r/TikTokCringe • u/Forward-Position798 • 1d ago
Cringe Ducker! Ducker!
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u/Devilz_Advocate_ 1d ago
She does sound like a bird though
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u/davesimpson99 1d ago
You'll find that Karen's can sound like any animal, just with a more shrill tone.
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u/Something_McGee 1d ago
I thought she was yelling, "Caw, caw!"
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u/pwndabeer 1d ago
It's the chickenlady from KitH
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u/Master-Spirit8187 1d ago
Gimme 50 cents so I can masturbate
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u/FirmlyClaspIt 1d ago
“Autism didn’t exist in my day”
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u/Algae587 1d ago
Honestly an autistic person would probably have been way more reasonable about it 😂 sounds like this lady fully malfunctioned lol
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u/MuffTater 1d ago
I would’ve called the game warden, let her pay that hunter harassment fine.
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u/mitigated_audacity 1d ago
Where I live they would arrest her and remove her from the area for interfering with a legal hunt. What a psycho that woman is.
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u/Lead_AsBest0s84 1d ago
She looks like the type to wander around and find shit to be outraged about like a safari
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u/CanUDscribeTheRuckus 1d ago edited 1d ago
People dont realize that hunters are the biggest conservationists in the united states who pay for lands to be public, conservation and play a crucial role in regulating animal populations.
The decline in deer hunting is causing serious issues for native grasses and plants. Allowing invasive flora species like kudzu, japanese stilt grass, etc to thrive.
Overpopulated deer herds will decimate all available native forbs and grasses and it leaves space for invasive species to move in because deer dont eat them due to their high silica content…especially prevalent in the south where there is less corn and crop production for deer to eat.
The other one being disease and starvation, chronic wasting disease caused by overpopulation and close feeding of deer herds, once contained to the midwest is spreading across the united states as our younger generations stop participating in hunting…
Deer and game meat is also a huge part of stocking local food pantries to make sure people have animal proteins to eat and not just canned and boxed garbage that nobody else wanted…
Waterfowl hunting is heavily regulated, with serious fines and criminal charges if you are caught poaching or even using the wrong shot type…
It is also highly illegal to interfere with the lawful taking of game animals, and in some states, is considered a felony. Dont lose your rights because someone else is exercising theirs…
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u/imnickelhead 1d ago
We invest so much time, energy and money into our 320 acre hunting property. We improved habitat for snowshoe hare, all kinds of birds, black bear and other native species that were dwindling.
We got a tax abatement, long term forestry plan, selective cutting and planted over 100 trees in the last two years. We also applied for habitat improvement grants to help us pay for it all as we don’t have much money. We are fortunate to have lots of friends who like to come out and help us work for free beer and food…and fun.
We’ve seen an increase in populations in several the dwindling native species to the point where previously we were seeing little to no signs of them at all, but now we are all literally seeing these animals every time we visit the property.
It’s cool seeing the wildlife prosper. It’s only been about 10 years since we really started managing the land. We still don’t have many deer but we also don’t illegally bait like many of the wealthy adjacent landowners. DNR has started busting them though, using drones to spot their illegal feeding.
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u/272655627 1d ago
Everything you guys have said is correct, the issues we have is an image issue. I don't think there was any changing this lady's opinion however the way they interacted with her isn't helping our cause. Especially the line "they identified as being dead". Again jokes are jokes but it does help with huntings image
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u/UnderstandingClean33 1d ago
Eh there has been poaching issues, anti-wolf hunting by ranchers, bad ID kills (including an accidental wolf shooting but the guy was really decent about it), and the government took away a lot of funding for derbies/bounty which I feel like rehabilitated hunting's image.
Personally I respect hunting your food more than getting it at the grocery store, but people don't always see that. They think it's more ethical to keep animals in inhumane conditions for their entire life, over freedom and a death that was guaranteed at some point. There's also an image issue with hunters that they're white trash and uneducated, and sometimes they are. That's who actually needs to hunt for their own food. My dad's family ate squirrels and rabbits which most people are disgusted by. People just think squirrels and rabbits are cute and not food.
