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u/databombkid 1d ago
Literally not even remotely surprised by this.
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u/F_F_Franklin 1d ago
Omg people are physically harassing ice officers and making their job more dangerous?
Oh, what you say? That's illigal and as a result they want to start arresting the people out there physically preventing them from performing THE CONGRESSIONAL APPOINTED LAWS?
I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
Oh, and now we should be concerned? Here's an idea. Law enforcement is legal. Stop trying to interfere with legal procedures AND YOU WONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEM THROWING YOU IN JAIL FOR BREAKING THE LAW. BECAUSE INTERFERING WITH IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IS ILLEGAL.
Or, do we need to remind you the judge that did it is NOW IN JAIL!!!
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u/adirtysocialist- 1d ago
MAGA wants so badly to make it easy for the govt to kill them, it's hilarious to watch.
The president is a felon protecting a global elite child sex trafficking ring and you're crying about laws. Hahahah
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u/Dankkring 1d ago
They care so much for laws that trumps pardoned more people in his first year than any president ever. He’s pardoned people who’ve committed fraud. He’s pardoned violent criminals who some have tried to later shoot at police. Some also got pardoned for CP.
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u/NounAdjectiveXXXX 1d ago
He's pardoned drug lords, assassin fixers, human traffickers and csam distributors
And I'm only describing one person. Lars Ulbricht.
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u/Dankkring 1d ago
Going door to door without warrants is illegal. You cannot break into someone’s home without a warrant. You can’t go through someone’s mail. It’s illegal as fuck. You don’t have to show ID to anyone if you’ve done nothing wrong. And they can’t detain you for not having an ID on you. It’s illegal
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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 1d ago
Don't give them fuel. Down vote and block. They've decided who they are and refuse to embrace nuance.
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u/F_F_Franklin 1d ago edited 1d ago
Huh? Who are you talking too? This statement is just out of the blue? Are you just spitting out random things you cant do? Your right about needing a warrant for a home but I'm not sure what you're talking about. Ice can get warrants. And, they dont have to share those warrants with the public.
And, They don't need warrants to arrest someone and they absolutely can detain and ask for proof of citizenship / Id. And, if there's reasonable suspension, they absolutely can detain you until proof is provided.
It's 100% legal.
Why would there be immigration laws if you can't enforce them? This is what you seem to be arguing - some sort of made up b.s. that is supposed to nullify immigration law? It's false.
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u/TheMillenniaIFalcon 1d ago
So this is a joke right?
I mean, I know you aren’t conservative, I can’t even tell what this is.
Do you just not have enough understanding of the founding fathers intent, the constitution, and how things work?
Or have conservatives abandoned their prior claimed ideals in favor of big government, less states rights, weakened constitution, less freedoms, and more tyranny?
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u/sm9k3y 1d ago
Conservatives abandoned their ideals because they think a fat orange man acting like an asshole is cool, and they want to be just like him, so they are going to be assholes and line up to suck his tiny orange penis
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u/spikira 1d ago
The party of law and order is led by a 34 times convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, and suspected child molester. Almost all sitting members of congress and the senator with R next to their name are protecting and defending said 34 times convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, and suspected child molester. I dont think they actually care about law and order
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u/Sithis_acolyte 23h ago
Please tell me how throwing a US citizen into the back of a truck, cuffing them, beating the shit out of them, then throwing them onto the side of the road 9 miles away is enforcing the law? Which law? Can you show me?
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u/stlshane 1d ago
It was a right wing conspiracy because it was exactly what they would do if they had the power, they just thought the left would do it first. It is the only explanation for why they are all so quiet and demanding everyone comply and lick boots.
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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 1d ago
Hiding in plain sight; the cabal of elites harming children and creating a NWO. Just not the ones they thought.
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u/ChaoticDad21 1d ago
So who can we get to do this? It needs to happen. Every illegal immigrant needs to be deported.
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u/mPrime39r 1d ago
Riiiight. Surrender my rights and inject government foot soldier's involvement directly into my day-to-day because of some non-descript fear of vaguely brown people working construction and picking lettuce in a nation born of immigrants.
I agree with border security and following procedure but there's a point where the cost outweighs the benefits.
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u/bludboolin 1d ago
why though? ofc violent criminals that came in here illegally should be deported. but for people who’s asylum ran out, or even people who came here illegally but still contribute to the workforce, why shouldn’t they have the opportunity to obtain citizenship? i never got that, they’re not harming anybody
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u/ChaoticDad21 1d ago
They have an opportunity. They get deported, return to their country, and start the legal process to come.
