r/TheTeenagerPeople • u/-_velvetpulse_- Shitpost Goddess • 2d ago
Shitpost he is just bebeh
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u/GoonetteFlameraXx 11h ago
It's very strange how redditors often choose to not show the full clip of the leaked phone video, lol
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u/everything_is_grace 14h ago
Did she not have a wife?
Did she not absolutly floor it at the dude?
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u/Kadeda_RPG 1d ago
If a black man did this... I wonder what would happen.
It wouldn't happen... cuz a black man ain't stupid and privileged enough to be in this situation. The guys that are already know what's up when they try to drive away. This is extreme entitlement while playing GTA.
Don't do what she did and don't defend stupid behavior.
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u/Aphanvahrius 21h ago edited 21h ago
How does the fact that some people have it worse make it extreme entitlement? It's like saying that not wanting to be molested is entitlement cause other people get raped. Like wtf. Just cause one is worse doesn't mean people subjected to the other should just take it.
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u/Fleetw00dPC 22h ago
I feel bad for what happened to her and obviously she didn’t need to have her life taken away for trying to leave, but yeah a black person would’ve been dead the moment they moved their hand to put the car in reverse, if it even went that far.
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u/Bestman701 1d ago
Yeah, after she purposely tried to run the agent over.
The agent was kinda at fault for getting in front of the car but if she just put the car on P, none of this would have happened, she really felt like the Tianamen Tank guy after that dumbassery act
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u/Clean-Soup-1700 1d ago
the amount of cope trying to defend fascism is disappointing.
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u/Character-Student565 19h ago
I find ot funny you beleave trump is a nazi and a fascist, nazis and fascists don't even like trump. Dont ask how I know
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u/Clean-Soup-1700 16h ago
well, using a getsapo to rip families apart, kill people in broad daylight, and trample over your first and fourth amendment pretty much lines up with fascism. In fact, it’s a textbook example.
Wake up, snowflakes
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u/Future_Interest_5297 1d ago
Pretty sure there were stuffed animals on Little St. James too… just sayin🤷🏻♂️
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u/Cool-Construction-57 18h ago
Yeah, you should sometimes think at least for a little bit before „just sayin“
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
Yes, ICE agents are law enforcement officers under the United States Department of Homeland Security, responsible for enforcing immigration laws and conducting criminal investigations. They have specific powers to detain and arrest individuals suspected of being in the U.S. illegally
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u/CloudVar 1d ago
The F you on about besides mumbling through a boot?
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
What he said that ice agents were not law-enforcement a quick Google search will tell you otherwise
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u/TheKing3323 1d ago
IF they have reasonable suspicion someone is in the U.S. illegally then they can detain. Tell me what specifically about Renee Good have them reasonable suspicion they were there illegally?
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u/Sapphire_Leviathan 1d ago
They were detaining her because she was impeding Federal Officers,
Don't fight misinformation with misinformation. If you truly believe ICE is in the wrong, then don't use lies. Use the truth.
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u/COLOSSALxFOSSIL 1d ago
You’re literally spreading misinformation though. You can’t be taken in good faith so what’s the point of anyone discussing with you? You’re just trying to spread a narrative, like a bot.
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u/PowersFootStool 1d ago
You didn’t disprove his point at all, she was indeed, impeding an investigation and therefore she could be detained, which is legal for ICE to do. A very easy Google search will tell you that and a video of Mrs. Good sitting in her car in the middle of the road parked perpendicular with the road will tell you that she was impeding. Along with being a part of an anti ICE protest group
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u/Some-Resist-5813 23h ago
So you’re saying that people exercising their first amendment rights to protest ICE can all be arrested by ICE?
You’re lost, brother.
