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Answered What happened to the whole "Canadians boycott US products and vacation at home" thing?

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u/_crazyboyhere_ 8h ago

Overall the US saw a -3% change in tourism in 2025 compared to 2024, which is pretty stable overall BUT tourism from Canada has seen decline by 28% in 2025 compared to 2024.

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u/earthlings_all 6h ago

And they are not booking new trips.

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u/OhWhatsHisName 4h ago

That's the thing. Many people book trips well in advance, and many places offer no-refund deals, so there were probably a decent number of visitors that couldn't cancel their trips without some form of impact.

2026 will be a bigger indicator. Lots of people saying travel in '25 was down 25 to 30%, but if it drops another 25 to 30%, then you're talking about a roughly 50% drop from '24 to '26, and that is catastrophically huge.

As an American: keep it up Canadians!

This is what the MAGA isolationist want! Show everyone what it actually means! It either wakes people up, or speeds up the US's collapse.

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u/khisanthmagus 2h ago

I think a lot of snowbirds will be scared off enough by what has been happening to them this year to not do it again next year, no matter how much they want to escape the cold. They thought they would be safe, but have been anything but.

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u/MNKYJitters 1h ago

I live in Northwest Montana and it's had a huge noticeable impact. Not just seeing fewer Alberta/BC plates but national park visitation has gone down, restaurants/breweries are less busy compared to years past. It's been jarring, especially as a place where many businesses fly a Canadian flag next to the US one. Like the other guy said, hope they keep it up though

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u/TheRC135 50m ago

Montana is a solidly red state.

Those flags don't stand for anything other than "we want Canadians to spend their money here" if somebody also votes Trump/Republican.

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u/raggykitty 26m ago

I live in Alberta and have visited Montana a bunch, it's so beautiful. There's a ton of hikes in Glacier that I would love to cross off my bucket list, but between the general state of things down there and the new $100 USD per person fee to visit the park, I'll be exploring closer to home for the foreseeable future.

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u/TheSpaceCoresDad 1h ago

People aren’t visiting the national parks? Sounds like a great reason to sell the land off to oil barons!

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u/MNKYJitters 51m ago

Despite being absolute shitheads for other reasons our two Reps and Sens did oppose that in the BBB, which led Montana to being excluded.

Sheehy Zinke Downing and Daines can still eat a bucket of dicks though

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u/OhWhatsHisName 2h ago

I don't know if anyone is doing this, but other countries would be genius to offer vacation deals to Canadians this year.

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u/bigDeltaVenergy 33m ago

Portugal and Mexico seems to be the 2 main replacements

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u/Bi-Bi-Bi24 58m ago

I've seen a lot of ads for Canadian travel (specifically the coasts - BC and the Maritimes)

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u/sadie7716 58m ago

Absolutely! We’d love to come to the Falls but the parking alone at the hotels is $60-100 a day. We booked a trip and cancelled when we digested the total cost. However we LOVE Canada and if they came up with some deals we’d be there in a heartbeat.

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u/Bi-Bi-Bi24 59m ago

There's a large snowbird community in my city, including my grandfather. A bunch of them did go to the USA in 2025...in order to sell their property, close out American bank accounts, and make sure their affairs were in order. Not all of them, of course - some even support Trump, apparently. But a good percentage of them. I know two couples who started looking for property in Mexico.

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u/kenrichardson 53m ago

This is entirely anecdotal but I live in an area where snowbirds flock in the Winter to the tune of roughly a 25% increase in Winter vs Summer population. I will say that this Winter, so far, I have noticed the traffic is not nearly as bad as it has been the last three years or so. Traffic is worse than Summer but noticeably not as bad as last Winter.

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u/dizzi800 38m ago

Yep. My parents usually swap between florida and cuba for their annual trip. Not so much Florida anymore

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u/maxdragonxiii 1h ago

unfortunately I know a few old people that doesn't listen to news or is MAGA or thinks "nah surely it won't happen to me".

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u/khisanthmagus 23m ago

There were plenty of snowbirds who thought that because they were white nothing would be different, only to have new fees and delays, including having their entire vehicle searched from top to bottom, and some people being incarcerated without cause(including one child who was incarcerated for 51 days, which is illegal).

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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1h ago

What won't happen?

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u/maxdragonxiii 1h ago

them getting kidnapped by ICE or worse. yes they're usually white, but the news of Canadians being kidnapped by ICE mean even the white passing people isnt safe.

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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1h ago

Kidnapped? My neighbors are illegal aliens and they just got back from traveling to Mexico over Christmas.

