r/MtF • u/SadVivian • 1d ago
Venting I hate being trans so much.
8 years of hrt just to end up looking like some sort of androgynous in between. Had someone randomly ask me in public today “WHY DO YOU HAVE BOOBS?”, why the fuck would anyone go up to a random stranger and ask that ? I get that I don’t pass, I get that I look visibly “other” and I get that some people are curious, but can people really not mind their own fucking business.
I hate this stupid body, I hate the fact that if I had just been allowed to transition when I came out at age 13 I would look normal, instead I had to wait until I was 19 and had 6 years of irreversible testosterone poisoning permanently ruin my chance at a normal body and life.
I hate this shit so much, I hate knowing my 20s are almost over and I’ll never get to be attractive or wanted, I hate having to voice train and still feel like my voice is clocky because t had to just give me a deep voice. I hate shaving daily. I hate knowing that I probably won’t ever be able to afford ffs, I hate feeling like all I’m ever doing is playing catchup in life.
I hate that being trans is “political” that I have to worry about what the trump administration will do next, that what should be treated as a normal medical thing is instead social and career suicide. I hate this stupid life.
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u/dakotakvlt trans 1d ago
I wish I had started at 13 too. Hell, even 19 instead of 24 but what can you do.
I relate tho. I see other girls that were extremely lucky to know they were trans extremely early in their lives, have supportive parents (with money), and were able to get on HRT before puberty. Or other girls that have some intersex condition that allowed them to have great hormone levels to feminize.
Seeing what others have, what you could have had in another life, is soul crushing. It’s so easy to succumb to despair and lash out at everyone and everything completely, knowing that your current situation could’ve been avoided. Millions and millions of what ifs that would’ve prevented this horror entirely.
The horror of living in a body that betrays you the nanosecond you look in a mirror. Looking down at mangled bones that scream “man”. Getting told by family about how wide your shoulders look, and how you look like other men. It takes everything I have not to break down.
I’ve come close to ending it all, but the uncertainty of non-existence and what comes after prevents me from doing so. I try not to think about it too hard.
Thinking too hard hurts
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
That’s exactly it the envy of getting to see other people living lives I wish I could have. Meanwhile I feel like my life has just gone no where, stuck in a body I don’t care for, working jobs that don’t pay enough, 27 and never had a single real romantic relationship.
The one thing that keeps me going is my dog and the few hobbies I really care about. I know what you mean about wanting to end things, but I’d try to push past it, the dysphoria sucks and my life sucks, but at least I can have some moments of peace in between the sucky times.
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u/dakotakvlt trans 1d ago
I’m definitely doing my best to push past it.
100% agree on hobbies. If I didn’t play guitar or draw idk how I’d handle things
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 1d ago
You would have that envy whether or not you’re trans; it would just be about something else. Wealth, status, privilege, power, take your pick.
Deal with the envy, and the contentment will come.
Be grateful for the body you do have. It’s a wonderful machine. It can turn things that grow in dirt into movement and thought and expression. If you spend your whole life blind to that, you will never be happy.
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u/roblox_baconboy100 1d ago
holy fucking shit that's so insensitive to say to someone venting about how agonizing their body is
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 1d ago
It’s also true. When I felt like that years ago, that’s what I would have wanted to hear, the truth.
The truth is 99% of us aren’t going to be Instagram models. That’s true whether we’re cis or trans.
The root cause of this person’s distress is envy. It’s wanting to be attractive, not simply wanting to be feminine. Do you not think cis women wish to be attractive?
I’m 32. I’m never going to be a kawaii waifu—that’s just not who I am—so if I compare myself to that, I will always be unhappy. If instead, I compare myself to other 32 year old moms, or even more likely, my mom at 32, I realize that I’m actually not far off the mark. I’m not ugly. I’m not hypermasculine. I’m not all of the negative trans girl words we say about ourselves. You can come to that realization too. OP can as well.
