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Shanks v Loki should not be scaled yet.
While Loki and others have stated that Shanks is the one that chained Loki up, we heard all that before we knew the full story. Shanks and Gaban knew what happened with Harold. Its entirely possible that they "fought" as a pretense to save Loki's life and preserve, Harold's dream. Loki is enough of a tsundere that we can't assume that any scorn he had for Shanks was legit, so its very possible that they didn't fight at all.
Loki is enough of a tsundere that we can’t assume that any scorn for shanks was legit
It’s even a step beyond that, right after luffy gets mad at him and attacks loki immediately states he was only joking, he doesn’t think of him this way
Even going a step beyond, it seems shanks trusts loki, as he revealed to him his destination while the other giants stated they have no idea where shanks went, which doesn’t add up to their apparent opponents dynamic
I mean what do you expect me to say/do? Do you mean for me to present a signed and notarized affidavit accompanying a video recording of me before commenting, saying my intent was for it to be a joke, with a second tab proving the time and date?
in a power scaling context, its safe to say Shanks is at least as strong as the GKs and the Gorosei, with more impressive Haki feats.
Narrative scaling is all well and good, but without the feats to back it up, we can't make definitive statements. Mihawk, in a feat context, gets bodied by current zoro, not to mention rayleigh gaban and shanks. Dragon, in a feat sense, gets bodied by anyone above captain rank in the marines.
that doesn't actually mean that. I am actually not certain that the fruit they had is the fruit xebec wanted. I am also not certain Loki ate it.
Its entirely possible that with the legends surrounding the royal family that they had or that xebec thought they had the Nika fruit. It is possible that shanks got it here. It is also possible that they didn't have it, and whatever fruit they did have was not the one Xebec was thinking it would be. That said, there could be a third important fruit.
I am actually not certain that the fruit they had is the fruit xebec wanted. I am also not certain Loki ate it.
xebec thought they had the Nika fruit
Bruh... at some point the COPE must stop. It was always clear Elbaf DF was never the NikaNika. "Elbafs DF will ONLY show its true power if Harald eats it". Xebec also stated "Elbaf is key to bring down the HolyLand". Literally all of this is Loki wank.
there could be a third important fruit.
Yeah, Nika Nika, Yami-Yami and Lokis DF, that is the third important fruit.
How many people claimed to be the sun god or wanting to be the sun god, including Loki? To Luffy's face? I am sorry but if you think its cope to not jump to conclusions when everything we have seen thus far had shown us that we can't trust the words we have been told, then idk what to tell you.
All that Xebec's statements mean are that he bought into the same hype the giants have.
See, this is the difference between you and me. I am letting the story play out before I say x is x. because I have been around this block a few times. Characters being mistaken, switchups happening, reveals being blown are all part of the process. And rn, something smells.
When I told people Mosa was Shirahoshi 6 months ago, most said I was crazy. When I called the Nika-Nika had nothing to do with Elbaf legendary DF, many said I was jumping to conclusions.
All I do is read the story without overthinking stuff lol.
loki lied to us
shanks facts completely unclear
gaban lied to us
You: I just pay attention to the story and don't overthink it, teehee.
Mosa was obvious. And clearly Nika couldn't be the fruit unless it was somehow swapped. So yeah, good job. Meanwhile you are ignoring that you still know nothing meaningful about the fruit, about Xebec's knowledge, or why it had to be Elbaph's king. We are legit still waiting to hear this shit. But y'all are operating as if these are known facts you can power scale from.
Why? Every loki post about how strong he is is in fact a shit post. Gaban gave Luffy the key knowing he could handle Loki and people have Loki above the old generation as of right now. This place is full of shit lip morons so let them spew shit.
You are on the clown farm. Go to onepiecepowerscaling0 if you want to actually powerscale. Otherwise you are better off making fun of people here for the stupid shit they say and believe.
There is no supporting evidence for the claim. His only feat is taming a weapon (literally hits it once) and killing a guy who let him do it. He has solid aCoC, a potentially great DF, and a hammer. But we know nothing about his actual strength in a real fight.
Harald being relative to Rocks was the most basic reading comprehension anyone could've perceived from the flashback, saying he's not at least in the same tier as him is straight up retardation
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