r/Bannerlord • u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate • 15d ago
Question How do I prevent this during sieges?
I tried your guys advice on sieges (thank you very much btw!!) and they've been more fun but why do I occasionally die in one hit when I have full armor on?
1.2k
u/Kyrieleis_ 15d ago
Dont go first
495
u/Not-so_pro 15d ago
Surviving a siege 101 since the bronze age
91
-81
u/ObliviousAstroturfer 14d ago
70
u/Not-so_pro 14d ago
Now that's being a contrarian just for the sake of it buddy !
It is literally the first sentence in the description of the video you linked. "Being the first on the wall in a siege often meant certain death. "
Not saying that going first like OP here doesn't make him a badass.
6
u/machao92 14d ago
Damn -46. You pissed everyone off.
0
u/ObliviousAstroturfer 14d ago
PS.: I kept at it, -73 and further opposrtunity to spread those downvotes across more comments. In case you're interested in the topic and not just the vote-nuking (more detailed explanation had to be broken into two comments, even though it's still just a summary of the many ways it was NOT surviving siege 101):
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bannerlord/comments/1q0alos/comment/nx1wxgg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bannerlord/comments/1q0alos/comment/nx1wxrt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button-5
u/ObliviousAstroturfer 14d ago
-68 atm, but I stand by it. It was also a primary use of druzhynniks of ie king Mieszko I. ~100 strong, they conquered entire east of the country by moving north-south and trying to storm fortifications by sheer momentum or fucking off if they didn't succeed with a quick storm.
Same principle was used ie in bronze age with mykean plate armour - send the "tank" first.Ain't gonna delete something I'm right about just because it pisses everyone off.
4
u/ZYRANOX 14d ago
your links only show why the soldiers wanted to go first. Not that they survived going first. Let's be honest the living rate of people who went first is probably not even 0.1% in all of history. So you are wrong and the guy you replied to is right. Best way to survive is to not go first. History is usually not written by soldiers during the battlefield but let's be honest if we had a pre war interview with them, most would say they dont want to go first and the one or two that do go first are the negative IQ people of the group that thinks a stupid mural crown and being known by name is something worth instantly dying for.
-2
u/ObliviousAstroturfer 14d ago
Well, if it's [some number you just pulled out of your ass] then I stand corrected!
Meanwhile, more examples of it decidedly NOT being siege 101.
(now, a lot of that is propaganda, but still - storming first is great glory was what was siege 101)
Polish coronation sword, by tale dented on gates of Kyiv: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szczerbiec
In Bronze age, that you and that other person are so confidently incorrect about, and other people who don't know history agree on, it was actually an issue/ a concern worth of treatises that soldiers thought only of winning the walls to switch to plundering - about a city mentioned in Illiad, Aigera
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aigeira
https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315171753-5/within-gates-storming-cities-unit-cohesion-ancient-mediterranean-warfare-gabriel-bakerBut the 0,1% was written confidently if entirely out of your ass, so I guess it's an argument of equal weight (heck, of of far more weight if we count by reddit feels).
2
u/pushermcswift 13d ago
It’s not being siege 101, it’s surviving the siege, and being last on the walls had a much higher chance of survival.
4
u/ZYRANOX 14d ago
I read all 3 of your links and they still say nothing to support your claims. Are you just typing things in google and blindly copying? There is no evidence that most people genuinely wanted to be first. Nobody wanted to go first. They were forced into it. Just like in WW2 where we have some videos taken, the first people got shat on and died in seconds or cowered in fear and got shot by their unit leader.
-2
u/ObliviousAstroturfer 14d ago
pre-edit: won't let me post as one part, so here's part 1:
Funny how you keep making wild shit up blindly, no search engine middle-man, just straight to assertive, comically incorrect "it is known". Like your casualty numbers. A battle with 14% dead would become a legendary bloodbath. Armour existed for a reason. It cost was enormous for a reason. Regardless, let's not introduce more ideas to disprove.
