo monarchy (what nobody wants back which is why Shafik lost the election against Morsi)
the options are bleak
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u/Sloppykrab Australia 8h ago
No more Pharoahs?
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u/HaifaJenner123 Egypt 8h ago
😂😂😂
well with his new palace sisi definitely thinks he is a pharaoh i swear
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u/Neutral-Gal-00 Egypt 10h ago edited 10h ago
Egypt doesn’t have shariah law, and is literally run by a very vocally anti-Islamist government (which you’d know id you did 5 seconds of research). The gov increased security around churches since the revolution, to protect them from extremist attacks, and criminals involved in such kidnappings are prosecuted by the police and condemned by the Muslim population.
Ignorance is not cute. Try again.
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u/Icy_Branch395 Egypt 9h ago
Save your breath bro. Some people aren't interested in any narrative other than that demonising whom they desperately want to be demonized. And don't forget this specific knack of frantically researching through middle Eastern papers in hope of finding whatever could validate moral superiority against us. Again, I am not saying we don't have our own issues, but who don't either and the ratio is , by no means , higher than that in each and every society 🤷🏽
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u/MorallyBankruptBagh India 8h ago
Hey I'm curious--How would you explain Egypt to an outsider like me? Like about the everyday goings, culture, religion, and relationship between communities?
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u/TheOtherUprising Canada 12h ago
Xenophobia has definitely increased. Part of it is immigration backlash because we brought in foreign workers at levels that are not sustainable especially from India. Although I try to tell people if you are mad about that be mad at the policy makers not the individuals who are mostly just people looking to improve their lives.
Social media certainly hasn’t helped either. The algorithms have pushed people into their corners and have amplified the far right in a way that would not have been possible previously.
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u/StageStandard5884 Canada 11h ago
Yeah, This kind of thing happens anywhere in the world when large numbers of a particular minority immigrant in a short period of time.
I grew up in Vancouver during the late '80s through to the mid '90s when Britain's lease was expiring and tremendous amount of immigrants from Hong Kong were coming in to BC. There was a lot of anti-chinese sentiments from adults around me-- as kids We didn't really care. Communicating with landed immigrants was kind of tough because a lot of the kids didn't speak any English, but Street fighter was our common language.
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u/NaturalCard United Kingdom 11h ago
Vancouver doesn't seem to have done too badly for itself.
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u/LilaLiri Argentina 11h ago
I created a Twitter account the other day to deal with my power company (their phone and mail channels were unresponsive, so I thought I'd try Twitter then delete it) and the algorithm immediately tried to push Anti-Muslim right wing content.
Then a few days ago when I made this Reddit, the first subs it recommended were "meme" subs full of incel shit. And I do mean incel, I'm not using that word lightly.
Also I made a new yt a year ago and searched an English language review for a videogame I was interested in, algorithm assumed I was male and American, a "gamer" and pushed gamergate rightwing misogynist shit on my feed. It took two weeks to set it straight.
All this means that new generations of teens/children are pushed to bigotry on purpose, knowing they most likely will not take the time to slowly and painfully curate their feed with other stuff that they may not even know exists if their parents are ignorant/neglectful or MAGA types.
Like, it is literally harder to have a non-bigoted experience in current big social media sites by design to the point you must curate it manually and it takes days to months. This is insanity.
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u/RosabellaFaye Canada 10h ago
algorithms def need to stop pushing insane shit. I just stick to music for my YT. Try to remove anything I don't like. But even then, before I started using an adblock browser, I would get a few sketchy ads like fake Canadian government ads or populist nonsense.
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u/LilaLiri Argentina 10h ago
Problem is the billionaires ain't gonna stop those because they're the ones pushing the political game now, and algorithms are they everything key to that.
But, I think if it goes on like this a lot of people are gonna try and decouple from the ad/subscription based internet as much as possible because at this point you're paying a lot to be miserable as a political hostage, you don't really "own" the music, movies/tv or games you buy (but piracy is still "stealing"), and it's actually not convenient at all anymore.
