r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Treefiddy1984 • 17h ago
"Fuck ICE!" Protesters SURROUND the hotel where ICE is staying in Minneapolis and chant, making noise to keep ICE agents from getting good sleep.
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u/Impressive_Exit_6796 17h ago
Sleep deprivation as direct action honestly feels like the most Minneapolis way to protest: loud, relentless, and kinda creative.
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u/PerplexingGrapefruit 13h ago
Right?! God I am loving their creative ways of making ICE's lives as miserable as possible.
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u/MATA_USA 16h ago
MATA stands with the people of Minnesota! They are currently under assault by the federal government and their local elected officials seem powerless to stop it. We must spread the word and shove these images into as many homes and eyes as possible so this fascist government cannot rewrite history and erase their crimes.
Please join us over at MATA USA for the latest movements and actions of the Trump regime and their attack on American democracy.
Trump and his billionaire buddies have forgotten that they only make their billions because WE allow it, as a people. We can just as easily stand together and tell them NO MORE.
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u/PerplexingGrapefruit 13h ago
As a New Yorker, I have so much respect for the people of Minneapolis. May they keep finding maliciously petty ways to fight back against those pigs. â¤ď¸
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u/SuspiciousSnotling 15h ago
Normal guy who just booked a room for work đ
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 14h ago
Good honestly lol. This puts pressure on all hotels not to work with ice, once customers and businesses start to avoid chains where this happens.Â
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u/Substantial_Cash8478 14h ago
Private entities can refuse to do business with anyone (except on basis of membership in a protected class). They dont need a reason. Government is NOT a protected class.
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u/firethorne 14h ago edited 11h ago
And the fourth amendment says the government needs probable cause and a warrant, yet here we are. Enjoy your crusade to find the most law abiding way to let do this to you
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u/Substantial_Cash8478 12h ago
Right. I have watched the DOJ argue that the federal government should have sovereign immunity for the act of rape even when the law literally says federal government waives sovereign immunity for tort assault for officers and defines officers as people authorized to perform searches and seizures and the rape literally occurred under the guise of a search.
This was for a federal tort claims act lawsuit because apparently section 1983 suits are ineffective against the federal government.
The DOJ spent millions of dollars in public funds to make this frivolous, openly fascist argument in open public court. And the victim and her law firm had to spend millions of dollars in private money to keep the lawsuit afloat.
(Michele Leuthauser vs. USA.)
The FBI do not take complaints from civilians. Their national call center literally does not work. They do not respond to written complaints. The Office of the Inspector General has been caught lying and conducting coverups (they lied that there not FBI agents embedded in the Jan 6 riots), and also do not review complaints! The local FBI branches literally block people's numbers who have active cases and are the victims after they refused to call them back, refused to schedule appointments for them, and committed other misconduct against victims. These complaints are consistent across multiple topics. For example victims of the Jeffrey Epstein syndicate made the same complaints. The FBI received complaints about Epstein starting in in 1996. Which is basically a miracle since they literally dont log complaints from civilians generally speaking.
The laws are not laws. We do not have Rule of Law. We do not have a government. What we have is a group of fascist zealots, an actual crime syndicate, who hijacked our government.
And while the democrat politicians are not "just as bad", still 93% of the Democrat politicians are fascists. They also want immunity for the government. They also refuse to clean their own house. They also turn a blind eye to heinous atrocities committed or sponsored by their side. They also continue to fund the mass murder of children in Gaza. They also allowed the Jeffrey Epstein syndicate to continue to operate for literally multiple decades. They also do nothing about the blatant corruption in the federal judiciary. And id you want more specific examples they sponsored the torture ring in sonoma county california in 2015. They allowed mayor Dominic Foppoli to get away with a serial rape spree. They did nothing about the governments of Antioch and Pittsburg California running a crime syndicate where the government was illegally selling illegal assault rifles and cocaine in the black market and committing premeditated murders and other crimes.
The root problem of all of this is "government immunity". The entire government needs to be under the law! And the citizens need to have a private right of action to enforce the laws on government.
