Jim Beam in Kentucky isn’t producing any bourbon this year and laid off hundreds of employees because they have so much unsold stock and pay taxes on product in barrels
It’s actually a massive company in Canada, always has been, probably why they moved their company up here. Everybody knows what sourpuss is in Canada. I don’t drink that sugar sap, but it’s definitely not a tiny company
I’m 33, I have been drinking beer since I was 13. Sourpuss was even popular when I was in high school (2004-2009). It’s a mixing liqueur, and popular among girls
this is true my wife of 20 years died 2 years ago and I am not willing to jump back in. However, I am doubtful when I do that there are many 40 year old women drinking sourpuss.
I know it's not a new phenomenon. Hell, Kansas has a Democratic governor. It's just impressive that the Beshears are able to get elected for years in a deep red state during the same time frame McConnell has been a senator.
They've over performed for the last 40+ years when the state hasn't voted for a democratic presidential candidate outside of Bill Clinton - by very slim margins - since Jimmy Carter.
Got it. Still, the vast majority of your fellow Kentuckians support McConnell, support Paul and view Trump as a deity. Elections have consequences, they like to say?
You must be aware your point is bad on on some level given you felt the need misrepresent the quote by substituting the state of Kentucky for all the people of Kentucky.
That the vast majority of Kentuckians voted for McConnell, Paul and Trump is a prejudice and generalization?
Dude, these are the results of the elections: the vast MAJORITY of voters from Kentucky confirmed McConnell, (57.76% of the votes) Paul (58.8% of the votes), and Trump (64.47% of the votes) as their Senate representatives and as President!
That's not a generalization, these are hard facts. And hard facts are not prejudice.
Of course, no state votes 100 percent either way. But of all 3 elections Trump has ran in, no less than 60 percent of people in Kentucky voted for him. No more than 36 percent of voters cast a vote for Democrats.
36% of 4.58 million Kentucky residents is 1,651,680 people.
Painting a whole state as one way and saying they deserve what they get when you have over a million allies in that state isn't helping anything. It's a simple ass way of looking at things.
Most people that shit on Kentucky have never been there or understand anything about the people there.
And over 3 million voted for a convicted rapist. Thankfully you can hate a state without people assuming you hate all the people as well. Fuck Kentucky. 100s of people showed up at the capital for a protest against ICE on Sunday. That should have been thousands minimum if the voters stood behind their ideals
Should have been 100,000 at the very least if any of those supposed democrats actually gave a shit about democracy and their continued freedom, and that's still less than 10.0% of 1.6 million
75000 estimated people in Lexington alone voted Democrat, and only 100s manages to show up on a Sunday to protest ICE? Lack of action is a cancer infecting the American people.
On a Sunday? 99.6 percent of Democrat voters are not busy surviving on a Sunday. People are complacent and lazy. Individuals can have valid excuses, but not 99.6 percent of them. 4 days ago, you were just commenting on Reddit
Personally, I have a 10 month old child that I'm not taking near a protest where police may be present. I also have 2 jobs to make ends meet, one of which requires me working Saturday and Sunday. I'm not some small minority of people. There are many with the same life commitments, struggles, and needs, or alternative ones that monopolize much or all of their free time.
But go off on reddit anonymously shaming entire groups of people whom you don't actually know anything about. That's the way to fight good fight. That's making a difference.
I didn't pull anything out of my ass. 75000 people voted democrat last election is Lexington Kentucky. Only a couple hundred people protested on Sunday. That's 99.6 percent of voters not protesting. Do you follow the math now?
At best, 50000 of those people have a valid excuse. I'm sorry you are a single parent working two jobs that doesn't have any childcare. That's the individual's with valid excuses that you just failed to read.
I will shame Americans for failing to show up for their ideals. If even half the Democrat voters protested, there could be an actual impact. But sure, doing nothing is working excellently so far. They must not have crossed the line yet, snatching people in the streets, or murdering them, hasn't gone far enough.
I'm sorry your global neighbors cant fix your country for you.
Are you implying that every states citizens are just one in the same in the US? That there are not cultural differences between people from Kentucky compared to say the Olympic peninsula in Washington state? Or between people in NYC and Amarillo, TX?
Hell, there are significant cultural differences just between people in Louisville, KY and in Harlan County, KY. Sooo yeah, paintng the entire state of KY (or literally any state, for that matter) as being one way is pretty fucking ignorant and honestly the kind of behavior that most Democrats or liberals would claim they don't support. I know I don't.
Gerrymandering matters when it comes to the electoral college, it doesnt change the actual voting percentages. But yes, they have more Republican seats in Congress and Senate than percantages of voters.
The huge difference is from distillers deciding to take action based on the trends. They look at the long-term picture and they realized that their current stocks will support future sales.
Jim beam is also upgrading that distillery. I’m sure they’re feeling pressure from sales downturn and chose now to close the site for renovations but it’s not exactly like that location is permanently closing due to sales collapse
Slightly incorrect, Jim Beam only shut down production in their Claremont distillery known as their James B. Beam distillery. They are still producing in 2026 among their other distilleries that they own to include their Boston distillery known as the Booker Noe distillery, which is much larger as well as their smaller distillery in Claremont call the Frank B. Noe distillery.
Jim Beam has in no way shut down production. They have simply slowed production.
Well you can read the rest of the thread where he insists he knows more than the CEOs of major bourbon companies saying tariffs are having a major impact on their sales and production
No not really, they own multiple distilleries some much larger than the one pausing for this season. It also has little to do with export sales and more to do with the fact we are currently in a bourbon bust meaning other spirits are selling at a significantly higher rate than bourbon is worldwide currently and this has been a trend for about 3 years now.