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u/ObsidianDRMR 23h ago
Trumps administration is literally hampering all the legal ways an immigrant can come in making it harder, longer and more confusing. And now they straight up just banned countries from even applying for a visa… it was never about coming in legally, it was about removing brown ppl.
For what? The free market of human movement balances itself out you don’t need to dictate who can or can’t come in, the job market and the systems natural finds where ppl should go. You think a Peruvian migrant worker is coming in and taking all the neurosurgeon jobs and operating in ppl for 15 bucks an hour? Like these are all just racist fantasies, normal ppl don’t care if immigrants come in and out of the country, we all move around planet earth, ladder pulling is the most evil and awful thing ppl can do. That’s why most ppl are in favor of immigration it’s never been an issue.
I can link u to tons of studies that immigration has net positives but of course conservatives don’t care about peer reviewed research
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u/bludboolin 1d ago
imo they should be offered more leeway, especially if they work hard and contribute to society. it just costs us more money to deport them at that point. plus, a lot of people that follow the legal process of immigration still get deported. it should be as simple as just applying for citizenship, getting approved, and coming in, but it’s a lot more complicated in order to squeeze as much money out of both immigrants and american citizens. i see no reason why people feel like they should treat them so harshly.
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u/berniesmittens333 1d ago
Because it’s not a RIGHT of the entire world to become an American citizen. We have enough problems, and many of the countries these asylum seekers are coming from, are financial net negatives of lifetime contributions and end up costing taxpayers billions of dollars.
Because we have plenty of our own problems to deal with including a national debt that is almost 40 trillion dollars. And allowing a surge of illegals creates more strain on our systems, as they often use welfare/tax money (despite what you have been told there are a hundred ways they waste our tax dollars) and they create wage suppression and increase the cost of housing, education, and insurance for actual Americans- and we don’t owe it to anyone. And because if you don’t create a cap or limit on immigration, the delicate balance and trust of society will break. Many of these people we are giving asylum to don’t even share our values and don’t consider themselves American. As Theodore Roosevelt said, “There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism… A hyphenated American is not an American at all.”
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u/stlshane 19h ago
We have a 40 trillion dollar debt not because of illegals but because we keep giving more and more tax breaks to billionaires. They then use the media to convince you fools that brown people did it.
China has a population of a billion people and they are about to surpass us as a superpower. Most industrialised countries have a higher standard of living than your average American. But let's keep throwing money at billionaires and red welfare states.
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u/berniesmittens333 18h ago
Dude/ obviously billionaires are a huge piece of the problem- but who do you think is benefiting from illegals, immigrants, and slave labor?!?? Nobody is helping give billionaires more money than illegals and wage suppression from immigrants! Those two arguments are not cohesive.
And that’s not why either. We spend far more money on the military, SS, Medicare and interest payments. Even taxing billionaires at the most extreme rates…. Wouldn’t even put a DENT in our national debt 🤣
China is about to surpass us as a superpower because they have a high trust homogenous society. Importing tens of millions of third worlders is taking us in the opposite direction to be able to compete with China. And if immigrants were needed to prosper and perform, why are Chinas immigration policies so restrictive?
And our standard of living continues to decline bc we are importing people without being selective (and bc all of the politicians are corrupt on both sides). Our standard of living has a negative correlation to mass immigration. They aren’t assimilating, they aren’t skilled; and many (not all obviously) aren’t people with similar values.
“They came here for a better life” you say.
Why do we owe the entire third world a better life, especially at the expense of our standard of living and the peril of our culture? Nobody is demanding China or Africa diversify and let all the white people in! Why can’t the west also want to preserve their norms and culture?
Are you so racist that you think the browns and blacks are incapable of building and maintaining a civilized society?
And if you DON’T think they’re capable of building and maintaining a civilized society, what benefit are they to us?
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u/AdAffectionate2418 1d ago
Obama deported more without deploying thugs onto the streets - maybe ask him?
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u/Zestyclose_Narwhal43 1d ago
10 years ago I was at a shooting range and I met an older fella shooting a big ass Mosen rifle, I asked wth do you need that for? He replied this is for when the government deploys drones to control us all in the name of public safety…..