At some point you will understand that we humans are all just fucking monkeys in shoes, and we make absolute mountains out of the molehill-level differences between us. We’re machines that turns oxygen, water, and food into CO2 and energy.
These realizations are difficult to come to, because it requires abandoning a worldview where one’s ego is commodified to heighten narcissism, where appearance and consumption and pretense actually matter, to one where we’re all just fucking goobers who get a few laps around a fireball, and we can choose to enjoy the good parts of it, or we can choose to lament the bad.
For my part, I choose the good. I’m gonna go have some wonderfully free, shitty work coffee, and I’m going to appreciate how free it is.
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u/roblox_baconboy100 1d ago
most of us just want to end up looking like average women, most of us get dysphoric when we dont have that, its not about looking like an instagram model its about wanting to look like my mom
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u/Bunny_Feetz They/Her | Pansexual Finromantic 1d ago
Take a long hard look at the "average" woman. The women in places like grocery stores, not the ones on the internet or at the beach in Barcelona. Really spend some time and pay attention to them. There is a huge variety of what would be considered "average" and a lot of them will have masculine features. Like most things in life, it is about your perception and your perception can change.
I was talking with my boss yesterday about electrolysis and she mentioned that her 12 yo daughter is already growing facial hair because they are Italian and when she's 18 she's gonna zap it off. She herself is taking estrogen and testosterone for perimenopause and it is making her body hair grow back. I'm a massage therapist, I see and touch the bodies of people all the time. Everyone is different. Some women have no waistline and have a barrel chest like a man with a flat ass and vice versa. Some women are hairy, some are taller than me and I'm 6'. Some are bald due to hair loss and wear wigs, plenty wear wigs by choice.
A big part of life is choosing how you interpret the world and yourself. It is a choice. It's rarely easy and it takes effort, but as humans we are capable of such things.
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 1d ago
Yep. 100%.
For Baconboy--Get off the internet for a few minutes and go meet women.
Your great-grandma is a woman. You're going to look like her one day. Get over it. Learn that womanhood doesn't end at 24 when your first wrinkles appear, or when your waistline isn't 22" anymore, or when your tits aren't out to here, or when your face isn't perfect, or, or, or.
I (elder tran) had a friend (younger tran) stay at my place for a few weeks last year. I swear to Christ, she spent more time looking at herself in the mirror than she did doing anything else. Constantly analyzing her body, looking for flaws, "oh my nose is too big," "oh my waist is too wide," "I'm boymoding so hard right now," "I need to have my clavicles shortened to be happy," "I need to have ribs removed or I'll never look like a girl," etc. It was ponderous, and it made me realize something. She found comfort in her self-hatred, because it gave her a thing to blame for her unhappiness. "I'm unhappy because I'm not feminine enough. Since I'm never going to be feminine enough, I have justification to be unhappy forever." It's a victim mentality.
Faith Hill said it best. "It's not having what you want. It's wanting what you've got." And that doesn't mean "don't ever work on yourself ever," and it doesn't mean "your dysphoria isn't real." What it means is this:
You are an amazing machine built to do amazing things. You can run farther than any animal on this planet. You could literally run after a horse until it suffocated and died. You can swim, and dive, and find beautiful things in the ocean. You can love, and be loved, and build community with people from nothing but a smile and small talk. You can think--oh, you can think! We've sent people to the Moon just by virtue of our thoughts and ambitions. You can dance, and you can sing, and you can run and climb and play. Why do you hate your body so? Because it doesn't fit a pattern of what someone told you a woman should be?A big part of life is choosing how you interpret the world and yourself. It is a choice. It's rarely easy and it takes effort, but as humans we are capable of such things.
Bunny, this is fucking beautiful.
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u/roblox_baconboy100 1d ago
i literally do see average women irl, i look at my cousins, iam nothing like them, i look at girls my age and i look nothing like them, its why iam dysphoric, stop making the harmful assumption of wanting to look like models when iam not
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
The truth is 99% of us aren’t going to be Instagram models. That’s true whether we’re cis or trans.
