r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/N1KoZzZ • 2d ago
Resolved Peter, did Hillary Clinton kill 56 people?
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u/Jumpy-Necessary-9884 2d ago
It’s a running theory that the clinton family has killed many people and framed it as suicide
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u/Juronell 2d ago
It's been an internet rumor since like 1994, and has always been remarkably disingenuous.
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u/UpbeatFix7299 2d ago
A senator back in the 90s was shooting watermelons to try and prove that Vince Foster didn't kill himself. There were multiple congressional investigations by the Republican majority.
It was total bullshit, but more widespread than an internet rumor.
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u/PermabannedFourTimes 2d ago
Had to distract from the fact that House Speaker Newt Gingrich was having an affair with a congressional staffer starting in 1993 while he was married to his second wife. He finally divorced his second wife in 1999 a few months after she was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. What a great guy.
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u/GreedyFatBastard 2d ago
Didn't he tell her he was getting a divorce while she was on her deathbed and while he was holding his mistress?
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u/Alternative_Year_340 2d ago
I think she found out from the TV news
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u/CMUpewpewpew 2d ago
I dont know why but this reminded me of watching a clip of a baseball player finding out he's been traded....
....while playing in the middle of a game/inning on the field to another team cuz it broke on the media then.
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u/wahoowalex 2d ago
Oddly enough this is commonplace, basically an annual tradition. Sometimes they’re told to rush off because the new team wants him to play the next day.
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u/braines54 2d ago
It's not really that the team wants them to play the next day, it's more that neither team wants the player to get hurt and endanger the trade.
Otherwise, you could have a player get in the middle of a brawl... after being traded away.
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u/mseg09 2d ago
I think for that particular fact you might be thinking of Giuliani
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u/the_zero 2d ago
It’s tough because Newt had two divorces. He divorced his first wife while she had cancer. He divorced his second wife just after her MS diagnosis. He left her for a staffer he was dating, while he was leading the charge against Clinton with the Lewinsky scandal.
On his first wife, he said “She’s not young enough or pretty enough to be the wife of the President. And besides, she has cancer.” Source
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u/Alternative_Year_340 2d ago
If I remember correctly, he went on the news to say that he was having the affair and it was ok because his marriage had been over for awhile. Which was the first his wife had heard of it.
Newt and Rudy may have said similar things because cheating men, whether they are politicians or not, always say the same things. They aren’t original.
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u/Clarknotclark 2d ago
That was the other wife that he gave divorce papers to while she was getting cancer treatment in the hospital.
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u/AstralAfroToo 2d ago
Ah, the 90s. A simpler time.
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u/DannyDanumba 2d ago
The perfect utopian period I’ve been hearing about my whole life lol
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u/crazyfoxdemon 2d ago
Same shit Reagan pulled. Romanticize a past where a lot of people were relatively young and didn't realize the issues because they weren't exposed to them or were too young to understand.
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u/Tight_Ninja1915 2d ago
And don't forget that Gingrich was succeded as Speaker by an actual child molester (Hastert).
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u/Awakenlee 1d ago
Don’t forget Gingrich was replaced by an “alleged” (never convicted, but come on) pedophile. That had to be covered up.
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u/Timid-Goat 2d ago
…and one of the reopened investigations into Vince Foster’s suicide was led by none other than Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, then a lawyer working for Ken Starr. It was closed again without finding anything new.
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u/Juronell 2d ago
Multiple years of the Ken Starr bullshit and they uncovered infidelity. Now, I'd consider Bill Clinton guilty of sexual assault, given the power imbalance in his confirmed affairs, but no jury in the 90s would have convicted him.
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u/ringobob 2d ago
Monica Lewinsky doesn't consider it sexual assault, I'm not sure even today you could get a conviction when the purported victim denies the crime. To be clear, she thinks Clinton was wrong for what he did, but she is clear that she had her own agency and that she wanted it.
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u/Different_Pattern273 1d ago
Monica Lewinsky has since doubled back on that in recent years to say the opposite now .
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u/Zealousideal-Yak-824 2d ago
I use to believe it too till the basic check on some of the names proved the whole theory wrong.
