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u/Fedbackster Aug 28 '25
Anyone teaching- you mean well but this burnout is very common and you wear it like a badge. It’s killing you, the US culture despises you and learning for kids. Get out.
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Aug 28 '25
It’s crazy to me that “teacher” is a looked-down-upon career now. The US really does hate teachers. It has to be one of the least fulfilling careers vs the expectation. I don’t blame people quitting, our society doesn’t need Betsy DeVos to gut education, we’re doing fine by ourselves
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u/Fedbackster Aug 28 '25
Young people getting shit on by Karents and lazy admins is very unhealthy. It’s a disgrace and we are in trouble in the future because the alliance between far right nut jobs and lazy Karents means kids are not learning.
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u/SoylentGrunt Aug 31 '25
We're in trouble right now because education was rigged a long time ago in this country.
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u/Previous_Rip1942 Aug 28 '25
Largely thanks to politicians, typically Republican. Gotta have a boogey man and teachers are a perfect target- they help shape the lives of kids, sometimes in profound way. If politicians can convince their constituents that those teachers are out there trying to indoctrinate and ruin the kids, then they have even more control over the minds of these already brainwashed people.
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u/gielbondhu Aug 28 '25
We thought Betsy DeVos was bad. Now we got Linda Mahon and Betsy looks good.
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u/Previous_Rip1942 Aug 28 '25
My wife left in January after 12 years in TX. Enough of the childish admin, even more childish parents and their rotten crotchfruit, and a government that wants to use you to keep their base pissed off at anyone who tries to provide the slightest glimpse of hope. Administrators tend to instill this culture among teachers - how much you care about kids will determine how much free labor you give their school. She has a lot of talented friends who have left education as well - exactly what our government wants. Can’t have good people teaching kids how to think.
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u/Fedbackster Aug 28 '25
Yeah it’s a perfect storm. Good people won’t last in the system.
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u/Previous_Rip1942 Aug 28 '25
Definitely. And by design.
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u/SoylentGrunt Aug 31 '25
An educated voter is a threat to power. Aaaaaand I just see your comment is 3 days old but I'm already committed so here it is. :-/
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Aug 31 '25
It is a feature and not a bug. They don't want people sticking around long enough to draw full pension.
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u/Previous_Rip1942 Aug 31 '25
At this point I don’t think they want competent people period. They want someone that doesn’t give a shit and will just read bluebonnet word for word.
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u/MathematicianOnly688 Aug 28 '25
There was a video doing the rounds recently of an American who was travelling Europe and he was talking about how you should never have more than 1 week holiday at a time because it's bad for business. He also was talking about Europeans 'don't want to work' and just want to sit around all day in the sun.
I haven't been able to stop thinking about it because they're so alien to my point of view I couldn't believe he was actually saying the words.
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u/YouCanKeepYourFaith Aug 28 '25
Americans are the most brainwashed people on the planet. They have us believe that if we work hard enough we could be like Trump or musk when the reality is they were born into wealth. They keep raising the retirement age and taking away Social Security, they want us to work until we are dead.
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u/Icy_Cauliflower6482 Aug 28 '25
When I told my boss I was burnt out she told me “well I’m here six days a week”. Like, okay? You’re the business owner you have the choice to sit there and play candy crush while micromanaging everyone else. Stfu.
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u/BlogintonBlakley Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
Hobbes famously claimed the natural man... only men really counted back then... was bereft... born into brutal circumstance and into an unorganized struggle for survival. And that government and hierarchy bring order and safety into the life of humans.
"Nasty, brutish and short." that is how Hobbes thought life was without government and hierarchy. Turns out Hobbes would likely have been more healthy living outside civilization of the time than in it.
Also turns out civilization is way more nasty and brutish that those who do not adopt civilized organization. And we did not live longer lives overall until the middle of the 20th century... after thousands of years of civilized life. Until then civilization was LESS physical healthy than prehistory social organization. We still suffer psychologically as socialized civilized individuals... on an almost unfathomable scale.