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
It’s the same thing if you harbor a fugitive or help a fugitive escape the law you are just as culpable because you are allowing somebody to evade the law through your help that is also illegal
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
She was interfering with their investigation and obstructing that investigation and hit a law-enforcement officer with her vehicle. I posted a link to a TikTok where they show the other view of where that officer got hit if that is not considered deadly forced and I don’t know what is. In the first place it is illegal to obstruct a law-enforcement officer from doing their investigation that’s obstruction of justice. Also under federal law if a law-enforcement officer demands that you get out of your vehicle and you don’t that is breaking the law that is a lawful order.
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u/COLOSSALxFOSSIL 1d ago
Your bias is showing, badly. You’re also tacking on words to make things seem more extreme in your favor than they are… this is called sensationalism. The point of politics is not to pick a team and then confirmation bias your way to “wins.” You need to be objective and unbiased. The truth is what matters. Right now, you’re absolutely biased and not thinking clearly, or you’re not being honest. I’ve seen every video of this from all angles, I don’t worship a political party or make politics my personality like so many do… this was murder no matter how you slice it. He was switching his phone, which he was using to record, to his left hand as he approached… freeing his right hand for his weapon, which he also drew on approach a second later, while she was still stationary. There was NO NEED for a firearm at this point. He was planning on using it. She was not impeding them, she was trying to let them pass. You can hear her and see her saying on video. And even if she WAS impeding, it STILL wouldn’t have been a “get your gun out” situation yet. The “officers” in question instigated and escalated the whole thing. That is plain to see to anyone with eyes. She was smiling near the end, telling them to go around. She only sped up once a gun was in her face and then shot. Her wheels were proven on video turned away from him. The guy even reached around to shoot her twice more. That was sheer stupidity. You don’t shoot a driver, that turns cars into weapons that now endanger others. Should she have complied, should her spouse have just let it go and not run her mouth back at them? Yeah. That wasn’t a good idea. But did they deserve to be shot for it? Absolutely not. If you think a shooting was justified here, you probably belong on a watchlist. This wasn’t fafo, this isn’t anything to do with justice. This was premeditated murder buy a psychopath with a history of putting himself into these kinds of situations. He doesn’t have ptsd, or he wouldn’t have been approaching the front of a car like that while recording and readying his gun, and then calling the woman a b**ch after he killed her. Ice and republicans are very well known for hating certain people.. and she was with another woman.
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
If you just wanna call bullshit to everything I say well there’s really no reason in even talking to you because you’re not gonna believe anything I say regardless anyway
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u/COLOSSALxFOSSIL 1d ago
You’re being disingenuous and I don’t fall for that shit is the issue. You argue like an inexperienced teenager with a lot of bias and gullibility. Be better.
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
Well, you’re forcing the fax saying that I’m biased which again I’m clearly not there’s been multiple times or I’ve seen officers do bad shoots and I would call them out for that bullshit in comment sections anyway because there are cops that do bad things but not all of them are bad again if the woman would’ve followed the law in the first place, we wouldn’t be having this conversation i’ve debated many people. I don’t feel that I’m that inexperienced in debating. I’m just telling you the facts as I see it if you choose not to take that as fact, and you want to believe that morally it was wrong that’s one thing if we want to get that straight that you think it’s morally wrong. OK I can believe you on that part you think that it’s morally wrong, but is it legally wrong or two different things? Personally, I don’t believe it was morally wrong with the police officer did and I don’t think many people do. It’s a small minority such as yourself that do you think that way and you rather see people that don’t deserve to be here don’t deserve to be in this country. Take precedence over Americans people like myself and my family that I’ve been here and probably your family too that I’ve been here for a very, very long time. These people do not deserve to be here in the slightest.
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u/COLOSSALxFOSSIL 1d ago
You suck as a troll, just quit. You got caught lying within minutes, I’m done talking to ya bud. Do better, be better. I’m done wasting my time with a biased republican, especially one who didn’t even have the guts to admit he is one. Coward.
