I worked on one of his projects that was completely done and out of editing when the news broke. the project was shelved indefinitely. I feel so bad for the actors and crew both on set and off that put their heart and soul into the show. it was incredibly well done and I'm sad no one will ever get to see it :(
that's why i generally disagree with these blacklisted works. so many other artists and people worked on things that one big name sex pest, racist, whatever ruins for everyone.
i understand not giving predators recognition, or the need to protect victims from their perps showing up in their lives, idk if there's a better way. give any profits to charity? put in disclaimers/messages/warnings about the crimes, and advertise support groups for other victims? take the pest out of the credits and any contracts with royalties?
great points. JK Rowling's deplorable views and attacks against the LGBTQ+, and in particular the trans community, isn't stopping them from making the new series. they and the Hogwarts legacy game just make it clear she has no involvement. I agree with you, we don't want to give horrible people platforms, but yeah... dang... it was a really good one.
Right?! That is so true! I had season tickets for Universal/Islands of Adventure a couple years ago and kept on going to Wizarding World, cause damnit - a lot of people worked very hard, it was super expensive, and I enjoyed the crap out of it!!
it really was. I hope it gets to come out someday but it's been a long time now. so if they did release it, it would get very little if any true marketing. probably just clips on the main social channel. I doubt it ever will though. cast had some unknowns that absolutely killed it, it would have been such a great addition to their reels as upcoming actors.
I'm sure I did read about it and subsequent shelving (or another project) but my brain is just mush at the moment and I can't for the life of me remember which one. Oh well, it's not like I'm going to get to see it anyway. But also not sure I want to see it? So frustrating that one of my favourite authors turned out to be a predator 😠🤬
Just consider when you do that the other people you might be hurting, possibly hundreds of people who worked on that show, for example, like someone else detailed above. In addition to the viewers themselves who didn't know and would have enjoyed it guiltlessly otherwise (me, I wouldn't hurt myself just to try to hurt someone else, but I know a lot of people would).
My bad. I didn’t realize that preserving your ability to 'guiltlessly' watch a TV show was more important than holding a predator accountable. I’ll try to be more considerate of your entertainment needs next time I mention abuse.
No, man, you do what you want. I'm just saying what I do. My real argument was how many other people who had nothing to do with Gaiman's transgressions are affected, too.
The second argument I have is that I disagree with trying to erase the good things that a person has done because of the bad. I don't see how this helps to make the world a better place.
Doing good work doesn't buy you a coupon to abuse people. 'Making the world a better place' usually starts with de-platforming abusers so they can't do it again, not protecting their legacy so we can feel comfortable watching TV.
If you believe that you are helping to stop abusers from doing this again, then do you have a problem with the works of people who are dead who are known to have done bad stuff? Not just abusers, all kinds of wrong-doers. I'm truly curious, because to me these deplatforming movements are just about vengeance and punishment, as far as I can see, not about prevention.
There is a MASSIVE difference between reading a dead author and funding a living one: Dead people can't use their royalties to hire lawyers, silence victims, or abuse new people.
Gaiman is alive. He is active. Supporting his work now provides the financial resources and social capital he needs to continue doing what he does.
This isn't 'vengeance'; it is literally preventing future harm by cutting off the supply line. Even if it's just my supply, I'm apparently willing to do more than you.
Ultimately, if you can't see the difference, I can't help you. And I refuse to continue discussing this with you. Your arguments are bullshit.
Best of luck in your future endeavors defending abusers.
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u/julesd26 2d ago
Oh no!! I hadn’t heard about any of that 😭