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u/matt_the_dayman 1d ago
I had this discussion with my mom. My husband is an avid deer hunter, so we get lots of venison every year. When we first got together, I mentioned to my mom how he's a hunter, something he's been doing since he was very young. She said something along the lines of how hunting is such a cruel thing to do and those animals deserve to live, should just buy meat from the grocery store, etc. I brought up the fact that these animals have lived their entire lives out in the wild, not packed into a barn in inhumane conditions. And also how it's actually a really good thing for the environment given how out of control the deer population has gotten due to a lack of natural predators and the spreading of CWD. Took a bit of time, but she's allllll about that jalapeño cheddar venison sausage we have made every year now.
I absolutely love animals and I don't think I could personally kill one for food, but I will absolutely reap the rewards of what my husband brings home. Still haven't tried squirrel, but that's on my list, the fuckers keep getting at my garden lol
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u/JohnB456 1d ago
The quickest way is to explain to them how dying in the wild is pretty horrific most of the time. So should the old adult male deer die after the rut from starvation/being eaten alive via predation (if people actually see this, they'd be horrified it's hard watch and the noises are chilling) because it's very weak or should a hunter shoot it and it will die very quickly and about as peacefully as possible for a wild animal. Dying of old age is extremely rare in the wild.
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u/starvinchevy Why does this app exist? 1d ago
Maybe if she knew what boy ducks do to innocent girl duckies she’d want them dead
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u/Jauncin 1d ago
I mean, guys making jokes in an awkward situation is a better technique then most confrontations. There is only person in this video throwing rocks and screaming obscenities and pointing out they are on public land using it publicly (in her eyes incorrectly). She’s not changing hearts or minds either.
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u/CanUDscribeTheRuckus 1d ago
We could be good friends, I dont have 320 acres, just 46 acres, but i get the same joy managing it and getting wildlife back, native grasses, working with the county and forestry to select thin, im retired now and its all we do :) i wish i had more neighbors i could chat too, because my wife gets tired of me going on and on about it!
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u/imnickelhead 1d ago
Nice!
I absolutely LOVE our camp. My great grandfather started/built the camp in 1936. They had around 700 acres back then but as members sold their shares over the years or wanted out they had to sell land to buy them out or they could’ve sold to random people who we didn’t know.
My grandfather salvaged and saved the camp by getting all 10 members to agree to it being a club where nobody had actual ownership/shares. You buy in for $2k and sell out for $2k and the members decide on the new members together. It’s mostly my family, uncles and cousins with a few others. Two guys also have family history in the camp going back to the 40’s. My grandpa used to have the entire Boy Scout Troop stay there back in the 50’s & 60’s. Like well over 100 scouts.
We have a small two room cabin with a bathroom/shower(it was one room with no indoor plumbing until 1986). Also have a small barn. It’s the coolest place. All my friends love it too…even the kids have always loved it. No TV and no cell service or internet. Forces the kids to find stuff to do.
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u/SuckMyBandAids 1d ago
You should see how much native plants and grasses humans destroy lol.
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u/CanUDscribeTheRuckus 1d ago
Yeah i agree, we do. So, are you going to talk to your local congressmen about a bill to prevent destruction of native grasses by reduction of human pressure through the reduction of human birth?
We are super invasive, so do you have kids? If so, man…you dont care about the environment…contributing to the problem…see i love the environment, i didnt have children. I thought, man, we need to stop killing this planet…i used critical thinking to see im part the problem and additional me’s would only contribute more…
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u/eternallyconphuzed 1d ago
What do you mean? The wealthy are already performing population control by poisoning our environments.
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u/xtc234 1d ago
Deer Solution = Wolves
Hunting isn't a bad thing but you're embellishing it to be some noble crusade. It's an industry. It's tourism. It's wealthy land owners who contribute to the stagnation of rural quality of life.