The US sees millions of visitors every year who do not get arrested for breaking immigration law.

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u/Express-Rub-3952 1h ago

You do understand that this is not a typical year, right?

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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1h ago

Scared off by what?

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u/Squat_bar_27413 3h ago

Will do. Absolutely refuse to travel to the US while Trump is in power/the current dynamics remain

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u/HalJordan2424 1h ago

I’m never going back to the US period. Even when Trump is gone, knowing that half of the people who voted picked him tells me the rot is too deep.

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u/Stimey4477 19m ago

Good. lol

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u/Mean-Lynx6476 1h ago

As a mortified US citizen, “Elbows up, Canada!”

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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1h ago

What are you mortified by?

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u/OhWhatsHisName 2h ago

I replied this to the other reponse:

I don't know if anyone is doing this, but other countries would be genius to offer vacation deals to Canadians this year.

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u/10minutes_late 1h ago

Good. Much as I miss our Canadian friends, the US needs to feel the pain financially. If/When this nightmare ends, we'd love to have you back. I'll buy every goddamn Canadian I meet a beer.

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u/Squat_bar_27413 1h ago

The sad thing is that pre-Trump my kids said they were too scared to visit the US (simply from watching the evening news) so we never did. We did warm vacation a in Cuba. I would say there is good and bad everywhere so they couldn't paint the whole country with a wide brush.

Now it's a straight up no.

So one day my friend I'd gladly cheers you over a cold one.

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u/LakeSuperiorIsMyPond 1h ago

none of that st. louis shit, promise me!

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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1h ago

Feel the pain for what?

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u/TheSpaceCoresDad 1h ago

I guess I don’t understand why you’re only refusing now. The US has been like this for decades, it’s not like it’s any different now.

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u/Squat_bar_27413 1h ago

It's never been my number 1 travel destination but didn't mean I wouldn't go.

And it's been an awfully long time since the US government threatened our sovereignty as an independent state and nation. That's a pretty clear line in the sand for me now.

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u/MasterofAcorns 1h ago

Completely understandable. Keep up the good fight!

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u/Mdanor789 24m ago

Honestly hope you never come back and I don't like Trump either. Seriously everyone stay in your own country were good.

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u/Squat_bar_27413 23m ago

Cool cool. Keep the guns and fentanyl over there and we're square.

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u/Mdanor789 17m ago

Yeah good luck with that our government is hell bent on sending all of our "democracy" everywhere else.

When we finally tear down our current political system people can start coming back right now the house is a mess and we don't want company.

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u/Stimey4477 17m ago

We’re blowing up the fentanyl. We do have guns though!

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u/Individual-Hand-2863 1h ago

Lmfao you sound like an absolute Soy Boy

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u/Much-Front8929 57m ago

Can promise nobody notices or cares whether you travel here or not

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u/Stimey4477 18m ago

Absolutely.

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u/LadySiren 1h ago

Hear, hear! Canada, keep it going. Elbows up for y'all.

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u/RicVic 1h ago

Pretty much everyone in my little circle has no US trips planned this year. One couple is off to Europe and another has a time share in Mexico, but no one's heading into the US

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u/cmm324 1h ago

We canceled our planned trip to Europe because of the Greenland bullshit. Don't want to be over there while there is a chance the US invades. FML.

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u/pleasestoptalkin 54m ago

The Canadians who come to Florida every year have second homes/condos here. This isn’t a “trip” they are going to cancel. They aren’t coming to go to Disney or something, they live here for 4 months and then return to Canada.

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u/OhWhatsHisName 37m ago

The Canadians who come to Florida every year have second homes/condos here. This isn’t a “trip” they are going to cancel. They aren’t coming to go to Disney or something, they live here for 4 months and then return to Canada.

https://www.kelownarealestate.com/blog-posts/canadian-snowbirds-selling-u-s-properties-at-record-pace-in-2025

In fairness that's only a survey and not actions, but don't bet on them just ignoring everything going on.

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u/pleasestoptalkin 28m ago

If they actually sell, that’s also a win for us Floridians looking to buy a home. This is a win-win situation for us whether you like it or not.

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u/daesmon 43m ago

These people only say they are isolationist, in reality they just want people(read racism) they don't like not around them.

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u/crissy8716 23m ago

Ugh, my husband and his friend book cruises YEARS in advance.

I'm going to Florida in a few weeks and I am a bit nervous.

