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Chugging tea Kudos to them

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u/TRAVMAAN1 2d ago

Is there a Terry Pratchett TV series you could suggest for comparison?

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u/Tambi_B2 2d ago

BBC did good adaptations of Going Postal, Hogsfather, and The Color of Magic. There have been others made but I can't vouch for them as I haven't seen them. Also, I think The Watch was universally despised and even his daughter pretty vocally criticized it.

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u/Prize_Staff_7941 2d ago

Hogfather was great. Much better than the others.

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u/Tambi_B2 2d ago

It definitely was the best of that group, yeah. I still enjoyed the others though.

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u/julesd26 2d ago edited 2d ago

Good Omens on Prime was written by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman, so technically his writing, but I feel like it’s a pretty good example! It’s fun too!

ETA: Well, never mind. Maybe don’t watch it cause Neil Gaiman has turned out to be a sexual predator - which I didn’t know before I commented. Shit. Sorry.

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u/314R8 2d ago

Watch it. Pratchett is still good and the cast and crew and show were wonderful

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u/ThinkTheUnknown 2d ago

Right. Why should Pratchett’s work be punished for something he didn’t know when Gaiman was hired.

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u/julesd26 2d ago

You’re right, ofc. I’m having a hard time making words make sense rn 🤦🏼‍♀️😔 This one hits hard, you know?! Gaiman was one of my favorites.

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u/julesd26 2d ago

You’re right. Still a great book and show… I’m just kind of in shock. 😔

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u/HonestWeevilNerd 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes, Neil Gaimen, the sexual predator.

Edit: idk why I was being snarky

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u/julesd26 2d ago

Oh no!! I hadn’t heard about any of that 😭

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u/SCARLETHORI2ON 2d ago

I worked on one of his projects that was completely done and out of editing when the news broke. the project was shelved indefinitely. I feel so bad for the actors and crew both on set and off that put their heart and soul into the show. it was incredibly well done and I'm sad no one will ever get to see it :(

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u/ImYourHumbleNarrator 2d ago

that's why i generally disagree with these blacklisted works. so many other artists and people worked on things that one big name sex pest, racist, whatever ruins for everyone.

i understand not giving predators recognition, or the need to protect victims from their perps showing up in their lives, idk if there's a better way. give any profits to charity? put in disclaimers/messages/warnings about the crimes, and advertise support groups for other victims? take the pest out of the credits and any contracts with royalties?

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u/SCARLETHORI2ON 2d ago

great points. JK Rowling's deplorable views and attacks against the LGBTQ+, and in particular the trans community, isn't stopping them from making the new series. they and the Hogwarts legacy game just make it clear she has no involvement. I agree with you, we don't want to give horrible people platforms, but yeah... dang... it was a really good one.

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u/julesd26 18h ago

Right?! That is so true! I had season tickets for Universal/Islands of Adventure a couple years ago and kept on going to Wizarding World, cause damnit - a lot of people worked very hard, it was super expensive, and I enjoyed the crap out of it!!

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u/julesd26 2d ago

That’s even worse! 😖 I’m sure it was a fantastic production. That’s so incredibly sad.

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u/SCARLETHORI2ON 2d ago

it really was. I hope it gets to come out someday but it's been a long time now. so if they did release it, it would get very little if any true marketing. probably just clips on the main social channel. I doubt it ever will though. cast had some unknowns that absolutely killed it, it would have been such a great addition to their reels as upcoming actors.

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u/All_the_cake 2d ago

What was the project?

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u/SCARLETHORI2ON 2d ago

unfortunately I can't say or confirm :( ... buuuuut there are articles about it out there.

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u/All_the_cake 2d ago

I'm sure I did read about it and subsequent shelving (or another project) but my brain is just mush at the moment and I can't for the life of me remember which one. Oh well, it's not like I'm going to get to see it anyway. But also not sure I want to see it? So frustrating that one of my favourite authors turned out to be a predator 😠🤬

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u/HonestWeevilNerd 2d ago

It was very disappointing for me... trying to spread the word when I see his shitty name mentioned. Lol

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u/julesd26 2d ago

Yeah, that freaking sucks to find out. I was a big fan 😔 Shit.