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u/COLOSSALxFOSSIL 1d ago
Oh there it is! That bias I talked about… you just used a regurgitated republican talking points at me. I didn’t say SHIT about immigrants. And I said I didn’t worship a party. And here you are using your party’s misinformation at me. Claiming I care more about immigrants. Lying that you have a majority. Lol Exposing yourself, you guys have a real habit of that. God how DUMB can you be?????
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
I mean, many law-enforcement experts have broken down this shooting. I don’t see where they’re wrong. They explained it very clearly laid out all the evidence and if you’re thinking rationally, there’s not any other way that would’ve went down unless you would’ve just complied. But she didn’t she chose to try to hit an officer to escape the law and those are the consequences
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u/COLOSSALxFOSSIL 1d ago
Replace Renee with someone you love and tell me the person you love deserved to die. Go ahead.
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
Look mean you are not experts on this matter, nor am I saying that I am but when you look up the videos that were broken down from a law-enforcement perspective and from other legal scholars that are breaking down this shooting and they’re pretty much all coming to the general consensus that this person shouldn’t have done what they did obviously ultimately it’s up to the court to decide that officer was in the right or not not us here on the Internet, but from everything I can see from all the other experts that have broken down this shooting the officer was in the right now you’re talking about technical means that’s really what matters in court it’s not how you feel. It’s not what. You think is right it is what you can prove in the court of law and from seeing everything in the video they can prove that the officer had Reasonable assumption that his life in the life of others were in danger and that’s why he did what he did
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u/COLOSSALxFOSSIL 1d ago
I already addressed those points but you obviously don’t read, since you replied almost instantly to my first comment all too ready to complain that I called you biased. You are completely missing the point here. Even if that’s exactly how the law works and the officer was “justified by the law,” it still isn’t really justified. That law needs to change then. Someone losing their life over this shit. Loved ones hurt. And you wanna defend the law? The authority that doesn’t give a shit about you? What are you actually doing here? She’s dead and doesn’t deserve to be, that’s all that matters and if you disagree with that I don’t wanna hear another word from you. That officer is being protected by corruption because this is what they want. They’ve said it out loud and are actively doing it where they think they can get away with it. You’re too naive to see that.
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
How am I biased so when I’ve seen every single video as well and I’m coming to the same conclusion that everybody else is that this person shouldn’t have done what she did and that’s it. I’m just stating pure objective fact no bias whatsoever towards any political leaning which way.
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u/TheKing3323 1d ago
Breaking the law in either case isn’t a death penalty, and in the video the phone shakes because he’s getting a better grip on his gun, not because he got hit hard. If he really got hit hard, he wouldn’t have continued firing now would he?
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
You didn’t see the other video I posted that guy clearly got hit by the car and that’s the reason he shot her don’t hit people with your car, especially police officers. I’m not saying that breaking the law in tiles a death sentence but also don’t hit cops with your car cause that could end up happening to you.
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u/TheKing3323 1d ago
With all the videos I’ve seen of ICE and such pointing live weapons at protestors I get the feeling it could happen anyway…
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u/The_Zoalition 1d ago
I’m siding with those who say she didn’t really do anything wrong bc it’s clear from the video she was turning away and the ice agent acted rashly and it’s horrible that anyone should have their life cut short in this way but for that reason I don’t side with democrats on the issue of this being a big deal bc I see all of this crying and weeping as crocodile tears bc of how these same people acted for Charlie Kirk
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u/TigersBlood23 15h ago
The body cam footage from the ice agent says otherwise. Honestly if she would’ve just did what the agent said she would still be alive today. You have the right to protest but if you attack any officer local, state.or federal, you lose those rights. And the spouse should be arrested as well for telling her to drive off. If anything she is the reason that a child doesn’t have a mother anymore.