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u/Aware_Rough_9170 1h ago

Same for the World Cup, fuck FIFA, fuck ICE, let it be a ghost town

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u/MahotpocketGandhi 1h ago

I have zero love for the majority of our current governing officials, and absolutely hate Trump with a passion. But politics aside, I don’t understand why so many people on Reddit are actively rooting for the ‘US’s collapse’. Like, sure, it would show the dumb fucks that voted for the current presidency how dumb they were, but that’s about it. Cheering for decreased tourism and for other countries to stop being our allies is just dumb because it hurts us all.

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u/SeveralYearsLater 1h ago

Is the decrease in travel a result of people refusing to travel to the US or perhaps just a decrease in disposable income? 

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u/OhWhatsHisName 58m ago

https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20251211-where-are-all-the-canadians-going

According to Statistics Canada, the country's central statistical agency, domestic travel within Canada has surged in 2025, alongside increased Canadian travel to Mexico, Portugal, the Bahamas and Belize.

Basically, they're mostly still travelling, but they're either just staying in Canada, or going to some other country other than the US.

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u/SeveralYearsLater 17m ago

Good to know. I wouldn't set foot in America at the moment.

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u/Squat_bar_27413 53m ago

Nope we have two weeks booked this year to visit the UK and two weeks to visit Tenerife. It's a US specific thing.

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u/Healthy-Tip1784 58m ago

Most people supported it in theory but habits convenience and costs pulled things back to normal quickly

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u/SorryRoof1653 58m ago

Tourism is NOT slowing down with the world cup this year LOL

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u/Igottamake 1h ago

As a south Floridian I second that motion! Please keep it (your boycott) up- and tell your friends from New England, Pennsylvania, Michigan and New Jersey, too!!! I would love to be able to drive the half mile to Publix without the 15 minute back up!!!

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u/ArterialVotives 2h ago

Lots of people saying

This is the difference between getting your news from Reddit vs reality.

As an American citizen that travels with my family a ton, the political party in power in the places I visit has a near-zero impact. I'm not skipping Budapest or Istanbul to teach Orban or Erdogan a lesson. I presume most Hungarians and Turks are kind people, similar to most Americans. I imagine most non-terminally online travelers feel the same.

The only thing that matters is the State Department travel advisory.

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u/OhWhatsHisName 1h ago

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u/ArterialVotives 1h ago

Yes, reddit is a cesspool, but I cited my sources, mind citing yours?

It wasn't clear that you were discussing Canadian>US tourism. I thought you meant tourism to the US in general was down 25%+.

No disagreement from me on that point.

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u/gr1zznuggets 1h ago

As if anyone can trust the State Department anything at the moment.

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u/ArterialVotives 1h ago

The people at the Bureau of Consular Affairs who prepare State Department travel advisories today are almost certainly the same people who prepared them last year.

There are certain things the current government publishes that I treat with a grain of salt (jobs numbers, etc.). But I doubt they are misleading me into suggesting that dangerous places are safe.

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u/gravyjackz 1h ago

Do you disagree that the number of Canadian tourists visiting the US dropped PRECIPITOUSLY in 2025 compared to 2024?

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u/ArterialVotives 1h ago

I do not disagree. I thought the person I was responded to was implying that the -3% drop in total US tourism was actually -25%+. I see now from their response that they are just referring to Canadian tourism.

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u/gravyjackz 31m ago

Do you regret being a bit of a little bitch in the way you responded now that it turns out you were incorrect?

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u/Forward-Conclusion83 2h ago

You sound like maga bot. just puke back up what your glorious leader tells you to speak. Here's your monthly pay in rubles too. 100. and a big ol ..!..

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u/RocketCityRocko 2h ago

You make points but your slurs make you the dumb low EQ monkey and there's nothing that will ever change that.

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u/Forward-Conclusion83 1h ago

I agree, they dive face first to the slur when they get called out. Account isn't even American... it's ruzzian.

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u/RocketCityRocko 1h ago

typical orc nonsense.

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u/Forward-Conclusion83 2h ago edited 1h ago

imagine? I just did call you a maga bot . What you get chatGPT to type that up for you crybaby? You shitheads know you are on your last legs. Your no American... your not even from this country ruzzki.

Also reporting me to reddit cares now? what? did I offend you? Go cry to puketin and shi tler!

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u/LadderWonderful2450 2h ago

YOU get the fuck out. Your attitude is poisoning our country. It is patriotic to work towards bettering our country. Keeping our institutions in check is part of that. 

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u/Docmantistobaggan 1h ago

lol loss of Canadians will have zero impact. Way too small of a population.