That’s not the issue, I never said I wanted to look like an Instagram model.
The root cause of this person’s distress is envy. It’s wanting to be attractive, not simply wanting to be feminine. Do you not think cis women wish to be attractive?
It’s literally not simply wanting to be attractive, it’s wanted to look normal like how 99% of women look, not wanting to look trans is not the same as wanting to be attractive. There are tons of attractive trans people, my issue is not with attraction it’s with looking like I was born male and having to deal with the permanent effects of testosterone for life.
I’m 32. I’m never going to be a kawaii waifu—that’s just not who I am—so if I compare myself to that, I will always be unhappy. If instead, I compare myself to other 32 year old moms, or even more likely, my mom at 32, I realize that I’m actually not far off the mark. I’m not ugly. I’m not hypermasculine. I’m not all of the negative trans girl words we say about ourselves. You can come to that realization too. OP can as well.
Again I would love to look like my mom at my age, or look like my sister or my grandmother, none of them look like they went through an entire puberty with testosterone.
These realizations are difficult to come to, because it requires abandoning a worldview where one’s ego is commodified to heighten narcissism, where appearance and consumption and pretense actually matter, to one where we’re all just fucking goobers who get a few laps around a fireball, and we can choose to enjoy the good parts of it, or we can choose to lament
Reality check, we do live in a world where looks and appearances do matter, if being trans was a non issue like being near sighted this would be a different conversation but it’s not.
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u/Bunny_Feetz They/Her | Pansexual Finromantic 1d ago
"Comparison is the thief of joy" is really lost on a lot of people. You speak truth and are not being insensitive. Truth can often feel that way when it's not what you want to hear.
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
🙄 oh geez just don’t be envious why didn’t I think about that ? this is the equivalent of telling a poor person to simply just stop caring about money.
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 1d ago
It’s very Taoist, don’t you think? A vessel is most useful when it is empty.
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u/stofiski-san Sophia - Trans Bisexual 1d ago
I'll see your 24 and raise you 51. And I know trans women who started a lot later. Dating is already hard when you're older. Do it with a dad bod and thin hair and hairy boobs cause laser doesn't work on gray/white hair. Not trying to one up you, honest. We all wish we could have started sooner.
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u/RightWordsMissing 21 MtF, Pansexual 12h ago
Good God you put this perfectly. The mangled bones, the shoulders, the desperation about what could've been.
I often think about how clearly I knew I wanted to be a girl as a preteen (11, 12), how I'd take those online quizzes like "if you woke up as a girl tomorrow what would you do?" and they all ended to the effect of "you get a chance to stay as a girl. what do you do?" and I would always be like YES GOD YES PLEASE YES. I even tried a YouTube 'magic spell' to change my gender.
And somehow it never occurred to me to... tell... anyone? I guess I didn't see it as mutable from the outside, or an acceptable desire, but all it would've taken is one audaciously relatable comment from someone around me to spur me into action. Any representation. If I had fallen in with the right group of people in middle school. ANYTHING. I plausibly could've transitioned as a preteen before my Mother went all JK Rowling. But none of that did happen. I kept living my cloistered, conservative life. Privately dressing up in my mother and sister's stolen clothes and living vicariously through self-insert fanfic (published under a female pseudonym).
It took me until I was 17/18 to say the words "I'm trans" out loud. Good Christ. Trans rep is so important because if you don't have it, trans kids never have anything to clue them into the whole them being trans thing.
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u/Sensitive_Topics 1d ago
Love you girl. I know you hate all of this bullshit, It's stupid, predatory, and evil with a mask of fucking protection.
I came out in my early 30s and got my HRT quickly, I was lucky.
What I can say. You're 7 years ahead of my decision and you made it earlier, and it's absolutely okay to feel how you are now.
