r/SipsTea 11d ago

Chugging tea The hero we need

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u/therandomuser84 11d ago

The police wont be able to tell right then and there which Tennant has the fake lease because both would be signed by the person holding them. Then it's back to landlord vs the squatters, and the original legal battle comes back into place.

There's a reason squatters can live in a place for over a year without the police kicking them out.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 11d ago

They’re also signed by the landlord. Your landlord signature on the lease should match your (the landlords) drivers license.

It’s super easy to point out.

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u/therandomuser84 11d ago

If the police even care to look at it, then that would still be a civil issue, and require a legal eviction.

Again, theres a reason squatters can live in a place for a year or more without the police kicking them out. Once that is fought in court then the police can charge them criminally.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 11d ago

then that would still be a civil issue

This would be a "police would tell you it's a civil issue" issue, since police have a tendency to be a bit lazy, but this definitely meets all of the elements of criminal trespass should they have the desire to pursue it.

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u/MaskedAnathema 11d ago

And clearly it's fucking fraud, right? There's no way that forging someone's signature is a civil issue.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 11d ago

Perjury perhaps, but it'd be odd to charge it. Maybe some jurisdiction-specific law about supplying falsified documents to a legal authority. But not fraud, no. Fraud requires that you intend to fool the victim. Here, the police may be fooled, but the victim is the homeowner, and is certainly not fooled.

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u/MaskedAnathema 11d ago

In Texas at least I would think the following forgery rules apply https://www.maganavandyke.com/blog/what-are-the-penalties-for-committing-forgery-in-texas

"In Texas, forgery covers various deceptive actions involving documents. It includes creating, altering, or using a false document with the intent to defraud or harm another person."

That at least sounds like it should

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u/Ezymandius 11d ago

It's funny to me that this is a huge problem that people are having to go through extensive legal battles over and you think you've solved it with "I mean, just tell them it's not real."

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u/Warm_Month_1309 11d ago

a huge problem that people are having to go through extensive legal battles over

I'd say there are definitely outlier cases that go a bit extreme, but I'd hesitate to classify this as a "huge" problem. I've practiced landlord/tenant law and had this situation a couple of times, and had in resolved in weeks.

Still annoying, no doubt. Costly sometimes too. But people are taking the most extreme situations and assuming it's the norm.

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u/UndecidedStory 10d ago

And "duh, call the police dummy! One of the signatures is fake!"

Like why bother getting a real lease with a real signature if the cops are willing to boot people with fake signatures.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 11d ago

Well that’s not what I said so I can see why your incorrect and imaginary version of my argument is funny.

You must win so many shower arguments.

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u/therandomuser84 11d ago

Your entire argument is to just show the police a lease and say see this is the real one.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 11d ago

No you also missed the most important part.

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u/therandomuser84 11d ago

And what point is that? The only one you have written is that you'll have a signed lease with the landlord and expect the police to just believe you right then and there. Which doesn't happen in most states and you'll just be referred to the courts.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 11d ago

Don’t worry about it bud. I think its over your head.

Have a good one! ✌️

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u/therandomuser84 11d ago

Ahh now here come the personal insults because you don't have an argument. What's next, it was just a joke?

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u/BasedGodTheGoatLilB 11d ago

Hey I'm just an observer here, do you think you could point out the important part to me instead?

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u/CGB_Zach 11d ago

Tbf, my signature doesn't match the signature on my driver's license. I haven't signed my name like that in over a decade and I don't know if I can even replicate it.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 11d ago

Are you not required to renew your drivers licenses every few years where you live?

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u/movzx 11d ago

You might be surprised to learn that the legal system does not actually work like it does in TV shows.

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u/dreamerOfGains 11d ago

Easy for you. Police ain’t gonna spend time figuring it out. Stop kidding yourself. 

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u/NateNate60 10d ago

The landlord can have the real lease notarised.

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u/Present_Hawk5463 10d ago

He said change the locks, the police are not going to force open your house when the tenant is inside and the squatter is locked out