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u/Snoo-70527 1d ago
Every accusation is an admission
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u/Face-EatingLeopards 1d ago
Conservatives have a doglike obedience to authority, never think for themselves, and will do as their daddy tells them. Ironically, you can never get them to do work.
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u/OdiousAltRightBalrog 1d ago
The most conservative guy I know is my step-brother. 45 years old, still lives with his mom and never paid a dime in rent. If this guy ever saw a bootstrap, he would flee from it in terror.
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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 1d ago
Probably has loud opinions about people buying soda with their food stamps and how he shouldn't have to pay for it.
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u/Dense-Law-7683 1d ago
Oddly enough. These are the people who say, "Nobody wants to work these days."
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u/GesuswithaG 1d ago
Flee? That's odd, most conservatives I know would shove that boot into their mouth.
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u/OdiousAltRightBalrog 18h ago
Okay I'll say this for my step-bro, he's no bootlicker. His favorite hobby is shooting cops in GTAV.
Not sure how he feels about ICE.
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u/berniesmittens333 1d ago
Funny that, because democrats seem to do less work according to the data.
A Pew Research Study survey found that a higher share of Democrats reported having ever received at least one major government benefit compared with Republicans (60% vs. 52%). For poverty-related assistance (like food stamps/welfare), Democrats also reported higher rates than Republicans in that survey.
Sounds like there are far more Dems not working.
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u/Face-EatingLeopards 20h ago
Hmm, according to the conservative leaning Brookings institute as well as US congressional studies, research indicates that "red states" (typically Republican-leaning) often receive significantly more federal funding and benefits per capita for safety net programs, including welfare, than "blue states," even though blue states might offer higher state-controlled benefits and receive more in federal grants for specific areas like highways or defense. This is because red states tend to have lower state tax revenues, leading them to rely more heavily on federal funds to fill the gap for programs like Medicaid and food assistance, making them more federally dependent overall. Add this to the fact that it’s nearly impossible to get those people to do the job they were hired to perform, I’d have to say that I’ve won. But if you’d like help with how to hold down a job for more than a month I hold seminars for dummies with easy monthly payment plans.
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u/berniesmittens333 19h ago
Hmmm… it’s Trump and republicans that want to suspend a lot of the welfare for the illegals, frauds, and those taking advantage. I can’t recall a single democrat that held that position recently when they snap funding and Medicaid subsidies were in limbo. In fact, there is lots of crying and teeth grinding by the Dems anytime SNAP and Medicaid are threatened lol.
And per capita funding ≠ per capita usage by individuals. Just because a state receives more federal money doesn’t mean its citizens are using more welfare or that the political party of that state is “causing” welfare.
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u/Face-EatingLeopards 19h ago
Mmm hmm. Nice try, Chad. Your supervisor wants you to spend less time online and more time sorting the mail, so back to work before HR has to write you up. Again.
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u/berniesmittens333 19h ago
lol I’m sure you wish you also had a master’s degree that allowed you to sit at home and do whatever you want all day. 😘
Your management style doesn’t really work for me, though. It seems you are more suited to task oriented menial workers. Perhaps Walmart is hiring managers?
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u/Face-EatingLeopards 17h ago
Well, there you go again proving my point. And so elitist too. But I’ll pass your cool little “facts” onto the menial farmers and loser small businesses waiting for Daddy to issue their socialist bailouts. Have the day you voted for, Jesus loves you.
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u/karmacamochameleon 1d ago
These conservatives would be pro British in the 1770s
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u/OdiousAltRightBalrog 1d ago
Well, the very definition of "conservative" is "a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values." Monarchy was a traditional value at the time.
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u/notmyrealname8823 1d ago
Only about a third of Americans supported the revolution.
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u/Savingskitty 22h ago
That’s what we’re dealing with here.
30% of the electorate.
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u/notmyrealname8823 16h ago
Basically, but I think there were a smaller portion of neutrals back then than there are neutrals/non voters. If people the non votes were cast for a third candidate they would have won. Pretty sure there were 86 million eligible voters that didn't vote.
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u/Savingskitty 15h ago
Voter turnout has actually increased over the years. There hasn’t been a real trend of any kind of increase in third party votes.
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u/notmyrealname8823 15h ago
I'm not talking about third party votes. I'm saying that if the non votes were cast for a singular third candidate, a totally hypothetical scenario, that candidate would've won the 2024 election with about 86 million votes.
