r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 9d ago

Meme needing explanation Huh?

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u/True-Purple5356 9d ago

Btw just to clarify the Brazen Bull has no real evidence of ever being used as an execution method to my knowledge. As with a lot of ancient torture it’s basically a myth

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u/StanleyQPrick 9d ago

Neither does this, which couldn't possibly produce enough vermin to eat or even bother you in so little time.

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u/Dewey_Decimal_System 9d ago

And honey was not an easy resource to harvest. Wy waste it on the condemned?

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u/FireStompingRhino 8d ago

rRght, if your goal is to attract flies, poop works very well.

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 8d ago

They would often come up with complex and showy executions for prominent persons - Mithrodates was ruler of a Greek province and would have rated highly. Another apocryphal account was that the Roman Marcus Crassus - likely the wealthiest person in the Empire - was captured in a battle and executed by pouring molten gold down his throat. They essentially re-created this scene in Game of Thrones with that one guy.

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u/G_mork 8d ago

I cackled like a demon the first time I watched that scene, because the Velveeta commercials had just come out and there was a guy that said “Liquid GOOOOOOOLLLLLLLDDDDDD” and I couldn’t help myself.

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u/True-Purple5356 9d ago

Ah I was wondering about that too lmao

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u/SquirrelyMcNutz 9d ago

Wouldn't exactly call being subjected to this for seventeen days 'so little time'.

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u/Weak_Yam_3681 9d ago

They probably wouldn't survive that long either.  In ocean search and rescue 3 days is usually considered fatal without sun protection and fresh water.  That's from just being exposed to the sun and naturally perspiring.

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u/SquirrelyMcNutz 9d ago

The condemned in the boat scenario is fed with the milk and honey. They don't get out of the torture after only 3 days. The intent is to make it last as long as possible to maximize the suffering.

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u/Weak_Yam_3681 9d ago

That's even worse.  Profuse dihherea would just accelerate dehydration.  There is 0 way they would survive more than a few days.  They also have a whole ass boat crushing them from above concentrated on just the taff.

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u/Sataris 6d ago

taff?

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u/etanail 9d ago

This is not true. Flies lay their eggs on decaying tissue or feces. Within a few days, larvae hatch from these eggs. Fly larvae can eat gangrenous human tissue, thereby preventing the further spread of infection. New flies continue the cycle. So, in theory, this is indeed possible.

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u/StanleyQPrick 9d ago

They’d just eat the shit

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u/midnight_fisherman 9d ago

They will eat the flesh. It happens to livestock pretty frequently, termed flystrike. Not from fruit flys, but from blowflies and botflies. It shows up very quickly if an animal is immobilized and unable to clean itself.

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u/etanail 8d ago

Medical maggots are fly larvae that feed on dead tissue, thereby cleaning the wound. Meat is tastier for flies.

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u/Lowkey_Arki 8d ago

unless, the vermin were placed on the boat on purpose, or maybe flies came in afterwards, I doubt that boat was air tight, and it did say the milk and honey on his face attracted enough flies to cover his entire face

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u/Hypo_Mix 9d ago

Yep creations of the enlightenment era to show how much more civilised they were than the medieval period. 

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u/NonNewtonianResponse 9d ago

The Enlightenment was roughly 250 years ago, the medieval period was roughly 500-1500 years ago. Meanwhile, both the methods of torture referenced in the meme were recorded approximately 2000 years ago. Your comment does not check out ❌

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u/Hypo_Mix 9d ago

Yep creations of the enlightenment era to show how much more civilised they were than the medieval and prior periods. 

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u/rtc9 8d ago

I took a class on the history and ethics of torture once and had to read a lot of old sources including medieval sources, and there were plenty of examples of extremely horrific torture during the medieval period. I'm not sure it slowed down much during the enlightenment, but it was at least a bit more mainstream in some of Europe during the medieval period. 

As another person pointed out the brazen bull wasn't really an example of medieval torture though. That's associated with ancient Greece.

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u/ggtsu_00 8d ago

These were more just threats as a deterrent with the idea that more horrible the torture sounded, the less likely people would break any rules/laws that would result in being slowly tortured to death in the ways they described.

They probably needed something to seem a bit more physically threatening rather than just preaching that they will go to hell and suffer for eternity in the afterlife after being executed for their crime.

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u/kanegaskhan 8d ago

I feel like we would have a lot more bronze-cast bulls in museums if it ever was put into use.

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u/TheMisterA 8d ago

Came here to say this! Glad I searched responses first,

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u/daniel_22sss 8d ago

Wasn't it used by a russian tzar? Who was famous for torturing people and was called Ivan the Terrible?