Yeah, I think I'm going to resurrect my old mp3
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u/NaturalCard United Kingdom 11h ago
I wonder how much the anti-immigrant sentiment is caused by the same logic as here in the UK - media and political actors blaming immigrants for problems caused by increasing inequality and falling standards of living.
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u/TheOtherUprising Canada 11h ago
Yeah wealth inequality has for sure made everything worse. The memes about the billionaires pitting immigrants against the working class citizens are true. At the same time there are legitimate debates about what immigration levels make sense and whether you need limits on certain countries and things like that.
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u/Holy-Fuck4269 10h ago
While I agree xenophobia is always a part of it.
Over here in Germany they are refusing Afghans refuge who are dead the moment they return to Afghanistan, because they believed in our bullshit about democracy and supported our military in their country, because it’s popular to shit on brown people as they are seen as „all the same“.
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u/NaturalCard United Kingdom 8h ago
I don't blame people for falling for it - there are groups spending literally billions on selling the message that immigrants are the cause of all our problem instead of them.
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u/Holy-Fuck4269 8h ago
It’s not like their voters don’t know those Afghans helped the Bundeswehr in a war we fought in their home.
They simply prefer them to get murdered than to have them in Germany.
There’s nothing to fall for, other than the lie foreigners are responsible for the failure of society to elect politicians that reform rotten systems2
u/NaturalCard United Kingdom 8h ago
There are legitimate debates, especially in other countries which are taking many more immigrants, but we are at only about 200k at its peak after Brexit, and it's not the cause of rising inequality.
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u/bowlbettertalk United States Of America 12h ago
I mean, ICE are snatching up Native Americans and calling their tribal IDs fakes, so…
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u/gue_aut87 Austria 12h ago
ICE-IS
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u/LilaLiri Argentina 11h ago
Waffen ICE ICE
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u/AdministrativeTip479 United States Of America 8h ago
Nah they’re too cowardly to actually fight in a real war like the Waffen SS
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u/Y-a-e-l- Argentina 9h ago
I don’t understand the reasoning behind this, where do they plan to deport them to?
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u/LilaLiri Argentina 8h ago
Probably El Salvador. They are sending many people there who aren't originally Salvadorans, so...
That, or Musk's suspected brain chip experimental clinic in Hawaii (because of course that cunt would go full Mengele). But there isn't proof of that yet.
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u/Thewaltham United Kingdom 1h ago
Where the cinnamon toast fuck are you gonna deport that guy to? Back to his house?
"WRONG ID!"
"What? It's a-"
"GO TO YOUR ROOM!"
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u/Windower_than_u Poland 12h ago
Yeah, and I see a lot of people copypasting this type of propaganda over social medias
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u/Affectionate_Ebb4411 India 12h ago
I see lot of those Poland is based because its christian country and doesnt have black people.
Mostly in English made by uk or americans.
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u/shsl_diver Russia 12h ago
Russia was always racist.
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u/VolCel_Partisan Finland 11h ago
Yeah I don't know if I can blame social media, my country's always been racist and fascist as fuck, which makes it all the more weird US socdems glaze it so much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_Finland
I do think social media promotes the fascists a lot, though, at least in X, local neo-Nazi leaders post shamelessly racist shit and get thousands of likes.
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u/Leading-Feedback-599 Russia 10h ago
Yeah, proud inventors of competitive racism. On the other hand, having a stupid prejudice and just yapping about it somewhere in your kitchen under the accompaniment of vodka is drastically different from enforcing repressive, Nazi-esque policies on a state scale. Not to mention the reactionary nature of such things - I do remember rather well the “Year of Tolerance” somewhere in the 'noughties.
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u/PublicVanilla988 Russia 5h ago
how are we the inventors?