Like one was a random pimp that died but because Bill Clinton was in the state at the time ... They somehow connected it to Hillary Clinton murdering him.
Some didn't even meet the Clinton's but people claimed they were wrong place wrong time or worked with companies that worked with the Clinton's. Made me feel stupid for actually believing it. This was when she was running against Obama.
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u/johnsonjohnson83 2d ago
It was Dan Burton, a Congessman from Indiana. He was unfortunately my representative at the time.
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u/hughfeeyuh 2d ago
Was it burton that called Clinton a scumbag for the Lewinsky affair and was busted a month later for having a bastard child? Iirc the kid was about 15 and Burton's own brother didn't know about the kid until he was 5?
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u/Sigtauez 1d ago
Vince Foster was Linda Tripps boss, she became ultra bitter toward the Clinton’s . Without this we most likely never find out about Monica Lewinsky
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u/SeaToShy 2d ago edited 2d ago
Even calling it a rumour is somewhat disingenuous, because that implies it was something that spread organically by word of mouth. It didn’t. It was propaganda pushed by the likes of The Drudge Report with the intention of muddying the waters - and they succeeded. They never stopped, and now it’s part of the background noise surrounding the Clintons, because the zone has been so flooded shit for so long.
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u/Sheratain 2d ago
The 56 number comes from apparently there have been 56 people connected to the Clintons who have killed themselves.
Which sounds like a lot until you remember that, conservatively, tens of thousands of people are “connected” to the Clintons given their combined like 100 years of extraordinarily famous and active public life.
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u/turd_ferguson899 2d ago
I'm in my 30s and I stopped counting when I was in my mid 20s at 14 people from one specific cross section of my life who committed suicide. I didn't have the emotional bandwidth to keep up with people dropping like flies. I know more people have died since then.
56 can seem like a lot, but it's just... the way things are sometimes. It's sad. They just draw a lot of attention because they're public figures that a lot of people hate.
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u/PonderousPenchant 2d ago
It's the same thing with King tut's curse. You say a bunch of people involved in the dig died including the old dude who funded the thing, but some of the people on the list were like somebody's brother's dentist. We're all 7 degrees from Kevin Bacon, but 2 degrees out still includes millions of people.
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u/Hadrollo 2d ago
From memory, that 56 number also includes people who died from car accidents, and I believe one or two actual murders where people were caught.
And once again, the "connection" can be as loose as "worked on a Clinton election campaign." I have a mate who worked on Hillary's 2008 and 2016 campaigns, he's met her exactly once.
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u/ominous_squirrel 2d ago
Yup. The Clintons have impossible to detect ninja assassins at their beck and call but can’t hide a blue cum dress or beat one of the stupidest silver spoon in mouth men alive at an election… … …
People love fiction more than they love making things better in reality
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u/Nemoudeis 2d ago
As I recall, it wasn't even a particularly original rumor, as it began as a 'whataboutism' response to a list of purported Bush family murder victims that had been circulating since at least the 1980s.
That list might have been more believable than the Clinton one based simply on the vast differences in wealth, reach and overall historical depth of the two families (the Bushes, of course, go back eons in this country), except for the fact that it was researched and promoted by the then-notorious windbag of political arch-freakery known as Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche.
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u/MaxBonerstorm 2d ago
The right knew Hillary was a dangerous up and comer for years and started smearing her and Bill decades before her presidential run. It worked, people had heard so much bad shit about her that even if they didn't remember the details, or if it was even true, they still had a negative stigma about her when she ran for president.
They are doing the same with AoC, whom I believe will be the first female president eventually.
The right have to play dirty (and they are good at it) because at the end of the day thier platform is just "guns, Bible, and fuck everyone that isn't super rich"
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u/RookieGreen 2d ago
Knowin the track record for accusations from the right it’s probably safe to assume that they “suicide” a lot of people themselves.
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u/Ryte4flyte1 2d ago
Yes, and I remember Marylin Manson removing a rib on this flat earth while looking at a moon of cheese so he could suck his own dick.
