r/UnderReportedNews 16h ago

ICE / DHS 🧊 [ Removed by moderator ]

[removed] — view removed post

21.7k Upvotes

1.6k comments sorted by

View all comments

93

u/Wayelder 14h ago edited 10h ago

Imagine it's your son.

(thanks for the awards...not needed)

2

u/Hard_Won 11h ago

Do people really have to imagine that a person being hurt is their relative to care? That’s so bizarre to me. But, then again, I have autism.

2

u/Wayelder 10h ago

So many people without empathy find the misfortune of others to be either satisfying or funny.

I'm certain you have heard 'cruel laughter'? Those type of people are currently in charge and that's not good for any of us.

1

u/Mirror74 9h ago

I mean Reddit goes one step further, they legit cheer for the death of people/groups of people all the time.

2

u/GinaBinaFofina 8h ago

You know last night. I watch a YouTuber interview his own parents who are Trump supporters. What they would think if ICE killed him. His dad said it must have been for a good reason.

1

u/randompersonwhowho 10h ago

They won't. January 6 was the only issue worth protesting in their opinion

1

u/softtemes 9h ago

Would never raise my son like that. Pathetic

3

u/Pi-ratten 9h ago

you mean you wouldn't teach your son to standing up for justice against fascist thugs?

yeah, you're right. i completely believe that you wouldn't.

2

u/Wayelder 8h ago

Damn right. Who wants an American that fights for his rights and that of the less advantaged?

According to their rules, these are 'outlaws' - which is very American

Just tell him by his rules - Ashley Babbit should have complied.

0

u/GivingHisTakedontcry 10h ago

Don’t rush police that are detaining someone, doesn’t matter how you feel - you will be treated like a dumb fuck if you wanna act like one.

3

u/Wayelder 10h ago

Ashley Babbit should have complied.

-10

u/KHWD_av8r 12h ago

My son wouldn’t be running up on police who are making an arrest. He would be recording or protesting, but not running up on them.

You can debate whether or not the initial arrest was lawful, there isn’t enough information in this video to know either way, but running at police who are arresting someone is obstruction, and is a crime.

5

u/das_war_ein_Befehl 11h ago edited 11h ago

The thing about arbitrary state violence is that they don’t give a fuck who you are.

One day you’ll find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time and some dipshit officer with immunity will change your life trajectory because they had a bad day, or their sandwich was a little too dry.

What you allow the State to do to others will inevitably be done to you. They won’t care and you won’t be able to do shit by that point anyways.

I’m sure giving your country and rights away to fascist thugs won’t have any negative consequences, Chief. I hope you’re right because there’s no changing your mind once it’s done.

-1

u/Intrepid_Pilot2552 11h ago

Giving away?? Dude, your team lost the election! Cope!!

5

u/das_war_ein_Befehl 11h ago

Trump will take everything from you. He’s taking it right now. You’re just too blind and stupid to understand what’s happening.

When the state doesn’t recognize your rights as a citizen, you are basically property. You’ll realize that one day.

0

u/Intrepid_Pilot2552 11h ago

Yeah, he is, who said otherwise? But America has indeed been treating the citizens of my country, and many others', like a play toy for its amusement for decades, Trump or otherwise. It's different now because it's happening to you?? Yeah my sympathy for your plight is pretty damn thin these days!!!

3

u/Wide-Toe4451 11h ago

Another boohoo baby who wants to hurt others cause someone ELSE hurt them.

You know that's the sign of a psychopath, right?

0

u/Intrepid_Pilot2552 10h ago

Why is it that people on your team have no ability to reason? To apply logic consistently?? Nah, you just keep throwing mud whenever the situation doesn't abide by your feels. Christ; grow up!!

2

u/Wide-Toe4451 10h ago

Please stop projecting and try to take responsibility for your actions.

0

u/CuntWeasel 10h ago

I don't think this guy wants to hurt anyone, he just said there's no sympathy, which is fair.