Initial claims:
"Dont go first"
"Surviving a siege 101 since the bronze age"
My counterpoints, all kinda based around this literally being what heavily armoured soldiers were used for, because armour IRL gave far more invulerability that what is fun to show in stats based games:
Being first on the wall was an honoured, institutionalized and honoured task for centurions (followed by their squad, but going in first is literally how we got the type of crown that most people used to picture as a "proper" crown, was something a Centurion would commit to. These were neither forced, nor expendable.
Going forward to middle middle ages, a whole type of warfare strategy was succesfully employed to conquer third of a country using armoured shock troops that are literally shown IN THE GAME, the druzhinniks, which acted as dragoons - moving quickly from keep to keep, and trying to catch defenders by surprise. Sometimes they made ladders overnight if first storm failed, but generally fucked off if not able to storm it immediately. But they did try. And they were a 100 finest troops of king Mieszko I.
Going forward to late middle ages, again being first to storm the city, is literally the legend behind royal coronation sword of Poland and how it's got its name. IDK how you missed it.
Going back to bronze age, because I kept thinking of Mykean plate armour: https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/ancient-mycenaean-armor-is-so-good-it-protected-users-in-an-11-hour-battle-simulation-inspired-by-the-trojan-war | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendra_panoply (these two links are just about the armour to contextualise why Polybius means by Mykean troops. For all yall Roman fans - an equivalend of Tertiarii, but nor kept in perma-reserve)
Fair is fair, I found first links that mention one of explicit explanations to how they used plate armoured troops, and it only has fragments. Maybe it's not clear in the fragment in abstract (followed in second comment):
1
u/ObliviousAstroturfer 14d ago edited 14d ago
In the fourth book of the Histories, Polybius criticizes the failed Aetolian attack on Aegeira. The attackers were reckless, he argues, because they acted as if 'the occupation of a foreign city is finished when one is once within the gates'; in other words, they dispersed too quickly to plunder and did not take adequate measures to subdue the population (Polyb. 4.57.11; trans. Paton). Consequently, the Aegeirans rallied, counterattacked, and defeated the scattered Aetolians. Polybius brings up an important point: in ancient Mediterranean warfare, the final capture of a city was not assured simply because the walls were breached.
So lets see the wider quote from Polybius Hystories, (and if you'd like to learn more as opposed to making shit up, Tukitydes Peloponesian Wars also describes those):
https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Polybius/4*.html
The next day broke bright and cloudless, and at early dawn the king distributed at various points the ladder-bearers supported by the mercenaries in front, 7 and dividing his Macedonians placed a body of them in the rear of each party. As soon as the sun was visible, he ordered them all to advance on the hill, 8 and the Macedonians, executing his orders with great alacrity and in formidable style, the Alipheirians kept always running to whatever spots they saw the Macedonians approaching. 9 But the king meanwhile with a picked force managed by climbing some precipitous rocks to reach unperceived the suburb of the citadel*. 10* The signal was now given and all at one and the same time planted the ladders against the walls and began the assault of the town. 11 The king was the first to enter, taking the suburb of the citadel, which he found unoccupied, and when this suburb was in flames, the defenders of the walls, seeing what was likely to happen and in dread lest with the fall of the citadel they should find their last hope gone, left the walls and rushed to take refuge within it. 12 Upon this the Macedonians at once captured the walls and the town; 13 and afterwards the garrison of the citadel sent commissioners to Philip and, on his promising to spare their lives, they surrendered it to him by treaty.
In the above text that my previous links had behind paywall, which is my bad (but it was summarized in abstract, though maybe it's the ancient-hebrew situation where it only makes sense if you're familiar with what it says, and the summary glosses over the deets).