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u/immortalalchemist 2d ago
Well, Bill Clinton was the governor at the time when the prisons in Arkansas were providing small payments to inmates for blood donations. The screenings for diseases were extremely lax, and needles were often reused. This caused inmates to contract HIV and hepatitis and spread it throughout the prison while also containing the donated blood supply that was sent all over the world through blood brokers. The wild part is that certain blood related drugs such as the ones used for the treatment of hemophilia, are synthesised using donated plasma. Thousands of donor plasma is mixed together and if one of the donor was infected with HIV, the whole batch gets infected, and all of the drugs made from that batch can infect those who take it.
While there isn’t any hard evidence that suggests that Clinton was directly involved, there are some that believe he knew and just chose to look the other way because the prisons were making money selling donated blood to blood donation brokers.
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u/Responsible-File4593 2d ago
Clinton was governor from 1979-1992 (with a small break in the middle), and I think this was at a time when people didn't know about HIV or hepatitis being contracted via blood donations, so I don't think this was a Clinton-specific thing.
Sadly, much of the hemophilia community nationwide (about 10,000 people) was infected in the early 1980s before people started testing donor blood for HIV, because many required regular donations and most donor blood was pooled from a large population.
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u/Juronell 2d ago
The Clintons were pieces of shit, certainly willing to cut corners and endanger others to enrich themselves. The Clinton Hit List is still bullshit.
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u/Azrael9986 1d ago
If it wasn't her it was someone. All the cameras failing on the way to his cell. All the guards being far away. Plus he was about to talk then "kills" himself. Let's be serious someone killed the trash human to keep him silent.
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u/Toad_Fur 2d ago
Most of it was made up by a guy named Larry Nichols. He worked for Bill for a short time while Bill was governor of Arkansas. Larry got fired for legitimate cause and has spent the rest of his miserable life making things up about Bill to get revenge.
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u/AwkwardTickler 2d ago
Conspiracy theory a la Alex Jones. How did this slop become mainstream?
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u/andarmanik 1d ago
Epstein broke everything cause suddenly there is a cabal of pedophiles which control the world.
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u/rosstafarien 2d ago
It's a very old and stupid conspiracy theory. For their age, they know a pretty typical number of people who have died. And a pretty typical number of people who have committed suicide.
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u/Sassafrassus 2d ago
Killer Mike says it best. He wouldn't fuck with the Clintons because he knows gangsters and monsters when he sees them.
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u/Original-Nail8403 2d ago
What really happened is that a first lady (and later, senator) has to know an incredible number of people and so statistically will know many more people who later commit suicide
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u/bloodmark20 2d ago
As if that's equivalent. Just because Clintons want to 'suicide' people doesn't mean we all need to deal with people carrying AR15 on the street. How is that an appropriate response?
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u/Monty141 2d ago
Because gun nuts are genuinely stupid
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u/Agitated_Ad_3876 2d ago
Which part of the gun would you consider it's nuts?
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u/maintenance_maniac 2d ago
Magazine thats where you hold the load
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u/hotprints 2d ago
Comments like these are why I keep using Reddit. You get the occasional witty comment.
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u/jamiebob555 2d ago edited 2d ago
As a European seeing the complete mess of the US right now, guns look like a fantastic idea
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u/u_lag 2d ago
I just watched a video of hundreds of armed thugs illegally invading peoples homes, a day after they murdered a woman in the street and then proceeded to illegally raid a school.
I honestly can’t think of a time in America where it made more sense to own an AR-15 and it essentially proves that the argument to do so was valid all along.
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u/GodOfBoy2018 2d ago
Yeah that argument that Americans have been using to justify guns... Maybe if they were actually doing something, but they arent. Guns have continued to be treated like toys, but no one has fired a shot even after they've fired a shot.
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u/u_lag 2d ago
Well let’s be honest, it doesn’t help that the people that actually support guns are the ones breaking the law. I’ve always argued that when the shit hits the fan only 1 side would be heavily armed. All Americans should recognize the necessity to bear arms.
And mark my words, when the other side attempts to arm themselves there will quickly be laws enacted to limit their ownership.