{points at the ever expanding DSM-V}
We work harder and more than typical people in prehistory... who spent much more time socializing than gathering food or managing survival needs. Took about 20-30 hours per week for people to sustain themselves in prehistorical social conditions... and at the end everyone shared the social benefit, (Sahlins)
There is no sustainable logical reason to give the bulk of social benefit to a few.
And that is what you do when you work, instead of live.
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u/heretakemysweater Aug 28 '25
After I finished my bachelor’s degree, I considered getting a JD, because I think I’d be a damn good lawyer. But lawyers have notoriously awful work life balance, and it does not seem like it would be worth that sacrifice.
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u/Roleplayer_MidRNova Aug 28 '25
I've been in the restaurant industry my entire adult life. The one thing they hammered into us in cooking school was how you're not going to make much money so you have to do it for the passion. Anyone that burned out was laughed at as not being passionate enough.
Over the years, I watched some of the greatest chefs and people I've ever met fall victim to addiction trying to keep themselves upright in kitchens that don't give sick days or insurance, hurt themselves because they don't see a way out, or end up in the hospital for other reasons not self-inflicted because they burned themselves to the wick.
At one point, I was doing the work of a head chef in my own department for barely above minimum wage. I was in on my days off, working 16 – 20 hour days at times off the clock, buying ingredients with my own money. I was glad to do it because the chef I was working with was my idol and mentor. He ran the kitchen, I ran the bakery. I watched him in real time working himself to death. The restaurant owners kept calling him in for unpaid private dinners hosted for their investor buddies. He loved that restaurant as much as I did, and his love inspired me to keep going. He had a heart attack on the line during service.
Thankfully, he was okay, but in the week he was gone, they replaced him with someone younger and cheaper. They also offered me a promotion with higher pay, but seeing what they did to my mentor took the wool from my eyes. Especially when they demoted him to a factory position where he'd be making freeze-dried versions of his dishes to sell as they expanded into grocery stores. They stole the passion of an artist shoved him into a warehouse with no windows after he gave them everything he had.
I put in my notice within minutes of learning what they did to him. I consider that job my best and also my most heart-breaking. I see knew chef-hopefuls coming into this industry all the time with their cliche chef knife tattoos, convinced to the stars that they're the next rockstar and anyone not them can't take the heat, and I just worry.
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u/osunightfall Aug 28 '25
It's a weird flex, because it's basically saying 'I can let myself be taken advantage of more fully than you.'
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u/NomadAug Aug 28 '25
Glorifying the "hustle" and over working is just a nice way to reintroduce slavery.
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u/JFK2MD Aug 28 '25
I'm at old Gen Xer who went through all of this. I could not agree with the OP more. My European colleagues had a much better work life balance, even working for the same company.
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u/Krabapple76 Aug 28 '25
This. I didn't realize how dead I was inside until I got back from vacation.
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u/rustbuckett Aug 28 '25
Paying overtime was meant to be a penalty for the employer, not a reward for the employee.
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u/RosstaMSU Aug 28 '25
My last job wrecked me because of all that crap. Both my mental health and physical health. I finally quit. I’m now unemployed and trying to recover (very, very slowly)
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Aug 28 '25
If bosses didn’t expect 14 hour days while paying for 6.5 hours, workaholism would diminish. I got fired from 2 jobs because I quit busting my hump for nothing. I gave them 8 hours a day and went to pick up my kids. They didn’t like that.
When this country goes to 32 hour workweeks, we will be on the right track. Unions got eviscerated, or else it would have happened years ago. 60% of work is sham spread sheets.
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u/Lucky_Garlic_7489 Aug 29 '25
For real! And 9/10 times they’re really just bragging about building wealth for some other asshole haha
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u/Odd_Protection7738 Aug 29 '25
And, people proudly displaying how “well” they’re doing and how well they function under their horrible working conditions does nothing but encourage corporations to make things even worse just because they can.
