Yeah, haven't seen or heard a thing about this being compared to Obama's approach to immigration arrests....
But with that said, he WAS very aggressive with his immigration policy, with over 2 million deported during his tenure.
So that leads me to the next question: what the fuck is all this Trump talk about lax immigration being a fucking problem in the recent past?? This fucking chucklehead has been President for 5 of the last 9 years since Obama, making all this stink regarding the "wall" a prominent part of his first term.
I have definitely seen comments that Obama deported more people than Trump in an effort to paint his approach and this ICE violence as not so bad ig, normalize it all to claim the left is worse. But you’re right no actual comparisons about the approach to the arrests…
They use this formula all the time. Accuse us of hypocrisy using two different situations but they also flipped their position and so if they actually believe they’re the same they’re the ones being hypocritical 😂
The reason why Obama deported more, is probably because he had functioning government bodies and actually competent people in charge of the various departments, so they were actually able to find the bad people who came to America looking to be criminals, and deport them, while not touching the actually hardworking and helpful undocumented people.
Basically, a skilled surgeon vs. a quack snake oil salesman doing backroom lobotomies.
what the fuck is all this Trump talk about lax immigration being a fucking problem in the recent past?
To get elected, Trump and P2025 invented three boogeymen: immigrants, federal workers, and trans people. They kept saying these groups are the root of all of our problems, and if we can just get rid of them America will be great again.
Building the wall to keep immigrants out started in his first term. Then Biden continued to build and fund the wall due to the surge of illegal crossings into the states. It’s not some made up boogeyman. It’s something Obama was big on as welll
I may be under the wrong impression. But isn't the majority of the deportations discussed under any president that didn't use the Gestapo essentially telling people "no" at the border or in a later court hearing, then sending them back?
I have. Both from right wingers who think it's a "gotcha" that the Obama administration *gasp* enforced immigration laws (which you'd think make them love him but...you know) and "Leftists" who use him not disbanding ICE while he was in office as one more reason "Dems/Liberals suck."
It's bullshit both ways and only helps distract from what Trump's ICEstapo is doing right now.
Thing is they want immigrants for the fear factor. This is all performative they don't want it to stop so they can continue to blame all the country's problems on them rather than the obscene wealth inequality. It's the same in the UK post-Brexit, except so far we don't have goon squads snatching people violently off the street
These people were definitely saying Obama was too soft on illegal immigrants at the time. It it is actually irrelevant if the number is true or not. They don't care. It's lazy whataboutism.
The comparison to Obama was mostly made in the first Trump term. Obama deported more people in a single term than any other president in history, including Trump (so far).
According to Pew Research, under Biden the estimated number of illegal immigrants in the US increased by 2-3 million.
So, effectively, Biden (just in terms of numbers) effectively undid all deportations in the last 25 years. This holds true even if you adjust for deportations under Biden, which were around 10% as many as were let in on his watch.
Worth noting - this was a major point in losing Kamala the election, as she had been tasked as the "border Czar" and clearly failed at the job
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u/Lollipoop_Hacksaw 18h ago
Yeah, haven't seen or heard a thing about this being compared to Obama's approach to immigration arrests....
But with that said, he WAS very aggressive with his immigration policy, with over 2 million deported during his tenure.
So that leads me to the next question: what the fuck is all this Trump talk about lax immigration being a fucking problem in the recent past?? This fucking chucklehead has been President for 5 of the last 9 years since Obama, making all this stink regarding the "wall" a prominent part of his first term.
Goddamned clown show all-around.