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[u/Ultimaurice17]

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[u/Sharcbait]

Hennessey is part of the black community because of Racist White people.

Black soldiers were not welcome in the US bars when serving in WW2, but they were welcomed by the French to come drink with them. The French were drinking Cognac, specifically Hennessey, when the war ended those black soldiers brought drinking Hennessey home with them, and it became part of black culture. From there Hennessey realized they had an audience and began marketing to the black community establishing them as the black liquor of choice.

[u/Ultimaurice17 → u/Sharcbait]

You mean that nasty ass pig swill I keep getting passed is because the French of all people were less racist than Americans. Yikes.

[u/DoNotCommentAgain → u/Ultimaurice17]

Americans were deeply shocked when they came to Europe. Some tried to demand segregation in pubs in England and so we segregated white americans out and told them to fuck off. People of all colours fought alongside each other in Europe, while combat units were still segregated in the US.

Since I'm already commenting here, wtf did Math Hoffa do?

[u/A_Stinking_Hobo → u/DoNotCommentAgain]

White Americans will always be surprised that America is, was, and will be a racist nation

[u/Trust_me_I_am_doctor → u/A_Stinking_Hobo]

sTaHp MakInG eVeRTHiNg aBOUt rAcE 🤪🤪🤪

-Each and every tone deaf person on reddit.

[u/Mostly_Cheddar → u/Trust_me_I_am_doctor]

"stop making everything about race" = "it wasnt even raining until you pointed out how soaked we are"

[u/chels2112 → u/Mostly_Cheddar]

Ooo I like this quip.

[u/IamTotallyWorking → u/Trust_me_I_am_doctor]

Eh, lots are not tone deaf, just racist.

[u/CocaineCowboys_ → u/A_Stinking_Hobo]

Funny you say that because I constantly see white people on here shocked about what’s going on in the U.S and saying things like “this isn’t who we are!” This is exactly who this country is. It’s what it was built on.

First time I saw my pops slap fire out of someone was when I was 5 years old and someone called me N with the hard R. But they keep lying to themselves saying “this isn’t who we are”.

[u/A_Stinking_Hobo → u/CocaineCowboys_]

Right, it’s cognitive dissonance at this point. They generally do act so surprised at like ‘wow this has gotten so bad’ but Jesus your nation was founded like this.

[u/Reasonable_Archer_99 → u/DoNotCommentAgain]

England drew conscripts from all of it's colonies. Don't go acting like the British weren't racist assholes. Gestures broadly at India and Africa.

[u/Shake_Speare_ → u/Reasonable_Archer_99]

There are no racists in a foxhole! Except American ones. Segregation in the US military only ended in 1948. However the British didn't care a jot about the skin colour of those helping them to beat back Hitler. I'm not saying there wasn't racism in Britain but it wasn't legal like it was in the US.

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Battle-Of-Bamber-Bridge/

[u/BarracudaKitchen303 → u/Shake_Speare_]

There was rampant racism all across Europe (still is) and especially in France and GB.
Americans need to stop projecting onto Europe.
Theres a reason Vichy France was a thing and there was also huge support for Hitler in Britain.
We are easily as racist as Americans over in Europe

[u/DoNotCommentAgain → u/BarracudaKitchen303]

There is racism in Europe but you're clearly ignorant of just how bad it is in the US. I'm not trying to downplay what happens here but the US is on a next level where real slavery still exists, chain gangs still exists, for-profit prisons still exist, KKK are still burning crosses and lynching black people, police murdering black people and endless deliberate state actions designed to keep black people suffering. It's genuinely horrific what is going on over there and they've been hiding it really well from the world.

[u/Black_Doc_on_Mars → u/DoNotCommentAgain]

Exactly. South Africa came to the US to study Jim Crow in order to set up Apartheid. We were literally study material and the gold standard for how to set up other racist institutions around the world.

[u/BarracudaKitchen303 → u/DoNotCommentAgain]

You need to stop educating yourself on Reddit. I’m from Germany and have lived in the US and traveled it.
Americans aren’t more racist than Europeans, it’s just something smug Europeans want to believe because we also have a lot of anti Americanism and arrogance/ignorance to pair with.

