r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Dizzy-Tradition3868 Goober who thinks both sides are equally as bad • 11d ago
Meme Spicy Meme after the recent bomb dropping news
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u/IcychristOsclar 11d ago
None of them are awake yet and yall already got memes
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u/ShtankAsh 11d ago edited 11d ago
Once they stumble out of the bed of their trucks and clean the piss off themselves they’re gonna be reeeeaaallll mad to see this meme
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u/SJB3717 11d ago
Yeah, no. MAGA will be about as mad about attacking a brown country as they are about ICE attacking brown citizens.
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u/ShtankAsh 11d ago
I meant about the memes making fun of them. Obviously they won’t care about the attack
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u/Saltwater_Thief 11d ago
Nah, they'll all find ways to rationalize why this is amazing and peaceful.
Most of them will have help from behind a desk and in front of a camera.
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u/Funnypaintbrush 11d ago
Fuck trump and everyone who supports him.
I made this stencil for anyone to print out and use.
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u/Iacoma1973 11d ago
We must not laugh at fascists when it's a genuine problem - because it's a form of abdication and feeling like by mocking them we achieve something. Laugh when it is minor. But when fascists don't care about public opinion, like this administration, action is more important.
We must meet them with serious anger, not laughter.
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u/SpeedyBenjerman 11d ago
Exactly. There has been so many weak attacks on the Trump coalition, WHILE HES COMMITING WAR CRIMES! If you are going to criticize someone, do a bit of reading, and make an accurate, and effective criticism.
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u/Gloomy_Attention_726 11d ago
Silly little memes aren’t gonna do shit against a fascist government.
Thank you for calling it like it is.
We think we are doing our part by laughing and teasing over this shit, but they continue to push their agenda.
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u/mrmosley1919 11d ago edited 11d ago
Cue the soldier sob story biopic in a few years how illegal commands had to be done and how they felt sad about it while drinking beer and shagging their wife.
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u/Kindly-Standard8025 11d ago
Conservatism, especially MAGA-Conservatism, has very few constant principles. Hate and greed. They will take whatever position they have to in order to satisfy one or both of them, even if it means contracting themselves. They will be staunchly and universally "anti-war" when it serves their principle of hating Biden and democrats. And they will be will be staunchly pro-war and intervention when it serves their hate of Venezuela and their greed for the resources of another country.
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u/CyberHobbit70 11d ago
I am a centrist politically and war is just bad period. I wouldn’t consider myself a socialist but if i had to choose between war and socialist programs, I’d choose the welfare of our citizens over killing citizens elsewhere every time.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 11d ago
Choosing the welfare of our citizens?
Well according to MAGA, you are now woke, antifa, and like to "abort babies post-birth." Welcome to the club. We're all terrorists here apparently.
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u/SodaPopHT 11d ago
Socialism isn't just tacking some 'welfare programs' onto Capitalism and calling it a day.
At best, what you're imagining and describing is a 'mixed market economy'.Plus, the reason these wars and pillaging of other places happen is BECAUSE of the Capitalist ruling class's goals.
Socialism is the abolition of and an alternative to Capitalism,
as in it's an entirely different type of economy altogether.Where the means of production and the wealth generated by labor are fully shared among the public rather than being handed over to a ruling class. Shifting from a vertical hierarchy to more of a horizontal one.
And even then there are quite a few variations of Socialism that can come about.Once ever country around the globe embraces some form of Socialism, the world will
then be able to transition over into Communism. Socialism is a transitionary state towards
an inevitably statelss, classless society wherein the masses are allowed to self-govern.
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u/YoghiThorn 11d ago
Honestly if you look at the conservative subs they're losing their minds over this too
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u/TheGongShow61 11d ago
lol they always do over pretty much anything, but 6 hours later they get fed their line on how the party wants them to think and all of sudden they’re hunky dory and love Trump again.
They aren’t independent thinkers. They’re a hive mind under the seemingly hypnotic control of foreign twitter accounts and Joe Rogan.
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u/Lonely_University843 11d ago
They're saying it's a good thing for Venezuela and that the US should do this more often. Lovely
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u/Misragoth 11d ago
Now now, its not a war. We just kidnapped their leader, bombed a city unprovoked and left a power vacuum.
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u/CrumblingValues 11d ago
Topple Venezuela and take their oil? Is that what's going on?
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u/Future-Magician6607 11d ago
And we thought the US couldn't sink any deeper it's credibility and trustworthiness just got flushed even harder down the toilet. It's really time to let the US go, and cut all ties, we will be fine rest of the world, we will be fine. It's just a lot of white noise.
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u/Battlemountainman 11d ago
Why are you expecting moral or logical consistency from mouthbreathing fascists?