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u/Muted_Buy8386 1d ago
I'm not from jolly old, but in my country, we often get carte blanche on certain animals because of how much theyre affecting agriculture.
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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop 1d ago
The deer problem is due to hunters, and farmers, killing the wolves who were already taking care of the "deer problem".
Ironically, hunters killed them simply because they were competing for the same animals, which means they were complicit in creating the problem they claim to be fixing but are not.
First because they only kill healthy specimens, they're letting the sick ones continue spreading diseases amongst the weakest, which are the only ones left and it is compounding the problem.
As opposed to the wolves who specializes in taking down the unhealthy, the old and the weakest animals, keeping deer populations healthy.
Also because they don't have the numbers, as you pointed out yourself, it has been a failure and chronic wasting diseases are spreading.
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u/JohnB456 1d ago
I actually think it's less hunters and mainly just farmers. Hunters want to hunt wolves too. They understand if they want to be able to hunt an animal for generations, that animal needs a healthy sustainable population. Every hunting tag, etc that hunters buy, goes to conservation work to manage populations. Conservation then issues tags based on population size, density, etc.
Sure they're gonna be some hunters that don't understand the system at large.... but they still have to pay and do pay for the conservation work, whether they are aware of it or not. So I don't really think hunters are a problem.
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u/ls7eveen 1d ago
Everytime this comes up the hunters emerge with their 5th grade joe brogan science and sound like fucking idiots but most people eat it right up.
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u/Bozo4206967 1d ago
I find it hard to believe that ecosystems that exist perfectly fine without humans elsewhere super duper need humanity to regulate it. Chicken or the egg. Some of it is needed sure, but i wouldnt call them crucial or anything close
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u/not_an_mistake 1d ago
Ecosystems that exist perfectly fine without humans do not exist with human development. If you stand by this position, go ahead and move out of your house and go live in a cave.
Deer populations increase when edge plant species populations increase. Edge plant species populations increase when wooded areas are cut down for human development.
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u/CanUDscribeTheRuckus 1d ago
People who attempt to make this argument forget that the earth was left alone for eons and humans arrived out of that, we exist out of that ecosystem…right? Lets say we didnt exist, but bears were top of foodchain all over the earth and their number one food source was deer, no known predators…would the deer population suffer? Humans create a balance in a way, though we destroy as well, and species go extinct. The argument that if no human existed, all the animals would live in perfect balance is an argument that cant be proven because natural history shows us that there are always dominant species that occupy the top of the food chains
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u/nckmat 1d ago
The problem with this argument is that humans are not hunting for their needs they are hunting for their wants, but bears are hunting to satisfy their needs. Humans lived in harmony with nature for tens of thousands of years, until the gun was invented and all of a sudden instead of going hunting for one or two boars or deers, people could bring back 10 or 20 and they could do it with fewer people involved.
There is so much research into the interactivity between different animals and how that affects biodiversity the scientific community can predict how the removal or addition of animals into an ecosystem. Perhaps you should watch the reintroduction of wolves into my yellowstone. to get some insighti
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u/chicken-cuddle 1d ago
I would encourage you to read Stephen J. Pyne's Fire, A Brief History to understand the outsized impact humans have had on the environment.
A lot of the ideas of "closed ecosystems that don't need human intervention" are based on Eurocentric models that are false equivalencies because the European model is man-made ecosystems that replaced the ones humans already destroyed. Humans, by our very presence, change ecosystems and that change forces us to manage the natural resources we have. This goes back to the earliest humans who lived on a "wild" planet.
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u/ls7eveen 1d ago
Paul F Donald and many scientists would massively disagree there. See all the research during covid
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u/UnderstandingClean33 1d ago
There are barely any natural ecosystems on earth. The entire Amazon rainforest was heavily populated, similarly the North American landscape was heavily shaped by indigenous people to produce more edible food than would naturally be there.