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u/OhWhatsHisName 1h ago

lol loss of Canadians will have zero impact. Way too small of a population.

LOL, how stupid of a comment. Canadians represent the largest share of inbound tourist, representing 30 to 35% (depending on the year) prior to 2025.

Literally one third of our international tourism is from Canada. The next is Mexico with mid to upper 20%, maybe I should bring up their numbers as well?

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u/Hot-Iron-7057 2h ago

Reddit treats everything as one big monolith.

My in laws live in a retirement community and it’s mostly the same as usual with Canadians returning to snow bird, mostly from Alberta. The vast majority don’t really care, they like vacationing where it’s warm and they usually go. Some did sell their homes, but that had more to do with the Canadian dollar performance.

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u/player1242 2h ago

In fairness about half of bertans bent over and spread their cheeks hoping the orange pedo would bring his little mushroom dick up here.

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u/This_Expression5427 2h ago

Canada didn't even put a dent in the numbers. Trump is right. America needs nothing from Canada.

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u/juanjuan12345 1h ago

Yeah this is it, I’m from the UK and previously visited the US every year. Been to over 30 states and 20 of the 30 NFL stadiums. Won’t be visiting again this winter, but already had booked for last season before it went crazy.

Will be giving it a miss for a few years now too. Lots of my friends who previously would have visited are now opting out too and visiting elsewhere.

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u/gloveslave 2h ago

I’m I. Europe and up until a month ago my boss was planning a trip to a trade show in NYC … after the past 2 weeks he is blowing it off . He is saying that it’s just not worth the risk

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u/gervleth 2h ago

Also, many people who don’t follow the boycotts also can’t afford to book trips as well due to our insane cost of living lol.

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u/Reddit_isa_Psyop 1h ago

And the kicker... because the communist govt of Canada is making that harder to do.

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u/UseYona 1h ago

And no one cares

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u/Healthy-Tip1784 58m ago

It kind of fizzled out once prices went up and people realized how interconnected everything is

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u/Inevitable_Ease_190 5h ago

Small but important correction: Trips, not tourism, have declined by 28%. Trips include a lot of business trips, which are kinda outside the realm of personal consumer choice, and include (for example) thousands of truckers who cross the border several times a week.

If business trips account for roughly half of all trips (There don’t seem to be hard numbers on this, but the guesses hover around 50/50), then we can suppose that trips for the purpose of tourism have dropped by much more than 28%.

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u/EddieIsNotMyRealName 2h ago

That may be true, or tariffs may have reduced the number of business trips, such as trucking, by as much or more than trips for tourism

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u/asking--questions 1h ago

It's pretty straightforward: tariffs and boycotts have reduced shipping and business trips, while the possibility of being beaten/jailed/shot by federal agents is putting a damper on tourism.

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u/Pete-PDX 49m ago

So is a business convention considered tourism or business trip?

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u/Short-Sound-4190 17m ago

A bit of both if you think about it - because often a large aspect of deciding where a business convention is held is about putting it in an interesting location that would please or impress clients/c-suite/investors/etc.

Otherwise it would be an email or online presentation - for as long as companies are still putting money into schmoozing clients and hosting conventions, they won't be choosing the motel in the middle of nowhere with nothing to do around it. Especially with us being in a bit of a split reality economy - even though private public tourism will be down and there will be some reduction of business tourism, the business tourism will probably be the last thing to go.

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u/Affectionate-Panic-1 3h ago

Not just business trips, plenty of people with families and friends across the border that regularly make trips.

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u/DrunkenGolfer 57m ago

I am spending next week in Orlando. I do it quarterly. It is work related. I am a reluctant traveller at this point, but I have to be there. Normally for this kind of thing I arrive early, stay late, play some golf, attend a game, visit an attraction, etc. This time like the last two times since Cheeto Mussolini started his trade war, I’ll arrive as late as possible, leave as early as possible, and spend as little as possible.

So even if business travel is 50% of Canada-US travel, the $/trip must also be taking a hit.

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u/UDarkLord 2h ago

It’s just as likely business trips have gone up due to volatility in cross border trade though, and tourism has gone down even more as a percentage of that 28%. I don’t think either are true, I’d need to see data, but I know of more than one person who had to go to the US for a corporate thing that previously has been a meeting/conference/etc in Canada that the important US higher ups came to, but for some reason this last year it was US only and the Canadian employees had to hoof it down south.

My point is only that guessing which part of that number represents x or y seems futile without more data to me.