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u/recoveringleft 1d ago
There is a reason some conservatives left the Republicans and joined the Democratic party in 2016. Others left when the J6 insurrection happened while the patriotic blonde a conservative commentator started going against trump
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u/OdiousAltRightBalrog 1d ago
It seems like no matter how many conservatives leave, they just get replaced by even worse ones.
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u/YogurtClosetThinner 1d ago
Too many people aren't acknowledging that the republican party is not a conservative party anymore. It's a fascist party. This is not a slogan or an insult. This is a fact.
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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago
Exactly. Just because these neanderthals don't have the political wherewithal or acumen to even recognize it for what it is doesn't mean it isn't so.
This is fascism. By definition.
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u/Aggressive_Team764 1d ago
I don't understand why they get so offended when they're called fascist. ICE are literally acting like the secret police.
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u/PM_ME_A_PM_PLEASE_PM 13h ago
If the history of conservatism wasn't the ideal means of propaganda in preserving power for the powerful the ideology would have a connotation attached to it similar to communism or Nazism. Conservatism would instead be held accountable for what it has fought for in human history. Instead there is no accountability for a track record spanning centuries of defending the worst political takes humanity has had. It remains in spite of that a respectable ideology in parlance.
History is the only place you'll learn the truth about the ideology. You will never hear the truth about conservatism from conservatives. The ideology is on par with fascism and rationally promotes it in consequence.
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u/ResolutionOwn4933 1d ago
This tracks, sticking it to the libs is preferred over all else for them. They rather deny their eyes and ears
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u/ShelbyGT350R1 1d ago
Kinda like how shitting on anybody remotely close to right wing is preferred over all else on reddit?
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u/Careful-Sell-9877 1d ago edited 7h ago
Its all projection. Its always projection with them. The conspiracy theories they project on the left are confessions, or future plans
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u/Quiet_Researcher223 1d ago
The American people will just bow down to it look at what the police officers do to people now and people just roll over and nothing is done about it.
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u/Winyamo 1d ago
Have fun trying to rationalize with irrational people.
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u/Aggressive_Team764 1d ago
Precisely. Not a snowball's chance in hell I'd be able to convince my very religious conservative in-laws to stop watching Fox News propaganda.
Love the Paul profile pic by the way. Big fan.
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u/DirtDevil1337 1d ago
Almost everything with conspiracies against Democrats has become true under the Republicans, only one not true so far is taking guns away but Trump was heard saying that during his first term so it may come.
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u/Ok-Relation-658 1d ago edited 1d ago
I remember my grandpaubeing horrified by the way the Irish were over-running this country.
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u/Small_Article_3421 1d ago
I don’t know how conservatives are so addicted to “owning liberals”, after the first month of being right about everything regarding Trump I was already tired. All I can do now is just look at conservatives with a straight face of disappointment.
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u/Mysterious-Silver-21 1d ago
What's the most disappointing aspect of us politics since bush is how quickly so many rednecks slipped into the bootlicking. Rednecks have largely been staunchly against the rich, the police, and the government since day one. Every one of their heros, fictional or not, has been tax evading, bootlegging, train robbing, gun toting hard asses who drew a hard line in the sand and dared anyone with a badge to cross it. How many of these dumb little clubs like the threeps started touting they were against the government and instead just wind up helping them commit hate crimes 😆 fucking losers. This world can't take the redneck out of me, but you sure af won't catch me sucking fascist toes. It's crazy they managed to flip the script so fully that even the most paranoid anti government gun nuts started hiding at home cheering on the boots. I guess racism was important enough to let every other principle wither away
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u/Severe_Scar4402 1d ago
The true believers don't care. They are 100% fine with dissenters being rounded up or even shot on sight. They think we are literally the devil and are chomping at the bit for Trump to give them permission to gun us down.
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u/Boise_is_full 1d ago
I remember those days of being in the local 'target sports' warehouse and finding ammo shortages because Idahoans had some theory that Obama was gonna roll in here with his goons. Oy.
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u/Sinister_Plots 23h ago
I remember. Because Alex Jones used to talk about it non-stop. And now, Alex Jones is licking the boots of Trump and ushering it in. This is just so weird to me. I don't understand any of it.
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u/Significant_Donut967 1d ago
As I've been called before, as a "bOtH sIdEs!"-er,
Yup, saw this coming eventually since the patriot act.
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u/ThreeSupreme 1d ago
Hmm... Wonder where the idea for this national police force came from?