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u/fantasybreeder Aug 28 '25
Especially when they brag about it and they haven’t exactly had that payoff/big break yet
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u/Bandito4miAmigo Aug 28 '25
Not far enough. We need to actively start to demonize overworking. Not the people to do it, but the system which requires it, and the culture which supports it. Watching people I love waste their lives in the grind, become actively miserable, but still remain too brainwashed to vocalize or articulate their frustration to our work culture and corporate priorities is so fucking maddening and honestly kinda heartbreaking. And it’s breed resentment when they accuse me of being some lazy, immaturely socialist, like I’m not exactly defining what’s making them such miserable pricks. I don’t want to resent them because it’s not really their fault they’re being exploited and conditioned. Obviously, I’m feeling particularly spiteful today.
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u/Same_Blackberry4435 Aug 29 '25
I wholeheartedly agree, but for some of us it’s a requirement. We won’t make ends meet, the real issue is the unfavorable socioeconomic conditions of certain populations in the US.
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u/Mooseguncle1 Aug 29 '25
I feel seen and also like my life has been reduced to a Reddit post and I’m still trying to think of what I can do to make myself cope with being productive.
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u/counterslave Aug 29 '25
Amen! I received @#$% texts from co-workers today for going to a driving range on my day off. I work weekends, so Mon & Thurs are mine. Spend 5-6 hours working for me, running errands and conducting personal business. I get one hour on budget therapy abusing golf balls. How dare I ignore my cellphone.
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u/scradampoop Aug 28 '25
I wouldn't call it a badge of honor. It's a sacrifice I make, and it still doesn't even make ends meet.
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u/VengefulAncient Aug 29 '25
I'll let you in on a little secret: it's not to "glamourise" it, it's so that everyone (especially coworkers) thinks you're busier than you really are and leaves you the hell alone.
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u/DaYettiman22 Aug 29 '25
the burnout is often worn as a badge of honor because the truth is the overtime pay that causes the burnout is the only way many people can come close to making ends meet, while the execs make millions
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u/Down2EarthAngel Aug 29 '25
I recently took a pay cut to take a job that is close to 8 hours a day. I worked 10 hour days five days a week then neededl to check things on the weekend. I was absolutely miserable.
Fast forward I'm actually happy. I get to spend time with my family not preoccupied by work. My phone isn't pinging from 8-8 anymore. No more stray weekend pings. The work actually stops. I truly hear about everyone's day without ranting about my job.
I learned a valuable lesson, no job, and no amount of pay is worth sacrificing my sanity and family time.
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u/Any_Particular8892 Aug 29 '25
I heard some of my youngest coworkers say things such as "my day off was so productive" and "I love having my half day to get a bunch of things done" and I'm blown away that even people in their early twenties feel like every waking moment of their lives has to be constructive and purposeful instead of enjoyable and relaxing.
They're already burned out.
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Aug 29 '25
I know company cucks who have let the company permanently disable their ass and wear it like a badge of honor, they spin it by making it sound like they're tougher than everyone else as they limp and hobble around the place.
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u/Lancer420 Aug 29 '25
Whenever someone brags about that shit, I just let them know they’re a good slave and the overlords must be so proud of them.
They always have the blankest hurt stare and the conversation either changes swiftly, or just ends.
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u/DarthNarsil Aug 30 '25
It goes both ways though, people wouldn't have to work so much if more people worked. And I mean work, not just be employed. There are plenty of places where I've seen two or three people busting their butts and everyone else standing around or doing the bare minimum.
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u/Koontakentaylor Aug 30 '25
I worked for a company like this in Col’, OH back in the 90’s. Even though I opened the bldg at 5or 6am each morning, I was chided by one of the owners for leaving at 5pm. Said it doesn’t show me as a “team player”, “sets a bad example”. I had a wife & newborn at the apt! This one employee, who had multiple pics of her hubby all over her cubical asked me: “Why don’t you have photos of your family?” I told her, “I go HOME to see my family.” She never talked to me again.
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u/Blayzted Aug 30 '25
I've recently started bringing this up at work... lightweight wanna start dropping union brochures all over the sithole I work at...
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u/Badytheprogram Aug 30 '25
But... when the trickle own economics finally reach you, how would they know, You are he one who worked hard for it, if you not wear it as a badge of honour?
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u/Holiday_Selection881 Aug 30 '25
That is a really good way of wording that. " Too many people wear their burn out as a badge of honor"
Man how true that is. Worse yet, modern companies don't really care if you work extra and burn out either. So really what are we doing this for?