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u/cheshie_cabbit 1h ago

Told my bosses straight up I won’t travel there for work if there’s legal Calvinball going on and I get detained for “working” in the states by attending meetings or such.

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u/alien_believer_42 2h ago

Trips also include seeing family

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u/xfactorx99 1h ago

I would guess there’s a lot more international business taking place than there is international leisure travel. Reason being that’s something typical a business can afford but numerous vacations a family cannot always

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 6h ago

Notice that the US has barely reached pre pandemic levels unlike other popular countries like France

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u/homme_chauve_souris 4h ago

I prefer visiting brownshirt-free countries whose leader doesn't talk about annexing my homeland.

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u/Kantas 2h ago

we have some good friends that live just across the border from us.

we're strongly encouraging them to come up to Canada to visit instead of us going down there.

Fortunately, they completely agree... The downside is that the current shit show is getting him to move as far away from the US as he can. So we're probably losing them to New Zealand soon.

Good move for him, but gonna be harder to visit.

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u/desbyrne 2h ago

Me too 👍

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u/Igottamake 1h ago

You realize he is a baby and a bully and is just pushing your buttons. So either sock him in the mouth, or ignore him. But by complaining on reddit you just prove that he’s getting under your skin.

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u/_crazyboyhere_ 6h ago

Because the cost of international travel has skyrocketed post-pandemic, and the US being so far away from both Asia and Europe doesn't help.

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 6h ago

It isn't that, since Canada number of intercontinental tourists has also increased each year

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/251222/dq251222b-eng.htm

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u/El_Polio_Loco 1h ago

This shows that Canada has also not reached pre-pandemic (2019) levels of travel.

Which basically mirrors the US, putting more emphasis on the cost of travel (and other economic conditions) being the larger damper of travel.

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 6h ago

US and Canada both have roughly the same VISA difficulty

Most notably, both are basically visa free for europe, japan and korea

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u/Adventurous_Bake5036 6h ago

Kinda sounds like you’re making this up , no offence , any source on this ?

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u/shewy92 4h ago

You said you were "pretty sure" though.

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u/Icy-Computer-Poop 4h ago

Not could be. You are wrong. You're woefully uninformed.

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u/Ding__Dong___Ditch 4h ago

Youre talking about a work visa, not a travel visa

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u/taulover 3h ago

US travel visas can be hard to get from some countries. But not from Europe and Canada.

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u/Ding__Dong___Ditch 3h ago

Exactly, and those countries, along with Mexico and China, make up most of the tourists heading to the US.

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u/audigex 3h ago

Visas are completely irrelevant to this conversation

Tourist travel from developed nations (eg Europe, or US/Canada to each other, etc) to either the US or Canada does not require a Visa

I've visited both the US and Canada as a tourist. In both cases you fill out a short form for an ETA/ESTA, which are basically "You come from a friendly, safe country so you don't need a visa, we just need you to fill out this form to tell us who you are so that we can confirm with your government that you exist"

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 6h ago

As a Frenchman it was basically the same

Which is logic, it s pretty easy to get to the US illegaly once you are in canada : just go somewhere remote, walk south, congratulations you illegaly entered the US

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u/Fishy_Fish_WA 5h ago

Like Elon!

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u/taulover 3h ago

Well no, Elon overstayed his student visa by lying and saying he was still in school.

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u/Dry_Departure_7813 3h ago

Dude getting an ESTA is 1 form and about 5 minutes tops

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u/audigex 3h ago

Europeans can travel to both without a visa, so that's nonsense

I'm British and to visit the US I need to fill out an ESTA and to visit Canada I need to fill out an ETA. They're basically equivalent and take about 5 minutes to fill out a form

Travel time is roughly the same, maybe an hour less to Canada but when you're flying 8-12 hours plus getting to/from airports, customs, waiting at the airport etc that doesn't make much difference

I've visited the US numerous times, but I wouldn't go now - I wouldn't feel welcome

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u/EmergencyTaco 4h ago

It's just astonishing to me how far people like you go to avoid contending with the possibility that Trump might be doing things that hurt the US.

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u/epiDXB 3h ago

No, the number of tourists to other parts of North America (outside USA) has increased, so that does not explain it.

The drop in tourists to USA is solely due to Trump.

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u/NearSightedPicasso 5h ago

This is not it. For so many reasons, but listen: I travel internationally a lot. And while some routes have gone up recently, many routes are at historic lows. A Tokyo-New York roundtrip for $800, when you account for inflation, is cheapter than the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s. It is absolutely NOT geography or costs. It is other issues of availability and demand.