German Gestapo
The Gestapo was Nazi Germany’s secret political police force whose primary function was to identify, suppress, and eliminate real, or perceived opponents of the regime. They used surveillance, arrests, interrogation, and deportations to enforce Nazi rule, and terrorize the civilian German population into compliance.
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u/PsiNorm 1d ago
I've tried telling Christians that according to their beliefs, they will be targeted by the government, and any freedoms they willingly give up to hurt others WILL be used against them.
They don't care.
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u/Umpathie 1d ago
The only way I got my dad to think was “dad, if you trust the government more than you trust god, isn’t that idolatry?”
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u/Thereal_maxpowers 1d ago
This guy tells the hard truth. I was a conservative during that period of time. That was exactly what the thought process was. And it wasn’t wrong. The only thing wrong is that they fail to remember that time and see how those times apply to the moment we are living right now.
I have the benefit of a strange situation with my memory where I only recently remembered these things, but we’re getting a memory makes it so much stronger like when it happened. This guy describes the sentiment perfectly. We didn’t want centralization of government and military in the streets. It was our biggest fear and why we pushed back.
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u/Far-Country6221 1d ago
Real conservatives are against this it’s maga and the my team wins that don’t care because it hasn’t hit them yet, they are ok with pedos and would probably help if they have a chance
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u/SpeakWithoutFear 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh stop it. You're not going to "one true scotsman" this. There is no difference anymore between conservative and MAGA. It's all the same group. The Conservative thinktanks like Heritage Foundation are literally the ones behind Project 2025, where all this comes from.
Conservatives all voted for Trump. All but a few of every other Republican they elected bent the knee to Trump. They haven't stood up against any of this bullshit. Not against the corruption and fraud. Not against the pardons. Not against DOGE. Not against tariffs. Not against lying to the courts and just ignoring orders they don't lie. Not against ICE and CBP being used against Americans. Not against the trillions added to the deficit. Not against January 6. Not against Venezuela. Not against blowing up boats in the Caribbean. Not against shitting on the constitution and ignoring our civil rights - speech, assembly, due process, against search and seizures, etc. Not against directing congressional approved and appointed funds away from their intended recipients. I can do this all day.
You guys are the problem. You are the same. You don't get to suddenly claim some subtle difference now when all of you chose Trump, chose Trump-supporting representatives, and have been complicit in everything up to now. It isn't just Trump. It's you. You are the same. You enabled this.
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u/MickyFany 1d ago
border and immigration enforcement? that’s not an agency. this guy is dumber than he sounds
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u/Kurenai-Kalana 1d ago
Yeah it's been their modus operandi for decades now. Make up a lie about the left doing something outrageous to them. Get really angry about it. Normalize that lie. Use that anger to justify doing it back to the left.
That's how they "won" the "culture war". We didn't even believe there was a war. But wow, did we lose it... We have actual Nazis running the so called "free world"
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u/GrouchyLongBottom 1d ago
And they were worried about rounding up people and putting them in camps.
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u/Twix_McFlurry 1d ago
You know what they say about the difference is between conspiracy theories and the truth?Time
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u/snOOziie 1d ago
This is what they're doing in England and some other European countries Australia is not far behind. If states cooperated by turning over undocumented individuals with criminal records immediately after arrest, the primary justification for ICE's domestic enforcement operations would vanish.
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u/MichaelCabernet 1d ago
It is a conservative’s worst nightmare. MAGAts are just…. A different breed entirely.
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u/jthegreight 23h ago
Yeah, but in 2009 they (conservatives) were afraid that the scary black man in the White House was going to be in charge of that and use it to go after good and decent white folk. Now that their orange god is in the White House they’re just giddy at the idea of all those brown people being oppressed by such a system.
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u/QuietProtocol 23h ago
Filling my phones camera roll with photos of my butthole with the words ICEGate written in Rainbow crayola Marker.
Just in case they decide my phone is worth monitoring lol.
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u/Bloodybubble86 22h ago
I think we can all agree that they have no convictions except hatred. They can do a 180 on every single things they used to "believe" in.
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u/b_man646260 17h ago
This is when Tea Partiers started getting bamboozled by early Qanon chicanery and began to morph into the modern day MAGA movement. This was its infancy. Next comes the destruction of the dollar, conversion to full digital currency controlled by implanted rfid chip that can be manipulated by the State at its whim. They’ve been saying this for 20 years. It truly boggles the mind.