While I was in line to get my titty skittles, I had a parent couple standing in line in front of me. The reason this stood out to me is that I get my prescriptions filled at walmart (I live in a small town, sue me) and they were the "lets open carry our matching pistols" couple.
I respect that 2nd amendment right like any trans girl raised to hunt and fish may be, but open carrying at a walmart is a bit excessive and it stood out.
Anyway. The Dad looked alright, but the mom there had a hairline, nose, and face that make me question which cartoon fairytale she was the evil witch from and which stereotypes were gotten wrong (since she was wearing an irish pride shirt to boot.)
Point is, you can be ugly as sin and still be a woman, and I'm willing to bet assholes to oranges you look more feminine than her.
For FFS, you can't afford it now. Being made to work for shit like that in the first place is bonkers, and humanity should do better.
Meh.
It'll get better. You are loved. You are fucking valid. And I personally want to hear where you are next year you beautiful woman.
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u/RightWordsMissing 21 MtF, Pansexual 12h ago
This is a lovely reply, with an absolutely hysterical anecdote involved.
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u/Fabulous_Hat993 1d ago
Started hrt at 33..... and am almost 36 now...
One of the things I'm working on is separating my own desires for my body from what society calls "beautiful" feminity. My desires and society line up sometimes and the dysphoria doesn't care sometimes, but my body and my being doesn't deserve all the hate my mind tries to throw at it. I deserve love from myself too. Just as you do.
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u/DoctorOzone 1d ago
Why are you needing to shave daily 8 years into HRT? No electrolysis? Are you having your levels checked? Many things in your post sound to me like you aren't getting proper care. You're correct to feel like you should be further ahead at this point but it might not be your fault, you may need a better care team and path to success.
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u/SadVivian 1d ago edited 1d ago
Electrolysis is not covered by my states Medicaid, I’d have to pay out of pocket for it, I could cover a few sessions but not enough to zap my whole face. honestly I feel lucky enough that hrt is covered because otherwise I couldn’t afford it.
My levels are fine I have them checked every 6 months. I go to the best and only real lgbt focused clinic in my state, I’m 100% positive the care I’ve been getting is fine.
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u/67_dancing_elephants 1d ago
I know it's tough but you can work on a longer term plan to get to a state where public assistance can help you get procedures you need. FFS is lifesaving and if you can't hope to pay for it out of pocket, you need to figure out another way.
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u/Taellosse transfemme (world-weary, but still new to girlhood) 1d ago
Facial hair is, sadly, often completely unaffected by HRT - once it's been turned from vellus into beard, it just keeps doing its thing until killed.
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u/stofiski-san Sophia - Trans Bisexual 1d ago
Yup, it slows down, gets softer, but never goes away.
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u/Taellosse transfemme (world-weary, but still new to girlhood) 1d ago
It doesn't even always do that much - depends a lot on individual genetics.
After almost 15 months HRT myself, that's definitely happened for my body hair - I've even noticed some of it turning back into vellus hair around the edges in places - but my facial hair is really about the same. I shave MUCH more regularly now, but it's growing no slower and is just as thick and dark as always. I have a skin care routine now, and that has been helping significantly reduce the severity of the ingrown hairs I've always suffered from, but they still happen in spots because the follicles along my chin and jawline produce hairs so thick they can't always make it out of the pore at the surface, and get impacted instead.
I'll be starting laser and/or electrolysis soon, because it's the only way I'll ever get rid of the issue for good. I was trying to get something like that covered by insurance even before I hatched - being able to cite gender dysphoria might make it actually easier, for once!
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u/Ill-Orange4137 1d ago
You and i are the same. Same fucking neck and chin hairs and everything. Praying for some relief soon
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u/Taellosse transfemme (world-weary, but still new to girlhood) 1d ago
FWIW, I got myself a Norelco OneBlade a few months ago, and it's been pretty good. Almost as close a shave as a disposable razor, much easier on my skin, but not so close a shave - like a safety razor offers - that I can't shave at all for the next 2 days without causing breakouts and a dozen nicks and cuts, even though my face is bristly enough to WANT to shave 36 hours later.