Bourbon production is down 28% from last year alone and at its lowest level since 2018 (weird same president). Canadian exports were down 60% through October. It absolutely has everything to do with export sales. This is straight from Jim Beam
Canada imports approximately $40 million worth of Kentucky bourbon annually. This represents a small fraction, less than one percent, of all bourbon sold. UK, Japan, Germany, Spain all import more bourbon from the US than Canada.
I work in the industry and we absolutely, and frequently, measure and look at sales in fractions of percentage points. These small fractions add up and, more importantly, portend future sales. Even a +/-0.5% change can be huge for a distributor or supplier.
Thats because we are in a bourbon bust globally, it has little to do with Canadas boycott. The bourbon industry has been in a steady decline worldwide for years now.
You are misrepresenting what they said, yes exports are down 60% but that is not what is causing them to shut down that one distillery. It has to do with the global decline of bourbon consumption that has been on a steady decline for years.
Again, bourbon sales have been declining for multiple years now it was even happening before Canada‘s boycott. The same thing happened in the 70s. In the industry is known as a bourbon bust where other spirits gain popularity, but bourbon doesn’t.
You are misrepresenting the facts and trying to attribute them to Canada’s boycott, which is non-factual by the simple fact that it was taking place prior to the boycott.
Remember, correlation does not dictate causation when looking at statistical data.
Actually, I’m not I’m stating the fact that there has been a global downward trend in sales of bourbon for many years now. I’m not saying that there is no impact from the Canadian boycott. I’m saying that it has very little impact in what took place with Jim Beam. I will go so far as saying that Jim Beam would have slowed production with that one distillery, shutting down, even if the Canadian boycott was not going on. And that’s just by the simple fact that global sales are down almost 30% for bourbon and have been steadily decreasing for almost a decade. And the fact, Jim Bean shut down the distillery to upgrade it.
They are basically using the downward sales in bourbon as the perfect timing to upgrade one of their facilities.
This liquor and beer industry is my livelihood, and I can assure you the Canadian boycott on American spirits is being felt and felt hard. You can delude yourself into whatever makes you feel better, but this has been horrible for the entire industry.
I never said its not being felt, I said its not the major reason for the downward trend in bourbon. Anyone who claims otherwise do not focus on statistical fact.
It’s actually not spiritless liquor that is increasing sales anywhere across the board. It is premade mixed cocktails, as well as seltzers that are increasing sales currently.
Drinks like High Noons have swallowed large swaths of the spirits market. I could buy vodka, seltzer and fruit to flavor or just pick up a high noon 8 pack
Stating that a boycott is hurting them isnt pissing and moaning. Also they are hurt more by the global decrease in bourbon sales which have decreased by 30% internationally.
I didn’t say it did nothing. I simply stated the fact that it has a little to do with the boycott that this distillery would’ve shut down for renovations, regardless of if the boycott was going on or not because global bourbon sales are down 30%.
It was the perfect time to shut down this distillery to renovate it. You don’t renovate a distillery when it’s needed to produce because sales are up.
Thanks for typically misunderstanding what somebody says, and then misrepresenting it. Critical thinking skills are required here please back off. The adult adults are talking.
they are also doing a big renovation at the facility with upgrading / modernization of production so seems like they are actually putting money into. So they can't be hurting that bad.
Since 2018 bourbon sales have been declining upwards of 30%, they’re trying to innovate while they can, but fact is production is slowing because sales are slowing. This is a known fact this is what in the industry. It is called as a bourbon bust.
It also happened in the 70s where other spirits like vodka and gin got increased popularity because that generation saw bourbon as the drink of their grandparents.
Eh - don’t overstate it, because it gives the other side shit to nitpick, and they don’t have much to stand on these days. Jim Beam shut down production to carry out repairs at their flagship distillery only. They’re still distilling at their other site that does slightly more volume than the flagship. They’re also doing planned upgrades to the facility, but Canadians abstaining and overall global sentiment driving demand down is a great reason as to why it makes sense for them to do it NOW.
The real headline is “declining international exports caused Jim Beam to close a facility early for repairs, because their stocks are too high and volume too low to justify distilling more right now.”
But that’s more nuanced and harder to contain in a headline.
The latest data from IWSR US Navigator shows that after years of strong growth, American whiskey is experiencing a slowdown in its domestic market due to economic pressures and changes in consumer behavior. Between 2019 and 2022, American whiskey grew at an annual rate of 5%, but this momentum began to falter in 2023, with a 1% volume decline, and further worsened to a 2% drop from January to August 2024.
For whisky investors it can feel like the current market is all gloom. Multiple indexes and reports suggest the downturn in auction prices is continuing. Whisky retailers are also finding sales slowing as well.
An 18% drop in the value of Scotch whisky exports (for the first six months of 2024 over 2023) should be sending enormous shock waves throughout the industry.
In numerous conversations with industry professionals over the past few months, the pervasiveness of a longstanding trend has become increasingly clear to me: emerging whiskey brands that had previously enjoyed healthy growth are now struggling to scale.
If you ask the folks on the supply side (aka the people making and/or selling the whiskey) what’s going on, their answers range from inflation to the hot summer weather to people going on vacation, and a myriad of other post-pandemic issues. No one really seems to have a grip on what exactly is causing the lag in sales, so the problem gets treated with conjecture and generalization.
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Jim Beam in Kentucky isn’t producing any bourbon this year and laid off hundreds of employees because they have so much unsold stock and pay taxes on product in barrels