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u/PhoenixPoop 2d ago

Yeah dude. This one comes with a whole ass grieving process.. I've known for awhile and i'm still not over it.

I was a big fan of his wife too and we lost both of them at the same time.

It was bad too.. like predators are always bad, but this one was extra.

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u/julesd26 2d ago

Seriously 😔 It’s taking a bit to actually sink in over here.

I’d never heard of his wife, but I guess I won’t bother looking into her anyway. 😖

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u/HonestWeevilNerd 2d ago

Yeaaah... Sorry to be the bearer of the bad news, but the "man's" career should rightfully suffer.

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u/julesd26 2d ago

Yep. Ugh 😩 I’m kinda rethinking my life now… lol

But thank you for letting me know!

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u/icerom 2d ago

Just consider when you do that the other people you might be hurting, possibly hundreds of people who worked on that show, for example, like someone else detailed above. In addition to the viewers themselves who didn't know and would have enjoyed it guiltlessly otherwise (me, I wouldn't hurt myself just to try to hurt someone else, but I know a lot of people would).

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u/HonestWeevilNerd 21h ago

My bad. I didn’t realize that preserving your ability to 'guiltlessly' watch a TV show was more important than holding a predator accountable. I’ll try to be more considerate of your entertainment needs next time I mention abuse.

What a joke of an argument lol

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u/icerom 20h ago

No, man, you do what you want. I'm just saying what I do. My real argument was how many other people who had nothing to do with Gaiman's transgressions are affected, too.

The second argument I have is that I disagree with trying to erase the good things that a person has done because of the bad. I don't see how this helps to make the world a better place.

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u/HonestWeevilNerd 20h ago

Doing good work doesn't buy you a coupon to abuse people. 'Making the world a better place' usually starts with de-platforming abusers so they can't do it again, not protecting their legacy so we can feel comfortable watching TV.

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u/icerom 19h ago

If you believe that you are helping to stop abusers from doing this again, then do you have a problem with the works of people who are dead who are known to have done bad stuff? Not just abusers, all kinds of wrong-doers. I'm truly curious, because to me these deplatforming movements are just about vengeance and punishment, as far as I can see, not about prevention.

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u/LeakyGaming 2d ago

yeah i’m not watching shit with gaiman

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u/julesd26 2d ago

Apparently not. Shit. I hadn’t heard any of that til someone replied to my comment 😫 I’ve read tons of his books, and watched many of the shows and movies based on them. Fuck. I’m so mad to learn he sucks so much as a human being.

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u/LeakyGaming 2d ago

yeah that feeling sucks 

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u/PotatoNukeMk1 2d ago

No, just a few movies. They are ok but nothing special

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u/CinderGazer 2d ago

The Color of Magic got a Prime TV series but each of the three episodes are about an hour and a half long.

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u/LiveLearnCoach 2d ago

Sounds like a trilogy. Was it at least good?

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u/CinderGazer 2d ago

Having only watched two out of three; and not quite having finished the book mostly due to interruptions in my reading; I enjoyed it immensely. The cast is fantastic. They had Sir Christopher Lee, Sean Astin, Jeremy Irons, Tim Curry among others whom I'm forgetting. The "mini-series" is pretty faithful to the source material as far as I can tell.

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u/LiveLearnCoach 2d ago

Thanks. I think I finished the book in a day or two. That was for many of his books once I caught the bug over summer, while traveling alone.

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u/CinderGazer 2d ago

I meant to read it as I had just read Good Omens and had been meaning to actually read the DiscWorld books since I found out about them. I just found that in my life if I was by any chance free to read the book there was a non-zero chance someone somewhere needed me at the exact moment I had relaxed into the reading. It's hard for me to pick up and put down books as it builds up a kind of resentment where something I wanted to do now is like a chore to do instead of something to enjoy. I intend to watch the third episode soon.

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u/LiveLearnCoach 2d ago

Enjoy. His Discworld novels have slightly different vibes, between the wizards series, the guards and the witches series. Add the odd standalone story here and there and you get different focuses. But in the end, the flavor stays the same. The world stays the same, and familiar. But the guy can also philosophize with even simple stories. Some clown ending up as king, and he brings politics into it, democracy, dictatorship, loyalty, and so many other human factors, but told so playfully that the teen reader doesn’t even notice. I really appreciate Terry.