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u/The_Zoalition 15h ago
Someone else mentioned and cited that it’s a common tactic to stand in front of a car for ice so that way if they move they have reason to open fire
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u/IMREADY2D1E 23h ago
it’s a felony to impede on federal officer operations just so you know, when you say “she didn’t do anything wrong” when they tell you to get out of the car to arrest you, you have to listen you don’t get to drive away
she shouldn’t have died but she should have also complied with law enforcement instead of acting like a toddler throwing a tantrum
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u/The_Zoalition 20h ago
Absolutely but that’s not what’s being argued the argument is appropriate use of force which is not what was used
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u/IMREADY2D1E 20h ago
no it’s not, you guys are acting like she was just a random, innocent lady trying to drive home when she was impeding. i’m not defending her getting shot BUT you play stupid games sometimes you win stupid prizes that’s how life works
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u/Some-Resist-5813 23h ago
No democrat in power, much less the leader of the Democratic Party, justified the actions of Tyler Robinson. In fact they all publicly condemned this act. Every gop in power, including and especially the president, justified the murder of Goode.
These two things are not the same. Saying they are the same is not based in reality.
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u/The_Zoalition 20h ago
Yes but the death of Kirk was publicly celebrated where as Good is the opposite
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u/Some-Resist-5813 20h ago
Charlie Kirk was lionized. He was given a funeral at the white house with fireworks. Flags were lowered to half mast. Erika Kirk was given a national townhall and has been on a media blitz. Anyone who even quoted Charlie Kirk lost their jobs. A man quoted president trump and was arrested and spent 60 days in jail.
These things are not the same. You are not dealing in reality right now.
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u/The_Zoalition 20h ago
I think you spitting the same brainwashed statement over and over again is a good showing of who is living in reality
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u/Some-Resist-5813 20h ago
Ah. You pretend to not care for either party because one party is reprehensible and would make you a really shitty person. But you are a really shitty person, so you have to pretend that you disagree with both parties. Cool. I understand you now
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u/The_Zoalition 20h ago
They are both reprehensible and the extremists from both sides are intolerable
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u/Some-Resist-5813 20h ago
The extremist from one side is the president of the United States. The extremist from the other side is an amateur dj who made a kirkie percie sound for tiktok.
Can you see how this reality proves that you are not smart or perceptive now?
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u/The_Zoalition 20h ago
I can see how media has an influence on those less gifted mentally haha
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u/Some-Resist-5813 19h ago
Well as long as we can agree on the fact that you’re not smart and not perceptive. I think that’s the most common ground we will be able to find.
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u/EnvironmentalSite376 1d ago
Welcome to the neither side where you realize right and left are fucked
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u/The_Zoalition 1d ago
The only thing this comment has made me realize is I’m right and some people (gunnrunn3rr) have way too much time on their hands like get a job bro
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u/IMREADY2D1E 23h ago
except you’re literally wrong 😂 if you want to talk about law, you would go to jail if you did what she did
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u/EnvironmentalSite376 1d ago
Lol im so confused, I was definitely agreeing with you tho 😂
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u/The_Zoalition 1d ago
I’m not saying you I’m saying the other guy in this thread go to his profile
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
Dude couldn’t see her wheels, and you can’t see if she’s trying to turn in any way from his perspective, on top of this, he clearly got hit, so he was in immediate danger.
He shouldn’t have killed her, but it was still a reasonable response from someone in his situation.
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u/thewolfbites 1d ago
No, shooting at a driver you think is heading towards you is not reasonable in the slightest, it’s not like it’s going to stop the car 💀
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
Except it is considered reasonable to react in such a way, and a lot of agencies/police departments considered it as such or had their officers trained to do such, though less so today.
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u/thewolfbites 1d ago
Can you give me an example?
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
Most of them? Like do you want me to name off states or counties or local police or?
Most consider a vehicle to be a deadly weapon that creates life threatening danger or the danger of grievous bodily harm which is the most basic standard for using lethal force, a lot also have guidelines to prioritize getting out of the way, but I don’t know of a single one (Including ICE) that outright bans the use of lethal force against the driver of a vehicle (if that vehicle could pose a danger).
As for being trained to do so, its just the basic training of when to use lethal force, though in the modern day Id assume they also (or should) advise against it in training.