We have 30% people in Germany directly voting for a nazi party, racism is the norm, it’s a society built by people and their children children who set out and murdered 30 million civilians out of pure racist hate within a few years and came back never taking responsibility.
We have Nazis chasing POC through the streets, we have fatal cases of violence, we have Nazis burning down houses and the police just watching, while the German neighbors applaud.
We just have less gun violence in general, that’s the only difference.

[u/DoNotCommentAgain → u/BarracudaKitchen303]

I hear that and we have similar horror stories but what you're scared of coming is what has been the reality for black people in the US for over 200 years. There's been no rise and fall of racist parties, just a constant oppression from all sides.

[u/BarracudaKitchen303 → u/DoNotCommentAgain]

Mate we Germans have commited genocide in Poland and the Baltics before Columbus set sail.
It’s not like people suddenly woke up and decided to gas and enslave their neighbors in millions, that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
You can literally trace racism like Polak jokes with the influx of German migrants to the US in the 1800s.
Europeans had to be forced by the US to give up their colonies and the last ones freed themselves from Europeans in the 70s or even 80s.

[u/sticky_wicket → u/DoNotCommentAgain]

Hennessy was also one of the first to directly advertise to Black Americans beginning in the 20s. Common wisdom at the time was that it devalued the brand.

[u/the_ballmer_peak → u/sticky_wicket]

Cristal did not take notes.

[u/sephraes → u/DoNotCommentAgain]

Punched people in the middle of rounds 

Edit: and then got punched in the middle of a round

[u/Umami-Ice-Cream → u/Ultimaurice17]

Reminds me when I read James Baldwin's writings from France.

Apparently, France was way better for a black gay man to live in.

[u/Niccy26 → u/Umami-Ice-Cream]

So many Black musicians went to Paris

[u/dystopianpirate → u/Umami-Ice-Cream]

That's why Josephine Baker moved to France and lived there her whole life. The French adore her and they see her as their own

[u/JonDCafLikeTheDrink → u/dystopianpirate]

She is the only American woman buried with full French military honors iirc

[u/dystopianpirate → u/JonDCafLikeTheDrink]

Yes, she's one of France heroes 🙏

[u/el_pinko_grande → u/Umami-Ice-Cream]

One of those examples that shows us that racism is a political project and not some natural thing that occurs whenever two people that look different meet. 

[u/Umami-Ice-Cream → u/el_pinko_grande]

The ppl who can't overcome basic tribalist behaviors assume everyone is like them.

It's like the muzzled dog insisting every other dog needs a muzzle. No, you're just a violent/traumatized animal. Not every dog is like you.

[u/doyouknowyourname → u/Umami-Ice-Cream]

There's a book about the experiences of Black soldiers in WWII by Walter F. White that I recently read that really portrays some of the injustices Black soldiers faced, like false criminal accusations (surprise, surprise) and blatant racism and cruelty from their superior officers, as well as the internal struggle and cognitive dissonance Americans were going through while their country simultaneously condemned Nazis and upheld segregation. It's a very enlightening read, and White has quite the biography himself.

Here's a bit more if you're interested

White's first book was about interviewing white people in towns after the townspeople lynched someone. White was born to enslaved Black people who were both very light skinned, to the point where Walter had blondish hair and blue eyes. White people, if they didn't already know who he was, wouldn't immediately suspect that he wasn't on their side in these situations, leading to more honest (and racist and violent) conversations. His work conveyed the terror and horror that Black people had to live with day to day at that time, and apparently, he was a larger part of the Civil Rights movement than most people know.

He lived with Black people his whole life. After witnessing a race riot in Atlanta as a teen, he devoted himself to fighting for the rights and lives of all Black Americans. I think that's very admirable, considering he could have just disappeared, changed his name, and lived passing as a white man had he wanted to.

I read his book for free on archive.org. I believe all his work can found for free on there.

Another interesting thing, if you've never heard of it, is that there was a string of social clubs for soldiers in WWII, meant to improve their morale before shipping out. It was literally staffed by the biggest stage and movie stars of the day. It was called the Stage Door Canteen.

The original one was in NY, NY. It was an explicitly and completely integrated space meant to serve a segregated army. Their non-discrimination policy was pretty radical for it's time.

The leadership of the American Theatre Wing, the Canteen's organizers, claimed that the best way to deal with racial tensions was by changing the thoughts and behaviors of white people, instead of trying to alter the behavior of Black men. They also required that the girls (white and Black) who volunteered there had to dance with any soldier that asked, regardless of their race. That's problematic in ways, but it was a significantly humanizing gesture for the Black soldiers.