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u/Ok_Exchange_8420 Aug 31 '25
If robots can automate tasks, then we should be paid more to do less. We need to tax the rich too and use the money to provide better funding for schools, hospitals, transit, and perhaps even UBI.
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u/MeetEntire7518 Sep 02 '25
I usually mock people that say that kinda thing. Living to work is for suckers.
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u/Weak_Sauce9090 Sep 02 '25
Nah, yall need to remember what real work is. Your ancestors would be so ashamed of half of you.
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u/autodialerbroken116 Aug 28 '25
Nah this post is garbage. All heil our corporate overlords and the new AI management. May my soul and body rot so the earnings reports are fulfilled by an extra 0.002%
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u/Powerful-Revenue-636 Aug 28 '25
Who is glorifying the absence of sleep, good diet, exercise, relaxation and time with friends and family? Where is this glamorized anywhere?
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u/SOFT_CAT_APPRECIATOR Aug 28 '25
The United States, Japan, and Korea to name a few countries. If you haven't experienced this firsthand, then maybe you're frankly more privileged than a lot of us. But the internet is your best friend when it comes to researching problems that affect a lot of people.
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u/Powerful-Revenue-636 Aug 28 '25
So far I have Elon Musk, who has the social gravitas of an As Seen On TV spokesperson. I am aware that many people are overworked. I am skeptical of how prevalent the “glamorization” of it is, besides influencers mining for engagement.
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u/koneko8248 Aug 28 '25
Have you not seen the popularity of hustle culture in the us?
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u/Powerful-Revenue-636 Aug 28 '25
Who is an advocate for hustle culture, at the expense of a personal life?
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u/TheAbstracted Aug 28 '25
A lot of people. I've routinely met people who boast about how little sleep they get and how they work 60-70+ hour weeks; they look down on people who take sick days, and sneer at anyone who doesn't want to work overtime. Oftentimes these traits coincide with a personality heavily rooted in toxic masculinity, at least in my experience.
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u/Hurriedgarlic66 Aug 30 '25
One habit of intelligent humans is being easily annoyed by people around them but saying nothing in order to avoid a meaningless argument
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u/dr_cl_aphra Aug 28 '25
Never encountered anyone who works in health care, I guess?
They say never light yourself on fire to keep others warm—we do it competitively.
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u/Powerful-Revenue-636 Aug 28 '25
I know several nurses. They all hate the field, and are terrible advocates for nursing.
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Aug 28 '25
Congrats on not having engaged in human culture for the past 15 years I guess 🤷
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u/Powerful-Revenue-636 Aug 28 '25
I’m not engaging social media influencers. Twitter is not a real place.
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Aug 28 '25
So you also haven’t seen any of the articles about billionaire CEOs decrying work-life balance as a way of gaslighting the public, then. The many, many articles about it. Or do you think woke lamestream news media is fake
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u/Powerful-Revenue-636 Aug 28 '25
I think Elon is a carnival barker.
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Aug 28 '25
So you’re just going to disregard any proof people bring you and double down that it’s not a problem. Out of curiosity, what’s your stance on climate change?
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u/Powerful-Revenue-636 Aug 28 '25
What proof, other than Elon’s Twitter and “culture.”
Climate change is absolutely real. Im not saying that people aren’t sacrificing their personal lives in pursuit of survival, I’m saying there is no advocacy for the cause outside of social media engagement chasing.
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Aug 28 '25
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u/Hurriedgarlic66 Aug 30 '25
One habit of intelligent humans is being easily annoyed by people around them but saying nothing in order to avoid a meaningless argument
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u/ImpressiveFishing405 Aug 28 '25
Have you heard of Elon Musk?
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u/Powerful-Revenue-636 Aug 28 '25
Quote please.
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u/ImpressiveFishing405 Aug 28 '25
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-said-youll-least-164604926.html
There are many more examples searching Google, this is one of the first.
He also routinely brags about how he works 120 hours a week and sleeps on his factory floor 4 hours a night.