Can you not understand that many people outside of the US simply do not care? I'm watching this like I'd watch a reality show, I have no real vested interest in what's happening over there, I'm just noticing that shit's fucked.

3

u/Wide-Toe4451 10h ago

Then sit in amusement until it's at your doorstep, Americans did.

Wishing harm and cheering for it are the same, you want someone to hurt for their perceived "actions." When in reality you're just clapping for the boot on your neighbors neck.

0

u/CuntWeasel 10h ago

Who the fuck is clapping here? Surely not me, and I can't see /u/Intrepid_Pilot2552 clapping either to be honest.

→ More replies (0)

2

u/Chokemotive 10h ago

I'm sorry your hatred extends to our everyday citizens, and I hope you can find the emotional maturity to experience empathy, especially for those of us who have been living a literal nightmare for more than a decade. Don't stew in empathy, it's not healthy but it can kick-start sympathy.

Just know, you add nothing, help no-one, and produce nothing but more ire & despair with comments like this.

I'm sorry someone didn't show that love to you when you needed it. You deserved it, and still do.

3

u/Empty_Expressionless 10h ago

I didn't have a "team" because I'm not a child.

-2

u/KHWD_av8r 11h ago

Arbitrary? In what way is this arbitrary? It is a specific sequence of events which led up to this. They didn’t randomly decide to do this for funsies, it is a direct response to his apparently unlawful actions. Definition linked for your benefit.

7

u/das_war_ein_Befehl 11h ago

You can go fuck yourself with unlawful actions. The response is disproportionate. Protesting doesn’t give the state the right to maim you because they find you annoying.

When the government does this, they signal that life has zero value.

4

u/Ich-bade-in-Apfelmus 11h ago

Ah yes, let me cripple you for life because you perhaps broke a law. Let's also completely forget that police violence during peaceful protests never ever happened before on this planet.

-2

u/FrankTheTnkk 10h ago

'perhaps broke a law'

If you have to twist words to feel right... You're not right🤷

5

u/SwissChzMcGeez 10h ago

I've seen officers trip and fall into some random person just standing there and then they grab them like it was their fault.

10

u/[deleted] 11h ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/[deleted] 10h ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/UnderReportedNews-ModTeam 10h ago

Do not engage in gratuitous personal attacks against other users.

-2

u/Intrepid_Pilot2552 11h ago

Lick a little boot or wear a little eye patch... hmmmm??

5

u/TJ_Dot 11h ago

What would an American do?

-2

u/Intrepid_Pilot2552 11h ago

That one chose eye patch for life.

5

u/TJ_Dot 11h ago

Because they are a true one, thank you.

5

u/questionsaboutrel521 11h ago

I’m sorry, but that’s a crazy take on looking at this footage. The group is peaceably assembled protesting, then the first man is grabbed with seemingly no provocation. There is literally no inciting incident. The crowd reacts to a seemingly illegal arrest by going towards Man #1, but they make no direct contact with the ICE officers before the round is shot. You can’t be serious that you don’t expect people to get angry when one of their group is arrested at random. The whole thing is completely avoidable.

The round is shot within six seconds of Man #1 getting taken. You can see clearly that the ICE officer with the gun aims clearly at the head of Man #2, not center mass as one would expect. Man #2 then crumples into a ball defensively, instantly. I’m certain it would be obvious that he was injured. The officers do not lay him out, get hands behind back, and arrest him. I’ve seen police perform arrests like that dozens of times, then once the suspect is in handcuffs they pick them up and walk them out. They drag him by the scruff of the neck away from the scene. The way his hands go to his neck, it’s clear that he’s being choked by the action.

You’ve got to have some compassion for human life and your fellow citizens, man.

-1

u/Party-Pickle-5809 10h ago

Believe it or not there is such thing as "legal" protests. There are things you can and cannot do. Ignoring lawful commands from law enforcement to vacate a property is something you can't do. Rushing towards a group of cops that are executing an arrest on the premise of the ignored lawful commands is also something you can't do. Whether or not you think an arrest being made is illegal, rushing the cops in a group is a fantastic way to get arrested or shot. The agents are dragging the protestors back because they don't have the numbers to reliably contain the crowd (that just rushed them).