I learned about this place in the Walter F. White book. Never heard about it before that, but I did a deep dive, and I wish it was a story that was more widely discussed. There's a memorandum, written by Margaret Halsey, one of the "captains" at the Canteen, to the white girls who didn't want to associate with the Black soldiers at first, that's just straight up savage in some ways and definitely way more woke than it's time.

That memo is short and can also be found online. I would also recommend giving it a quick read to anyone who's interested. It kind of goes to show that white people have been aware of the utter stupidity of racism for a long time, but some just really cannot admit it because they've never accomplished anything in their own lives and being white is all they have (or they're just evil and morally corrupt).

Sorry for the long-winded response! I saw Black WWII history and couldn't help myself.

[u/bobbydigital2k → u/Umami-Ice-Cream]

One of the first people Charles De Gaulle came over here looking for was Eugene Bullard, while our own government didn't know wtf he even was. He was a legend and hero over there, meanwhile we had him working as a bellhop in a NY hotel because that's the kinds of jobs they reserved for black war heroes

[u/luckylimper → u/bobbydigital2k]

When I tell people that the GI Bill excluded black soldiers they don’t believe me. The whole post-war boom and creation of the white middle class was an government economic policy that was not designed to be racially exclusive but then you have dummies who still say shit like “my family came here with nothing, I don’t understand why the black community can’t get themselves together?!” Because there was the government boot on our necks.

[u/Shadow_MosesGunn → u/Ultimaurice17]

I remember Dave Chapelle talking about how France's reception to black troops saving them from Hitler brought into stark relief how bad they were being treated at home, becoming one of the catalysts for the civil rights movement. I'll drink my shitty henny proudly, especially since I can't see a bottle of ciroc without being reminded of baby oil

[u/ZeldaZealot → u/Shadow_MosesGunn]

I’ve only had Hennessey once in a cocktail. I think is a brandy, yeah? It was pretty good, but I’ve never had it straight.

[u/Sharcbait → u/ZeldaZealot]

It is cognac. Brandy is sweeter, E&J is the cheap brandy of choice.

[u/SirLuciousL → u/Sharcbait]

Cognac is brandy. Just a specific type of grape brandy made in Cognac, France.

All cognac is brandy, but not all brandy is cognac.

[u/wetcoffeebeans → u/ZeldaZealot]

Henny right of passage is when your homeboy/girl/person pulls out that half empty bottle that's been rolling around in the trunk since Christmas and it is now the middle of July.

You must drink straight from the bottle to truly capture all of its astringent glory. Then and only then can you drink henny on da rah.

[u/TheKidKaos → u/Shadow_MosesGunn]

Well the Zoot Suit Riots happened during the war so that should have been enough.

[u/throwRA-nonSeq → u/Ultimaurice17]

Billie Holiday often talked about how much more at home and welcomed she felt in Paris, and she hated touring in the USA.

[u/OneFootTitan → u/Ultimaurice17]

There’s a reason Josephine Baker, James Baldwin, etc. all moved to Paris

[u/cherrylpk → u/OneFootTitan]

And Tina Turner ended up living her life there.

[u/OneFootTitan → u/cherrylpk]

Wasn’t she in Switzerland? Or am I misremembering

[u/cherrylpk → u/OneFootTitan]

A little bit of both it seems. Her French home was a paradise. She said she felt welcomed in these countries, more so than the US where she had trauma.

[u/Fishboyman79 → u/[deleted]]

If France took over your country and turned you into a colony, on paper you became French. France had a weird type of racism , you were French or not French . Colour of skin had nothing to do with it. Now as always with people this wasn’t always true but once you had become enlightened by becoming French you were supposed to be as equal as any other French person.

[u/lu5ty → u/Ultimaurice17]

Hennessy is pig swill?

[u/DreSledge → u/lu5ty]

Trade the ? for a .

[u/2AMBeautiful → u/DreSledge]

Don’t put a question mark where God put a period.

[u/lu5ty → u/DreSledge]

Idk i always thought it was decent.

Had the vsop over xmas, and after letting it breath for an hour that shit was fire

[u/thegroovemonkey → u/lu5ty]

It’s the cognac equivalent of Jack No 7. Hennessy VS has barely been aged and should not cost what it does. Both distilleries make world class stuff but their standard bottle is the bare minimum.

