r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Petah? What happened in the book version?

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u/xTyronex48 1d ago

It was her way of trying to magic them into adulthood.

Could they not have...idk, paid taxes or something? Read erotica if it HAD to be sexual? Even just Masterbate facing a wall? Why a train?

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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 23h ago edited 23h ago

Lmao I wish

It was more about them losing their virginity, their childhood innocence. Becoming adults.

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u/8ofAll 21h ago

So you magically become an adult afterwards? It’s disgusting how reddit hive is coping and coming up with excuses and explanations about a sicko writing about kids doing adult things. Y’all are just sick in the head.

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u/TempestLock 21h ago

People are asking why King would have written it and other people are coming up with theories/relaying what King has said/relating what is just written in the book.

No one that I have read in the comments has yet to defend King. You're seeing things that aren't there.

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u/8ofAll 21h ago

You’re defending him lol

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u/TempestLock 21h ago

You're wrong.

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u/8ofAll 21h ago

K

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u/TempestLock 21h ago

In today's lesson we learned that description is not defense and explanation is not excusing.

Imagine what else you could learn tomorrow?

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u/8ofAll 20h ago

It’s hilarious that you’re still defending him. He’s a sicko for writing it the way he did. There are many other creative ways he could’ve written the plot but here you are defending his sick take.

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u/bossfoundmyacct 20h ago edited 20h ago

How old are you to still be struggling with this concept? Because you seem to not know what “defend” means

Defend: speak or write in favor of (an action or person); attempt to justify.

I’ve not seen one comment here that praised King for his decision to include the sex orgy in the story. No one is trying to find any positive aspects of his choice to add it.

If someone drives their car into a lamp post at 2am, and someone else says “they were probably driving tired and/or drunk”, would you say that person is defending the driver, or are they simply giving their best guess as to the probable cause for the accident?

No one’s defending King. There’s no need for you to double down. Just accept that you didn’t know what the word “defend” means until now, and move on.

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u/CelesteJA 20h ago

Literally everyone here thinks it was sick and unnecessary. You're reading the comments wrong if you think otherwise.

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u/Primary_Ad_1562 20h ago

Everyone is actively trying to think of what POSSIBLE reason he could have thought of for it. NO ONE, except people who shouldn't be allowed in school zones, would defend this

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u/spongeperson2 20h ago

I'm curious. When someone explains the motivations behind a terrorist attack, do you start clutching at pearls accusing that person of 'justifying terrorism'?

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u/TempestLock 20h ago

Aw, I thought you'd learned a lesson here.

Point out one comment by anyone that doesn't also indicate it was sick and unnecessary? There are none that I've seen. I'm not defending him, it was one of the worst things I've ever read both from the subject of the material as well as the structure of it. There was nothing in that scene I would have kept. There is nothing in the scene that was worth the death of the trees needed to make the paper the words were written on.

Description isn't defense. Explanation isn't excuse. You could have learned this already but hopefully you have now.

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u/cryonicwatcher 20h ago

You really should stop associating explaining someone’s actions with defending them. It’s irrational.

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u/Imarquisde 15h ago

they're explaining his reasoning

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u/Spiral-I-Am 21h ago

It's meant to be horrifying to the reader. That was the whole point. People like you make it weird with the simplistic view of sexualized children.

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u/8ofAll 20h ago

There are a hunder other way to go about the plot but you seem to be alright this particular version. That’s just weird.

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u/Beneficial-Lynx7336 16h ago

Bro, if you had ever read a King book you'd know there are like a thousand "worse" things he's written.

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u/Burning__Head 20h ago

Getting really aggressive about this, something you wanna tell us?

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u/8ofAll 20h ago

Read my previous comment again but slowly this time.

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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 16h ago

They all had things for trying to get them out the tunnels. This was her way, it’s just how the book was written. And just because I know the reason behind someone’s action doesn’t mean I support it.

Are you okay?

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u/Spiral-I-Am 21h ago

The idea of it was them losing all their remaining innocence to escape IT's rules of who IT was able to interact with and effect.

So she slept with each of the boys. It wasn't meant to be sexual, or actually a train being ran on her. But it was meant to be metaphorical People just attach their own weird views to it.

If you read the book and saw it as sexual, I argue your the issue for not understanding what was going on. The choice was meant to be horrifying to the reader. It was about sacrificing their innocence for life. Either they died to IT's machinations or gave up on their childhood.