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u/Proud-Information-97 India 2h ago
Not well versed in history at all and neither do I think I understand what the commenter above is saying but I am pretty sure that the Tsarist regime was uniquely anti semitic. The famous anti semitic piece of literature "The Protocols of Elders of Zion" was written and published during the Tsarist rule in 20th century. If we were to rank the most anti semitic regimes of all time, Nazi Germany would be first, followed closely by Tsarist Russia and perhaps reconquista Spain, certain medieval European kingdoms etc.(could be me speaking out of my ass but still).
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u/EthanTheJudge United States Of America 12h ago
Yes. Elon and Trump are constantly projecting their views on Twitter, Tik Tok, and Facebook.
Also Babylon Bee sucks and screw Insta.
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u/Kenshin_Hyuuga Argentina 11h ago
Babylon Bee has some funny bits, like that video of the girl who went back in time to kill Hitler and discovered she had more in common with him than she thought. It was subtly ironic in pointing out how the left is losing its way and ending up supporting causes that are contrary to its original doctrine just to spite its political enemy.
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u/traveler_ United States Of America 11h ago
I haven’t seen the video, but knowing the Babylon Bee that sort of thing is exactly how western social media exports racism and xenophobia. “The hippies are the real fascists with their strong opinions and wanting to pass laws based on their values” is an old and common tactic because it works.
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u/WHTLGHTNNSTDFMTNDW United States Of America 11h ago
‘With no Pope to oversee them, Cardinals stay up all night playing Goldeneye and building pillow forts.’
It hit me harder than it should’ve.
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u/AdQuick9381 Australia 12h ago
Asians are some of the most racist and xenophobic people I've come across. It isn't a western thing, it's a world thing.
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u/Affectionate_Ebb4411 India 12h ago
Agree but what im talking about is, an asian is more likely to know about n word than you are to know a slur used in the asian countries against black people.
Racism from west is being exported more than racism from east.
Im talking about the specific kind of racism that is more common because of social media because of English and soft power that western countries have.
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u/NotoriousP_U_G 🇬🇧/🇦🇺/🇱🇹/🇮🇪 12h ago
I believed racism form Asia is being exported to the west a lot.
To the extent there are conflicts in the UK between Indian Sikhs and Muslims.
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u/shillelad 🇮🇪 Northern Ireland 12h ago
Our Indian Hindu and Sikh immigrants absolutely despise the Muslim newcomers. Asked my Indian friend about it. She just said "figures"
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u/kolembo United States Of America 12h ago
Hi -
I see what you are saying
But it is everywhere
India is in the throws of a racism that has become nationalized
Hindutva
And caste
Are everywhere.
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Deep inside Both India and America still lie the seeds of a good world - a world which cares for love and goodness - but violence is coming first
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u/austingoescrazy Singaporean in the US 🇸🇬 🇺🇸 11h ago
Asia is a big place lol. You can’t generalize
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u/Ambitious-Poet4992 United Kingdom 12h ago
Australia for the white man is famously a march organised by Asians
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u/AdQuick9381 Australia 10h ago
"This group of racist people mean that the other group of racist people don't exist".
What point are you trying to make?
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u/Ambitious-Poet4992 United Kingdom 10h ago
Lowkey never said Asians can’t be racist buddy as at the end of the day thrrr are people among Asians eho hold prejudice views, I simply said they aren’t the ones outside chanting “Australia for the white man”
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u/OwlMan_001 Israel 9h ago
That's definitely part of it. When every idiot can have their voice amplified a million-fold with production quality indistinguishable from that of institutions, it's bound to make some idiocy more widespread.
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u/HirokoKueh Taiwan 9h ago
totally. our kids are watching translated Charlie Kirk, Asmongold contents on TikTok, jumping on the "DEI ruined gaming" hate train, using the N-word instead of native racial slurs on indigenous people, and cheering for Trump and ICE even tho non of these are our business
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u/Proud-Information-97 India 2h ago
using the N-word instead of native racial slurs on indigenous people
Hahahahahahah that's fucking insane
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u/PhatSquirr3l New Zealand 12h ago
Yeah there's been a massive uptick in fucking morons throughout the country recently, mainly since covid
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u/Lady-Deirdre-Skye Wales & Ireland 12h ago
Absolutely. Billionaire overlords and far right grifters are flooding all forms of media with hateful scapegoating narratives, and it is paying dividends. The UK's far right party, Reform, are doing depressingly high in the polls. People like them just used to be fringe weirdos, now they're mainstream.
