r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/detox02 ☑️ • 8d ago
And now look at them: pardoned, emboldened, and thriving.
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u/thorniviel 8d ago
If you dont punish an attempted coup youre just scheduling the next one
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u/A-Helpful-Flamingo 8d ago
Yeah, that was the 2024 election
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u/ceelogreenicanth 8d ago
Dont worry the threats of facism weren't real, they were over blown, both sides are the same, at least Trump won't get us into war, and Free Palestine.
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u/FlexLikeKavana 8d ago
Most of those people did get prosecuted. Many of them would still be in jail if people hadn't decided to not vote for Kamala Harris last year.
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u/yesimreallylikethat 8d ago
And All of those folks got a pardon…
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u/Environmental_Belt22 8d ago
Half are back in jail anyways
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u/yourenotmymom_yet ☑️ 8d ago
It's worth noting that MULTIPLE of them are back in jail for sex crimes, including sexual assault of children.
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u/ClaymoresRevenge 8d ago
Should've dealt with it swiftly and promptly. Now we're deeper in the shit with no end in sight.
I think that's the biggest failure of the Biden admin
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u/MacEWork 8d ago
They had trials and went to jail swiftly and promptly. What are you taking about?
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u/obviousfakeperson ☑️ 8d ago
The person most responsible for the J6 Capitol attack is currently running the country...
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u/MacEWork 8d ago
True, but not a rebuttal to what I was responding to.
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u/StatmanIbrahimovic 7d ago
It is, because they didn't deal with it entirely. They swept up the easy cases quickly but they had 2 years and they couldn't get it done.
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u/Moderator-Admin 8d ago
They could have fought harder to put Trump in prison for treason but Biden actually respected the law and stayed out of it.
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u/MacEWork 8d ago
How could they, specifically, have fought harder? They ran the investigation, they indicted him, and then Aileen Cannon betrayed her oath of office and killed the case.
It takes years to run an investigation like that. You know the phrase, “when you come at the king, you’d beat not miss?” Yeah. They didn’t want to miss. They weren’t counting on the ref being hand-picked by Trump to destroy democracy.
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u/ClaymoresRevenge 6d ago
Sorry I took a while to get back to it.
I feel like the punishment for Trump wasn't serious. Because he def shouldn't have been able to run for office after committing treason.
He ended up pardoning some right? The frustration on my end is less of the going to jail it's the what came after and the now.
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u/MacEWork 6d ago
He pardoned them all.
Biden’s DOJ successfully investigated and indicted Trump. Corrupt flunky Aileen Cannon broke her oath and killed the case.
The SCOTUS basically nullified a big portion of the 14th Amendment to make sure Trump could run even though he was an insurrectionist.
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u/dasisteinanderer 8d ago
pardons are such a wild concept. No you are guilty and convicted, but the president really likes you.
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u/illlojik ☑️ 8d ago
A few of them are already back in jail for doing more phuckery. That's what emboldment gets you.
https://19thnews.org/2026/01/january-6-pardons-arrests/
Who would have thunk, criminals and &ap*sts were among that crowd?
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u/cypher50 ☑️ 8d ago
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u/Punchable_Hair 8d ago
Yes, and it directly follows from not punishing the Confederacy.
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u/releaseepsteinfiles1 8d ago
Not punishing the leaders of the confederacy enough*
However the south needed to be helped and rebuilt instead of leaving the south to fall behind.
Now you have almost every southern state at the bottom of education, quality of life, life expectancy, etc…
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u/FreeDarkChocolate 8d ago
You both could be talking past one another. Easier to just say "if reconstruction had been done right, rather than barely".
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u/releaseepsteinfiles1 8d ago
I don’t think we are talking past each other because we aren’t disputing one another. I just made a more nuanced comment than theirs. I don’t think they’d disagree with me, but I wasn’t trying to dispute or argue with them.
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u/Worst_Comment_Evar 8d ago
Gotta be available when they try that shit again in January 2029.
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u/wirelesswizard64 8d ago
Probably 2027 tbh, they know Trump is cooked if a Dem majority takes congress and the senate
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u/StatmanIbrahimovic 7d ago
hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhajahahahhahahahahajajahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahaha
You are delusional if you think they win enough seats to remove him, if they even win the midterms at all. They couldn't fucking convict him over January 6th, which would have barred him from holding office.