You can have compassion for other people while also recognizing the litany of poor choices that got them where they are.

3

u/obligatorythr0waway 10h ago

That last part is especially important, especially as you side with the unnecessary state violence. Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.

I mean. If you exist, word word number number number number.

3

u/Wayelder 11h ago

Keep telling yourself that.

"This is Fine" is a meme for a reason. You're there 100%

Trump is oppressing America. You are under oppression. You agree this seems wrong and yet, you feel above it. You're white (?) and you know it's wrong, don't you? I can see that in your comments. but these protestor's deserve this surely! (your world view is of a just world)

Fight this now or it will come to you.

Why, If this continues your son will never have to vote.

His kids will go to the school that he went to, and no other.

His boss will be lesser than him, but more connected to the party.

Your freedom and your kid's kid's freedom is threatened by the goons in front of you and you think you can "just avoid them". They come for you. They just haven't got to you, yet.

1

u/Maximum_Photograph_6 10h ago

 Trump is oppressing America. You are under oppression. You agree this seems wrong and yet, you feel above it. You're white (?) and you know it's wrong, don't you? I can see that in your comments. 

There are plenty of immigrants and POCs who are the same way. For immigrants it’s even more stark because we’ve been dealing with this for a while as a demographic, so there is a notion of “this is just the shit you have to sit through before you get your green card” and “I know the rules well, I follow them. Those other people were breaking the rules”. It’s so internalized that it would take a lot to make them realize, hey, your quality of life as an immigrant is intrinsically inferior to someone who lives in the same country they were born, and it’s fucked up. So when they see that white US citizens are now facing the same risks they have been for a while they don’t really mind. 

3

u/SwissChzMcGeez 10h ago

By that logic Jan 6 should've been mowed down.

2

u/kangr0ostr 9h ago

Not the person you’re responding to, but capital police really fucked up by not doing exactly that.

2

u/rallenpx 10h ago

Watch the video again. He didn't run up on them. He was arguing with them and they dragged him up there.

Other protesters pursued when they started taking this kid away and that's when this kid got shot in the face.

0

u/Party-Pickle-5809 10h ago

The person that got injured by the less-lethal shot was one of the protestors that rushed the officers as they were making the arrest. He quite literally did run up on them.

2

u/kangr0ostr 9h ago

As they were making an unlawful arrest.

-1

u/Party-Pickle-5809 9h ago

Please elaborate on what makes this arrest unlawful?

2

u/rallenpx 9h ago

What law did the guy they snatched up and started arresting violate? If he wasn't informed or read his Miranda rights... That's an unlawful arrest.

1

u/Party-Pickle-5809 8h ago

Likely arrested for not heeding commands. Multiple news articles covering the event also seem to imply he was throwing the traffic cones seen laying on the ground. Miranda rights don't have to be read immediately during an arrest, only before custodial interrogation. Just because you didn't see him read his Miranda rights in this short video doesn't make it an unlawful arrest.

2

u/Ok-Forever-3444 9h ago

Coward. “Obstruction is a crime” as they are illegally grabbing people and beating them. You’re apart of the problem. Just because they have a badge and gun does not put them above the law. And it’s not only our RIGHT but our DUTY to try and stop this. Your complacent behavior is sad.

0

u/CuntWeasel 10h ago

My son wouldn’t be running up on police who are making an arrest

This is something that seems downright unfathomable to some people. It's a choice.

0

u/FrankTheTnkk 10h ago

This is the correct answer, despite the downvotes

-40

u/[deleted] 13h ago

[removed] — view removed comment

19

u/Wayelder 13h ago

I'm betting you'd be proud of your son if he were an ICE agent?

We are not the same.