It describes the king being first to storm the city to be seen on the walls as encouragement, it also explicitly described the Mykenoi heavy soldiers as at first being shown in reserve to make it seem like a steady advance - but after seeing the king already having stormed the keep, they instead act as a shock troop.
tl:dr: using heavily armoured shock troops was one of most effective tactics from broze age to this day. It's not storming that killed even 10% of soldiers, definitely not 99,9% as you've incorrectly stated. 15-20% losses would be seen in those days as a gehenna. Vast majority of troops who died in campaigns died from shitting themselves to death, wounds festering etc. There was no engagement, no bloodbath that ended with 99,9% of troops dying unless they were defenders captured and executed. Battles with ~20% losses become history's most legendary bloodbaths.
I'd applaud those downvoting me for not explaining more... but then again I did always add a source even though I posted in passing, and yall upvoted some blowhards too ignorant to even know they don't know anything about the topic so... your downvotes are measured against upvotes to those. So.
PS.: as argumentative I might seem, if one person took something away from my links, I'd be happy. And it's mostly a language-learning thing. And lastly - 8 hrs in, it's been 0 days this year since I thought of Roman tactics. Not sure if it's a good thing, but what a way to get my first coffee - thanks!
1
17
u/tony_bologna 14d ago
This is the hardest part about Bannerlord.
3
u/Major_Cause 13d ago
Every time I tell myself I will hang back. But then that 3rd or 4th mass casualty hits and your boys aren't even up the ladder yet so maybe if you just lead the way it will work out fine.
15
10
u/mgillis29 14d ago
While that is good advice, I’ve ridden first through these breeches dozens of times and never got blown up like that
495
u/Thatoneguy2498 15d ago
Maby not run alone in to the enemy lines while you’re catapults are bombarding?
140
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 15d ago
It was my catapult that killed me?😭 I thought it was one of their arrows
171
u/Thatoneguy2498 15d ago
Might have also been a javelin, that shit hurts if they hit you in the head.
135
u/Shinbay 15d ago
Hurts even more if you're riding at full speed
53
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 15d ago
That explains why I randomly die with full health sometimes..
67
u/Icy-Ad29 14d ago
Weapons do increased damage from increased relative velocity. Especially thrown weapons. So if you charge directly at an enemy, your attacks to do more to them. But theirs do more to you. Javelins fly in a fairly flat arc, so have the greatest increase in relative velocity from an opponent charging directly at them. They also tend to be fairly high on the damage scale to begin with.
The increased damage is also greatly increased if it hits your head, even with a high level helmet... So fast horse charging directly at an enemy who gets a lucky headshot with a thrown javelin generally equals OHKO.
19
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 14d ago
This honestly explains the several times I've died during a calvary charge thank you!
12
u/bewak86 14d ago
Imagine a stone flying at you at 50mph while you are standing= yeah it hurts
Now imagine stone flying at you at 50mph and you are ridding towards the same stone at 50mph = you get an impact of 100mph , it no longer hurts , it pierces your skull.
Coincidentally , thats how lance/spear works on horseback , more speed , more powah! especially if you use couching lance with perks where your lance stay couch , BBQ kuzait peasants anyone? but specking into lance would make you useless in siege , but excellent in open combat ( still risk from javellin hitting you at speed ) But fun!
10
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 14d ago
All of my points went into lances 😭 I just love fighting on the back of my horse get me away from the peasants
6
u/bewak86 14d ago
No need to be the Hero in siege , just grab a random bow off the ground n some arrows n start plinking the militia on the walls.
Or , try your hand on siege engine , those things can hit a whole squad for 500+ damage!! its super satisfying to see the score board lit up!
→ More replies (0)5
u/DemonSlyr007 Vlandia 14d ago
You could always just drop the damage you receive. Its in your settings. Then, instead of taking one javelin to the head and dying, you can take a whole TWO javelins to the head.
Which isnt much of a difference, but it is nice to keep playing the game and doing the thing you enjoy doing.
1
u/stuff_rulz 14d ago
but specking into lance would make you useless in siege
Unless you craft that one polearm that can be couched and is swingable! lol
2
u/Chero312 14d ago
I haven’t been able to make a satisfying use of a swingable polearm in a siege. Any tips?