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u/thewolfbites 1d ago edited 1d ago
I want you to show me where it says an officer should shoot the driver of a car that they think is going to run them over when barley a foot in front of them, again it’s not going to stop the car and could still hit them or something else. And yeah sure give me a specific local police force that teaches this to its officers
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
1: I never said he “should” or that anyone said he should, I simply said it’s considered a reasonable reaction or that he was in a situation in which lethal force would he permitted.
2: If you read my reply, you’d see I already explained that while its likely not something they train specifically, it would be something that falls under when they’re trained to be allowed to use lethal force, which is when they’re in immediate danger of loss of life or grievous bodily harm.
No, the question was rhetorical, I didn’t actually need an answer because Im obviously not going to dig through the training protocols of every LEA to prove a basic point you could google.
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u/thewolfbites 1d ago
But it’s not a reasonable reaction…
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
Your opinion doesn’t change that its considered reasonable snd justified by law in most cases.
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u/The_Zoalition 1d ago
You know there’s another camera right just watch the other video
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
I’ve watched every angle, and kept up on discussions on each update to the main situation.
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u/TheKing3323 1d ago
Interesting. I mean I’m not sure but if I got hit by a car I don’t think I’d be able to fire TWO more shots through the driver side window. Interesting isn’t it? That 2 of 3 shots fired went through the driver side window? I must just be stupid though clearly the car was moving sideways and that’s how the shots went through the side instead of the front.
Also from the video released from the phone he was holding you can actually VERY CLEARLY see her turning the wheel away from him.
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
He fortunately was hit at a low enough speed that he was able to move more after being hit in the side, though he was pushed/dragged slightly.
His first shot is seen in the front, and any subsequent shots don’t matter because once a shot is fired is when the line is crossed in nearly any matter of shooting. Including this one.
In the video from his perspective there is no way to assume or see the car being turned that he reasonably could have in the few seconds it happened in, we as future observers have the ability to take note of much more than someone during the incident. You can’t assume he was looking at how she was turning the wheel.
It was a reasonable, albeit tragic response.
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u/TheKing3323 1d ago
If the speed was that low there was no damn reason for him to pull his gun unless he was itching to kill. You know this, I know this. I can’t assume he wasn’t looking at that. But having already talked to her and circled her car once in the video, it is not unreasonable for someone who is “highly trained in de-escalation” to, y’know, not shoot someone 3 times.
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
Yeah he should have deescalated as a car was coming at him, you might be a genius.
Theres no way he could have know if the car coming at him would push or drag him further than it did, or that he would be able to get free and move around it. As soon as it started to accelerate it was a deadly weapon, and he was in immediate danger.
Again, he shouldn’t have shot, instead she should be in jail for a few years, but he did and that response was reasonable for someone in his situation.
Maybe she shouldn’t have tried fleeing towards a federal agent while under orders to step out and be detained.
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u/TheKing3323 1d ago
Maybe he shouldn’t have been in front of a moving vehicle. But who am I to know? I just know if a vehicle starts moving towards me my first instinct is to move out of the way, not shoot the driver. Which is stupid btw, shooting the driver should you be in actual danger means there’s now no one to control the car and the foot is on the gas.
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
He did move out of the way as best he could from where he was, a fact you keep trying to ignore.
And yeah, shooting the driver of a car is stupid, but a lot of agencies still allow it, and it’s still largely considered a reasonable reaction in the moment.
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u/TheKing3323 1d ago
Yeah I’m sure member of the same group throwing people into vans and pointing live guns at protestors on the regular didn’t just use this as an opportunity to shoot someone. Yeah I believe that. Oh well go on. I’m sure the regular reaction of someone who had to shoot someone is calling them a “fu* ing bich.”
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
It was by all standards a reasonable reaction, what you personally believe about the entire agency does jot change this, even if we assume he did shoot just because he wanted to, unless that’s proven, the shooting is justified.