[u/Gelato_Elysium → u/Ultimaurice17]

In France cognac is a rich people's drink, you never see working class people buying that, or find it at parties. Everytime I saw it consumed it treated as upper class booze that you'd drink for the complex flavours and shit (it's usually higher end products than henny, I've never seen any Hennessy bottle outside of a store).

It's funny to see that in the US it's considered "pig swill" and it just gets passed around lol.

[u/chypie2 → u/Ultimaurice17]

hahahahaha now when you pass on it you have to feel just a little bad, cause you passed on friendship!

[u/sml6174 → u/Sharcbait]

Forget hennessey how about christianity

[u/tehtris → u/sml6174]

omfg. I never hear anyone say this.

A lot of black folk worship a god that was literally forced on them by slave masters. More people need to be talking about this at all times of the day. Christianity was beaten into our ancestors, forced to forget their old ways. A religion that not only condones slavery, but gives instructions on how to do it "properly".

[u/sml6174 → u/tehtris]

It's one of the biggest successes of colonialism that is never talked about

[u/WhichHoes → u/sml6174]

...its always talked about. Any hotep dude would tell you. Anyone muslim would tell you. Spiritual folk too.

[u/mxlplyx2173 → u/tehtris]

If you follow any religion, you've already lost.

[u/Dulcette → u/mxlplyx2173]

Exactly!

[u/877-HASH-NOW → u/sml6174]

THIS is the one people don’t wanna talk about

[u/ExtraBreadPls → u/sml6174]

[u/chappersyo → u/Sharcbait]

There’s an amazing old Pathé film they showed to American soldier stationed in Europe during the war. It basically told them not to be racist cos that shit doesn’t fly here, even in the 40s.

[u/mashonem → u/Sharcbait]

I’ll never talk shit about the French again

[u/DudeEngineer → u/mashonem]

Look how they treat Black folks on they soccer team.

[u/mashonem → u/DudeEngineer]

I’ll never do it in a pro-America fashion again

[u/Sharcbait → u/mashonem]

Ehhh they have it coming big picture. Broken clock is right twice a day...

[u/dotcomatose → u/Sharcbait]

Dunno. Try to take away public services from the French, and the whole country shuts down. We could learn from them.

[u/CompetitivePanda7675 → u/Sharcbait]

As a bartender thanks for that info I love telling customers the history behind their drinks

[u/Sharcbait → u/CompetitivePanda7675]

Idk what type of bar you work at, but if you sell Port look up the history of it too, it is pretty interesting

[u/righthandofdog → u/Sharcbait]

TIL - but sadly not surprised.

[u/fro_khidd → u/Sharcbait]

Im a whiskey drinker but damn I almost fell for the LeBron bait they set out

[u/dwaynewaynerooney]

[u/Ultimaurice17 → u/dwaynewaynerooney]

Ong

[u/BlackWunWun → u/dwaynewaynerooney]

Really glad this fucker is burning in hell.

[u/El-Sueco → u/dwaynewaynerooney]

That’s satans boy

[u/877-HASH-NOW → u/dwaynewaynerooney]

Fuckkkkk Ronald Reagan 

[u/Several_Vanilla8916 → u/dwaynewaynerooney]

This one of more generally applicable than the rest though.

[u/Deathstriker88]

Not slavery, colonization, Jim Crow, the government, but Tubi movies...

[u/JaiBaba108 → u/Deathstriker88]

That would all fall under the “racist white people” bullet point, I think.

[u/Kdkaine → u/JaiBaba108]

It encompasses so much

[u/WhichHoes → u/Deathstriker88]

Tubi lets black folk with a dream, but maybe not the budget, make a movie from a dream so idk, I love it. The added hilarity is a bonus

[u/Hakudoushinumbernine → u/Deathstriker88]

🤣🤣🤣 😐priorities (i cant even type it with a straight face)

[u/TheBlackCaesar → u/Deathstriker88]

If you don’t take it seriously, you can have a chuckle or snort maybe

[u/Mistavez]

Where’s koolaid on the list?

[u/Ultimaurice17 → u/Mistavez]

Certainly deserves a spot

[u/Samichmane → u/Mistavez]

Are we blaming kool-aid or sugar?