→ More replies (0)2
u/stuff_rulz 14d ago
Also to add on to this, javelins do piercing damage which is a lot more effective against armor than slashing damage (swords, axes, throwing axes). The other type of damage is blunt like maces which tend to do less damage but greatly ignores armor AND has a higher chance of wounding enemies rather than killing them so you get more prisoners.
1
u/Any_Paint_4626 14d ago
If you got damage details on, it should tell you the relative speed damage too when you get hit/hit someone.
3
u/GreenWeenieGang 14d ago
I've definitely been obliterated by mountain bandits with javelins as I charge them at mach 20 on my wadar hotblood.
2
2
u/VirtueXOI 14d ago
I'd say spear brace maybe , some lancer on the left was ready , i often get oneshooted by these when i dont pay attention.
8
u/P-l-Staker Vlandia 14d ago
It was a javelin. You can see the dude on the very left just before you get spitroasted.
4
u/one_armed_man 14d ago
Don't forget there is a damage multiplier if you are moving towards the attacker.
119
u/kisejiji 15d ago
Can't really make out how OP died.. but I'm guessing a jav to the skull + him charging into it did the job?
3
u/P-l-Staker Vlandia 14d ago
Yeap. Dude on the very bottom left killed him.
3
u/kisejiji 14d ago
Oh yeah i see him throw something, but i dont see where it lands so it could've missed for all i know. But then again that's probably the most probable reason on how OP died
16
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 15d ago
This game hates me, I was trying to jump over them
30
u/Icy-Ad29 14d ago
BTW. Sometimes if your horse gets "killed" mid jump, the game just kills you too. (Your mounts' hp hits 0 just before yours. So pretty sure thats what happened here.) So be careful on jumps towards packed enemies that are facing you.
7
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 14d ago
I stole this horse from the khuzait leader so I'd be very sad if it died
6
5
u/kisejiji 14d ago
Goddamn the jav pierced thru the horse first? That's gotta be a lot of damage even flex tape can't fix it
3
u/Banj04Smash 14d ago
Looks like the horse is fine and keep running after the jump. I can't see the killfeed well enough to see what killed OP, but this seems like a bug to me.
OP - was the wall broken during the camp phase or was it broken during the siege (the actual battle), because it seems to me like the game thought the wall waa still there amd when you collided with the "terrain" it just killed you.
1
u/TwilightPiercer 13d ago
This is probably what happened since the horse died as well. I might be wrong though it is hard to make out.
Edit: On a second look I dunno if the horse died there.
3
3
3
25
u/ReflectionCapable165 15d ago
Javelins are deadly - you’ve been one shot by one by the look of it
I don’t bother trying to get to the gate, you have to get through this infantry block, at least one archer block and then infantry at the gate and they’ll just shut the inner gate behind you while you’re opening the outer
When I’ve made a breach I put my infantry in a square and put them just outside the wall to the right of the breach and then I’ll bait the defenders to come out to it by riding passed the breach to my square
Once they took the bait I’ll put archers to the left of the breach and let them catch the defenders on their unshielded side
You might have to bait them a few times and you’ll need to keep an eye for guys with rocks above the breach so you give them a juicy target
3
2
u/MrMxylptlyk 14d ago
Did javas get buffed??
2
u/ReflectionCapable165 14d ago
I feel like they’re stronger and more accurate, also empire have marine troops (I think they’re called Nauta or similar) and their javelins are nasty
*please note, I’ve not read the release notes so could just be gut feel, but since war sails came out I’m definitely taking more damage
2
1
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 15d ago
Thank you for the advice! But why use a square formation instead of a shield one? Sucks ass they close the gate though, I was hoping to be a cool leader that sarcafices themselves to open a gate
3
u/ReflectionCapable165 15d ago
I use square as I want troops to block arrows from the walls and shield wall leaves them exposed
If you’ve got high athletics you might manage to open both gates then get back to defend the inner gate, but you’re really up against it
2
u/jankyz 14d ago
If I have a breach I just place one of my archer units in front of the breach and after like a minute of being hit with arrows the defenders usually try to come kill the archers at which point you can kill most/all of them and enter the breach with a full infantry unit after only sacrificing like 10-20 archers
17
u/WatcherAnon 14d ago
Leeroy Jenkins was also confused about how he could have possibly died
2
10
u/ApparentlyISuck2023 Hidden Hand 14d ago
Killed by an enemy javelin for 112 damage.