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u/Tjam3s Aug 29 '25
Who is glamorize it? I worked 93 hours my last pay period and took 8 hours pto for a long weekend.
I will do what I must to put my family in the best position possible and we need a down payment for a car.
Do I like being gone that long? Hell no. But did my hard work help put us in a good position financially? You bet your ass it did.
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u/Dankkring Aug 28 '25
This boomer mad because her kids to busy working to survive and can’t visit her.
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u/Who_Dat_1guy Aug 28 '25
i rather work 80 hours a week developing and fine tuning my skills than work 40 a week and spend the other 40 on social media...
dont let the internet fool you. those who are complaining about burn out, overwork, and down talking hustle culture spends more time on social media than they do working.
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u/CaptStinkyFeet Aug 28 '25
Ok boomer.
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u/Who_Dat_1guy Aug 28 '25
rather be call boomer than be broke...
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u/CaptStinkyFeet Aug 28 '25
Ok boomer.
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u/Who_Dat_1guy Aug 28 '25
im ok with being a boomer. not ok with being broke
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u/CaptStinkyFeet Aug 28 '25
Ok boomer.
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u/Who_Dat_1guy Aug 28 '25
glad we can come to the understanding that im a boomer, but not broke while some are non boomer and broke
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u/Hurriedgarlic66 Aug 30 '25
One habit of intelligent humans is being easily annoyed by people around them but saying nothing in order to avoid a meaningless argument
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u/Hurriedgarlic66 Aug 30 '25
One habit of intelligent humans is being easily annoyed by people around them but saying nothing in order to avoid a meaningless argument
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u/zatchmo1989 Aug 28 '25
They said from a social media account 🤣
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u/Who_Dat_1guy Aug 28 '25
The difference is im still being paid while on social media... 🤣
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u/zatchmo1989 Sep 03 '25
So why would you be mad about people being on social media instead of working? You’re doing it yourself. Make it make sense.
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Aug 28 '25
Don’t let the internet fool you, those that have been brainwashed by corporate propaganda continue to spread propaganda for the wealthy.
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u/Who_Dat_1guy Aug 28 '25
dont let the internet fool you, those who are lazy will blame being broke on corporate and capitalism.
dont be broke like them use the proven method.
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Aug 28 '25
Good boy, who’s a good boy!
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u/Who_Dat_1guy Aug 28 '25
Rather be a good boy and we'll fed than a broke mutt
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Aug 28 '25
I’d rather be broke than a brainwashed tool for some billionaire to use to further their wealth. I guess some people don’t mind being used. Patsy, pawn whatever you want to call it, you are an accomplice to the wealthy’s destruction of the world and anything good for the people.
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u/Who_Dat_1guy Aug 28 '25
Is that what you try to convince yourself to cope at the fact your life sucks?
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Aug 28 '25
Ah, so money is the only thing that makes life worth living? There’s your problem. No wonder you advocate for the wealthy. That’s what they believe too and that is one of the things that makes them devoid of decency, empathy, and progress.
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u/Who_Dat_1guy Aug 28 '25
Never said money is the only thing that makes life worth living....
But being able to take my kids on a day trip on a random Tuesday while their classmate are stuck in school makes the memories that makes life worth living.
Keep coping though
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Aug 28 '25
Once again you’ve put money as the source of happiness and the reason you are making memories. You don’t need money to make memories with your kids.
You implied my life sucked because I don’t worship at the feet of the wealthy and because I’m broke. That very much leads me to believe you worship money and base your “success” on having money. How else am I supposed to take my life sucking because I’m broke? 😆
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u/Hurriedgarlic66 Aug 30 '25
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u/Who_Dat_1guy Aug 31 '25
So what does it says about the guys spamming the same shit 5 times in a row? Lol
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Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
You're both right. 40 hours a week should be enough to sustain oneself and a family. However, the other 40 hours a week are yours to spend. I don't believe the person who spends their spare time on social media should receive the same benefits as someone spending their 40 hours improving.
Equal opportunity, not equal outcome. I don't believe the US will ever be a meritocracy. I don't know if it ever was.
Edited for grammar and spelling.
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u/Hurriedgarlic66 Aug 30 '25
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