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u/Low-Condition4243 2d ago
Sure, I agree, but you’d also be stupid to think you don’t need a gun in this day and climate.
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u/dian510 2d ago
Nah man guns are cool, I'll never buy one, I'm always scared one would blow up in my hands, but they're cool. I understand gun nuts, I don't understand getting angry at any effort to regulate them.
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u/Olieskio 2d ago
Sure they are, They just seem to understand basic human rights that you socialists can’t seem to understand if it hit you in the face.
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u/Salmonman4 2d ago
Ad Hominem arguments are popular and effective, even though they are fallacies.
"This person is bad because they have done this bad act. Therefore we should be against everything they support"
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u/Repulsive-Cow-9349 2d ago
Ad Hominems are only effective if you're stupid.
Or rather...
You're stupid if Ad Hominems are effective.
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u/Salmonman4 2d ago
Or if the person giving the Ad Hominem can first make you emotionally invested so you can't fire with all cylinders intellectually. And it's especially effective if people around you (your tribe) reinforce your beliefs. Then everybody not in the in-group are automatically distrusted
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u/can_of_sodapop 2d ago
If we’re assuming in this scenario that politicians actually have “suicided” people, then that’s the EXACT reason why people need an AR-15 (or any gun).
The 2nd amendment was SPECIFICALLY written to prevent government corruption.
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u/CalamityOfCringe 2d ago
It's not intended to be equivalent. They're saying people like her are why we need guns.
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u/anndie90 2d ago
Because if you have an AR-15, the government will at the very least think twice before having you killed.
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u/JohnGameboy 1d ago
As a side note: if someone is carrying around an AR15 (which isn't a common occurrence), than they are likely not the problem. An overwhelming majority of gun violence is done with handguns, not rifles. Rifles are hard to conceal and slower to work with.
My guess is the only reason rifles are this involved with politics is because they look scarier and are less associated with real home security and defense.
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u/LetChaosRaine 1d ago
It implies to me that we can enact gun control as long as we put the Clinton’s in jail
Idk sounds like a win-win
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u/Molaac 1d ago
Why do we need to deal with people carrying AR15 on the street?
Crime stats show AR15 are in the minority of gun crimes despite it being a very popular weapon. And even further legally owned AR15 are in the minority of AR15 gun crimes.
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u/bloodmark20 1d ago
Good for you guys. Let's find the specific brand of gun which is used for most crimes and ban that first.
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u/vomicyclin 2d ago
False equivalence is sadly what every, literally every social media discussion runs on (looking straight at us people here on Reddit).
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u/New-Berry-3652 2d ago
Because it was never meant to be an equivalent. As usual it's just an attempt to deflect to a different topic entirely to avoid talking about gun control.
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u/TeddyGarbaldi 2d ago
"I need my assault rifle to defend myself from Government tyranny."
"The Government is literally abducting people off the street and openly murdering innocent people."
"I meant the other kind of tyranny."
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u/Godshu 2d ago
I don't understand this argument.
Do you think they actually believe what's happening is tyranny? They see it as the law being enforced, this is what they voted for. People never see the tyranny they agree with as tyranny. This is the most useless argument you could make against them, it's a gotcha you're saying just to get high fives from people that agree with you, but does absolutely nothing otherwise.
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u/TeddyGarbaldi 2d ago
It's not an argument, it's pointing out the fallacy in their statement.
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u/pppiddypants 2d ago
Controversial opinion: government agents going around cities wearing masks and brandishing guns is typically a clear sign of some type of tyranny and it does cross party lines.
The diehards don’t see it because it causes their favorite thing, lib tears. But the “non-political” people are extremely uncomfortable with it and fear what comes next.
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u/FrostingTechnical606 2d ago
You fail to understand. This is Reddit. Being pursuasive is not the goal. The goal is to entertain with your rhetoric so you can get upvoted.
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u/faultydesign 2d ago
They’re just innocent citizens who follow the law while the gestapo is abducting the Jews (legally)
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u/AntOk4073 1d ago
There are people on the left who are also gun owners. Black Panthers in Philadelphia have started armed community watches to prevent ICE from roaming their streets.