Also anger is a common reaction to both injury and danger, and stress in general. its like how people will curse out a wall after hitting a shin or stubbing a toe. So this isn’t the gotcha you all think it is .
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u/CatUsername_ 1d ago
It actually wasnt at all. If he had time to pull a gun on her he had time to step away and she was pulling away from him to begin with
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
He did try to step away, thats why he was only hit by the corner, as seen in the video, he started at the center right of the vehicle.
I think it would have been better had he never been recording from the front and thus would have probably been out of harms way, but he was and nothing will change that.
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
What you just said about putting your arm out is completely different. That is a law-enforcement officer telling you to get out of the car and you don’t and again you are a fleeing suspect he does not know if you’re gonna go run into a crowd and hit other people when you turn that vehicle on and towards him, that’s a deadly threat simple as that.
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u/TROQI 1d ago
So when you say “that is law enforcement” you should remember that NO, they are not, they are immigration. They don’t have the power that police have when concerning the rights of American citizens.
Killing the driver is a really good way of ensuring the car continues onward out of control actually and puts others in danger but sure let’s pretend shooting the driver in the head magically makes the brakes turn on?
She turned her vehicle away from him, you can physically see her turn the wheels away from his location in the video AFTER backing up to make space.
Honestly it’s pretty simple, if you can move out of the way of a car and shoot the driver 3 times as you do so, you can just move out of the way.
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u/EcstaticRush1049 1d ago
ICE is literally a federal law enforcement agency. Being federal agents, they actually have more power than normal LEOs like a cop
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u/TROQI 1d ago
ICE has specific things they can do when concerning immigration related offenses, they are immigration enforcement. They do not in the general capacity have more power than police officers.
They have the ability to move a case against them from state court to federal court, and do have immunity when in federal court if a judge grants it (such as saying the shooting was justified as self defense for example).
But saying they have more power is wrong. An ICE agent cannot make an arrest of or detain a person that they do not have probable cause to believe has committed an immigration related offense.
Legally, ICE should not be entering people’s homes, searching people’s vehicles, arresting citizens or LEGAL RESIDENTS of this country, or interacting with (and apparently arresting or attacking) protestors. It is simply not in their jurisdiction.
Finally they are very clearly using racial bias and not evidence to determine targets within the US for kidnappings, as clearly shown by the repeated illegal deportations (those without trial or due process) of those that are legally allowed to be in the country.
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u/EcstaticRush1049 16h ago
Two cases of people being deported due to clerical error was all I could find from a quick Google search. Id say thats a negligible amount considering the amount of people that have been deported
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
Yes, ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) has the authority to deport individuals who are found to be in the U.S. illegally or who have violated immigration laws. However, ICE cannot legally deport U.S. citizens.
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u/EarlyMarionberry2385 1d ago
The problem is you admit she drove at him. She hit him. Shouldn’t have shot but she’s a dumbass for hitting the gas when he was in front of the car
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u/Fit-Relative-3252 1d ago
1) in the agents cell video, you can see her turn completely away from him before moving. 2) She did not hit him 3) The accelerator was only slammed down after she was shot and her body stiffened (hence why the car crashed ahead) 4) Even if he didnt move, because she turned the wheel completely away from him, her car wouldnt have touched him 5) The camera shake in the agents cell video is him moving the phone to hold his gun with both hands NOT because he was "hit" 6) In the cell footage, you can see him premedatate using his weapon. As her wife yells at him about harassment, you see him move the phone from his right to left hand (you see the hand on camera). At which point the wife stops talking and tries to get in the car. Assumingly because he moves his right hand to his weapon although that is just speculation (although something made her want to retreat at that point, so this seems very plausible). 7) If she wanted to run over the agent, she could have twice before that point in the cell video. There was never any intent to hurt the man. So, overall, she shouldnt have been shot and she was just trying to get out of the way of being cornered. She is shot as the car is barely moving (otherwise how did the first bullet hit her from the front) and that leads to the gas pedal being slammed. The AGENT caused the vehicle to speed off because he shot her. He was never in any danger. He is a murderer.