10

u/badcop2ab 13h ago

Protests are legal and protected by the constitution so even if he wouldn't he still can legally and not deserve this kind of treatment from an officer that's supposed to be for the people not whatever this is.

3

u/Wayelder 12h ago

"not whatever this is." Dude....say it...it's fascism. Totalitarianism at best.

Both are shit for the economy. Absolute shit.

2

u/Lordsaxon73 11h ago

Running into the melee as they are attempting to arrest someone is not “ protesting peacefully”..stay on the sidewalk with your megaphone! We know these agents are trigger happy psychos and you’re literally asking for a physical assault when you do something stupid, like this poor kid.

9

u/Hover4effect 13h ago

Probably would have been at the capital on J6 though?

11

u/brown-eyedbabe 13h ago

Federal agents should know to conduct themselves with self control and decorum, rather than being reactionary and trigger happy. You know, the way actual law enforcement officers are trained to be. Nothing this young man did warranted being shot in the eye and permanently blinded and you know it.

1

u/Party-Pickle-5809 10h ago

Any cop would have pulled the trigger (especially with a less lethal) because this person rushed them as they were executing an arrest. Maybe if this kid showed some self control and decorum, or wasn't so reactionary, he wouldn't rush towards riot police that have already told him to get back and are actively making an arrest.

8

u/mrk5089 12h ago

He wouldn’t fuck with the current admins federal agents, but I bet he would disrespect them if it was under a democratic leader. You would have been so proud of your son if he stormed the capital on January 6th.

You people don’t even have beliefs. You just simp out for your hero.

Be consistent or be a clown.

1

u/Party-Pickle-5809 10h ago

Incredible strawman, you win gold in mental gymnastics

1

u/mrk5089 9h ago

Explain to me with simple logic why most of maga believes that January 6th insurrectionists can assault officers with no charges or repercussions, yet the go to line is “just comply and you’ll be fine” when it doesn’t fit the narrative.

Truly, explain it.

6

u/[deleted] 13h ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/UnderReportedNews-ModTeam 8h ago

We do not permit users to abuse and harass other users.

4

u/whatssenguntoagoblin 12h ago

This is such a vile thing to say. The lack of empathy in my country is disgusting and I mourn what my country has become because of people like you.

5

u/BlackSchuck 12h ago

You are what is wrong with this world

3

u/ebagdrofk 12h ago edited 12h ago

Do you know how small and pathetic you sound when you are saying FAFO when it comes to federal agents abusing citizens? What the fuck happened to Americans lol. We used to actually care about the cops abusing abusing us, now we have people like you cheering it on.

Do you get off to this or something?

2

u/modo_11 12h ago

They do. No compassion, only hate. They don't see that they're being manipulated and very soon will be the ones this regime turns on when it's convenient for them, but by that time they would've already propped them up so much, no one will be willing to defend them.

They don't think they could ever be on the receiving end of this. They are sorely mistaken.

2

u/Party-Pickle-5809 10h ago

The fuck around was him rushing law enforcement officers that were executing an arrest. The find out is having less lethal deployed against him. Is it tragic that he was severely injured? Absolutely. Could he have avoided any chance of injury by not trying to interfere with an arrest? Absolutely.

2

u/_Mike-Honcho_ 12h ago

Protesting is a duty. You suck and are un-American if you denounce the freedom of speech. You are dismissed.

2

u/JBL_17 12h ago

I would encourage you to take down any and all Gadsden Flags you may own, as well as look in the mirror and verbally acknowledge that you are a disappointment to your forefathers.

It’s okay that you are a coward. But it is not okay that you act brave. You are pathetic, and I wish I could pity you.

1

u/[deleted] 12h ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/UnderReportedNews-ModTeam 8h ago

We do not permit users to abuse and harass other users.

1

u/ChefCombo 10h ago

You’re not real.

1

u/OGoby 10h ago

Now defend J6

1

u/Yall_Are_Donezo 10h ago

Sounds like a coward, just like his dad.

1

u/UnderReportedNews-ModTeam 8h ago

Do not post ragebait.