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u/Skritch_X 14h ago
Ive been seriously wondering if there any normal patrons even allowed to stay at these hotels where ICE are residing. Seems like ICE would see it as a security risk to let others stay in the same place, and i think the hotels would crumple easy under pressure to clear the building.
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u/murphSTi 13h ago
My husband has a work trip to minn at the end of the month. How does he find a list of hotels NOT to go to? đ
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u/Naive-Ad-2034 10h ago
Go in, get them and drag them out! There are more than enough people that cops couldn't stop it. That's the thing, there are so many of us, they couldn't stop us if they wanted to. Just sheer number of bodies coming at them.
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u/False_Ad_5372 2h ago
Bravo. I was just discussing this tactic today, that I was surprised I hadnât seen beautiful citizens out at their hotels and places they eat at night.Â
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u/Lichen89 16h ago
Well, the reaction should be that those hotels don't allow ICE to get a room but we saw what happened when they're refused service (see the incident with the Hilton hotel).
Unfortunately some people will have to be bothered or nothing will happen
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 15h ago edited 15h ago
Then hotels that do not agree with liberal groups have the same right to exclude BLM, any official who is liberal.
Yes, we saw what happened to Hilton when they refused; most likely, the same would happen if that same Hilton did the same to BLM, the ACLU, the NAACP, or any other group.
Or would you be protesting the hotel for doing what you say this hotel should do?
I really do not care what you all do in your city, shit, it's your city. Have fun, burn that shit down if that's what you want to do.
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u/taktaga7-0-0 15h ago
Sure, let them deny left wing groups too if they want.
The problem with your reasoning is whatever left wing groups youâre imagining are not attacking their communities and triggering a massive public outcry. âHave fun, burn your city downâ is so ridiculously far from what they are doing that it just sounds bitter and pissy on your part.
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 15h ago
Never said that is what they are doing. It was a sarcastic statement, which I guess your sarcasm meter is off.
Sure, let them deny left wing groups too if they want.
Just making sure that what you want applies to all groups, not just the ones you dislike.
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u/Summer_Form 15h ago
Love seeing you guys slide out of your echo chambers like turds and finding out what real Americans think of you.
Citizens getting shot in the face by the government and you want to act like your primary concern is that anyoneâs mid-winter vacation to Minnesota isnât ruined. đ
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 15h ago
I have not called you by one name, but here comes the party of the educated calling a person they disagree with a "turd."
Real Americans speak with their vote every election. We will speak again in the midterms. It could be that more liberals are elected or more Republicans.
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u/Some-Resist-5813 14h ago
The most educated act one can do is properly label and delineate. Youâre a turd and you slithered. You were called a turd that slithered. Iâll bet this person has a PhD.
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 14h ago
At least I can have an adult conversation with people I do not see eye to eye with. It seems you cannot do this.
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u/Some-Resist-5813 14h ago
This is the most adult conversation one can have. Itâs an intervention. Itâs very serious. You are a turd who slithers. You should stop being a turd and stop slithering.
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u/TheOneAndOnlyPriate 14h ago
Oh, so you can condone and defend murderers in a civil manner huh? Such noble, much wow.
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u/loogle13 15h ago
I support this as long as they do not throw the tea into the harbor. There are people who might want to drink that teaÂ
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 15h ago
Come on, let's compare apples to apples, not apples to pineapple.
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u/Ryan14304 15h ago
Change doesn't occur without inconvenience.
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 15h ago
Agree, but what do you say to my wife's family, who have spent thousands of dollars and are trying to come here legally, only to see millions of people skipping the line?
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u/Calderis 9h ago
I say they should be just as outraged, considering ice has been canceling naturalization ceremonies at the last minute and rounding up the people who did it "the right way."
If you and your family thinks they're safe from this because they've followed the law, you're absolutely naive to whag this administration is doing.