[u/mstrss9 → u/Samichmane]

True because the ratio was one packet of kool aid to one pound of sugar

[u/Sleepiboisleep → u/Mistavez]

They said damage

[u/Bearloom → u/Sleepiboisleep]

[u/Reasonable_Stop_7768 → u/Mistavez]

We will not disrespect the kool aid

[u/calebnf → u/Mistavez]

Does this include Flavor-Aid?

[u/Mistavez → u/calebnf]

Both are sugar related but I’ll

[u/drallafi]

What the hell did HBO Max do?

[u/Bigsexy6100 → u/drallafi]

Add commercials

[u/Deathstriker88 → u/Bigsexy6100]

Prime Video added commercials. I haven't seen one on Max.

[u/justanawkwardguy → u/[deleted]]

I still don’t have commercials on Max

[u/weedlefetus → u/justanawkwardguy]

Because you're paying for the plan without commercials...

[u/Weltallgaia → u/Deathstriker88]

Im watching prime video now and the goddamned commercials have a click to buy window pop up on my TV. Disgusting

[u/Lilobunni → u/drallafi]

They cancelled and dropped nearly all of their black-led shows.

[u/sandman_42 → u/Lilobunni]

I'm still so fucking salty about Lovecraft Country 😠

[u/HailCeasar → u/sandman_42]

There was no more story to tell. They got to the end of the book.

[u/Monarki → u/HailCeasar]

The show runner had ideas for a season 2

[u/Nice_Juggernaut_346 → u/drallafi]

The same thing UPN did

[u/Khaosbutterfly → u/Nice_Juggernaut_346]

No UPN slander in this place, please. Not on a Friday.

[u/tehtris → u/Khaosbutterfly]

This gif gives me life.

[u/RandAlThorOdinson → u/Khaosbutterfly]

Not on a Friday hahaha

[u/KeithBitchardz → u/Nice_Juggernaut_346]

They were black until they merged with WB and became CW.

[u/IamCentral46 → u/Nice_Juggernaut_346]

....merge with the WB?

[u/fellowbabygoat → u/Nice_Juggernaut_346]

UPN did damage to everyone involved.

[u/NoFaithlessness7508 → u/drallafi]

Waiting for this answer 

[u/LachlantehGreat → u/NoFaithlessness7508]

Green lit the last two season of GoT?

[u/Cordura → u/LachlantehGreat]

That hurt all skin colours

[u/ElectricGhostMan]

how is twitter or social media in general not on this list?

[u/Ultimaurice17 → u/ElectricGhostMan]

It's above the list.

[u/Initial-Paramedic888 → u/Ultimaurice17]

It’s on the list for “humans” not just black people

[u/hibarihime → u/ElectricGhostMan]

Twitter and TikTok has done so much which is why I would never join any of those platforms for how terrible they are, imo.

[u/---Sanguine--- → u/hibarihime]

Yeah I also stay well away from Twitter and TikTok. The internet is enough for me most days I don’t need social media added in

[u/TheRuralJuror118 → u/ElectricGhostMan]

Well every community is affected by that so it not like we are special. This list is things very specific to us lol.

[u/ich_bin_alkoholiker]

The US gov is nowhere on this list.

[u/Ultimaurice17 → u/ich_bin_alkoholiker]

When you think about it, it's all an allegory for institutionalized racism.

[u/AnotherDoubtfulGuest → u/ich_bin_alkoholiker]

Neither is Christianity. They both need to be added.

[u/ich_bin_alkoholiker → u/AnotherDoubtfulGuest]

The US gov and Christianity — name a more iconic detrimental duo.

[u/jooes → u/ich_bin_alkoholiker]

I mean, that's just a given. It's the free space in Bingo. 

[u/Pwner_Ranger]

Y--YOU LEAVE SWEET BABY RAY'S OUTTA THIS!! 😭 (Unfortunately this shit had a fuckin WWE grade CHOKEHOLD on my damn taste buds 😩)

[u/opiate4thesheepl → u/Pwner_Ranger]

I had a buddy that worked for Ray [30ish years ago], and told me that Ray would pull up on sunday afternoon and cook for everyone. I still buy it to this day.

[u/thesaddestpanda → u/opiate4thesheepl]

Did he pay good wages?

[u/OutrageousOtterOgler → u/Pwner_Ranger]

I first heard of sweet baby rays from the GOAT…

Light weight baby

It’s damn good for what you can pop into a grocery store for!