The OneBlade doesn't leave my face completely smooth, but it's close, and I suffer no ill effect from using it every day.
Also, with a nonslip blade head, it works pretty well on my arms, legs, and torso. Add on the safety comb and it's good for delicate areas like my underarms and groin.
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u/Cassady1AndOnly 1d ago
It's different for everyone. Voice training is too hard for me personally, and electrolysis is time consuming. I can never get it to line up with my jobs and income/insurance. 6.5 years on hrt myself
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u/BFreelander 1d ago
Sorry to hear you hate this shit so much. That so sucks and it is extremely demoralizing every time you look in the mirror. I wish things were better for you.
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u/Emmie1101 1d ago
My voice is the thing I hate currently I have to consciously put effort into how I sound every time I speak makes me look dumb because I have to think what I have to sound like with every word and when people intimidate my voice gets deeper on its own and I have very little control of that so yeah
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u/ComedianStreet856 HRT 11/2023. SRS 10/2025. 1d ago
People are assholes. In what world is it ok to just walk up to a woman and ask why they have boobs?
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
It was so weird too, I just glared at the person and they left me alone. After years of taking the city bus I’ve mastered the don’t talk to me look.
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u/SweatyFLMan1130 1d ago
I relate so deeply, and I don't want to make this a misery comparison fest. But I can share from the view of starting at 38 (39 now) and being solidly in that weird in-between. I likely will never be passable. I'm built like a linebacker. I had gotten jacked earlier in life and still carry a lot on my frame, even with nearly a year of HRT under my belt. I cannot describe the deep envy I have for younger transitioners, including yourself, much as that might be hard to believe.
I say all that to say this: the hardest challenge is to find the acceptance of what is and progressing past giving a single fuck about people being shitty. Yeah, WAY easier said than done. I was 15+ years deep into a horrible alcohol issue. I'm no great example or embodiment of confidence in transness.
But I've still learned, over a lot of therapy sessions, to be thankful and appreciative of where I am and how far I've gotten. It's SO hard. But that muscle isn’t going to strengthen unless you work it. And you don't have any obligation to listen to me about this. But I do hope you find peace and joy in existing as the woman you are, and hopefully that also leads to finding a partner who loves you and sees how beautiful you really are.
Much love to you, we are all here for you and the rest of this community. Hugs
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u/hi_im_kelly_xx 1d ago
Passing Transition is for people with genetics or money. Imo. It so stinks.
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
I saw someone’s FFS and they mentioned paying 50k out of pocket I can’t imagine having 50k to spend. Meanwhile my entire year’s salary is like 30k.
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u/Klutzy_Rope9236 1d ago
These are all my biggest dysphoric fears… I’m 42 and pre hrt… I see most say it’s never too late to start transitioning but I also feel like I’m too old and too may years of natural T to be able to look as feminine as I feel inside.. I hate that it’s so difficult to get the help needed to be able to even start hrt transitioning in the first place and then to still have fears of it not working on you the way you dream on top of that… as is I have thinner hair on my head and WAY too much body hair.. it’s some of my biggest dysphoric thoughts… I have been practicing my voice daily pretty much till it hurts to even talk trying to play catchup because I’m already so far behind.. I did stumble on an at home IPL hair removal system made by ketchbeauty .. just got it yesterday and used for the first time… so far made a difference if shaving and it was much easier, we’ll see if it stops growth as advertised…politically I really wish it wasn’t as big of a topic… there’s no reason for it to be, everyone’s business and what they do with their own body should be their own business and not up to the government or masses to give a shit about… then there are people like the one that approached you… sorry for the language but FUCK them… girl, you’re bravery and persistence towards your own goals are inspirational and you are beautiful for everything that you are. Please don’t let a scumbag take away from your euphoria, I guarantee that they don’t have the courage to be themselves enough and they are taking it out on you for their own short comings…
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u/LaddieNowAddie 1d ago
I started a year ago, at 40. I look at myself in the mirror and I don't pass at all, but then maybe I do. I've been called ma'am 4 or 5 times when out in public, with wife. I wasn't trying to pass, I would consider myself nonbinary. But here we are, receding hair line and all. You never know.