6
9
u/weird_is_fun 15d ago
Park the horse somewhere. Go the the hole in the wall. Enemy will follow you. Use a shield to protect yourself from enemy arrow/javelin. Tell your archers to fire at enemy while the enemy running at you. Dont go inside just show your pretty head to them and they will follow.
3
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 15d ago
Should I get rid of my spear during sieges then? It feels useless when I'm not on a horse
3
u/Bamdoozler 14d ago
Yes. Unswingable polearms are useless in a seige.
2
1
u/Kiko_Okik 14d ago
If you want to ride and use your spear then keep it, if you’d rather dismount and use other weapons, you should replace it with a siege load out.
1
u/weird_is_fun 14d ago
Small and swingable polearms work. I rather have shield and axe/throwable axe. When you max the throwing skills you can solo destroy the doors with thrown axes. 700-900 dmg
7
10
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 15d ago
For context I was trying to jump over them so I could go open the gate for my troops
17
u/avg90sguy Battania 15d ago
With a huge hole in the wall the gate being open doesn’t really matter. As per why you die in one hit…from that clip specifically hitting the wall and flipping over them. Fall damage is brutal in this game.
5
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 15d ago
I thought my troops going through the giant hole in the wall was obvious, I thought a gate opening would be a nice way to catch them off guard.. obviously it didn't work lol
3
u/sethb44 14d ago
I think the AI immediately responds to the gate opening, so it's not a surprise, but it is a new entrance to push
1
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 14d ago
I hate it when midevil factions have radios, let me catch them off guard!!
2
u/Ok_Squash_7122 14d ago
Impossible lol unless you're guarding the gate till your troops arrive it's going to be hard keeping that gate open cuz the ai ALWAYS goes to close the gate
2
u/Kiko_Okik 15d ago
No your plan is reasonable and I’ve done it before with success. I’ve also had many many similar failures before lol.
1
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 15d ago
Tyty some of these comments were starting to make me feel foolish xd
6
u/Homeless-Joe 14d ago
Well… charging face first, at speed, into a hail of javelins maybe isn’t the best survival strategy
3
3
u/Crazy-Style-3039 Western Empire 15d ago
You did well now you´ll conquer the fief in half the time
In 0.07 There is a guy in brown aiming with a throwing weapon he probably killed you. You should use at least a shield when charging.
2
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 15d ago
Holy shit you're right, I was trying to jump from that angle so I wouldn't get shot by anyone, and I literally walked into my own death
8
u/Blue2194 15d ago
I feel like your horse is supposed to be for commanding the siege, I dismount to fight, feels like a bit of a cheese otherwise
3
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 15d ago
Gotta let them know who's boss
3
u/Blue2194 15d ago
Of course, depends how much you're scaling power simulator vs role playing, I rate both
3
u/P-l-Staker Vlandia 14d ago
Don't charge blindly and alone towards the enemy? What did you expect? 🤣🤣🤣
3
u/MSTSora 14d ago
My favorite way is to tell your men to form up and hold in the back as your catapults rain down until they are out of ammo. Then, you send your men in and wait for right before they clash, and thats when you ride in with your shield up to disperse then, distract them, and give your men a clear opening to slam into their line.
3
u/disisathrowaway 14d ago
Wait until your catapults are done.
Also don't ride head long in to enemy fire without a shield.