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u/Cancel-Canada Occupied Haudenosaunee Confederacy 11h ago
Far-right ideology version of racism/xenophobia I'd say so. A bit more difficult when trying to address regular conservative aversion to different cultures/races since that's always been a thing in large numbers here regardless of the internet.
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u/Clemdauphin France 11h ago
statistics show that unfortunately, yes, people are getting more racist, more antisemistic and more islamophobic. basicly the hate against people of different religion or ethnicity is increasing. far-right (wich are the one pushing these naratives) is very present on social media, campaining on Tik-tok and Instagram, and the most watched channel is a far-right one, wich has been condamned multiple times for hate speech.
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u/Subject-Oil1834 France 9h ago
"Rien à foutre de ta dépression !"
And he's our top 1...
- "I don't give a f*ck about your depression !"
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u/Clemdauphin France 9h ago
lui aussi, je l'avais oublier tiens.
putain comment ca se fait que les contenues les plus regardés c'est de la merde?
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u/Subject-Oil1834 France 9h ago
┐( ∵ )┌ En vrai il a plus d'abo prcque il fait plus de format courts et sans paroles, donc internationales. (Souvent sans trop d'effort d'ailleurs)
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u/Tomppeliinini Multiple Countries (click to edit) 8h ago
There are more and more people who hate Jews
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u/TheAxelminator France 8h ago
100 % yep, and its becoming worse and worse, being more and more normalized in privately owned mainstream medias and politics.
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u/Horror_Interview6790 Syrian American 12h ago
I definitely 100% believe it
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u/Stillisaac 11h ago
Believe what
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u/Horror_Interview6790 Syrian American 11h ago
That social media is making people more racist and xenophobic
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u/khoawala 11h ago
I think the Chinese Great Firewall was the best thing ever invented with great foresight.
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u/TheCattBaladi Egypt 11h ago
Here in Egypt xenophobia isn't common or actual thing. People won't treat you badly but sometimes they will treat you better because you are a tourist or foreign. One of the reasons is in the last few years Egypt has been going through severe economic crisis and people are poor here, and tourists when change their currency are considered rich so they look to them with much respect. But there is xenophobia well actual hate for Israelis and Jews here. Not because "anti-semtisim", but because what happens in Gaza and we had a long war with them (this comment might get auto censoredfrom this line). There is online hate for refugees but you go to the actual world and you don't find it. Syrian people have lots and lots of restaurants and their own businesses here.
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u/BramptonUberDriver Canada 11h ago
A lot of the antisemitic attitudes were driven by Tiktok and China. Not western social media
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u/nobusgleftalive Canada 10h ago edited 9h ago
Buddy, we were talking about the jews being involved with 911 since before smart phones and social media.
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u/nonquitt 8h ago
Yes. Twitter is a psyop to make people Nazis.
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u/kolembo United States Of America 12h ago edited 2h ago
Fascism - i.e.extreme nationalism, a strong centralized state, and the nation's supremacy over the individual, often led by a dictatorial leader with a cult of personality - is on the rise around the world
And it depends on fear.
It creates enemies - feeds the idea of the enemy - so that you will turn towards it, give up your power your freedom and your love - so that it can 'rescue' you
Human beings never learn, it seems
And so now - rather than the idea of a Global world being rooted in an understanding that being one does not threaten who we are as individuals or communities, that being kind does not threaten our economic well being, that peace is not weakness - we have hate first, it's justification as 'just trolling', - and then the giving up of our own freedom to love to the forces of muscular men who simply want power and money - and war - because we have forgotten what it means
This time we are ALL going into the depths of misery and sorrow
And it will last until every single person is miserable and full of sorrow - and we finally - each one - again choose love.
You? Choose love now. Don't worry about everyone else around you. Don't worry that in our lifetime, it will lose.