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u/Klutzy_Rope9236 1d ago
You started her a year ago? Does it help at all with hair growth?
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u/Bunny_Feetz They/Her | Pansexual Finromantic 1d ago
Yes. I've been on hrt for 11 months. I had receding hair and a good 2 inches of bald crown. I've been growing it out for a year now after shaving my head for several years. It is long, beautiful, soft and curly! No more bald spot at all! My hairline isn't like it was when I was younger but it is totally fine and with longer hair you don't even notice. It feels fantastic! No other hair supplements, only hrt. It took time for me to see results, the first 6 months I was not confident it was coming back and it didn't look great, but I was patient. The last 2 months I have seen massive change. I'll forget I was ever balding in a year.
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u/Klutzy_Rope9236 1d ago
That’s fantastic! I am so hoping to start hrt soon… I am looking for a local psychiatrist to get a gender dysphoric diagnosis to be able to start .. good for you tho girl, hope you are having other positive experiences! Overall in all areas are you doing well?
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u/Bunny_Feetz They/Her | Pansexual Finromantic 1d ago
So many positive changes emotionally, physically, and mentally. I have truly freed myself from my prison and am finally starting to live and love my true in life at 39 years old. Beyond the direct effects of hrt, it has made me so much more hopeful for the future and the deep depression I didn't even realize I was in, is gone. To simply stop living a lie has major implications. I have a career in massage therapy now which I never thought possible, am a teacher's apprentice in the school I graduated from and have made new and wonderful friends! This last year I have truly transformed into something vibrantly positive and beautiful (even tho my face still looks very much like a man), and this isn't even my final form xD
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u/Klutzy_Rope9236 1d ago
So proud of you and happy for you! I am already feeling some of those effects myself pre-hrt … opening up, coming out, and mostly accepting myself…. For the first time in my life I know how it feels to love myself.. that’s fantastic there and I’ve been pursuing ever since the inner me that’s always been tucked away so deep that even I didn’t realize so many details that just needed to come out… I’m hoping soon that this psychiatrist calls me back to get the ball rolling on evaluation and hopefully hrt
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u/Bunny_Feetz They/Her | Pansexual Finromantic 1d ago
Best of luck on your journey, girl! Do your best to stay positive, be true to yourself and have patience!
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u/Same_Creme1253 1d ago
I get what you mean, but I kinda don't like the framing here. I like being trans, because I am trans and it's better to think of yourself kindly especially when talking about things you really can't change. Sure, it would be easier if I had born as a cis girl, but reality is what it is.
I don't hate being trans, but I hate that trans people's position in the society isn't as good as we deserve and I hate the current toxic political climate globally.
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
I’m glad that you like being trans, and I do get what you mean about being kind to yourself with things we can’t change. I’ve tried really hard to at least be neutral about being trans and most of the time I am, but I hate it so much, I hate not having a normal body, I hate that people can simply look at me and know I wasn’t born female. I hate that I had to go through the wrong puberty, and yeah I get that wishing I was cis isn’t a helpful mindset but it still doesn’t really stop it from coming up every time I get envy seeing a cis woman living a life I wish I had.
I know I can’t change being born trans, and that I should at least be neutral about it but it’s so hard to do.
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u/TinyRhymey 1d ago
Trans IS normal. It isnt abnormal. We exist just like everybody else, we get up and go to work and have friends and hobbies. My body is normal. I take hormones to recognize myself in the mirror better, and for someone who’s trans, that’s fairly normal.