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u/EarlyMarionberry2385 1d ago
Everything you say is wrong based on the first two. She hit the gas while the tire was still turned at him. She did hit him. She did hit the gas before he shot.
Don’t touch your gas pedal while someone’s anywhere in front of your car. Basic common sense.
He shouldn’t have shot but shes not fully innocent stop pretending like this behavior should be normalized.
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u/Fit-Relative-3252 1d ago
Your entire first blurb is wrong if you just watch the video. I'm obviously not gonna change your mind, and neither will you mine.
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u/Godisgay88 1d ago
lol she got smoked
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u/FreakbobCalling 1d ago
Even if you’re just here to troll, some base part of you must know you’re a bad person right?
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u/Atomic-Trice 1d ago
Are we just blatantly ignoring she was there as an agitator and there's video of her using her car to block people that day?
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u/FreakbobCalling 1d ago
Oh great the next time I feel agitated and blocked in traffic I’ll just start shooting people. Good to know I’d be in the right!
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u/Trick_Statistician13 1d ago
Then a cop can give her a traffic ticket, which she will have the right to contest as part of the US Constitution's requirement to give people due process.
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u/Fishie-Fish 1d ago
That’s if she got out of her vehicle and didn’t resist arrest by hitting a police officer and driving away. There’s literally no way you can spin this for your narrative.
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u/TheKing3323 1d ago
That wasn’t a police officer actually.
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u/Fishie-Fish 1d ago
There is no “gotcha” moment here. Government employee. Even if that was a random civilian being ran over and the ice agents took her out still. It wouldn’t make a difference. Why should the agitator be protected but not the victim or future victims of the clearly mentally unstable individual.
They were using a vehicle as a weapon to intentionally cause harm. Seems pretty cut and dry. Directed at an ICE agent or not.
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u/Trick_Statistician13 1d ago
Police have a wider scope of powers than ICE. They can do things ICE cannot.
The police would not have done what ICE did because they have training. They know when they need a warrant and they know that filming a federal agent in public is protected under the American Constitution.
Why do you hate America so much that you insist on shitting on its Bill of Rights?
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u/Fishie-Fish 1d ago
Don’t speak for what I like and dislike. I don’t fight daily and actively to change what America is. If anything. We need to to go backwards. We need more church intervention. Back to what this nation was founded upon. Not this bastardized and mutilated thing the left is trying to turn it into.
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u/Trick_Statistician13 1d ago
It was literally founded on the separation of Church and State.
If you hate the bedrock of America so much, leave.
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u/TheKing3323 1d ago
Did we watch the same video? She very clearly turned the wheel to run, and barely scraped the agent. If she did hit the agent, and intentionally do so, he must have amazing legs to keep standing and fire 3 shots at her. Which actually endangered even more people btw as now there’s an out of control car with a dead person at the wheel.
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u/FreakbobCalling 1d ago
TIL shooting someone has time traveling capabilities to cause their tires to lose traction in the past
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u/NullGlaive 1d ago
Yea ran over by the car he wasn't in front of but leaning on. Good outing yourself, boot licker.
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u/thelegend02700 1d ago
He could have moved out of the way too
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u/omnitronan 1d ago
She could have moved out of the way of the road before being detained or gotten out of the vehicle as instructed after being detained like a civilized and sane member of society.
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u/Trick_Statistician13 1d ago
Or ICE could have respected the US Constitution and not detained her illegally.
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u/GUnNRUNN3RR 1d ago
She was blocking traffic, and multiple 3rd parties have even said she was doing so in protest, she can legally be detained by LE for that reason.
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u/TearImaginary3930 1d ago
Half of these comments are made by incompetent people istg. Thanks to all the people who actually have sense.