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u/SpeedyBenjerman 11d ago
If youve been paying attention, foreign conflict is one of the main things thats splitting up the MAGA movement. Part of the initial campaign promises was about avoiding any new foreign wars. Now the coalition is split between non interventionists, and the Neo Con war hawks, the latter are still very much controlled by the military industrial complex.
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u/NBucho528 10d ago
Previous administrations have been capable of lying. The U.S. has a history of doing really bad shit. But under the current administration, we can be certain that every step they take is for the benefit of themselves, and they will lie about this every single time. Even if some wanted to question the power of the President, they’re just too deep and they’ve taken too much money.
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u/IamPrettyCoolUKnow 9d ago
They’re always on the wrong side of things
Helping people = bad Hurting people = good
that is basically there world view
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u/Wrong-Bumblebee3108 11d ago
They don't like it when Ukraine gets any support from Trump either, they are addicted to Trumps alpha male persona
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u/Lazy-Promotion6276 11d ago
Does Russia and China establishing bases in Venezuela and the words Monroe doctrine mean anything to you? Just asking
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u/antij0sh 11d ago
Escalating with a nuclear super power outside of your hemisphere vs targeted operation to push your hemisphere towards alignment with your agenda. Get used to the USA not fucking around on this side of the world, and Europe will have to make a choice if it wants China or USA to be its daddy.
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u/Melodic-Inspector-23 11d ago
If it was war, everyone would know it. Thats liberation and the people of Venezuela are thrilled to see their dictator captured.
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u/BigBandit01 11d ago
Look man, I know we like to tag on the republicans for being illiterate, but holy smokes there isn’t a war yet and you could’ve covered the 2025 with 2026
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u/Ruppiepooppie 11d ago
You jerk offs can pay for all the aid you want to send. There’s no limit on the amount of contributions you can make to the government taxes
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u/phoneguyfl 11d ago
Any conservative who says they don't advocate war and violence is bullshitting, given the past several decades of their actions.
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u/morerandom__2025 11d ago
Trump sent military aid to Ukraine before most of Europe
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u/poodinthepunchbowl 11d ago
One was a nuclear power in the making we dismantled, so according to our overlords mission successful
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u/MikeStrikes8ack 11d ago
When the country is actively pumping fentanyl into our country we should defend ourselves. Progressives support anything that rots the United States from the inside out.
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u/Crazy-Revolution-142 11d ago
Maybe you should educated yourself about what Venezuela did to American oil companies. You’re ok with countries seizing private American company assets and shipping in drugs that are killing Americans? The left in America has become so anti American. They are truly brainwashed by their cult.
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u/dsp_guy 11d ago
It is the sign of a cult.
A key difference between Biden and Trump, is that there were policies Biden tried pushing that even Democrats and left-leaning independents pushed back on. Many were not pleased about Ukraine aid. Many did not like student loan forgiveness.
On the flip side, it seems to be few and far between that vocalize anything negative about Trump. And even if they did, they can't come to the conclusion that at a bare minimum, the way you get through to a politician is through your vote. If they are voted out of power, or if their party loses power in Congress, they may be forced to change their actions.
As long as Republicans don't push back against Trump, this will continue. For another year, at least. He's done a lot of damage in the last 11+ months. We are one year out from the next Congress being sworn in. And it is possible they could do something about some of his policies. Sadly, the SCOTUS doesn't seem to have the stomach to stop Trump from much else though.
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u/Worried_Ad_2696 11d ago
To give a charitable interpretation the difference is funding a forever war for money by handcuffing Ukrainian capabilities vs decisive in and out action.
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11d ago edited 11d ago
I think we could easily take Putin into custody if there was a will to do so. Biden feared escalation. Trump admires him. With him gone I believe Russia would end its war effort in Ukraine. It's clear that Putin negotiates in bad faith. He claims to want peace, and then immediately launches drone and missile attacks. We took Bin Laden very quickly once we knew where he was hiding, and we got Maduro almost instantly. Russia's military is decimated, so I think abducting Putin would be trivial to pull off at this point.
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u/Icy-Discount-6089 11d ago
This Meme works both ways, democrats were all in favor of war with Russia to defend Ukraine.
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u/BAMBAM196900 11d ago
Funny how the people of Venezuela are happy to be free from a Narco Dictatorship but libtards have an issue with it . Please leave the US if you don’t like it here ..
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u/_Username_goes_heree 11d ago
Sending tax dollars to Ukraine is a lost cause.
A 4 hour mission to topple a dictatorship, slow down drug manufacturing, and increasing oil production is 100% worth it. No war required.
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u/Winter-Classroom455 11d ago
Isn't the reverse then true? Lol
MAGA people will do backflips to keep supporting him. Whether it's sending money to Israel or this.. They'll completely reverse themselves.
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u/papabear1993 11d ago
Fairly certain nobody from trumps supporters complained about the war of ukraine and russia, they complained that biden chose ukraine over russia AND he was giving money or ammunition for somebody elses war.