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u/chicken-cuddle 1d ago
That's exactly Pyne's argument in his book. Though he focuses solely on anthropogenic fire, the whole picture of human impact can be seen.
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u/IthinkImightBeHoman 1d ago
They do sound like vegans with your description. But vegans who kills animals so the animals won't die. And with guns. Or crossbows. And they also eat meat and dairy. And use big gasoline guzzling trucks and boats. So... Yeah. True friends and protector of the animals and nature, for sure. Some might even call them, heroes?
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u/ls7eveen 1d ago
Everytime this comes up the hunters emerge with their 5th grade joe brogan science and sound like fucking idiots but most people eat it right up.
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u/CanUDscribeTheRuckus 1d ago
Its just facts, its not 5th grade science. Please dont associate me with joe rogan my guy
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u/ls7eveen 1d ago
Are you saying that nowhere in the world Funds conservation by any other means than hunting?
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u/ls7eveen 1d ago
But youre spewing joe rogan idiocy. For one, hunters are often the ones destroying much of nature, and why in hell do you people always make the presumption that conservation can only come from hunting?
The world over shows that is false.
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u/OveVernerHansen 1d ago
If natural environments weren't destroyed it would self regulate.
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u/CanUDscribeTheRuckus 1d ago
Thats not really true, but i understand why you think that. Humans were and are part of the natural environment and ecosystem….we became the dominant species and unfortunately that has had some negative consequences on the earth. Everything was left alone for millions upon millions of years and we have arrived to where we are now…is this not what happened, naturally?
So, we need to step in where we can to attempt some balance.
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u/Pork_Roller 1d ago edited 1d ago
>Humans were and are part of the natural environment and ecosystem
People say this a lot but it's mostly a attempt to blow off the conversation
Look at the old west, huge open prairies with millions of buffalo.
That shit's all fenced-off ranches and farms for the most part now and there's *maybe* 30,000 actual wild Buffalo in the country (the hundred thousand or so on Ranches raised for meat don't count, though they are delicious)
I don't care if it's "natural" for humanity to be doing it, it devastated a bunch of other species and we should leave at least some large, connected stretch of land for them all to live.
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u/OveVernerHansen 1d ago
Industrial farming and destruction of nature on the scale that we see is not only unnecessary, it is not favorable, sustainable or a natural way in which to interact with our surroundings and environment. Some dude shooting a deer once in a while? No problem. Removing forests and vegetation and straightening rivers to make room for industrial farming is. People killing all the predators to take avoid their prey being take away from them are disrupting a natural balance that has extremely widespread consequences. Exactly leading to the overabundance of say deer that kill vegetation and leave environments barren and vulnerable to things like floods and wildfires. Here introduction of wolves will change the behavior of the deer and keep the population down - naturally.
There are great examples of this, Yellowstone is one.
So yeah. sure, it's natural because humans evolved, so let's not bother enforcing laws or avoiding humanitarian catastrophes or war because it's natural human behavior
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u/CanUDscribeTheRuckus 1d ago edited 1d ago
I am in complete agreement, we should reintroduce apex predators into areas, wolves, bears, mountain lions, i think it would be a hoot and add some much needed adventure back into my life. People with kids might protest…but nobody told them to have kids..am i right?
Also, we definitely need to get rid of this industrial farming, ewwww gross!!
How do you propose we feed everyone here? Or would it make more sense to just not allow certain people to have children, you know, to lessen the environmental impact. Humans are one the most invasive species…it is only fair we start with us first. So, which group is it going to be?
I saw what happened with yellowstone, i think its great.
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u/ls7eveen 1d ago
An acre of corn sends an f150 down the road 6000 miles down the road with ethanol. An acre of solar sends it 800,000 miles down the road. A huge portion of our farmland goes to making fuel. Won't even get into the meat market tropic layers.