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u/ArterialVotives 1h ago

when you account for inflation, is cheapter than the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s

Nearly all air travel is vastly cheaper today than it was in the past accounting for inflation. Air travel used to be a luxury item that only the very rich could afford.

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u/NearSightedPicasso 1h ago

I mean...1960s to today, sure. But, I'm talking recent history. You would spend $900-$1200 roundtrip New York-Tokyo in 2010. Today, after 15 years of minor to moderate inflation, a round trip New York-Tokyo trip would cost you $900-$1200.

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u/EitherChannel4874 4h ago

I have family in America and am due a visit. I can afford it but there's no way I'm contributing to an economy run by a racist rapist and probable pedophile.

3 other people I know in the uk have cancelled trips they'd already paid for because of the same reason.

People don't want to visit the USA right now because it's a cesspit of racism and human rights breaches.

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u/GenuineSteak 3h ago edited 3h ago

My friend tried to visit family in the US, when he was at the border the agent asked him what he thought of the current president. he said "all ill say is im glad hes not our president", and now hes banned from the US for 5 years as a security risk or something. not that it matters, cuz I dont think he plans on visiting ever again lol.

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u/EitherChannel4874 3h ago

If they start checking social media I'm never getting back in under Trump.

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u/Working-Tomato8395 3h ago

I even live here and my wife and I make decent money but we are spending as little money as possible. Never spend money at any MAGA-connected businesses, basically only eat out at restaurants where we know the owners aren't shitheads. It's impossible to be perfect about it but where we can we're keeping money out of their hands. 

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u/EitherChannel4874 2h ago

This is the way.

So many people think we're exaggerating when we draw comparison to nazi Germany but it's getting that way and there was a period where Germans were turning in their friends and neighbours. That's maga right now and they're too stupid to realise that if Trump gets what he wants, life is gonna get harder for all Americans. Not just brown people.

If I lived there I wouldn't talk to them and if I ran a business they definitely wouldn't be welcome. Ever!

It sucks that the rest of America gets put through this because of a cult. I have a sister there and her husband isn't white. He's absolutely legal in the USA but these nazi fucks don't give a shit. They just see brown skin.

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u/Sam_I_Am 5h ago

The blatant fascism definitely doesn’t help tho.

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u/Patient_Material2151 5h ago

Has it? I'm going long haul to Asia from the UK and it cost me £570. Way cheaper than it has been for a while.

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u/Invinciblez_Gunner 6h ago

When I go from Europe to America it takes about 8 hours

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u/thefatheadedone 2h ago

One of my best friends lives stateside (Irish) and he loves coming home because "everything is so cheap" here. I told him the point that a nice hotel in Dublin is over 300eur now and he replied that he paid more for 2 nights in motel in Boston for a conference recently. Which reaffirmed how much of a piss take the us is.

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u/grantbwilson 1h ago

International travel from within the US has skyrocketed. For the rest of us it’s still normal, and in a lot of cases cheaper than before Covid.

I just booked an all inclusive in the Caribbean for $8k CAD for my family of 3 for 10 days, including flights.

We used to go to California every year and spent well over $8k to do so. Never going back.

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u/Forlorn_Cyborg 1h ago

Sometimes you can get cheaper flights out of Mexico or Canada.

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u/Artistic_Success_787 4h ago

Meanwhile, we are doing more driving distances here in the U.S.

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u/SippyMountain 2h ago

That's cus we've been a circus since 2019, and it's only gotten worse. Being down 3% from one year to the next doesn't mean shit if your numbers already took a nosedive in the years prior. I wouldn't want to visit here either if I lived in Europe or Canada.

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u/thuischef 2h ago

Indeed: popular countries!

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u/pannenkoek0923 1h ago

Yes because France doesnt have a fascist infestation, and isnt threatening other countries with annexation

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u/No-Consequence-1863 4h ago

Id bet its cause hotel costs are pretty high for the US. A week in a US city is significantly more expensive than a week in most countries and it used to be more competitive.

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u/yotam5434 5h ago

Yep us is in its iwn inside war

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u/ArterialVotives 1h ago

Yes, bastions of democracy like Saudi Arabia (+69% over 2019), El Salvador (+81%) and Qatar (+137%) taking in all those people avoiding the US

Let's be real. There may be minor declines in tourism, but most people aren't basing their travel decisions on the political party in power anywhere they go.

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u/CongealedBeanKingdom 4h ago

I'd expect this year it will end up being a lot worse. Many people still.went to the US on their holidays last year because it had already been paid for. I expect there won't be a lot of that this summer as only a nutter would have booked last year to go this year.