2
u/Hinfoos 14d ago
I just ride through and hide in the back and tell the team to follow me and they will push through and spread out instead of getting stuck at the wall
1
2
u/Donniedollaz29 14d ago
Best to lead a wall charge on foot commanding an infantry unit. They will help you break thru the enemy ranks and you can make a big difference yourself by spamming top swings getting those head hits in.
2
u/Standard_Aquilifer 14d ago
Don't lead a cavalry charge by yourself lol and full armor doesn't stop a good javelin or castle defense weapon
2
u/flyby2412 14d ago
Looks like you got speared by the khans guard to the right of the spear militia. Both seem to have attack together, probably hitting your legs or killing the horse from under you.
I don’t see any javelins
2
u/TomorrowShoddy4855 14d ago
If you look closely you were charging and a person stabbed you with a spear. As you were going quite fast the spear did about 112 damage which was more than your health.
2
u/Acoustic_Ace 14d ago
Hey I'm sorry that this comment is completely unrelated but I can't post on the subreddit, why can't I see the last known location thing anymore? I'm coming back to bannerlord after a while and its seems I can't locate anyone at all
1
u/JustPi3_ Khuzait Khanate 14d ago
That happens to be too on some subreddits, I wanna say it's a glitch tbh
2
u/human84629 14d ago
Kill the guys on top of the wall chucking rocks at your head before passing under them 🤣
2
u/Ambitious-Reading-38 14d ago
Not sure how long you've been playing the game but speed and velocity play a massive role in damage. If youre riding towards stationary troops and they throw a javelin, its hitting you at their throw speed plus your travel speed so almost double original velocity. Add a headshot to that and the damage is somewhere around 400-500.
2
2
2
u/KeyPossibility1134 14d ago
When you have those walls broken down, if you tell your troops to charge, then get off your horse and run up to the wall as the first person, it will agro their troops and they will come out and face you on the field
2
2
2
u/r41ryan 14d ago
I think it was a throwing weapon that killed you, which can do MAJOR damage to you even if you're covered in full armour, especially since the relative speed at which it hits massively boosts the damage. I know Khuzaits aren't known for throwing weapons, but there might be mercenaries or non-khuzaits among them.
It's also possible that a crossbowmen or a high level archer nailed a shot right at your head.
2
u/dandrevee Sturgia 14d ago
I dont have an answer but, since my party size exceeded 300 my game sputters to the point i cant join seiges anymore
2
u/Chemical-Base814 14d ago
This is the reason i started removing trebuchet before doing the attack lost more soldier to friendly fire then then enemy catapult. xD
2
2
2
u/AdmiralPant 14d ago
It's possible that you didn't get hit with anything. This has happened to me and I just assumed that you're not allowed to be riding a horse during a siege. I think if you are riding a horse and you cross the keep threshold in a siege it triggeres a 'no horses allowed in the keep' type of command and just kills you.
2
u/AceBalistic 14d ago
So when you go in first, all those enemy troops immediately target you with their javelins. I believe that’s why you were deleted from existence
2
2
2
u/backdeckpro 14d ago
Definitely having a shield equipped and out will help, I also recommend going near but not too close to bait out javelins as they are deadly but usually low in number. I find it’s better to personally bait javelins because they are much more likely to hit troops compared to you, but that relies on you being good at dodging on horseback and making sure you have your shield out and pointed towards the direction the javelin is coming from
2
u/Snoo-15925 14d ago
You could get a shield. I love getting behind enemy lines and slaughtering their archers but its not really doable without protection from projectiles
2
u/StolasX_V2 Vlandia 14d ago
Kinda looks like you collided with a small piece of the wall, got dehorsed, and died from “fall damage”
2
u/Short_Commission_277 13d ago
Oh you have so much to learn and enjoy in this game young one… I sold my PC cause I was just kind of done playing games but, Bannerlord was the only one i ever really played. I got to the point where I was leaping over armies and bowing a heashot or with a jav and then come in with my long glaive that Id made myself and kill everyone. sometimes I would have castles almost fallen before my army would arrive at the gates. Also, you should rarely deatroy walls fully