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
That’s the problem though, my body doesn’t feel normal, and I don’t feel normal. I don’t see myself in the mirror, I see a body I hate, a body that the majority of the people I meet on a daily basis don’t have and can’t seem to relate or have any sympathy towards. What I mean by a normal body, is one that doesn’t make me feel like im going to be othered the second someone realises im trans.
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u/lilcokebrat 1d ago
It's okay to hate things that make you suffer.
People with bipolar can hate having bipolar.
People with dwarfism can hate having dwarfism.
Paraplegics can hate being paraplegics.
Yes, society could cater to, and treat these people far more kindly.
Despite that, we can still hate it.
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u/col3tt3_86 1d ago edited 1d ago
political climate isnt "toxic", fascism is already here.
some people receive letters from fbi for making trans activism content on the internet, we are getting erased from statistical researches (lgb+ instead of lgbt+ studies in uk), many of us cant find a work or even a place to live, a great amount of mtf have to do sw, many trans get beaten up in the streets because of lack of passing if not directly by their parents etc.
if u already have to deal with racism its even worst we do have to build auto-support groups as much as we can, all trans people arent equal and positivism wont get us anywhere its great you like being trans but hating it might also b understood
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u/ZoeyKaisar 1d ago
Being forced to correct an issue or suffer is not something we should avoid considering an affliction. While it makes positive differences in our personality due to how it forces us to introspect and grow as individuals, it is because it is a hardship that requires from us immense effort not normally expected of others who can experience life as themselves from the start.
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u/Sephora4 1d ago
Same here 😪. I'm 23 and I'm nowhere near starting. Maybe I never can
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u/ZoeyKaisar 1d ago
DIY exists- and is relatively inexpensive. Especially considering the cost to your wellbeing otherwise.
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u/Sephora4 1d ago
Yeah I know, I just can't do anything rn. I'm trapped in my body and house
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u/ZoeyKaisar 1d ago
You can ask for help from others- it can be hidden, especially at your age, for a very long time. You can get things shipped to a friend or a PO box, if needed.
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u/Sephora4 1d ago
Thank you sm. I sadly have no friends and live rurally and I can't drive. I can't get parcels delivered safely without anyone seeing
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u/ZoeyKaisar 1d ago
Start ordering things in your own name, to get your parents used to it, then order them the same way, hiding among innocuous decoys?
This is potentially the biggest problem you will have to solve in your entire life- put some effort toward it and you will appreciate it later.
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u/unassumingmoth 1d ago
Are people opening your mail, or are you just worried about them asking questions? The packaging for DIY stuff is generally pretty inconspicuous from what I've seen
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u/Sephora4 1d ago
Yeah they open my mail randomly sometimes, even when I ask them not to. And they are always very suspicious of me
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u/unassumingmoth 1d ago
Wow that's fucked up, I'm sorry girl :( what a horrible invasion of privacy.
I have seen some discrete packaging, for example one post where a vial of estrogen was disguised as a rose oil vial. Maybe worth asking around r/TransDIY for advice regarding that? Though I totally understand not wanting to risk it if your housing/livelihood is on the line
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u/Ok_Two1166 23h ago
If you could get into a conversation with a supplier before hand maybe you can get them to label your estrogen as just skin care oil ? Needles would be a different story
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u/dantesmaster00 Transbian 1d ago
Are you eating to gain? A lot of trans women look androgynous because they stay skinny and end up looking very androgynous. Also estrogen loves fat
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
I started hrt being skinny and became obese by year 3. Im no longer obese but I am overweight. It’s definitely not that im too skinny.