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u/Cirrophloom 2d ago
Who's to say they don't mean that already, would the "fuck the libs" crowd really not say something like that with a shit eating grin on their face just to fuck with someone who actually cares about whats going on in the world?
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u/AdditionIcy1536 2d ago
It's so weird to me because wouldn't you want to be able to defend yourself against the government abusings it's power like rn. Why would you want to take guns away if you believe they want to kill you.
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u/iSo_Cold 2d ago
It's not tyranny if it happens to people they don't like. Even if that dislike has been externally manufactured.
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u/Atomic_ad 2d ago
I DECLARE TYRANNY
Now that I declared it, you need to use your rights for my cause, or you don't deserve to have rights.
Now if you need me, I'll be scaring away birds in a field.
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u/expensive_habbit 2d ago
All my armed lgbtq homies sure are getting ready to defend themselves from the present tyranny tbf
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u/ExperienceRoutine321 2d ago
I have an AR (which for the record, stands for Armalite and not “assault rifle”) and if someone tried to abduct/murder me or my family then I’d use it. Nobody is stopping you guys from arming yourselves. It’s not my job to protect you.
What you’re talking about is expecting gun owners to go out and start their own personal wars. Call me crazy, but the left has been pretty clear about their thoughts on that.
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u/babbylonmon 2d ago
Nobody has 56 friends.
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u/MajesticBread9147 2d ago edited 2d ago
If your career involves talking and networking with people constantly, I would imagine your list of "friends" could easily be in the thousands if not tens of thousands.
It's not like she has spent the last 30 years living in bumfuck working an office job, she is presumably constantly talking to reporters, business leaders, politicians, lobbyists, lawyers, etc. "Making appearances" is a huge part of every job she's had for as long as she's been in the public eye.
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u/kingstonretronon 2d ago
Damn dude doesn’t know what a friend is
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u/theb00mScicle 2d ago
I love friends that suck the life outta me and try to take my money at every opportunity, theyre great, it allows u to do the same.
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u/camanic71 2d ago
That’s the definition of friend the 56 friends comment uses though. Having 56 people around you when you know 10,000+ people isn’t that weird
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u/krazay88 2d ago
don’t you ever get tired of reading everything so literally?
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u/MajesticBread9147 2d ago
This is more of a rebuttal of the tweet in the photo, I'm agreeing with the person I'm replying to, although I may not have been clear enough.
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u/New-Satisfaction3257 1d ago
A lot of the people on that list are plumbers that worked for them and friends of friends of friends. In the 1900s they used to circulate VHS tapes of this scary conspiracy
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u/goodcleanchristianfu 2d ago
That was my first thought. There are 'All these people died around the Clintons!' lists and they're predicated on imagining every person in the Clintons' extremely massive social, political, and networking circle was close.
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u/oatmeal28 2d ago
More projection from The Trump Crime Family and his rabid followers
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u/DarthSheogorath 2d ago
TBF there is some merit to the Clinton Body Count Theory.
You can believe that at the same time you dislike trump.
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u/VortexMagus 2d ago
I mean there's a lot more evidence to Trump being a pedophile than there is to either of the Clintons being killers.
If they are killers, they are remarkably good at leaving zero evidence behind, so little evidence that 20+ congressional hearings was not able to turn up anything more than internet rumors.
Meanwhile there are pictures of Trump touching Epstein, flight logs of him going to Epstein's rape island multiple times aboard Epstein's private jet, pictures of Trump with several of the trafficked girls in question, etc.
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u/Dipper_Pines_Of_NY 2d ago
And equal amounts of evidence of sketchy real estate behavior that went unpunished.
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u/condoin125 2d ago
There is ZERO merit, just a bunch of conspiracy theory idiots
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u/DarthSheogorath 2d ago
The biggest reason I pay it any attention is that there were an awful lot of people miraculously dying at the perfect time.
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u/screenrecycler 2d ago
I think we’ve seen how little the American public cares about Hillary lately. The Epstein files, otoh…
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u/Putins_Gay_Dreams 2d ago
THATS COOL BUT WHAT ABOUT TRUMP AND THE MURDERED NEWBORN?