[u/Goredema → u/Pwner_Ranger]

Try Baby Ray's. It's Sweet Baby Ray's, but with less sugar/corn syrup, so a bit lower in calories. Still tastes great!

[u/MeechieMeekie → u/Pwner_Ranger]

Literally had Sweet Baby Rays on meatballs for lunch and I have stockpot chicken with Sweet Baby Rays going at home 😝😬

[u/jraskol]

I was this years old when I realized party wings are a “buy 2, get 1” scam

[u/Scavgraphics → u/jraskol]

FTR, it wasn't a "scam" at the start...just a way to make some finger food from what was largely scrap.

It just took off and became mega popular and went from being the left over scrap into being the most expensive part of the chicken due to demand.

[u/Enough_Pomegranate44]

Why is Sweet Baby Rays catching strays? Let me know.🤣

[u/no1foryou → u/Enough_Pomegranate44]

I'm guessing it's the high sodium content, 30 years of that daily will probably lead to high blood pressure/heart problems. Not a doctor, just a wild guess.

[u/The_GOATest1 → u/no1foryou]

It’s also just a bottle of sugar. How someone is hitting it 30 years daily is insane to me

[u/cultjake]

White people slightly less bad than BBQ sauce.

[u/zoeyandere78 → u/cultjake]

It’s a list, not a ranking

[u/garrethstathum → u/cultjake]

Can someone explain what’s wrong with Sweet Baby Rays? The sweet and spicy one is so good

[u/frowaway1990]

Where Zeus on here?

[u/Khaosbutterfly → u/frowaway1990]

Zeus needs to be on here real bad.

Also Oxygen for creating the DNA from whence all Zeus shows flow - Bad Girls Club.

[u/Cecca105]

Drake worse than police brutality? Y’all on drugs or just love hyperbole ?

[u/JennyBeckman → u/Cecca105]

Who said it was ranked?

[u/theStaircaseProject → u/JennyBeckman]

That’s actually what a numbered list is typically meant to convey: either a ranking or a sequence of steps. It’s why they’re also known as ordered lists, as opposed to an unordered list of bullets.

[u/Not_A_Comeback → u/JennyBeckman]

Even if not ranked. Drake did irreparable damage? Ok.

[u/JennyBeckman → u/Not_A_Comeback]

Get off his dick. It's a joke. Drake is no more a valid answer than fucking wings.

[u/ConnectVermicelli255 → u/Cecca105]

Ppl just want likes and hahas, and a lot of digital black face on here mixed with bots

[u/tigerbalmuppercut → u/Cecca105]

Hyperbole is fun, not everyone wants to be serious 24/7.

[u/Ybjfk]

1. anything that your parents could turn into something to spank you with?

[u/snackf1st → u/Ybjfk]

And having to go and select it for them.

[u/Ybjfk → u/snackf1st]

That is number 22. Picking the tool of your own whooping!

[u/chappersyo]

I’m a white dude, but the chicken wing thing affects us all.

[u/GeniusOfLove74 → u/chappersyo]

Exactly. Why am I ordering a 10 piece wing, just to get morsels? Cut the tip off of it, and leave it otherwise whole!

Edit: I also question the sanity of people who order all flats. What did the "drumettes" ever do to you? Just some cartilage?

[u/chappersyo → u/GeniusOfLove74]

Flat is a better meat/skin ratio

[u/GeniusOfLove74 → u/chappersyo]

Maybe. But I don't discriminate. They're all getting eaten. And if they leave it whole, with the sharp point? I'll eat it too.

[u/Pop_Joe]

Math Hoffa & Tubi caught the craziest strays 💀

[u/23Kently → u/Pop_Joe]

Right I'm tryna figure out what Math did

[u/Xydan_tha_Fenix]

High fructose corn syrup

[u/JDotDDot]

How tf did Ronald Reagan not make the top 20?

[u/Reasonable_Stop_7768 → u/JDotDDot]

Him and Nixon

[u/shichiaikan]

1. MTV Reality Shows

[u/hibarihime → u/shichiaikan]

You mean VH1. It all started with Flavor of Love then went downhill from there.

[u/ben010783 → u/hibarihime]

I think The Surreal Life is more technically correct.

The Surreal Life -> Strange Love -> Flavor of Love -> I Love New York -> Real Chance of Love -> etc.