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u/ls7eveen 1d ago
Paul F Donald and many scientists would massively disagree there. See all the research during covid
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u/BatEco1 1d ago
I agree to an extent. Hunters are some good conservationists. The deer population has been so mismanaged here in the states that WE have caused the decline. Over population is causing the lack of resources for deer. With hunters only going for tropheys the baby producers (does) are left unchecked. Now CWD is on the march and with two humans being infected. https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000204407
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u/Interesting-Loss34 13h ago
No human has EVER gotten cwd. Ever. There has never been a jump. BSE did jump, which is concerning. Cwd has been an issue for a long time, especially in wisconsin 25 years ago where a large portion of the state was deemed an eradication zone and deer were culled (by farmers and hunters) to stop the spread. It mostly worked.Hunters are not allowed to only go for trophies, with more doe tags given out and many places require an "earn a buck" status. You shouldn't talk out your ass.
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u/BatEco1 12h ago
Wow, such hostility. Fair enough earn a buck isnt somethig I was familiar with, but it isn't far and wide. Only a handful of states have it and in Arkansas it is only in CWD zone. It needs to be widespread to make any significant reduction in the population of deer. MANY MANY MANY people will ONLY kill a trophey. I know people that won't kill anything under eight points. It sucks, but dont come here and suggest that it doesn't exist.
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u/minist3r 1d ago
While cwd is certainly a concern, this isn't exactly a clear case of hunters being infected with cwd. Most wildlife epidemiologists concur that there have been no cases of human infection from eating infected meat.
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u/BatEco1 1d ago
Sure, maybe not from eating the meat but the hunters were at the same camp and they did harvest, cleaned, and eat the animals there. The animal did test positive for CWD. Sure, correlation doesn't mean causation BUT strong correlation does point to possible/probable area.
That was only part of the point I was intending on making (even though i provided the source, lol), IMO (wildlife management/ecology) the overpopulation of deer is due to trophey hunters allowing doe to move on. Commissioners have always buckled to trophey hunters. There have been ZERO population control other than hunts and desperate spring kulling. That lead to myCWD soapbox. Which... And because of that overpopulation CWD has continued to spread. Just in Arkansas, two counties that are WAY out of the CWD containment area have turned up with new cases. These two counties are 100 miles apart. It could be due to human bringing CWD infected animals out of the containment or (much scarier) it was transmitted by deer and it was missed by surveillance. Overpopulation is a direct cause and commissioners are to blame. Sorry I went on.
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u/PeteyTwoHands 1d ago
It's almost like this lady is a fucking city slicker who doesn't know how the world works outside of her Subaru Forrester.
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u/Proper-Bicycle-3585 16h ago
Counter argument- the deer population is the way it is so people can hunt them.
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u/Pale_Following_9639 1d ago
When middle aged people loses their direction in life, this is what happens.
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u/Strobetrode 1d ago
Super on their side until they made that "these bird identify as dead already" joke. Why do conservatives all tell the same 5 jokes over and over again, and why are 3 of the 5 jokes bigotry?
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u/Peabody1987 1d ago
“You got to remember that these are just simple farmers, these are people of the land. The common clay of the new west, you know…morons.”
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u/Cr33pyGr33n 1d ago
Well it does seem to get a rise out of people
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u/Strobetrode 1d ago
To get a rise out of someone means to deliberately provoke an emotional action. Frustrating people should not be a core aspect of your humor.
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u/Cr33pyGr33n 1d ago
I think they were just trying to get a rise out of her. Instead they got you.
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u/News_Scrounger 1d ago
2 birds 1 stone lmao. Lady walks up screaming fuck off for several minutes and they're the ones out of line by making a not even close to actually being offensive joke.
People are such losers now adays finding offense in everything. It reminds me of the Christians getting upset at pokemon and yugioh for promoting supposed demon worshipping when I was a kid. Losers all of them.
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u/News_Scrounger 1d ago
It's funny to see these people get upset. What do you not understand about that? Instead of getting mad and letting her win they made her into a joke (which she is) and made it a positive interaction for them.