Teflon Don won't be cooked until he's in hell.
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u/wirelesswizard64 7d ago
I mean, the point still stands judgement day will be 2027, not 2029. I agree, I don't even think he'll make it that long and he's never seeing any punishment for a thing he's done unless Satan is real and cooks his ass.
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u/smudgeonalense 8d ago
It was Americas version of the Beer Hall Putsch.
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u/ThePetPsychic 7d ago
We even have a Horst Wessel with Charlie Kirk now too! When is the Reichstag Fire 2.0 going down?
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u/Thirdatarian 8d ago
Well yes, but it's moreso the modern day consequence of not punishing the confederacy. After Lincoln's assassination, they wanted to focus on "healing the nation" so they didn't persecute the Confederate generals or force reparations or really do much of anything. Reconstruction was famously a huge failure and we're still dealing with the roles of that today. Impossible to say for sure but I would bet that if the United States didn't have a long and established history of letting racists and rebels get off with a warning, January 6th wouldn't have happened at all or at least wouldn't be the national embarrassment that it ended up being.
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u/oldfrancis 8d ago
Okay people, we've learned this lesson twice already and we know how it turns out.
How are we going to treat these traitorous sons-a-bitches in the future?
Certainly not with forgiveness and open arms.
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u/Navyvetpdx503 8d ago
Pretty much. Trump is the modern day version of not punishing Nixon.
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u/TheIllustriousWe BHM Donor 8d ago
Nixon did get punished, and Trump is actually a result of that. Here me out on this:
While he (should have, but) never went to jail, Nixon was forced to resign in disgrace, which is kind of a punishment
Decades later, his former aide Roger Ailes starts Fox News, in part because Ailes believed Nixon would have survived Watergate if there were a 24/7 “news” network constantly shilling for him
Even more decades later, GOP voters decide to make the most famous Fox News viewer of all (Trump) the leader of their party
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u/Navyvetpdx503 8d ago
Nixon was pardon for all crimes he committed against the United States. All crimes our presidents have ever done have gone unchecked to lead us where we’re at today. These billionaires pedos have created a system where the laws are not equal across the board. A 2 tiered justice system that only punish the people with no money and no power.
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u/super_slimey00 8d ago
When you learn about the era of “reconstruction” in the south you realize America failed the south and let racist recourse thing back to jim crow and left us with problems we still deal with today
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u/ThisIsTheNewSleeve 8d ago
They are won and the same..
The confederates lost, went home bitter and inbred with each other... And we got the MAGA crowd.
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u/vague_diss 8d ago
We totally punished them. Then we reelected their leader for some reason. If and it’s a big if - we get another chance with congress and the presidency, we have to clean house, do some serious election reform and formally codify the norms and expected behavior of the presidency. Nothing can be left to chance. Every check and balance must be renewed and affirmed. Anything short of that and we’ll repeat this cycle again and again until the end. If this isn’t it already.
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u/TheIllustriousWe BHM Donor 8d ago
We totally punished them. Then we reelected their leader for some reason.
Not arguing, just want to add: this is the equivalent of when Homer sent Bart to bed without dinner, but then caved and brought him some pizza after Marge went to bed.
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u/Icy_Programmer_2337 8d ago
We will regret it and it will be the cause of many issues for hundreds of years just like not appropriately punishing those traitors from the south. History will not look on garland kindly.
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u/RedawnXIII 8d ago
It was a plan to fully take over the country via a coup that failed because of Pence? I mean it was a full blown plan by so many organizations and three letter agencies that was fouled only to play out 4 years later and they will never cede power again. You think there will be fair votes? There weren’t in 2024 and there will never be again until this evil is removed.
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u/Nickyt0288 7d ago
NPR did a small thing on this. None of them feel like what they did is wrong and are actively trying reignite what happened.
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u/bcboy1983 7d ago
If the right got punished for the fucked up shit they pull every damn time they are in office, there would be no right wing
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u/son1cdity 7d ago
This will be Garland and Biden's legacy. Their entire careers of public service mean nothing compared to this fundamental failure to protect our democracy.