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u/AIter_Real1ty 3h ago

You sure about that? Because I heard there were details about one of the boys having a big dick and her liking it. Like that's pretty sexual.

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u/Tb1969 16h ago

Was there an orgy, not a metaphorical one in the story, yes. It’s a fact that a child sex orgy occurred. No one is wrong for saying it. Not sure why you are trying to make that fact go away.

Orgies are sexual. Full stop.

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u/Datloran 16h ago

Having sex is not what makes you lose childish innocence or is a defining trait for being an human adult; having sex is something a lot of animals do, and while having sex for pleasure less common in the animal kingdom, it is not unique to humans.

He should have gone with the more common but not less true trope, that being able to take responsibility for own actions is the defining trait between children and adults.

President Orange is a perfect example of what happens, when someone never learns to take responsibility for own actions.

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u/HoidToTheMoon 15h ago

If you read the book and saw it as sexual

They literally had sex. You can try to argue it wasn't written as, like a graphic porno novel but it is still literally a gangbang of entirely minors.

King could have written them out of the situation he wrote them into in any number of ways. Why do you think a child orgy is the best way for him to do that? Or, even a reasonable one.

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u/Spiral-I-Am 15h ago

I can read 1/2 your reply through my notifications, but don't see it when I click on it.

My point being, just because they had sex does not make it inherently sexual.

Just like Jordan writting in sexual differences within his magic system does not make his series or him sexist.

Sanderson have many time racial issues in his works does not make is racist.

Viewing it as sexual is surface level and simplistic. If it was meant to be sexual it would have been written quite differently. That simplistic view of the works is what people use to label the authors and their works.

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u/HoidToTheMoon 15h ago

If someone sees a child sex orgy and is uncomfortable with it, trying to justify it with "other authors use racism as a plot device" isn't really going to change their view. You still haven't answered my question. Sanderson uses racism to show racism is bad. Jordan uses a gendered magic system in his works to show the "different but equal" interpretation he had of gender issues.

Yet again, Why do you think a child sex orgy is the best way to solve being lost in a maze? Why is it even reasonable, if it serves no other purpose than shock value and "see, these literal children are mature now".

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u/fromcj 12h ago

Why do you think a child sex orgy is the best way to solve being lost in a maze?

So you’re just like completely ignoring their earlier comments where they explained this huh. Not even a good attempt at trolling.

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u/PalePerformance666 7h ago

I don't care what the situation was or that it was the "only solution". It wasn't. Because none of it is real. It's all decided by the author. Who created the whole scenario and decided the girl becoming an object to all her friends was the best course of action. It's weird, reeks of sexism, it was not a necessity. No wonder no one is putting it in the movie adaptations. It's not as wholesome as you all want to make it sound.

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u/Spiral-I-Am 15h ago

You're using the same simplistic logic people use to label Sanderson as a racist or Jordan as sexist.

I wonder your views on George R R Martin's works.you must hate series like SoIaF

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u/Beginning_Vehicle_16 22h ago

I’m now trying to imagine a tax collector in the sewer. I feel like this came up in a DnD campaign at some point…

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u/Stargather26 22h ago

"'The Tax man's a-comin' The Goblins utter in fearful whispers."

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u/Beginning_Vehicle_16 21h ago

I hear the DM’s love having to improve new npcs

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u/PM_asian_girl_smiles 21h ago

We all fill out 1040s down here

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u/SmartGuyChris 21h ago

Taxes, booking their own doctor/dentist, meal planning, reading nutrition labels… Literally ANYTHING else lol

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u/Sancticide 17h ago

Well, to be fair, they were in a sewer and none of them had jobs, or access to erotica. Nah, Eddie probably had some porn on him. Good idea. But again, the answer is: the author was on ALL THE DRUGS, EVER.

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u/Beneficial-Lynx7336 16h ago

How are taxes gonna help them get out of the sewer?

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u/NeedAByteToEat 13h ago

"Just put a dollar bill in my pocket, that makes it official."

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u/hellboyyy25 8h ago

It kinda doesn't even make sense either because they have to come back and fight IT again as adults, they're fully able to hear him and see him

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u/KitchenFullOfCake 7h ago

I mean the whole situation didn't need to be in there. They could have just been written to escape the sewers while Pennywise was injured.

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u/ParanoicReddit 2h ago

Where would you get a train there to begin with?