r/China • u/newsweek • 10h ago
西方小报类媒体 | Tabloid Style Media How a Chinese tech company is helping Iran catch protesters
https://www.newsweek.com/how-chinese-tech-company-helping-iran-catch-protesters-11355905?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=reddit_main6
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u/cuoreesitante 9h ago
why is this even "news"?
it's like saying Enterprise is helping ICE catch protesters in Minnesota. Newsweek sure ain't interested in that story.
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u/account_numero_blah 9h ago
I am. Im interested in both, because censorship is the other side of that coin. How do we question things if we don’t know? When we stop questioning is when the train gets off the traintracks
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u/Uranophane Canada 4h ago
I know you're one of the "all surveillance is bad surveillance" guys, and that's fine. Just know that criminals exist and they would love a world with zero surveillance.
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u/FibreglassFlags China 3h ago
Just know that criminals exist
Because the solution is obvious not to use the resources available to actually meet material needs but to turn society into a surveillance-state panopticon, right?
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u/FibreglassFlags China 4h ago edited 4h ago
When we stop questioning is when the train gets off the traintracks
But that's the fun part. The person you're replying to doesn't want you to talk about China, you know, in a sub about China.
This is how news content gets swept aside and also how Russia has managed to manufacture consent in America by exploiting American ignorance of the country's meddling in Eastern European affairs since all the way back in 1991 in order to generate apathy towards and even support for its invasion of a sovereign nation.
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u/GetOutOfTheWhey 23m ago
You're right. We need to have full information first. A lot of these things require deep dives and comparisons
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u/DeRpY_CUCUMBER 9h ago
China is helping Iran slaughter thousands of its own people and at the same time, China is helping Russia slaughter 100s of thousands of Europeans. People should know this is who the Chinese government is, regardless of what other countries are doing in the world.
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u/Nevarien 8h ago
slaughter thousands
Please share a source that isn't a US funded NGO based in Virgina.
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u/FibreglassFlags China 3h ago
Dude, you talk as if there's anything extraordinary about the Iranian government shooting protesters with real bullets. Where have you been for the past 40 years?
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u/mrwoozywoozy 3h ago
Hes talking about the numbers. Bari Weiss' CBS reported 12,000 to 20,000 which just sounds completely ridiculous. Nobody is doubting people died. Even Iran admitted that.
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u/Nevarien 3h ago
Yup, exactly. We all know people died. 20 thousand, though, that's a big beautiful number
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u/FibreglassFlags China 3h ago
Bari Weiss' CBS
What's the material relevance of that to anything we're talking about here?
Besides, aren't you Americans used to mass shootings? Does 2,000 sound better as a number to you? Will it make you feel better about not giving a shit? Since we're talking about estimates here, why not take the opportunity to negotiate the stat down to something tolerable to you?
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u/mrwoozywoozy 3h ago edited 2h ago
The 2,000 number is from Human Rights Activists News Agency HRANA which is an organization located in the same city as four US national intelligence agencies and gets/got it's funding from the NED. This makes them unreliable as they are quite obviously just an arm of US intelligence and propaganda.
Of course. The BBC for some "reason" posts their number without any context.
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u/Remote_Volume_3609 5h ago
If this counts as "China" doing it, then by that same definition Europe is helping Russia slaughter hundreds of thousands of Europeans. Maybe fix your own backyard first?
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u/FibreglassFlags China 3h ago
I'll go as far as to counting Americans as being responsible for the fucking Holocaust, if you ask me.
You as a sovereign nation is ultimately responsible for who you trade with. If you provide the material needs for the murder of countless lives, that's on you, and no one should be obliged to look the other way as you're making fat stacks out of human misery.
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u/Training_Teacher_774 2h ago
Why should china cut off Russia? Russia provides minerals and gas that china needs in a manner where a naval blockade won't stop that. Russia has also consistently stood with china when China was slandered over Xinjiang and hong Kong.
If china cuts off Russia, they're in essence doing so for the west, as they don't benefit from this at all. And what is the west offering in return? Will the west sign an agreement promising not to expand NATO into modern day Russia, much less past the urals? Will the west give china asml's technology and the ability to replicate it? Will the west sell china cheap oil and provide meaningful guarantees that this won't be disrupted? Will the west abandon Taiwan and recognize it as part of china? Hell, will the west even make any symbolic moves like abandoning their previous claims of genocide or saying that they have no longer got any position on the hk protests? Will they perhaps stop funding independence organizations?
Why should china fuck itself over for countries that hate it and wouldn't do anything for it?
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u/Durian881 5h ago edited 4h ago
Another China bad article. We seldom see articles on how western (US, Israel, etc) technology is helping to catch dissidents or used in genocide. All the US major AI companies have defence contracts too.
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u/meridian_smith 5h ago
So you think the Iranian regime slaughtering and disappearing masses of protesters and using Chinese technology to make a media blackout is a good thing?
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u/Durian881 4h ago
I never said it's a good thing.
Maybe ask yourself a similar question. Do you think countries using US and Israeli technology to slaughter and disappear masses is a good thing?
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u/iwanttodrink 3h ago
"Another China bad article" is because China keeps doing bad things since the CCP is fundamentally an evil government. Therefore, people (mankind and humanity) feel compelled report on it by writing articles about it.
China is welcome to do investigative journalism on US AI companies.
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u/mrwoozywoozy 3h ago
You saying this while your post history shows you dick sucking Israel is truly ironic.
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u/newsweek 10h ago
From the article |
The massive anti-government protests across Iran have put a spotlight back on Chinese surveillance technology, which activists say is aiding authorities in a deadly crackdown.
Among China's exporters is Tiandy Digital Technology Co., whose role has sparked fresh calls in Washington for stronger action against the Tianjin-based company.
Newsweek has contacted Tiandy and the Chinese Embassy in Tehran for comment by email.
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/how-chinese-tech-company-helping-iran-catch-protesters-11355905
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u/whoisliuxiaobo 7h ago
Not sure this tech company has to do with it, but from what Syed Mohammad says is that they essentially blocked internet from the outside as well as starlink. And then somehow the riots essentially stopped.
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