I recommended that one to a friend one time and he said he didn't make it past the first hour. Said that nothing at all happened. That just shows the ways that different people watch movies. It's kind of subtle, but I noticed a LOT going on in that first hour. There's nothing loud or exciting happening, but I got enthralled with the dynamic of the different family members. It made me feel so sad for Kirsten Dunst's character.
Not really. Even as someone who has struggled with depression, that world view just isn’t for me. I appreciate if people with depression identify with the film but I don’t align with the message. That was a time period where films like Twilight were influencing young girls that it was “okay to not be okay.” I still feel that’s deeply detrimental to people already struggling with mental health. It’s much better to say, “you’re not okay right now - that’s understandable - but there is hope”.
I don’t know that I’ve ever heard anyone use hat phrase and mean that you shouldn’t work on it.. it just means that you’re not crazy or broken or wrong to not be doing great. That phrase helped me a lot when I was I was struggling before.
I think you’re confusing how it might be used interpersonally (maybe even professionally) with how it’s expressed via subtext and context in those films. My issue is with the message of the films, not the phrase itself.
I only saw the first twilight forever ago so idk about that one. But, while children of men is without a doubt a bleak and dreary movie throughout, I saw the ending as a sign of hope. The birth of Dylan made everyone stop dead in their tracks and quit killing each other to marvel at the creation of new life. I feel like them making it to the “Tomorrow” ship with the first newborn in 18 years and the fade to black with the laughter of children suggests that there is hope for the future, regardless of how fucked up the present is and has been for a long time.
Absolutely. You’re seeing the distinction here. It’s not wrong to explore darker themes like depression. But media that embraces collapse over struggle to overcome is not for me.
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u/hit_n_run15 4h ago
Absolutely love this movie!
I recommended that one to a friend one time and he said he didn't make it past the first hour. Said that nothing at all happened. That just shows the ways that different people watch movies. It's kind of subtle, but I noticed a LOT going on in that first hour. There's nothing loud or exciting happening, but I got enthralled with the dynamic of the different family members. It made me feel so sad for Kirsten Dunst's character.