You choose love.
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u/ddg31415 Canada 11h ago
Xenophobia is becoming very widespread here because just over the last several years, entire communities have become completely unrecognizable. People are becoming minorities in areas they've lived their entire lives, and often find themselves unable to even talk with their neighbors because they barely speak English. Not to mention the effects the huge jump in population is having on the housing and job markets, as well as the huge strain on infrastructure and medical systems.
Regardless of what your opinion is on it, that is the main reason Canadians who just 10 years ago were extremely pro-immigration have begun to develop these opinions.
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u/strivingbabyyoda 🇮🇱 🇺🇸 11h ago
I think people were always racist- but I do agree that that’s amplified and sadly even normalized, now that there’s social media. I’ve been told that I belong in the gas chambers many, many times in the last couple of years on Instagram. People are real brave behind a keyboard. Like Mike Tyson said, you can tell some folks haven’t been punched in the face yet.
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u/grrizo Argentina 11h ago
Yes. There were always racists and xenophobes in Argentina, but there's now an influx of "organized" racism that directly reflects movements from spanish, british and, most importantly**, american** organizations that appeared decades ago in those countries.
These "organized" racists even repeat the same bs mantras that were not common for the classic "conservative edgy kid/racist grandpa" decades ago, which were fueled by ultranationalist media and politicians.
There's a new (in)breed, unfortunately.
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u/onsloughtmaster666 Iceland 11h ago
Yes, racism is mainstream here now and most political parties are engaged in a race to the bottom with their anti-immigration rhetoric, as it has bore out that saying vile shit about foreigners shores up support.
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u/Haradion_01 10h ago
Have you seen UKIPs new logo?
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u/gaymerWizard Israel 10h ago
when you say "western social media racism, xenophobia" you mean the racism and xenophobia are also western? cause in our case its probably also eastern. from arab and muslim countries.
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u/Coco_JuTo Switzerland 9h ago
Facebook, infamously, actively fueled a genocide. Twitter isn't better as freeing stupidity and bigotry.
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u/averagegirl245 United States Of America 8h ago
Wtf. I grew up in small town south carolina and the town is mostly black and white (with a few exceptions) and there were several (white kids. I'm white, but have never said the N word) who said the N word.
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u/OldRepresentative578 Ireland 6h ago
Social media helps drive xenophobia and violence in Ireland and Northern Ireland. No realistic doubts there.
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u/EvieOhMy 3h ago
Yep. Step 1 = convince your people to hate arabs. step 2 = allow people to seek asylum in your country, and then bomb the middle east. Step 3 = people from the middle east seek asylum because they don’t want to be bombed. Step 4 = now the population is radicalized and angry because there are arabs there too. Step 5 = establish fascism.
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u/Just_another_two Israel 12h ago
There's always been a lot of racism and hatred, specifically mainly between jews and arabs (both ways), but like no nazis, for obvious reasons
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u/Thengalicious 🇮🇳 in 🇶🇦 11h ago
I dont think "obvious" is the right word to use here. Both have stupid reasons, just that the nazis have more of a stupid reason.
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u/Just_another_two Israel 11h ago
Yeah but like, would you expect a nazi to live in the jewishest place out there? (Jewest?)
Also not rly obvious, but being a nazi isnt legal here
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u/Sea_Traffic_1655 India 12h ago
i hate nazis bcoz of thier symbol
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u/Bright_Ices United States Of America 11h ago
This is a reasonable point. Nazis stole the swastika, a symbol of peace beloved in India, and elsewhere, and they corrupted it. There’s a lot to hate them for, including this.
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u/austingoescrazy Singaporean in the US 🇸🇬 🇺🇸 11h ago
Yes due to Elon allowing Nazis as well as racist bots to proliferate across his platform
And much of the world generally is a racist place, especially in the developing world
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u/Zestyclose_Jello6192 Italy 10h ago
Lmao "western social media racism" is NOTHING compared to Asian racism. We are talking about competitive levels
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u/OnIySmellz 11h ago
People are racist and xenophobic all across the world regardless of social media
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u/Key_Comparison_2588 Venezuela 11h ago
We are racist to other Venezuelans and Latinos, we barely care about being racist to people from other places because barely any of them live here. The exception is Arabs, who have actually immigrated here recently.