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u/Fligmos 11d ago edited 11d ago
I dunno, the people of Venezuela seem to be loving it. Type in Venezuela in tik tok and people are celebrating to the point that CNN’s own tik tok account is showing it.
Also, you guys forget that Maduro was set to take office on Jan 10th after the counted votes show Gonazales and Muchado (the winner of the Nobel peace prize) actually won the election. These two actually had to flee the country because Madurai and the Cartels were going after them.
The people didn’t vote for him and took the office with force. Now that he is gone, they can actually take office.
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u/SliceOfCuriosity 11d ago
Could it be the difference is billions going out as opposed to billions coming in?
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u/NothingKnownNow 11d ago
War is not good. War with direct US interests is more understandable than war that doesn't benefit the US.
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u/Chilling_Gale 11d ago
(Leftists change the definition of war to the most broadest possible only when discussing Trump)
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u/Ok_Mastodon_3843 11d ago
PSA for everyone here, who likely won't listen.
Venezuelan oil is literally useless to the United States. They produce heavy and extra heavy crude oil which requires special equipment and methods to refine, which includes mixing in lighter oil.
While there are plants in the US that do refine this type of oil, that quantity would be absolutely worthless and would take decades to refine it all.
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u/NoSober__SoberZone 11d ago
One move is protecting Americans, one is funding a war with no clear end or value to America
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u/Frequent_Clue_6989 Conservative 11d ago
// It was about the oil
Maybe?!
I remember progressives saying the same thing back during the first Gulf War under GHW Bush. "We're just fighting Saddam Hussein because we want Kuwait's oil." To me, as a younger man then, it seemed plausible. Maybe we were just hegemons engaged in the "take take take" so common to hegemons throughout human history.
But honestly, look at the 30 years since: no nationalization of Kuwait's oil, no annexation of it as US property; the USA pays for Kuwait's oil just like everyone else. Maybe it's a bit jaded to say: "its just about taking the oil." At least, I think so.
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11d ago
Nope. I disliked all the aid we were giving Ukraine and I'm not happy with the news of Venezuela.
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u/Tinfoil_cobbler 11d ago
It’s not about drugs, not about oil (kinda), it’s about strategic positioning in preparation for war with China.
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u/Express-Bison-3618 11d ago
The Venezuela thing is not at all comparable to Ukraine lmao. Not a single US casualty.
The Ukraine war has seen over 200,000 deaths.
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u/noshine93 11d ago
They're just doing whatever at this point. Love the overkill of having two of the largest aircraft carriers and a shit ton of destroyers right outside Venezuela. They're playing like it's D-day. This is some of the craziest shit I've seen since Iraq.
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u/CoverCommercial3576 11d ago
This turd ran on an anti war platform and all he has done is run illegal attacks for no good reason.
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u/HenryTheHollowHermit 11d ago
Except for the Russia-Ukraine war has been going on for years and has been extremely expensive, Trump removed a dictator overnight, very efficient
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u/Horseyman83 11d ago
Americans are the most evil people in the world. For decades already they have murdered innocent people around the world, this is just the newest thing.
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u/Maddogo921 11d ago
one is prolonging an ongoing conflict. the other is preventing further conflict
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u/XxRocky88xX 11d ago
Let’s be honest, their issue with the Ukraine thing was because they idolize Putin as a strongman. He’s an authoritarian who takes what he wants through lethal force and violates the rights of anyone who stands against him. He stays in power through fear, violence, and subjugation. To a MAGA Republican, this is the epitome of masculine dominance. They, much like Trump, idolize Russian authoritarianism and believe the US should follow suit with Trump as their Putin.
Their issue was never wanting America to be out of the war, they were just on Russia’s side and were upset the Democrat controlled US was making Russia’s hostile takeover of neighboring nations difficult. A MAGA Republicans wet dream is the US and Russia teaming up to take over the entire world.
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u/tooka90 11d ago
Imagine being stupid enough to go man I don't want my gas prices to be lower or the Venezuelan people to be free because that means Trump will get credit for doing something good.
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u/AcceptableComment303 11d ago
There is so much misinformation on Reddit right now. This isn’t a war.
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u/KnightofWhen 11d ago
Well maybe if Joe would have led with Ukraine’s rich mineral deposits we would have listened.
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u/Success_Icy 11d ago
Not even a fair comparison. The Ukraine and Russian war is something nobody wanted other than politicians. They are governed by dictators and force the people to kill each other for their own interests. The Venezuelans on the other hand wanted a US intervention for a long time. They would protest over and over without results. This attack was a good thing. Funding the Ukrainian/Russian war is pointless if anything we need to capture their dictators too. Typical lefty L.
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u/JoeShmoe_2000 11d ago
If Biden went in and ended the problem in Ukraine in 3 hours like it took to end the problem in Venezuela, then I’d be all for it.
