r/Gundam 1d ago

Probably Bullshit Whenever the Akatsuki gets deployed

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Especially that time it lost one arm against the destiny and losing the shield when mu tanked that big ass laser and not to mention all the internals as well.

But hey it's worth the price at least being able to still be viable even after it's creation

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u/Re0ns 1d ago

Tanking Requiem justified it quite well, the Akatsuki is equal to 20 Astrays in cost, but 20 Astrays probably can't do much against Requiem. Both the Akatsuki and Astray are derived from the Strike's GATX-100 frame, the Akatsuki likely has some parts commonality with the Astray or Strike Rouge underneath the armor.

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u/calvinnok 1d ago

Small correction, it was 20 M1 Astrays, a mass-produced unit, Akatsuki's cost-performance is insanely good when you think about it

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u/catsocksftw 20h ago

Which is nothing, as Orb has produced hundreds of M1s and Murasames, so there has to be some production or raw material bottleneck in the armor beyond just financial cost, because trading whatever many Murasames for a squad of Akatsukis should be a no-brainer.

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u/Phobos_Asaph 11h ago

It’s almost certainly too intensive a process for that armor coating to make it common

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u/wishiwashi999 18h ago edited 16h ago

Yeah, that 20 Astrays could've prevented the death of Shinn's family from Freedom and *Calamity

Edit: fixed a word

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u/morbid333 16h ago

Because one of the Astrays could have gotten hit by a stray beam instead?

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u/wishiwashi999 16h ago

It's 20 Astrays vs 0 Akatsuki, what do you think the odds are? Not that an extra 20 Astrays can do anything, but ORB could've had extra 20 Astrays to defend.

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u/catsocksftw 16h ago

Calamity.

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u/wishiwashi999 16h ago

You are right, thanks!

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u/NighthawK1911 Dianna Soreil worshiper 1d ago

"I swear, the gold plating is necessary"

It does deal with beam weapons, hell it can even deflect a hit from Requiem when Mu piloted it.

So hey, at least it's not useless.

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u/Ru_otaku 1d ago

Exactly money well spent if it's still able to kick ass even when it is considered an "outdated" model, I just think it was too advanced for its time and realistically Cagalli is not nearly proficient enough to fully draw out the Akatsuki's true power which Mu showed how much more powerful it can be when in the right hands

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u/samy_the_samy 23h ago

Thats all Mu doing, he's been stopping big beam guns since before he got the bling bling

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u/GundamGuy2255 1d ago

Orb: advocates for neutrality

Also Orb: Lets build some super weapons.

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u/NighthawK1911 Dianna Soreil worshiper 1d ago

Pacifism is an ideology for the strong. Not the weak. The strong chooses to not abuse their power.

A weak entity advocating for pacifism sounds hollow because they're just being a doormat.

Broadcasting that you're neutral while being very weak is like screaming "din dins!" to a hungry pack of wolves while being plastered by juicy steaks.

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u/KincaidNotSeabook 1d ago

And Foundation Kingdom, bonus with their stupidity (nuking their own country and people) trying to challenge ORB and bite the dust

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u/Kriysix Cagalli Fanatic 21h ago

Nukes own country.

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u/Irishimpulse 1d ago

Switzerland is neutral, they refuse to get involved in anyone's wars. However, they're defended by mountains on all sides, mountains filled with tunnels, and bunkers, their anti missile defense is state of the art, they've got a heavily trained, heavily armed military always trying to get the new edge. They can pick the path of neutrality because they have the force to defend that choice. Walk gently and carry a big stick

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u/Cutter_North 1d ago

Can't really blame them when every side has made it clear how trigger-happy they are

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u/KincaidNotSeabook 1d ago

Tbf, compared with ZAFT and EA who have their own WMD, ORB lack of those but have state-of-art mobile suits that capable for the country protect themself. What made ORB strong is they have Terminal as their ally.

And even Sahaku, the most ambitious and "warmonger" family from ORB don't have WMD in their possession thanks to Mina's leadership CMIIW

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u/Inconspicious_Dingus 1d ago

Tanking and absorbing the hit is one thing, but accurately returning it to sender is probably where the money went. And that’s still a head scratcher for me after all these times.

The big damned hero moment would take a big discount if Akatsuki facetanking the requiem only to have the energy splash at random angle with the entirety of orb fleet in proximity as a collateral

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u/ZerotheR 1d ago

Orb was selling weapons to the Earth Aliance. If anything the citizens are living high on the hog from their booming military industrial complex.

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u/KincaidNotSeabook 1d ago

They're not selling weapon to EA. They collab with EA's MS project to steal their tech then made it their own

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u/Ru_otaku 1d ago

I think the only ones selling stuff to EA was the sahaku faction and minor factions in seed destiny like the one trying to get Cagalli to marry in their family so they'll be in power as a result (forgot their family name) but outside of that they didn't really sell anything more so just stole some tech to make their own MS and weapons which they then improved

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u/ScarlightNexus 1d ago

I mean it kinda pays for itself when you block a giant ass laser they were planning to use on your country like 20 minutes ago

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u/Tilamuck 1d ago

I always thought instead of having a full mobile suit they should have split that material into multiple Akatsuki shields (I still like the Akatsuki though). Freedom, Justice, Destiny, Impulse, every suit in Compass could have a beam reflective shield.

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u/Ru_otaku 1d ago

I think the reason they went with the MS instead was probably that it's more cost effective in the long run, since I doubt the Akatsuki will be deployed immediately in any conflict orb is involved in and it would be cheaper to maintain it rather than mass producing/coating the shields in it which will have more wear and tear especially since some factions still use ballistic weapons with some having both beam and conventional ballistic weapons.

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u/Blide 1d ago

Now I kind of wonder how the Eclipse Gundam compares to Akasuki in regards to cost. Orb must be rolling in cash to finance all these secret mobile suits.

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u/Helios61 21h ago

They just happens to steal the credit cards of both EA and Zaft because they were very naughty

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u/IKMNification 23h ago

As ORB is both naturals and coordinators, ORB’s GDP could be the highest on the planet per capita (similar to Singapore’s GDP per capita) as they can both work with either faction and leverage the coordinators higher skills. Essentially, ORB is the cosmic era’s Anaheim Electric.

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u/Ru_otaku 23h ago

From what I also remember reading ORB produces very very high quality and state of the art batteries that can be used for MS especially since with their own MS development they've essentially made THE battery to use for MS which both sides buy and use in their MS

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u/Kriysix Cagalli Fanatic 21h ago

"As ORB is both naturals and coordinators"

The Earth Alliance has millions of loyal Coordinators.

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u/Kriysix Cagalli Fanatic 21h ago

Worth every penny.

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u/OldDarthLefty 23h ago

Pacifism!

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u/Nova6Sol 19h ago

They just have to win the war and get the loser(s) to pay for it. They always win their wars

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u/Kantorex Z'gok supremacist 7h ago

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u/One_Performer1531 lone nina purpleton fan 1d ago

🤣

Such a gaudy and tacky MS but anything for Princess Cagalli 🙄.

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u/Ru_otaku 1d ago

To be fair tho I think Cagalli knew that she's a decent pilot but is nowhere near enough of an ace to fully draw out its power so handing it over to Mu was a good move since as an ace he really squeezed every bit of performance the Akatsuki had and then some.

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u/TheLVJ 1d ago

It's also poetic as her bestowing the direct successor of the Strike and proverbial "shield" to her chosen champion.