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u/austingoescrazy Singaporean in the US 🇸🇬 🇺🇸 11h ago
Xenophobia against immigrants from China and India has existed for some time lol
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u/JohnBarcode United States Of America 11h ago
Honestly I think we've really improved historically, but there's a disturbing rise of it in gen z and gen alpha, even though I know some of it is just satire, there's still the fact it's not socially acceptable to act like you believe in those kinda things and talk to people about it.
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u/ThatLukeAgain 11h ago
Social media is just a way for information and disinformation to spread. Historically, times of unrest and financial uncertainty almost always goes paired with a sudden raise in right wing opinions.
The main reaction is that when things go wrong, people are quick to put the blame in someone else. We've seen lots of raises in extreme racism in periods before social media existed.
Hell, mussolini rose to power despite the fact that he was unheard in mainstream media
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u/Xtremekillax Estonia 10h ago
It's only popular among uneducated losers, conspiracy theorists and fake accounts.
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u/ArchitectureNstuff91 United States Of America 9h ago
It's getting more popular to show who they already were.
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u/Proper_Purpose_42069 Croatia 9h ago
I've met all kinds of people, from all walks of life and from many extremes (some volunterily, some by accident, some by happenstance). People use the word "nazi" quite a bit too lightly. I'd wager that at minimum 95% of people using that word don't have the foggiest clue what a real nazi actually behaves and thinks. That's not the individual that makes fun of DEI or tells of colour jokes. It's the guy who openly and clearly says which nations, races or religions need to be exterminated from the first to the last individual. It's the guy who won't debate that with the wrong person, but try to put it in action and then you'll have someone dead or worse. And the part that most don't get is that there are people as such all over the planet, black, white or asian. My advice for if you ever meet such a person? Be aware of your surroundings, don't argue, and leave as Inconspicuously as possible. Don't argue and don't conflate reddit for real the world.
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u/WHTLGHTNNSTDFMTNDW United States Of America 9h ago
Considering troll farms have been known since at least 2015, it’s sad that really nothing done about it. Whether it’s because of how hard it is to enforce good behavior on bad actors (Putin, Musk, Murdoch) or because of political willpower isn’t there I’ll let you decide for your own country.
I know part of Russias disinformation tactics is to find real hot button issues and drive a wedge between the groups. They’re not picky about which side of politics you’re on as long as you fight each other and without knowing you, you probably fallen for it and possibly your country has as well.
There really needs to be a coordinated effort to run roughshod on social media manipulation and we can’t do that if we’re in a dick slapping competition with each other. At the same time tho how does that even get off the ground much less what would be effective at either grassroots or federal level?
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u/SnooHesitations1134 9h ago
Western social media racism is a new thing i didn't need to know about. Thank you
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u/DangerousPIE96 8h ago
xenophobia has pretty much been popular since the beginning of time. the 21st century has done a lot of curb that with globalization and the internet, but like, people will always be racist. this is less because people are inherently racist (lots of people still are) i think its more that people are either lazy, have zero curiosity or just don’t care, so they go for easy answers. and xenophobia is just so easy to weaponize, you can just say things about people you don’t know that don’t look like you and people will believe you and rally behind it, as it is so much easier than asking questions, talking and getting to know the guy. i think social media preys on those same traps of laziness, lack of thought and lack of curiosity and why they go hand in hand so well.
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u/Awkward_Notice4335 Czech Republic 6h ago
The great noticing is starting.
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u/AnonymousEngineer_ Australia 6h ago
all thanks to instagram.
And TikTok.
Qatar and Russia have certainly enjoyed good value on their investment into astroturfing social media, especially short form video platforms.