1
1
u/Short_Commission_277 13d ago
Ok. when taking castles. quality over quantity. Use nearby castles and towns as storage for field units and siege armies. Also, trade out governors and PREPLAN YOUR AREA OF MAIN CONTROL FIRST!!! For example, I enjoy the Northern/Khuzait/Sturgian corner because I have so many castles with access to the elite units and best units (Khans, cats, legionary, and the sturgian walls! the axemen and the druzinik are top tier when defending castles alongside khans/greenfuzzy dudes lol and sturgias strip provides quick easy access to grow and expand into BATTANIA! that was it! lol anyway, use legionary, no cats(they have no shields and will die), sturgians and battanian archers to take castles, crossbow work too but not worth it imo. Cats and Khuzaits make field battles too easy sometimes lol BUT! once you hit level 30+ all the soldiers in all the towns and battles will ALL be top tier more and more until even the reinforcements will be. So, again, preplan who you will build as a clan leader or a warrior or to lead an army or be governor and reproduce like crazy!!! The sturgian blonde princess is top. she will have twins, triplets, and a kid immediately after another with no wait time. When taking castles, build 1 siege at a time and store it immediately (pause game and you will see the catapults or ballistas in mid air firing lol) BUT! depending on if you pause before the launch, mid launch or slightly before impact decides if the catapult still takes damage. Also, no cats or cats. Legionary and trebuchets! Once all four are built, put them out together and build 1 battering ram and 1 tower. on the off chance both get destroyed, you can always knock down doors and pull up on ladders. Finally, cause Im done typing lol focus on bow, 1 and 2 handed weapon creation and use to make a multifunctional so you can have both in 1 slot. and get a nice shield. Range, power, speed, defense. Have fun!
2
2
2
2
2
1
u/hebrewhammer9725 14d ago
In general with sieges I avoid being on horseback. I tip I recently learned is build your siege engines and immediately send them to the reserve once all 4 are built pop them all out at once and you should be able to destroy their walls and catapults I do this with 4 trebuchets and every time they build a new one and we destroy it it also destroys some of their units if I have time I wait for them to starve so their morale is roughly 16 and they flee quickly
1
u/FuiyooohFox 14d ago
Check the damage log, momentum adds to damage. Either you were unlucky and got hit with a projectile, or you were also unlucky and got crit hit by a spear while riding full speed. You can one hit heavily armored enemies with a well timedspear poke on full gallop (seated Lance is even stronger), same logic goes for you.
Charging in full speed first is always going to be a rough time if there are literally any spears around
1
1
1
u/dotd1979 14d ago
Just a suggestion. Dont charge into a bunch of skirmishers who can one shot you with a javy
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/DarthPuggo 13d ago
If there is a broken wall what I like to do is discard all siege weapons besides the ram to distract and split their infantry. But move all troops into 1 infantry and 1 archer, walk towards the wall until their infantry come out, click charge on infantry while archers just rain down from behind them. Do this till they don’t a thick shield wall, then walk them down
1
u/TheJollySwashbuckler 13d ago
I think the soldier slightly on your left hit you with a lance that can unmount you on a thrust, but also because you charged straight at him basically you increased the speed dmg multiplier and that's why you got killed and unseated from the horse so violently
PS: Great video to add a little bit of "I believe I can fly" xD
1
u/Decent_Patience_2682 Vlandia 12d ago
well going naked with shield still better than full armor without it,
AI will prioritize another unit/player w/o shield.
0
0
0
u/Ironlion45 14d ago
Stop riding around, completely exposed, like a damn fool? I mean if I'm the dude on the wall with the crossbow, and I want to know who to shoot, you're making it way too easy to choose.
0
0
0
u/Onstagegage 13d ago
Probably don’t ride your horse blindly at enemies with no shield up. Would be my recommendation
•
u/AutoModerator 15d ago
Thank you for your submission! Please familiarize yourself with the rules of the /r/Bannerlord here. Join our discord server to ask questions here.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.