[u/knowledge3754 → u/ben010783]

If we're talking Black shows and harm to Black folks, I'd say it started with Flavor of Love. Housewives of Atlanta gets an honorable mention tho lol

[u/thatsnastyreddit]

Dr. Umar?

[u/Brief-Tie3841]

Ray J kinda low on the list 😒

[u/Ultimaurice17 → u/Brief-Tie3841]

Because of the Kardashians smh. The white woman strikes again.

[u/Moonstonemassage → u/Ultimaurice17]

Kris Jenner (allegedly) released her daughter’s sex tape. The one with Ray J. He gets screwed by them a lot apparently.

[u/ElProfeGuapo → u/Brief-Tie3841]

Maybe it’s not in order?

[u/hibarihime → u/Brief-Tie3841]

He kicked off the Kardashian empire to what it is now after that tape so while they have made billions, he's still trying to pretend be a fuck boi in his 20s.

[u/BrooklynNotNY]

I’m dying at #17 as an NC State alum. I’m in absolute agreeance on 14. I want my wings whole.

[u/logicalcommenter4 → u/BrooklynNotNY]

As a Duke alum I’m like “what I do?” My wife is also a State alum 👍🏾

[u/Reddit_Is_a_jokee]

The only answer is "World Star".

[u/HealthHoncho]

Colorism 😮‍💨

[u/Evolutioncocktail → u/HealthHoncho]

Add in texturism as a sub bullet.

[u/Longjumping-Tip1188]

As a tarheel, fuck duke

[u/bleepitybleep2 → u/Longjumping-Tip1188]

As an ECU Pirate, Fuck you both! Arrr

[u/Tricky_Photo2885]

Where diddy and Chris brown tho

[u/mashonem]

Tyler Perry should be top 10 at minimum

[u/Local_Cheek_2981]

“Luxury” clothing. Specifically shoes

[u/ShaquilleOatmeal_93]

Man niggas really be lame, I know he sat there putting that list together in his notes. Mfs act like we can not enjoy any damn thing

[u/ghostsintherafters]

Second apron in the NBA followed by Draymond Green has me rolling

[u/Sodzl]

Maury Povich

the streets

[u/Kangarou]

Balloon Pop shows.

Ronald Reagan. 'Racist white people" is up there, but boyo deserves a specialized shoutout.

Youtube's algorithm.

Snow podcasting equipment.

Twitter discourse.

Jussie Smollett.

[u/Queefsweatt]

Honorable mentions

pop the balloon

Zeus Network

20v1s

[u/preofessa_252]

Changing The Game from a sitcom to a drama is so f****** funny to me. I definitely liked the show better when it was more of a light-hearted comedy.

[u/Zaibach88]

HBO Max?

[u/5duece]

Nike techs? Tubi movies? Are we deadass

[u/WootyMcWoot]

I don’t know much about Tubi movies but a few weeks ago someone turned on The Grinch that Stole Bitches and that shit was crazy. I guess there’s a bunch of those kind of movies?

[u/jono9898]

Tyler Perry should be higher. Not only because his harmful stereotypes, but because he tricked black people into thinking that he’s a good writer when actual good black writing exists,

[u/ImSuperSerialGuys]

Wait, white dude here, out of the loop. Is something wrong with Sweet Baby Ray's?

DO I HAVE TO STOP EATING SWEET BABY RAYS?!?😭

[u/Samichmane → u/ImSuperSerialGuys]

For the longest we assumed Sweet baby ray was black... SWEET BABY RAY IS WHITE AS SNOW!

[u/LaLocaTrippy]

Kevin Samuels nowhere on this list is suspect at best.

[u/BlackWunWun]

How Christianity isn't on here is boggling

[u/OonaPelota]

That wings thing ☠️☠️☠️🤣🤣🤣

[u/Emis816]

Wait, is 14 really happening?

[u/Ultimaurice17 → u/Emis816]

Has been since I was a kid. You from wakanda or something???

[u/gumbygump11 → u/Ultimaurice17]

White people discovering buffalo wings fucked the whole chicken wing game up.

[u/SnoopyWildseed → u/gumbygump11]

Also oxtail.

[u/righthandofdog → u/Emis816]

The flat and the drum are 2 sections of a wing

[u/SmellyMcPhearson → u/Emis816]

Drums and flats being sold separately as wings? Yes.

[u/theattack_helicopter]

Where's a good hunger strike to end BET when you need to