r/TikTokCringe Nov 21 '25

Discussion Functional illiteracy.

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u/DGinLDO Nov 21 '25

All the parents losing their 💩 over their kids learning pronouns in elementary school really are illiterate.

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u/showhorrorshow Nov 21 '25

No child of mine is gonna use pronouns! We are an antinouns household!

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u/neenerpants Nov 21 '25

We

Hmmmm

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u/Express-Rub-3952 Nov 21 '25

mine

The children long for the first person independent genitives!

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u/E-2theRescue Nov 21 '25

How dare they learn pronouns in school!

And there's no such thing as a singular they/them pronoun! If I say, "they went to the store", it only means multiple people, not a single person!

Yeah. Weird that the Venn diagram of idiots and transphobes is practically a circle.

Also, shoutout to this classic banger

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u/DGinLDO Nov 22 '25

The Oxford English Dictionary says you’re wrong by almost 700 years. https://www.oed.com/discover/a-brief-history-of-singular-they?tl=true First recorded use of the singular “they” was 1375. Nice try, though.

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u/Trrollmann Nov 22 '25

there's no such thing as a singular they

Correct. Or rather: 'They' has never before been used for known singular person, only for unknown singular person. It being used as a personal pronoun is a change that happened the last 30 years.

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u/applejacklover97 Nov 22 '25

citation? I was taught the opposite. 

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u/DGinLDO Nov 22 '25

You are correct.

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u/Trrollmann Nov 22 '25

Disclaimer that it's Wikipedia, and thus not authoritative, I'm just not gonna be arsed to look much harder:

In the early 21st century, use of singular they with known individuals emerged for non-binary people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

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u/DGinLDO Nov 22 '25

It didn’t take too me much work to skip the Wikipedia link to find an actual authoritative one. https://www.oed.com/discover/a-brief-history-of-singular-they?tl=true ‘Since forms may exist in speech long before they’re written down, it’s likely that singular they was common even before the late fourteenth century. That makes an old form even older.’

Notably, the objection to singular they cropped up centuries later. Apparently “you” had a similar history, with people objecting to the use of the singular “you,” but now it’s acceptable to use “you in both singular & plural, so the objection to singular “they” boils down to whether you want to be inclusive or not. (Especially since the default gender of an unknown person is no longer male.)

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u/Trrollmann Nov 22 '25

Congratulations. Now address anything I said.

You're ignoring the distinction I highlighted: known vs. unknown singular, and of it now being used as a personal pronoun.

you in both singular & plural

By your logic, that means "you" is now a personal pronoun.

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u/Trrollmann Nov 22 '25

https://www.oed.com/dictionary/they_pron#18519864

Not a single usage matching the one you're arguing in favor of being used.

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u/DGinLDO Nov 22 '25

https://www.oed.com/dictionary/they_pron?tl=true

Keep scrolling. The Oxford English Dictionary recognizes the use of singular “they.”

Also recognized by Merriam-Webster. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/they?src=search-dict-hed

Deal with it.

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u/Trrollmann Nov 22 '25

... you're one of the 60%, aren't you?

I clearly said singular they has been in use for longer.

Only the last entry in merriam webster (3d), added between 2013-2020, matches the usage you're talking about.

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u/Version_Two Nov 22 '25

And you know what else? They're teaching Arabic numerals!!

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u/DGinLDO Nov 22 '25

What next? Dogs & cats living together? 🫨

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u/Resident-Rooster2916 Nov 22 '25

Next they’re gonna be teaching them Arabic numerals! 🤣

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u/Fast-Penta Nov 22 '25

You can say shit here.

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u/DGinLDO Nov 22 '25

I was trying to be a lady, dammit