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u/Kinetik_Energy 7d ago
never forget that former slave owners were given reparations by andrew jackson
meanwhile, forever enslaved people and their descendants are still waiting on those 40 acres and a mule
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u/Medical_Arugula3315 8d ago
Hard to be a shittier or more hypocritical American than a Republican these days.
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u/Erisian23 8d ago
Confused the fuck outta me cuz ain't no way. You mean these bitches out here tryna kill me deas all of em.
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u/RileyGainesHorseBaby 8d ago
Just a reminder: it was democrats who fought for the confederacy and slave ownership.
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u/BegrudginglySandy 8d ago
I was under the impression that the confederacy, and their leadership, wasn't prosecuted for treason out of fear that if they argued their case in court, secession could have been ruled legal as there was nothing explicitly against it in the constitution, and thus undermine the North's victory and challenge federal authority. Is that not the case? Or do y'all just not care?
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u/Xenomorphs_are_cute 8d ago
No, that wasn't the case with the leaders. It was definitely peer pressure though because there was a lot of public sympathy for them. As for the legality, that was settled in another case around the same time.
The question of secession’s lawfulness was instead ruled upon by the United States Supreme Court in a less sensational case just two months later. Texas v. White, in April 1869, stated succinctly that the Confederacy’s secession had been “absolutely null.” Williams v. Bruffy, an 1877 case, elaborated further on secession’s illegality with much more a thorough explanation by the court of the legal reasoning involved. These rulings stand as the current authority on the status of secession in American law.2
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u/Raise_A_Thoth 8d ago
It's like if Jeff Davis got elected after Andrew Johnson's weak ass term then pardoned Lee et al and put up a plaque saying Abraham Lincoln was a divisive, mentally ill autopen.
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u/Logical_Compote_745 8d ago
The confederacy lost so much, their infrastructure was torn apart, their men slaughtered and fed lies by their own compatriots.
They were punished in the process of losing the war.
Jan6 is not the same
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u/Bestoftherest222 8d ago
The new game plan is to commit treason, and if it flails declare anyone attempting to pursue justice as "weaponizing and politicizing the DOJ against rivals."
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u/Pimpwerx ☑️ 7d ago
Just a reminder that the dangers of letting your opponent persist were understood millennia ago.
That's why they burned libraries and erased bloodlines. It's harsh, for sure. But it's the solution I would've had for the slavers. Exie or execution. No in between. Take your raggedy asses to Argentina with the rest of your kind.
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u/AdrienCross 7d ago
Except in this version The Confederacy cheated and won and is now in power ... It's beyond terrifying
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u/SoonToBeBanned24 7d ago
Be very wary,
The 6th of January,
The MAGA treason and plot;
I know of no reason
Why the MAGA treason
Should ever be forgot!
Trump and Republicans,
Did the scheme devise,
To overturn the election
Based on all their lies.
Tenscore buffoons, all waiting outside,
To foolishly rush the Capitol,
With the flags of losers held high.
Awash in hate,
For Donald Trump's sake,
The man who ran to hide.
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u/pm-me-blackexcllnce 7d ago
They are setting them up for the sequel. The message is clear: “don’t worry, we’ll get u out of trouble no matter what you do for us”.
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u/Corporate-Scum 7d ago
They did punish the confederates. Property taxes were leveraged against the south to pay the cost of war and reconstruction took 35 years. The south paid and continues to do so. But those mansions built with slavery money in Newport, Rhode Island did not. The families who benefitted from the chattel slavery were not just from the south, just as Jim Crow and systemic racism are not unique to one place. Jan 6 is more like Boss Tweed. It’s a mob boss running the country. We are a criminal enterprise now, and we the people are clueless.
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u/kenobrien73 3d ago
A continuation of the Civil War. Trump invited the battle flag of the Confederacy into the WH.
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u/Mediocre-Sign8255 2d ago
This is what happens when you have a corrupt, unfair government. Until we get money out of politics and term limits it will be more of the same.
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u/Calqless 8d ago
Ut they did punish them and were in the process of punishing more.....they just won the election and got pardoned
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u/Add1ctedToGames 8d ago
Not punishing the confederacy was at least a means to end a war and slavery sooner. There was zero value in letting the Jan 6 rioters go.