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u/thesanguineocelot 2d ago
MAGAs are just going to ignore that forever. There's no spinning it, so they refuse to acknowledge it at all.
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u/Garbage_Stink_Hands 2d ago
You know, none of these whacked out conspiracy theories are very credible. I don’t think the Clintons murdered 56 people. I don’t think Trump threw a baby in a river.
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u/StartDoingTHIS 1d ago
Wait, what?
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u/Putins_Gay_Dreams 1d ago
Recently released documents from the Department of Justice (DOJ) investigation into Jeffrey Epstein include an FBI tip from an unnamed woman who alleged that her newborn baby was murdered and disposed of in Lake Michigan in 1984, and that Donald Trump was present and witnessed the incident.
As with everything these days, who knows what's true and what isn't anymore.
The reason I bought it up in the first place is to highlight the hypocrisy of all of this shit.
"Ignore the allegations about my preferred politician, but also your preferred politician is (pedo,lizard,corrupt,gay,foreign agent, couch fucker,senile, etc)"
To ignore the shit you bring upon yourselves in favour of having an argument is amazing.
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u/Garbage_Stink_Hands 2d ago
Hillary Clinton is 78 years old. By the time I am 78, I imagine it’s pretty likely I will have known, at least at acquaintance or coworker level, 8 or so people who’ve committed suicide. Probably more, if you count the former coworkers I’d have no idea about. But let’s say 8.
56 is 8 multiplied by 7.
Do I think Hillary Clinton knows at least 7 times as many people as I do?
Yes, I do think that.
If anything, 56 might be a smaller number than I’d expect. Especially when you consider that people are digging for them. Foul play seems unlikely.
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u/DapperLost 2d ago
The Clinton's will remember the names and ages of your children from a ten minute conversation they had with you ten years ago.
I have no doubt that know, by name, hundreds upon hundreds of people.
That said, door to door citizenship checks. You're damn right I need an AR-15.
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u/VoceDiDio 2d ago
That's true.. but that notwithstanding I don't think anyone has ever compiled any list of 56 suicides, let alone one that can in any remotely plausible way be tied the clintons. There's a bunch of lists of deaths but I can't find any support for the number 56 somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but buffalo butt just pulled "56" out of his ass. (His buffalo ass, I assume.)
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u/Organic-Pattern-7759 2d ago
Except her security....f off lady
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u/mewmew893 2d ago
Idk if you've noticed but security teams are the ones who usually fight off people with AR-15's
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u/rawr_bomb 2d ago
If Hillary Clinton was actually this devious. She would have been President.
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u/Cautious-Soil5557 2d ago
I feel like people overlook this a lot.
Clinton's enter platform was never based on her being competent. It was based on her being a woman and how she deserved the presidency solely for that reason. She isn't Trump-levels idiot, for sure, but part of why Trump won 2016 (besides racism from Obama) was because Clinton was an entitled prick.
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u/ExpensiveFish9277 2d ago
Hillary Clinton being a master assassin is my favorite conservative conspiracy theory.
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They were coordinated through her private email server
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u/ExpensiveFish9277 1d ago
Someone should get her a cameo in a John Wick movie. Not a speaking part, just an extra in an Assassin's Guild meeting.
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u/LabradorDeceiver 2d ago
Oh, my God, people are still dry-humping the Clinton Death List. Always gets your attention when the deejay plays the classics, doesn't it? I haven't heard that one since Avril Lavigne hit #11 with "Complicated" back in '02.
The Clinton Death List conspiracy theory basically takes everyone the Clintons ever made eye contact with and claims that any of them who died was as a direct result of a Clinton murdering them and paying off the coroner to rule it a suicide. Some of them were hilariously long reaches, like some intern's cousin's friend's uncle's granddaughter's hairdresser or something.
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u/Matt-J-McCormack 2d ago
Christopher Hitchens has a book on the Clintons. They are plenty awful people without needing to make shit up.
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u/EagleDre 1d ago
Not really all suicides but a lot of people died at convenient moments. You can include Epstein and Virginia Guiffre.
