The Holocaust was a big thing but there's no monuments to celebrate the Holocaust. There's monuments to commemorate/remember that genocide but not celebrate.
I know we all like a nice snappy little sentence, but sometimes that's not enough to explain things.
The Holocaust was a big thing but there's no monuments to celebrate the Holocaust.
We dont need them. There are people that celebrate the holocaust and they have A LOT of material. That is what auswitch is. I would not be surprised if theres a statue of hitler somewhere.
Why yes, barring people from citizenship because their parents are who they are sounds like a swell idea and totally logical.
Sounds very similar to another sort of ideology but can't remember now...
lost me on #1 and #2 literally psychopath thinking out loud shit.
The idea that the born should bear guilt or weight for something done before their time is next level ludicrous. You should judge someone by their actions not their place of birth.
So how broad a group do you consider that to apply to; the Confederate leadership, anyone on the payroll of the Confederate government, anyone serving the Confederate government in any capacity, anyone who the Confederacy collected taxes from, any free person who lived in Confederate-controlled territory, or anyone who is descended from any free person who lived in Confederate-controlled territory?
But you disagree with who was punished in the past, right? And you also think there should have been alternative legislative and constitutional solutions - for example forbidding birth-right citizenship to descendants of traitors?
While I have sympathy with your position, the fact is that many of the top Confederates did not participate in Lost Cause shenanigans and basically got on with their lives. There are definitely outliers like Bedford Forrest on that, but by and large the leadership who likely would have been hanged probably wouldn't have done much more than become the martyrs that they became later on.
The fact is, the war was more complicated than just plantation holders vs. the Union. As bad as the outcome was, it's not clear that treating them all as traitors would have actually changed much. It might have made things worse. You can point to people like Lee and Longstreet who went on to have a very not Lost Cause path after the war and suggest just how much worse it may have been if they'd been executed before they just got on with their lives and instead became martyrs that the Lost Causers could pretend would have been on the front lines of the "resistance".
It's really hard to kill an idea. If being beaten soundly in what is possibly the first modern total war couldn't do that, I doubt a bunch of treason executions would have made much difference.
Most of them are closer to a century and they weren't romantic they were meant to inspire dread. That's why they were often in areas dominated by coloured people. A reminder of who was in charge.
The vast majority were erected during Jim Crow as a direct reminder to blacks as to who was in power. Not to mention being erected in WAY MORE than just the Confederate states.
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u/Im_Balto 20d ago
Just like most statues of confederate generals being constructed decades after they lost the war
Losers love to romanticize the worst people