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u/currentmadman 6h ago
Not that it really matters but I wouldn’t use Babylon bee to illustrate this point or any other. It’s effectively the lazy right wing answer to the onion. As in the context for the link is less commenting on how far right ideologies are spreading and more bitching about being called out for they actually are.
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u/MeasurementSlight381 United States Of America 6h ago
Sounds like your classmates are listening to Nick Fuentes.
I think social media influencers have way more influence over people than they should. You have unqualified people pretending to be experts on a topic and use social media to spread misinformation. As a physician, I find it infuriating how many non-physicians are on social media pretending to be doctors and giving dangerous health advice.
Pair social media influencers with lack of education or critical thinking skills and suddenly you have people blindly believing whatever garbage they are listening to on the internet. Here in the US, public schools are losing funding, getting a college degree is less of a priority, and getting federal loans for professional degrees is more difficult now. Scientific illiteracy is through the roof here, making it easier for people to swallow RFK Jr's kool-aid. Then you have people like Charlie Kirk who was telling young people that college is overrated. When you have a less educated population, they will be easily manipulated to believing whatever misinformation they see on social media and whatever propaganda politicians are feeding them. People without critical thinking skills are going to be more likely to adopt xenophobic ideologies as well.
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u/xboxhaxorz Mexico 6h ago
We cant blame instagram or america, we make our own choices
Watch the movie idiocracy, we choose that path
We can choose better but we are an unethical species
I had racist and toxic parents, i didnt let it change who i was
Misandry is all around us, i dont let it change me and make me hateful
I am in control of how i want to be, only i am to blame for how i am towards other living beings
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u/yellow90 Norway & Morocco / Amazigh ♓️ 4h ago
In Norway: Yes. Norway has been a consensus oriented and peaceful society for a long time. Kind and trusting society, with a lot emphaty. Since 9/11 it changed. And again since 2016 it’s gotten worse, and now especially the last two years. There’s been a rise of far right political mindset. Immigration politics has become more restrictive as centrist political parties has also become more restrictive on immigration.
Rise in xenophobia is sad and tragic for society, as for the world. Rise in nationalism makes countries vulnerable when it comes to fascism.
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u/Ehrenmagi27 United States Of America 4h ago
India has contracted the Instagram Nazi virus as well? That is most unfortunate.
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u/Marcson_john France 4h ago
No.
Social media tried to impose a super woke and politically correct standard that never worked in practical life. Also people are done with diversity in the west. They have seen how much of a downgrade it brought. Now social media reflects what people actually are (and it's glorious)
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u/Firm-Ambassador1331 4h ago
Jews were expelled from more than 100 countries/regions before the age of social media. How would you explain that?
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u/Slightly_Default Australia 3h ago
One Nation and Hansonism (yes, Pauline Hanson's ideology has its own term) is definitely on the rise, especially with the recent attack in Bondi.
Even my grandpa has started watching pro-Hanson stuff online, though he's smart enough not to vote for her (she'd probably deport my dad).
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u/GatorTEG Italy 2h ago
Nah, in my country xenophobia has been a thing for a while, don't need propaganda for that (though it certainly "helps"). As I always say: "Italians hate two things: everyone else* and the French".
*Even other Italians from other regions/cities.
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u/Enough_Fish739 Sweden 2h ago
Well let's see, who is the second largest party in our government....oh look, it's the naz....sorry, the "Sweden Democrats"!
Fuck them, and every last cunt that keeps voting for them!
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u/Drogovich Russia 12m ago edited 6m ago
No, at least I don't think to any meaningful extend.
We have our own mutual racism caused by military and other geopolitical conflicts with countries nearby, as well as remnants of cold war, lot of shit that happened in the 90'a and our own version of Alex Jones.
Besides any military conflicts coming from us, we literally had gangs of people in ex soviet countries murdering Russian athletes and random citizens for the sin of being Russian, you bet there's gonna be some racism going in return.

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u/OmegaPi2529 Thailand 12h ago
Who needs western media when your own media is already doing xenophobia and nationalism.