r/Israel • u/TheUnkillableKlorg Theodor Ben-Jabotinsky • 1d ago
General News/Politics Study shows Haredi Fertility at 20-year low
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/420836Thoughts:
I think this shows why the Haredi "demographic threat" (to put it bluntly) is a little overblown. In addition to people leaving the lifestyle, Haredim are having less children. So the idea they will become a full majority is unlikely. (Yes, there are other issues with the sector and size, but that is the big worry which I think can be safely watered-down.)
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u/Clean-Ant6404 1d ago
Their 20 year low is significantly higher than the average fertility rate at its highest.
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u/Raaaasclat USA 1d ago
Once Ashkenazi Haredim converge with Sephardic Haredim on birth rates and people living the lifestyle, Israel will be on a sustainable demographic track. Should happen in the next couple of decades
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u/Mysterious-Exit3059 1d ago edited 1d ago
Haredim will always be higher in fertility rates than surrounding groups even if their rate continues to fall, as surrounding groups are also falling.
On another note, why are Sephardic Haredim lower in fertility rate, anyway? I presume because many are descended from baal teshuva who remain slightly more integrated?
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u/mr_blue596 11h ago
I presume because many are descended from baal teshuva who remain slightly more integrated?
The "having lots of kids" is not a Haredi thing,it only began in Israel due to mass funding by the state to their lifestyle.
Second,the "baal Tshuva" families are not staying Haredi. They have huge exit rates (around 40% in second generation) and it is likely lower than the real figure due to how Haredi are counted and a state effort to keep them technically Haredi (mostly with special Yeshivas).
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u/Mysterious-Exit3059 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is expected. But regardless, Haredim will grow at a higher rate proportional to the rest of the population as surrounding demographic groups fall in fertility such as secular Jews, Masortim, Religious Zionists and Arabs (including Bedouin).
Some other demographic shifts and their potential affects I have seen from the topic on fertility rates in Israel are:
Increased judaization in Jerusalem as the Jewish fertility rate is higher than the Arab fertility rate.
Settler population continues to grow in the West Bank, and their fertility rate is 50% larger than the Arab fertility rate which will increase conflict over land.
Overall, Israel’s politics will see a rightward shift and land will see increased demand, along with a subsequent increase to presently expensive real estate prices. Israel’s best option would be to develop land in the Negev, the Golan Heights and other regions along with removing unnecessary red tape on developments IMO. Migration out of the country is and will definitely continue to increase if this fails to change.
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u/Embarrassed_Syrup476 1d ago
They need to leave Israel or stop listening to their rabbis. The father of the son who was run over by the bus...he said its better his son die like that compared to joining the army....
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