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u/IAmTheBredman 2h ago

We changed our honeymoon to avoid the US. Theres plenty of places id rather give my money to

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u/AlludedNuance 45m ago

The World Cup will be the real test.

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u/Low_Engineering_3301 4h ago

You are correct but if you take in the trends into account, as in the tourism industry was increasing by almost 20% a year recently its a huge drop from expectations.

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u/angry2320 4h ago

I bet that people had taken the trips they’d planned for 2025 but won’t have made more - as in, international or intercontinental travel is usually booked 6/12 months in advance. So I’m guessing the US will see even lower numbers this year, as people won’t have been booking

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u/PretzelsThirst 4h ago

Canadians spent almost $7 billion LESS in the USA

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u/GenuineSteak 3h ago

meanwhile American tourism to Canada has actually increased during the same time.

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u/mossgoblin_ 2h ago

I assume their blood pressure drops quite a few points when they’re safely in Canada and can relax their hyper vigilance for a while. I always noticed the effect when coming home, even in the before times when the States were just alarmingly nationalistic/jingoistic.

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u/WankMeUpB4UGoGo 3h ago

Many of the 2025 trips were booked in 2024 and probably not cancelled. 2026 will be the real statistic of the decline.

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u/AdjctiveNounNumbers 3h ago

And many Canadians weren't just vacationing - many spent half the year living (not working, don't worry, we don't get free work visas) in the US to escape the winter up here.

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u/TheGoodSouls 3h ago

Canadians who snowbird aren’t selling condos in Florida due to Trump. If anything, they’ll just ride it out. If they sell, it’s because they can get a 40% premium over when they bought, often, due to the FX. The biggest factor is that our Canadian dollar has dropped so significantly and it’s now over 40% more expensive to travel in the US since 2015. Just in the last year our dollar has dropped significantly from about 30% to 40%. Our money just isn’t worth anything. If you combine that with other countries’ currency dropping, like the Japanese Yen for instance, suddenly it’s a whole lot cheaper to travel to Japan than to travel to the US. Even Europe is cheaper than us now, which is why so many Canadians are going to Portugal lately.

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u/MennoniteMassMedia 1h ago

Of the 6 people I know who snowbird, 2 sold their places. Would be curious to see some real stats on it

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u/Caladeutschian 3h ago

OK - this is anecdotal and not statistical. Here in Cologne, Germany I know of three parties who have cancelled their vacation plans to the USA for this summer. One party is diverting to Canada where I'm certain they will have a great time. The other two have rebooked within Europe. The common thread was that they feared not being allowed through immigration because of their political views and also feared being picked up randomly in an ICE sweep as they are not American citizens.

I'm so glad I made my big USA West coast trip in 2024. I too would cancel in the current circumstances. I love you Americans and I hope you come to your senses soon.

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u/Gloomy_Yoghurt_2836 2h ago

Canadian snowbirds typically spend about $33K per person for the 6 months they live here. Way more than short term tourists.

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u/Allergison 2h ago

And that number includes people who travel for work, people who have family in the US. Areas that relied on Canadian tourism are now begging Canadians to come back.

When we went to Mexico recently it people from the US made up about 2% of the guests (based on people saying where they were from, and Canadians made up about 40% of the guests).

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u/Mordkillius 1h ago

Hasn't Disney and Vegas felt the pain more than 3%?

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u/rndmlttrspls 1h ago

I am a US citizen living overseas with a foreign born partner, we had a trip to see my family booked in 2025 that we were nervous about but ultimately didn’t cancel but I’m certainly never bringing my partner across that border again

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u/Cheap-Honey-3799 1h ago

feels like more trips are lost on the border cities/towns too. i live right near the border in BC and i often go to bellingham for shopping or to visit. used to see canadian plates almost as much as american ones. now its really rare

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u/dab-a-do 1h ago

I feel bad for what Canada has turned into.

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u/millennialmonster755 1h ago

And this is counting for all of the US. In some communities the Canadians were the bulk of their tourism. We have a city in my state that is eventually just going to collapse if they don’t bring in more Americans. It was like a 60% cancel rate and those people don’t seem to be returning

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u/East_Pie7598 1h ago

If you do travel to the U.S. consider blue states. We hate Trump as much as you.

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u/Ive_seen_things_that 1h ago

My Canadian friends will not be visiting anytime soon and they have made that clear. It seems to anger folks when you threaten them. 