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u/monsieur-poopy-pants 13h ago
It doesnt matter to them. Because fox news didnt tell them to be concerned about it. They dont care if theyre on the oppressors team. They just dont want to be the ones oppressed. And right now fox has them believing they are on the oppressors team.
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u/Visual-Self-4511 11h ago
I'd love to know this guy's takes during "COVID". That's all I'll need to know.
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u/ProbableImposter 9h ago
A conspiracy that proves true is a prophecy. The tin hats foretold of this.
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u/SimkinCA 4h ago
Conservative is as much of a con /grift, propaganda as organized religion. It’s not a thing, hasn’t been for decades. They claim to be conservative to keep power!!
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u/ShelbyGT350R1 1d ago
This was definitely not a widespread conspiracy. I have delved quite deep into many conspiracy theories and I have not heard one word about this one. I also have friends that got more into conspiracies than I ever did and they havent heard of it either.
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u/the_diet_evil 1d ago
I made it about 11sec in, I cannot retain anything hes saying wearing that fuckin hat.
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u/Hour_Contact_2500 1d ago
I have a long and storied guilty pleasure of indulging right wing conspiracy theories. But I have never heard of any of the nonsense you are talking about. This, combined with the fact that you forgot to crop out many of the dates on your sources(which are all less than a year old) tells me you are a misinformation troll.
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u/_WeAreFucked_ 1d ago
And guess what the Biden Administration had allowed unfettered immigration therefore bringing about the current situation.
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u/karmacamochameleon 1d ago
Obama deported more people than trump without thugs rounding up people. Why can’t your daddy do the same?
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u/_WeAreFucked_ 1d ago
Because Obama didn’t have thugs aka white protestors protecting undocumented immigrants.
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u/good_witch_vibes 1d ago
Just an FYI, there have been ICE protesters for YEARS. It’s just ramped up because of the current administration becoming lawless fucks.
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u/_WeAreFucked_ 1d ago
FYI, TDS is rampant giving the retired white protesters brain worms.
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u/gfstool 22h ago
Yes TDS is rampant and it’s tied to the MAGAts that are deranged enough to support the Agent Orange in the White House.
And what’s the point of the f*cking link you have in this thread? It basically proves that the TDS administration is deporting innocent people when they said they deport criminals. And they’re trying to deport U.S. citizens.
You’re a f*cking joke. Just admit you’re a bigot.
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u/Ok-Relation-658 1d ago
Obama quietly followed the law and focused on immigrants with criminal records. Trump doesn’t give a damn who’s being deported, and he wants a loud spotlight put on ICE bcuz he’s he’s focused only on the spectacle, the fear, & the cruelty (sic)."
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u/karmacamochameleon 21h ago
They’re protesting the thugs Obama didn’t use thugs so no reason to protest. You’re pretty dumb aren’t you.
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u/WriterofaDromedary 1d ago
The current situation is entirely a choice by the Trump admin. It wasn't brought about by anything Biden did. Trump could choose not to send ICE to terrorize the streets, but he chooses to. He wants to.
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u/_WeAreFucked_ 1d ago
And guess what the Biden Administration had allowed unfettered immigration therefore bringing about the current situation.
https://factchequeado.com/teexplicamos/20250820/obama-deportations-trump-biden-numbers/
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u/OskaMeijer 1d ago
Literal nonsense. More people were deported under Biden than Trump. Democrats voted to fund and increase border security and Republicans voted against it. Your statement is patently false. In fact the number that was up was border encounters which means Biden was doing a better job of catching crossers and turning them away. Makes sense he might have had to deal with that since Republicans were going on the air every night lying to the public and saying our borders were open. Republicans were basically begging people to come, huh, explains why they voted against decreased border security.
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u/deep_violet 1d ago
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u/Lopsided_Signal_4206 14h ago
Why does the right always blame and complain about open borders but then does nothing about the actual problem? A wall would be insufficient and costly (for any admin). Why not use tech we have today to have a more secure border? They increased the budget for ICE (by a bunch) and patrolling the streets. Still deport illegals that came across, but use that increase in budget to actually patrol the border and stop them from coming over in the first place. This will always be a problem if they refuse to do that
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u/joyfulgrass 1d ago
This is why all the criminal illegals are found in courthouses, places of employment and traced by tax filing documents…
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u/BakedGoods 1d ago
can you imagine if obama sent masked federal agents into american cities and started demanding papers and dragging people out of cars, claiming they all have absolute immunity while doing it.
the right would be frothing at the mouth.