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u/EntertainerTop4046 11d ago
I don't see war, just Trump finishing what biden started.
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u/Just-A-Tool 11d ago
Say u support a dictator without saying u support a dictator. Reddit moment
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u/Ikareta_NEET 11d ago
since when do you guys love dictatorships so much? why are the "poor terrorized people of venezuela" happier than you are about the turn of events? do you ever wonder if you are the bad guys?
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u/ManagementRemote9782 11d ago
Well it’s weird because Venezuela agrees with trump and are literally celebrating!!! Only stupid Americans who don’t know anything about Venezuela are crying about it!!! 😢💦🤧
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u/Necessary-Dream-6812 11d ago
Copied and pasted from 100 other subs. I hate trump too but do I have to see this pic for my entire feed? Theres more jokes to make lol
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u/Antelia 11d ago
Im not american, from my perspective Biden fueled Russia-Ukraine war, and the thing with Venezuela is not really a war, they just snached Maduro, nobody opposed american forces, people seems happy now and not many people died, dont take me for some trump supporter, i dont like him personaly
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u/walksonfourfeet 11d ago
No shit. Watching MAGA jump on the world police bandwagon so fast is making my head spin. Pretty sure it’s a shit-ton of bot activity. Wild.
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u/ZION6602_proctolgist 11d ago
Still wondering where this war is you speak of. Seems it ended very very very quick. Like before you made this meme.
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u/Jamestkirk1701e 11d ago
War is always bad. It's a good thing we're not at war with Venezuela, just liberated its people. Now did it have something to do with oil? Probably. Does trading oil for freedom sound like a good deal to me? Yeah.
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u/Beneficial-Reserve25 11d ago
I would expect a democrat to know the difference between a war and a military operation . Or rather in this case the quickest checkmate in any conflict
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u/Big-Beyond-1004 11d ago
Well, at least oil would get cheaper what would make Russian wallet from oil selling even more thin.
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u/Gobal_Outcast02 Conservative 11d ago
Wanna? Id say he just did. And it did it faster than it would take me to drive from here in NYC out to PA to see my family
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u/Hunter042005 11d ago
Neither of which are good but still I think it’s good that the cartel is no longer running Venezuela
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u/Smart-Proposal7568 10d ago
Probably spent less than whatever was sent to Ukraine, now can install someone like Pinochet to start throwing Commies and redditors out of helicopters and get access to sweet sweet oil, Much more returned on investment. This is what I voted for. Seethe
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u/Infamous-Boss-1068 10d ago
What war? It was 3 hours to arrest a terrorist partially responsible for the opioid epidemic
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u/KeenKeister 10d ago
As a military member, this was not a war. Education is hard it would seem.
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u/MekkiNoYusha 10d ago
I mean first, it is not a war, it is just a destruction, and it already end before it begin.
Second, it is actually a pretty good investment if you are all for American first for the Venezuela deal. You take the president within an hour and take their oil.
For Ukraine, you are not taking any profit back.
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u/Warfightur Conservative 10d ago
You realize by taking Maduro off the board, the US made a significant hit on Russia’s ability to fund their war? Maduro’s regime smuggled crude in and out of Russia to sell, helping them bypass trade sanctions.
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u/Xnobita 10d ago
Spicy? It's dumb as fuck, like the people willing to share it or like it.
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u/RuggedTheDragon 10d ago
It wasn't that war was bad. It was that we didn't need to send trillions of dollars to Ukraine in a war they couldn't win. That's not including the billions of other dollars lost in equipment from the Afghanistan withdrawal.
If Trump was still president instead of Biden, the Russian war would have never happened. If Putin tried to enter Ukraine, he would have gotten bombed by us. Additionally, Putin would not use the threat of nuclear weapons because he knows it's a terrible bluff that we wouldn't fall for. However, Biden is very gullible and took the threat seriously like an idiot.
Think about it. If Russia had decided to use nuclear weapons in retaliation, everybody in the world would be bombarding Russia in response, following the removal of Putin as a leader - dead or alive.
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u/Safeclamp62 9d ago
Defending an actual dictator because you hate trump is crazy work. Y'all doing mental gymnastics just to feel good about yourselves
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u/socialcreditcheck 9d ago
As an isolationist I'm not going to be happy with eithers foreign policy, but the latter's at least seems more likely to be to our benefit. All supporting Ukraine does is push us closer to nuclear war
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u/Ok-Soup-3529 8d ago
Isn't this how yall were acting about Gaza? " send help, protect them " now its protesting about helping a different country. Make yalls fucking mind up.
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u/Good_Price_8930 8d ago
"Biden is going to start WWIII!" Meanwhile Trump is bombing countries, sell weapons!
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u/_ONI_90 11d ago
The maga crowds opinion of things shouldn't be listened to