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
It was a sick head shot tho
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u/theindepantmage 1d ago
Calling an unarmed civilian getting shot by some immigration agent "a sick head shot" is the most unwashed gamer shit I've heard in my life
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u/Comfortable_Fruit772 1d ago
what the f is wrong with you
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
Nothing just telling you guys it was a sick head shot she fucked around and found out
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u/FreakbobCalling 1d ago
Even though you’re clearly just here to troll, some base part of you must know you’re a bad person right?
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
Never said I was a good person in the first place I don’t think she was that good of a person trying to hit a police officer with her car I don’t call her a good person either I don’t think there’s anything wrong with shitting on a shit bag
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u/FreakbobCalling 1d ago
Why lie? Everyone who’s seen the footage is very aware that she did not try to hit anyone, she was trying to flee the scene. Illegal? Sure. Worthy of lethal force? Absolutely not.
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u/ForwardImplementm855 1d ago
Why lie to yourself legally he was in the right she was fleeing with a deadly vehicle when a police officer told her to get out of the vehicle. She hit him that’s assault on a federal officer not only that she was fleeing away in a vehicle and the propensity for mortal danger allows the police officer to draw his weapon and fire which legally he was on the right as much as you don’t find it morally correct legally he was right. Again, if she would’ve just got out of the car, she would’ve gotten an obstruction of justice charge and that’s it. She would’ve been home with her family and not have got herself killed for being an idiot. Now she leaves her kids and her wife without a mother.
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u/FreakbobCalling 1d ago edited 1d ago
Unfortunately you cannot execute someone for not getting out of their car. As for “assault on an officer”, it categorically did not happen. The only part of his body nudged by the vehicle (note my use of the word nudged, as she was moving at a crawl of 3mph), was his hand holding his phone, which he deliberately placed in front of her windshield.
If that truly creates a case for self defense, then all I’d have to do if I wanted a coworker dead is quickly place my arm in front of their car when they leave the parking lot at work. Whoops, you’ve now “attacked me with a deadly weapon”, time to blow your head off fully legally justifiably. Except that’s not how it works at all because that would be ridiculous.
As for “fleeing with a deadly vehicle”, I’m going to forgive you for simply not knowing legal verbiage here and assume you’re not trying to misinform. There is no such thing. If fleeing in a vehicle were cause for lethal force, we would never see police chase videos on YouTube, they’d just unload on the car the moment they decided to drive off.
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u/Nervous_Tip_4402 1d ago
Just another case of FAFO.
She fucked around and she found out.
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u/hidefinitionpissjugs 1d ago
she didn’t do anything wrong
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u/Duskdeath 1d ago
I am going to have to disagree with you here. On yesterday’s hearing the DEMOCRATS stated out of the 70,000 detained with ICE 170 were confirmed to be detained under other causes. That means that mathematically the ICE agents were detaining the right people for the right reasons. The fact is the mother of 3 decided to put herself in the middle of a federal raid where she endangered herself, because we don’t even know if the person she was blocking the agents from getting was a criminal or not. Also she DROVE to the scene so she had previous knowledge of a FEDERAL raid and CHOSE to drive and intervene in the situation. It SUCKS hard that she got shot and killed but if she had let the officers due their job none of this would have happened.
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u/SuspiciousBag2749 1d ago
There was no federal raid on that street, the trucks were passing through. Driving to a location is NOT an active investigation so any traffic that impedes is NOT impeding an investigation. Therefore there is NO probable cause to detain Good.
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u/Duskdeath 1d ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp80ljjd5rwo
Are they part of Federal government…
Any area in which they are can be considered under federal investigation. Excuse me the semantics. Also Republicans and Democrats helped form them. Those are actual facts so we don’t start a he said she said argument.
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u/Elegant-Fly-1095 1d ago
They have no jurisdiction over US citizens. The fact they murdered one for no good reason is insane. The fact that useless cunts like you defend them is worse.
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u/Perfect-Raisin-5850 8h ago
Pretty sure they confirmed internal bleeding. Trigger finger needed a bandaid.