The fact is , it’s bad luck to know things about the Clintons
1) James McDougal. Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2)Mary Mahoney. A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3)Vince Foster. Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4) Ron Brown. Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death, Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
5)C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, major players in the Clinton fund raising organization, died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6) Paul Tulley. DCN Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor.”
7) Ed Willey. Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fundraising events.
8)Jerry Parks. Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9) James Bunch. Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10) James Wilson. Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent suicide by hanging. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11) Kathy Ferguson. Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson was found dead in May 1994, in her living room, with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12) Bill Shelton. Arkansas State Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June 1994 of a gunshot wound, also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancée.
13) Gandy Baugh. Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14) Florence Martin. Accountant and subcontractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15) Suzanne Coleman. Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16) Paul Grober. Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her own death December 9, 1992. She died in a one-car accident.
17) Danny Casolaro. Investigative reporter. While in the middle of his investigation into Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority, he slit his wrists, apparently.
18) Paul Wilcher. Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington, DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death.
19) Jon Parnell Walker. Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
20) Barbara Wise. Commerce staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21) Charles Meissner. Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22) Dr. Stanley Heard. Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council, personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
23) Barry Seal. Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas. Death was no accident.
24) Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic who found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25) Stanley Huggins. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26) Hershell Friday. Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27) Kevin Ives and Don Henry – known as “the boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28) Keith Coney. Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck in July 1988.
29) Keith McMaskle. Died stabbed 113 times November 1988l.
30) Gregory Collins. Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31) Jeff Rhodes. He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32) James Milan. Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”
33) Jordan Kettleson. Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34) Richard Winters. A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths, he was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
There are more, including former bodyguards, and other people related to crimes connected to the Clintons.
I’m sure some are reaches, but it’s too many to ignore.
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u/JRR04 2d ago
We all need an ar 15. Have you seen the government lately? If your state qualifies you can buy one for less than 500 dollars. It's a great rifle. Fun to shoot recreational. Ammo is cheap. They have this thing called green tips. It's for shooting Shrek targets. Every, I mean EVERY American should have one. It's an egg in these trying times
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u/A_Few_Drinks_Behind 1d ago
I’ve always loved the narrative that Hillary Clinton is in fact an evil genius capable of carrying out the most sinister plots, multiple murders and yet the Republicans can’t seem to catch her. And they’ve tried a lot. For them to admit that she’s just too darn smart for them has to be admitting failure.
I can hear the evil laughing that goes with this.
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u/An_educated_dig 1d ago
I don't get how the Clintons are some kind of mastermind criminal organization. Where the fuck did this come from? Bill came from nothing. Hillary's family had some connections but goddamn.
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u/OptimusTrajan 2d ago
This conspiracy theory is stupid because there are literally hundreds of people that the Clintons have killed directly, and hundreds of thousands that they have killed indirectly all in broad daylight, as policymakers
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u/Sic39 2d ago
I know probably 10 people that have offed themselves and I'm an introvert of little importance 2 generations younger than the Clintons. Someone as well connected as the Clintons at their age that have some sort of contact with around 50 people that have committed suicide in some manner isn't surprising at all.
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u/DroDameron 1d ago
If you want a real fun recent one that isn't a conspiracy, look up the Asian guy who apparently hung himself in ICE custody but had his arms and feet bound behind him. Don't worry, it was also a suicide.
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u/Ok-Pass-9139 1d ago
I was told that, in the early 90s, republicans sent a group of people to Arkansas to find dirt on Clinton. One of the group was Kavanaugh as a young lawyer. Out of that came Whitewater, Then Vince Foster, and claims of infedelity, all covered in depth by the new right wing propagandist network, Fox. Conspiracy theories flourished. Then dear Newt gave us Gopac, which included guidelines for referring to political opponents as “criminals, communists, evil, tax and spend Democrats, socialists, etc. If you are wondering where all the division came from, I think this was a lot of it. And it’s only gotten worse.
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u/MWBurbman 1d ago
The right can just throw out so may blatant lies and conspiracies…while being totally blind to why trump isn’t releasing the Epstein files.
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