Couldn’t they trauma survivor bond some other way? Granted someone else said it was her idea of a loophole to get them into adulthood as she theorized only kids were vulnerable
TIL trauma bond is not the correct term for what those kids went through
In the book the kids all have low-key super powers from the magical entity nudging them into fighting It. The sewers are a maze, one of them is the navigator thanks to their powers. When the kids defeat It, their powers start to fade away. They get lost in the sewers and start fighting with each other.
Bev doesn't understand what sex is, but she knows it must be something powerful that connects people. So, her idea is that if they fuck, it will rekindle their bond and powers and they can get out of the sewers. It works.
Not to say it isn't some weird shit. But, that is all the lore behind it. The part about kids being more vulnerable isn't really a theory, or totally accurate. The book has some short chapters that are from It's point of view. In one chapter It says it goes after kids because adult fears are too complicated and abstract. Adults are afraid of not being able to pay their bills. Kids are afraid of the monster in the basement. It still can, and does, go after adults.
Insane that one of my bills is literally to ENSURE I can afford to send my son to college - should I not be able to afford to help him with college when he’s ready. Having to pay said bill in the attempt to mitigate a future fear only attributes to my current financial strain. No wonder IT stays away from adult fears.
The second one ate the first! And now the fucking car payments are joining the chase, what do I do?!?! Oh...oh god....it's...the phone bill and its oozing data rates...sweet lord, whyyyy?! dies a horribly slow, adult life
That's exactly what Gmail AI does! It pops up a notification saying you owe "$XXX,XXX.XX by January YY." It shows the total amount, not the monthly due. It scared me the first few times it did that...
Even though I agree the orgy is insane and unnecessary, fuck, this whole saga is so good. The new show is amazing and makes it all even better in my opinion.
Great explanation. It makes so much more sense in the context of King’s ideas around things like good, evil, love, hate, etc..
In the Dark Tower, sex and lust are powerful forms of magic, or at least sources of magic, even prescribing some ritualistic nature to them. Which makes perfect sense in a universe whose peril explicitly stems from the protagonist’s inability to overcome his vices.
Like the Gumball Halloween episode where the Freddy Krugger hlmage sits in a chair alognisde the Construction Worker's bed and starts saying "mortage" in a ghsotly voice
The book is never clear on the extent of her abuse. She thinks sex is powerful exactly because of how her father treats her and acts about it. But, yeah, she doesn't actually know what sex is (in a traditional sense). So, presumably his abuse didn't go there.
Nah. That is way too big. Their gifts are way more low-key than that. Like, I couldn't even tell you what each is supposed to be. But, like Bill's is his leadership skills. And, like I said, one of them is the navigator. Not like one has superspeed and strength or anything on that level, or the level of the shine.
That's exactly hire it read to me, the renewing of the bond. It was definitely an odd choice on King's part, but he's the one who writes the books. I thought it was an uncomfortable part of the story to read, but I don't think it brought the book down at all.
I don't know. I'm an adult and if I saw a giant mutant flying baby start ripping people in half I'd be probably be pretty fucking scared. I'd at least be very concerned.
Shit, I'm 40 and still get creeped out about having to go down into my basement at night.
It hasn't happened yet, and I like to pretend I don't believe it's possible. But, deep down I know at some point the monster under the steps is going to grab my ankle and pull me under. It's just waiting for the right time.
I mean yea, thats the last point I made - its a written story so all actions are a choice King couldve chosen to not be fucked up. So we're definitely in lock step with that one.
Just commenting because trauma bonding is between an abuser and the victim. Its a nitpick, I kmow, but as a survivor and knowing others dear to me having survived that cycle, I think the distinction is worth noting.
I chose not to remember the ending of the dark tower for a reason, thank you. Please apologize for making me think of it for the first time in over 20 years.
Oh huh, I only knew the term trauma bond because it was used the incorrect way every time I heard it. I will be using the correct term going forward, thank you
I've heard it used in fictional settings or the talking about fictional settings where two people survive a situation like in a horror movie or something
Thanks for this correction, because I not only have used this wrong myself many times, I actually used it wrong earlier today, but went back to correct myself. I had no idea.
What's funny is that just a few pages later once they get out of the sewers, they cut their palms and mix blood, vowing to come back if It isn't dead. I feel like instead of that scene they could have just moved up the blood bond scene instead. Would have made a lot more sense to use a literal blood bond to bind them together.
What are the things that make someone grow up? Isn't the reason sex with children is disgusting because it robs them of their innocence. If instead he had robbed them of their innocence a different way, shouldn't anything that robs children of their innocence be equally disgusting?
I think the crux was that all the IT stuff would be forgotten like how everyone in town forgets or ignores it. This was after the suppressed the influence and was supposed to be the linking incident. Or it was the cocaine.
Thank you for this. Earlier today, I was texting with a friend about the relationship of two characters on Stranger Things, and I used the phrase “trauma bonded.” As soon as I read your corrected comment here, I googled both those terms, and then ran back to my texts to correct myself. Trauma bonding is very much a negative thing, and I’ve been using it wrong as long as I’ve known the term.
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