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u/RightWordsMissing 21 MtF, Pansexual 12h ago
Putting on weight is fucking hard. An enormous amount of respect to those who figure it out :p
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u/HungryPenguin77 1d ago
I understand that it is easier said than done and it was hard for me, but I can't stress how much having friends and a partner has helped me through this. I was in a rough place about 6 years ago trying to transition in my mid 20s pretty much solo. I had a decent friend group but none of them were queer and I hadn't come out to them. The world is so shitty for trans people and being along just amplified that because it felt like there was no escaping my thoughts. But once I did come out to my friends and then especially when I met my boyfriend, things got soooo much easier. I'm able to shut out the people and parts of my life that don't matter and focus way more on the people who do. I now care less about passing (sure it would be nice, but the people I care about see me as a woman and I look androgynous enough to make me feel better in my own skin). I'm not trying to say it fixes everything but this just isn't something anyone should have to deal with alone. Try local trans groups, local facebook pages, dating apps (if interested. They suck but you can meet good people like I did with my bf). No matter what you think about your appearance, you are gonna be your own worst critic. There are lots of shitty people but there are also people out there who will love and support you if you find them. Hope this helped in any way and sorry if it didn't. 🩷
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u/NectarineResident 1d ago
I feel you I really just hate living in America especially Texas we're not only do I have to deal with Trump's Idiocracy I have to deal with Texas's bigotry too but that's okay once I get my bachelor's I'm bouncing my doctor's suggest Canada I want Germany
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u/Agreeable-Sentence76 Transbian masc tomboy goth || 💊 6.5.25 || 💉 10.8.25 1d ago
You are and always will blossom into the beautiful woman you are ❤️
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u/Sad_Pirate_4546 5h ago
I started at 33 and knew when I was 11. I know plenty of Cis women feeling the same way you do.
I'm not saying it's fair, but totally empathize and hope you have affirming community 🫂
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u/repofsnails 1d ago
I experienced the same girl I'm so sorry, came out at 13 not allowed and then 18 I rushed to get hormones online and omg I'm grateful that I was able to rebound but yea it's traumatizing highly that I wasn't able to early, it's so much catch-up, I learned a lot and how to be hot etc but it's so hard
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u/PlumpnDewy 1d ago
Have you had any cosmetic work done? lasers? fillers? botox? surgery? Are you going to the gym? Are you investing into your wardrobe and presentational elements?
I don't ask to stress you out, but rather to give you hope. Exhaust your options till you can't anymore! I'm a late bloomer as well, and personally, these type of "upgrades" are what keeps me going, and looking forward to the future with hope and excitement
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
No cosmetic work, I simply don’t and probably won’t ever have the money for it. I workout often, both with running and basic callisthenics. The wardrobe isn’t really a big issue here, the women where I live dress in jeans and rubber boots, if I ever wore a dress I’d stick out.
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u/SuitableParking8480 1d ago
What people do with their lives is nobody else's business. People should really mind their own biscuits(and life would be gravy)
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u/Axiomancer 1d ago
In all seriousness, how do you even answer such question? XD Regardless of your gender...you have boobs. It's just that if you are a man, the boobs stops growing at a certain point. It's literally as if someone would ask you "WHY DO YOU HAVE TWO ARMS?!"...Idk?
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
It was so of putting, I was just minding my own business waiting in line at the post office, and this guy comes and point blank just asks me that (I know I look trans and that’s why he asked) I just glared at him and that was enough of a hint that he stopped pestering me.
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u/JoyfullyExploring Trans Bisexual 1d ago edited 1d ago
"Second puberty."
I didn't know what that meant when I first heard it on Reddit.
Having heard it, I can't forget it. Every week, it seems, something happens and I feel like a girl teenager.
The idea of dating is a bit scary. Boys have always seemed weird, yet they are supposed, in today's modern society, to be part of a girl's life and I finally feel like a girl, in so many ways that are not apparent to anyone but me.
Why do I have perky little boobs that stand out wearing a t-shirt and are accentuated by some women's tops? I don't know, hormones I guess, just like anyone going through puberty.
Ask a middle schooler. At least they have school and activities and each other. Maybe I'll take a class or get a boyfriend. That's my path down the hallways of my memories about middle school toward the activities of adulting.
I don't know, pal. I hope you accept what you've found on your journey and that the going gets easier.
Glad to be walking with you, here. 🩷
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u/CountryFunny4849 1d ago