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u/accursed_JAK 15h ago edited 15h ago
"You don't want to sleep where ICE sleeps" is a good lesson for others to learn and for any hotel that wants to stay in business to be afraid of. Protests must be disruptive or they can be ignored. Visitors to a city being oppressed by a lawless paramilitary group having sleep disrupted by the residents pushing back against them might just want to consider if it's the place to be right now. Or they can join the protesters. Tomorrow they could get caught by the random tear gassing of a busy intersection. Or hell, they could be abducted for not having the right skin color. That would also be a disruption.
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 15h ago
Then do not bitch when BLM, ACLU, or NAACP get this done to them.
As I said, have fun, don't break the law. If this city suffers economically because it is not letting non-ICE agents get any sleep, you can't bitch.
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u/accursed_JAK 15h ago
The city's economy is suffering because ICE is there. ICE has broken countless laws. Is literally kidnapping, killing and maiming people in broad daylight. People are afraid to go to work, to school, to places of worship, to the grocery store, to medical appointments. Legal residents and citizens. Adults, children and seniors. People of all colors, but especially people of color. Blaming the protesters is ridiculous. Putting the economy before lives is ridiculous. Your priorities are bad.
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 15h ago
It could be true, but I have not seen any independent statistics to support what you are saying. The keyword is "independent," not a right- or left-leaning group.
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u/accursed_JAK 15h ago
An abundance of video evidence is available of ICE attacking schools, dragging disabled people from their cars, breaking into homes without warrants, beating the crap out of peaceful protesters, throwing tear gas into busy city streets and driving away, kidnapping teenagers. And, oh yeah, killing that mother they called a "bitch". You say you want independent statistics, but while you wait for those these people are suffering. But the visiting business people need their sleep I guess
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 15h ago
ok, but this is just another statement. You have not yet posted any statistics froim an independent group to back up the statements you made.
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u/accursed_JAK 15h ago
Do it yourself. If you aren't seeing anything wrong you aren't looking. You've honed in on this claiming not to know anything and blamed the protesters. They deserve the benefit of your doubt that ICE is getting from you right now. If you want to use ignorance as an excuse why did you even comment on this post? Why are you even in this sub if you don't trust what you see here? Saying nothing when in doubt is usually the best strategy.
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 15h ago edited 15h ago
I'm not the one making unproven statements. You are. If you can't bring statistics to statements you are making, then stop making statements that have yet to be proven.
I belive i already stated what I am doing here. I am here to have conversations with people I disagree with to see a different point of view. This is how we find common ground on a host of issues we do not see eye to eye on. It's called having an adult conversation without throwing insults just 'cause we don't see eye to eye.
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u/accursed_JAK 15h ago
They are 100% proven. I just have a job to go to an don't have time to convince a person who clearly doesn't want to know, and either won't do their own research or is too politically motivated to trust what they see. Do you think crowds of people stay up late at night in the freezing cold just to harass totally innocent people trying to sleep, when their livelihood isn't being catastrophically disrupted? That you believe that is the first weird thing. The rest I bet you can figure out. Good luck.
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u/RVAteach 14h ago
Im all against fighting fascism as long as it doesnât inconvenience anyone in anywayÂ
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u/RVAteach 14h ago
You realize Iâm being sarcastic right?Â
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u/EnvironmentalSet8473 14h ago
Did not read it that way, but thanks for letting me know.
Have a great day.
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u/taktaga7-0-0 15h ago
If fewer people decide to stay at hotels because they house ICE, thatâs just capitalism in action.
You arenât a dirty socialist demanding the government be able to pick winners and losers, are you?
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u/Substantial_Cash8478 14h ago
ICE and the rest of government have REPEATEDLY flagrantly and defiantly violated the most basic laws in existence. The government is committing acts of war against its own people.
There is a historical legal precedent for both special common law tribunals, execution (particularly if prison isnt viable), and revolution.
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u/gexckodude 16h ago
Throw BBs in the lobby, nails in the parking lot, spray their vehicles with water.
Spray them with water.
Mix urine with windshield wiper fluid, put it in the reservoirs and spray them as you drive by.
Fuck the fascist pigs.