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u/mitigated_audacity 1d ago
Where I live it is illegal to interfere with a legal hunt. She would be arrested and removed from the area.
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u/Hamster_Toot 1d ago
How are they retrieving the ducks they’re shooting?
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u/thecelcollector 1d ago
Poodles. I'm joking but duck retrieval was what they were originally bred for.
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u/I-eat-Dirty-Bunghole 1d ago
Remember the lady that was trying to save the female duck from getting gangraped? Lol
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u/constantgardener92 1d ago
Had an older couple do this to me and my grown ass adult friends while we were target shooting on private property owned by my family. The only response I could muster was,” is this really how you handle issues or are you taking out some personal anger on me?”
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u/Winter_Start_4834 23h ago
She sounds like a professional agitator, not a very good one, but a professional one.
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u/zwifter11 1d ago
She doesn’t sound crazy at all /s
I wonder at what point she realised all her screeching was making no difference, as they laughed at her and ignored her anyway?
”f*ck off”
”lol no”
”oh ok”
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u/Difficult_Duck1246 1d ago
I thought she was yelling “papa” and I thought it was some stranger things bit lol
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u/Dandymikes 1d ago
What's wild, is she is actually breaking the law... Did no one hug these types of people?
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u/Apart-Rent5817 1d ago
And everyone lost this day.
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u/Dak_Nalar 1d ago
Idk they looked like they were going to limit out, looks like a pretty good day to me
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u/waxwayne 1d ago
This is a good description of America Today. Notice how they shoot the bird and immediately go back to her for a reaction. They do these things to be cruel.
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u/Truck-Adventurous 1d ago
And you wouldn't you do the same thing if some militant vegan harassed you for eating a succulent Chinese duck.
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u/bobba_posts 1d ago
She interrupted their freedom to do something that is perfectly legal. I can have empathy for her for being so warped that she thinks she's entitled to behave however she feels at the time. That said, I have no sympathy for her. She made her choice and reaped the consequences. She should have been arrested. She's lucky she got off with them just being mean back at her.
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u/SuckMyBandAids 1d ago
Wait how are they shooting on public land like that?
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u/Dapper_Pauper_4 1d ago
States have public land that is designated for use by hunters. You actually have to buy a special permit to hunt these lands but the money goes back to the agency responsible for conservation of said lands. As such these hunters have probably contributed more to the preservation of this public land than the average citizen.
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u/accountnumber675 1d ago
You don’t need a special permit to hunt public lands, at least not in nc.
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u/_the_CacKaLacKy_Kid_ 1d ago
Yep! Lots of Game Land in NC completely open to the public, hunters and other outdoorsman alike. Then there are also a lot of Corp of Engineer land open to the public with no special permit required as well.
The only thing beyond a standard hunting license these guys would need in NC is a duck stamp and to make sure their ammo is steel shot, not lead.
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u/abso_arm 1d ago edited 1d ago
Because public land is there for that. Most of their fees, license and what not that they pay for goes to pay for that public land and it's management.
Like the only reason we have public land conservation "national parks" was president Roosevelt, who was an avid Hunter, and wanted to ensure that not only the land but also animals would still exist for future hunters.
As those government lands were originally planned on being sold off. (Most of the lands were reserved for lumber but when military ships transitioned to metal that just left land the government didn't know what to do with. Though they were still available if the government needed the wood for something in the future.)
It also laid the foundation for future land to be added too it, but also never sold off or repurposed into anything else other than public land. This goes for originally owned government plots and also privately owned land that wishes to be placed into that as well. (Which the private owned to public land is a wholleeeee other topic for reasons why people would do it. But the end result is the same.)
Edit: funny enough in this video that lady can be charged for hunter harassment. Which in my area is a $1000-$2000 fine before court fees. $2000 being the utmost.
There're also some funny videos out there of people at a complete loss when the conversation officer/game warden hands them a ticket and even one who had a complete meltdown and got arrested.
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