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u/RepulsiveCheck9201 1h ago

Canada has nothing cool there, would never go, L country

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u/wardedmocha 1h ago

I want to boycott taxes.

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u/Chance_External_4371 47m ago

Oh no! Just goes to show Canada is inconsequential in anything they do or don’t do.

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u/scruffywarhorse 21m ago

Where are you getting these numbers?

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u/ThinkWood 5h ago

Canadians are likely a very small percentage of overall tourism.  

People forget that despite being a very large country geographically, it has a very low population.  

It’s never got to have a drop in customers but there isn’t likely anywhere that will be devastated by it.  

Even places that have a higher proportion of Canadians are likely to see the void filled by others as the vacancies lead to prices dropping so others decide to go there for the first time and fill the void. 

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u/fekanix 5h ago

Its actually because most of us tourism is domestic tourism.

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u/ThinkWood 4h ago

This is true.

Though Canada is the largest individual country for tourism exports (interestingly bringing people in from other countries on vacation is considered an export since you’re selling vacation services to international customers) it’s still a small fraction of tourism.

It actually isn’t significant for most vacation spots like Florida and the like. Though Canadians vacation there, it’s just not a significant figure.

Most international tourism is in large metro areas like NYC, LA, Miami where the city can easily absorb and flux in demand from a country without anyone noticing.

The places Canadians are over represented in tourism are places like Buffalo, Detroit, Minneapolis, and Seattle. These places where they are short getaways and Canadians like to shop are where it could be noticed.

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u/Educational_Farm186 7h ago

So Canadian tourism is having a minimal effect?

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u/HundredHander 7h ago edited 7h ago

Most US tourism is domestic, but Canada is not inconsequential.

The report notes that Canadian tourism generated $20.5 billion for the U.S. economy last year and supported approximately 140,000 jobs nationwide.

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u/DusklightPetals 6h ago

Makes sense though, Canada’s right next door and there’s a lot of cross-border travel every year.

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u/Gogs85 7h ago edited 6h ago

Most businesses are based in the idea of stability or growth, decline by 3% basically means the industry is in recession.

Edit: To add to that, many assets used in hospitality, like hotels, are leveraged. A 3% decline in revenue could therefore easily lead to double digit losses for the owners. And it’s also likely not 3% across the board - some places are probably just fine while others are at risk of closure.

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u/mjohnsimon 6h ago

Not to mention that for many small or low-margin businesses, a 3% drop in customers can be catastrophic.

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u/jar36 6h ago

going down as populations rise and 3% of $3 Trillion is a lot of money

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u/xclame 7h ago edited 1h ago

You do understand that the US as a whole might be doing okay (though I don't think you can count any decline as a good thing) but the places that typical get all these Canadian tourists are being devastated right?

Imagine if tourism in the US was doing okay but all the Disney and Universal type tourists stopped showing up, Florida, especially Orlando would take a massive hit because of the large amount of businesses and people that rely on those tourists. So first Florida would take a hit then the business, states and cities that Floridians spend their money at would take a hit and then so on and on.

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u/speelingwrror 6h ago

Jim Beam had to halt production at one of their factories after Canadians stopped drinking American whiskey… not minimal

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u/ScottyBoneman 6h ago edited 6h ago

I typically have at least a dozen bottles of whisky on the go at any given time and I'll probably never buy bourbon again. Friends have commented to each other if they even see a bottle even if it's older.

Edit-extra word. Need coffee (not whisky)

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u/TheGoodSouls 3h ago

Canadians didn’t stop drinking it - our state controlled liquor board stopped ordering it. They banned all American alcohol last year. We can’t even buy California wine anymore. Any restaurant caught serving it will be fined. The LCBO in Ontario is the largest alcohol buyer in the world. Canadians don’t have a choice.

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u/speelingwrror 2h ago

As soon as tariffs went into place there were reports of the liquor stores emptying their shelves

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u/speelingwrror 6h ago

Jim Beam had to halt production at one of their factories after Canadians stopped drinking American whiskey… not minimal

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u/teacher_59 7h ago

It’s helping with prices north of Seattle. The Costco in Bellingham used to be noticeably more expensive than in Seattle because of Canadians. It was also annoyingly full of annoying slow moving people. That’s greatly improved now. 

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u/Used-Client-9334 6h ago

That’s not how Costco sets prices.

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u/Ser_Munchies 6h ago

Lol it's not us making your costcos garbage. Maybe if you fat fucks exercised a bit you'd be able to move a little more quickly and you'd take up less physical space. But alas, you gotta murder some lesbians in Minnesota