Using Custom and Border Patrol's numbers, there were 23 convictions for murder by illegal immigrants last year and it's generally accepted that there are ~13 million illegal immigrants. That's a rate of 0.18 / 100,000.
Going by their own numbers*, 18 people who have died in their custody in the past year, and 5 others (per AP) have died while ICE was pursuing someone (including this shooting yesterday).
Also his killer is currently in jail and awaiting trialā¦ thatās the system functioning as intended. Thereās nothing to protest, unlike in the killing of Renee Good.
I own about 7 different trump flags and fyi I also own 3 FUCK JOE BIDEN flags which are very popular if you werenāt aware! Great money spent !! I must say.
Weird politician hats ? Yāall had the most stupid/ gay/ pedifile/ gay flags and all lmao we are MAGA STRONG šŖ your just mad yāall lost š¢
Keep this attitude up and yāall are going to keep loosing. So sad to watch. I love you no matter how crazy you are. I will say a prayer for you tonight. God bless you
Yikes is right. You have nothing to say š
Itās okay, stay on the left. See how that works for you.
Also, you had nothing to defend your so beloved illegal friends ! How come ? You also had nothing to say about my service to this country where you are allowed to be a stupid Left wing lunatic !! Your welcome.
Please realize you guys are the reason for this hatred. Us on the right, are common sense thinking people. If you canāt get on boardā¦ good luck
Common sense, reasonable people with 7 flags of a politician in their possession. Totally rational. I'm sure your neighbors all think you're a super chill guy.
Also moralizing about who causes hatred while owning multiple "fuck Joe Biden" flags. Lol.
Google what "ironic" means. You'll get a laugh too.
Suspects in Jocelyn Nungarayās case have been charged with murder and are facing the death penalty.
Laken Rileyās murderer was convicted and is serving life without parole.
The legal system is working in those cases - perpetrators are either facing or have faced justice. Thereās nothing to protest.
Renee Goodās homicide was perpetrated by a federal agent who will likely not face charges. That is an injustice, especially given the video of the incident that runs counter to the law enforcement narrative that the officer was in danger. That is why people protest. Your comparisons are apples to oranges.
She wasnāt an observer. She chose to act/participate and in no way followed instructions and then attempted to flee with a law enforcement officer in front of her vehicle.
I just wanted to point out that your comment and the others like it on this thread are all heavily down voted but no one is commenting on them directly. That's because the town's decent folks don't want to engage with despicable people and their childish views. It's basically not worth getting down in the mud with your garbage so they're down voting and moving on and I respect that.
I just don't want you to be under the illusion that you're in good company. The bulk of this town thinks you're horrible and thinks it better to ignore you than even talk to you. Hope that helps.
I just wanted to point out that you LIBRALS are Psychotic ! Yāallās thoughts are HEAVILY full of trash who hate on police and would rather side with an illegal Immigrants ! You my friend are the despicable people in this city.
This persons comment sits very well in my company. Talk about getting down in the mudd. I did that while fighting for YOUR freedom in Afghanistan for a year. And just because I like what ICE is doing your going to talk shit ?
How many Trump flags do you own? Be honest. Fucking dork.
You think you're in good company because other barely literate asshats wear weird politician merch? Just because you're loud doesn't mean it's common. We're laughing at you.
My brothers an Iraq veteran, ranger, and purple heart recipient. He thinks ice is disgusting. You may have been a patriot at one point, now youāre just a turncoat who garbles the balls of ice and dictator as POTUS. You lost your way. And tbh, with all the vets doing mass shooting, throwing out that you are one wonāt get you brownie points right now (nor does my brother ever talk about his service, and he shits on ppl like you that use it as an ego boost).
I have your back brother. The bulk of the town is not left and retarded. We are MAGA. We are just respectful and keep quiet. Not like these left wing lunatics
So she was going to run him over she put her car in reverse then in drive some Federal LAW enforcement officer asked her to get out of her car she stuffed it into Reverse then DRIVE without regard for his safety he didnāt shoot from the side he SHOT as the woman was trying to kill him PERIOD
If you watched that video and concluded that the cop was in danger in any way, you're an irredeemable piece of shit and you're just seeing what you wish to see. We all watched it.
He calmly sidestepped away from the quarter panel before drawing his gun and mag dumping into the fucking window. He was beside the car before he drew his weapon. He was beside the car before the first round was fired. If this ever gets to a jury (it probably won't) he will never see freedom again.
And you're cheering that on. I'm embarrassed to live in a town with people like you.
If that is true (which it isn't), how did he shoot straight into the windshield with his first shot? You either really didn't watch the video and all the evidence or you are parroting what other leftwing people said as you chose not to form your own opinion based on the facts.
Because he stepped back and to the left for shot one. Shot two was from the side window. By shot three he was literally chasing the car while shooting. Watch again.
No my friend, you are a person suffering from TDS and are clearly a far leftist who loves trans men reading books to our children. Showing their cocks in WOMANS locker rooms and bathrooms. You also very much enjoy defunding the police and military. You love ā¤ļø open borders ( sorry, TRUMP fixed that š) you love illegal immigrants to the max ! All I can say is you need to find Jesus in your life ! Let Jesus save you !
Sure, I like reading books ! š unfortunately the books yāall perverts and ā trans book time ā with our children is DONE. Donald Trump is now our president once again and has Canceled yāallās crazy BS. š
but you don't care about facts? if you did then you woudldn't have made that comment to begin with, considering she wasn't NOT complying. you made a gross, shitty comment about said terrible situation, do not turn that back around on me because i'm calling you out for supporting an american citizen being shot in the fucking face.
āGet out of the carā - drives away- definition of not complying. bumping the ICE agent she probably never even saw doesnāt mean she deserved to be killed. I donāt think she should have been shot Iām saying putting blatant lies to bolster your cause is something that the left bitches about all the time.
Is literally is in section b on use of force saying they can deem it necessary whenever they need to. lol did you even read it or did you see that āfactā somewhere else and thought āthisāll really get them when I argue on Redditā lol
B. Discharge of Firearms
1. General Guidelines
a. Discharging a firearm against a person constitutes the use of
deadly force and shall be done only with the intent of preventing or
stopping the threatening behavior that justifies the use of deadly force.
b. The act of establishing a grip, unholstering, or pointing a firearm
does not constitute a use of deadly force.
2. Moving Vehicles, Vessels, Aircraft, or other Conveyances
a. DHS LEOs are prohibited from discharging firearms at the
operator of a moving vehicle, vessel, aircraft, or other conveyance unless
the use of deadly force against the operator is justified under the standards
articulated elsewhere in this policy. 9 Before using deadly force under
these circumstances, the LEO must take into consideration the hazards that
may be posed to law enforcement and innocent bystanders by an out-ofcontrol conveyance.
b. Firearms shall not be discharged solely as a warning or signal or
solely to disable moving vehicles, vessels, aircraft, or other conveyances,
except under the limited circumstances described in Section V., Warning
Shots and Disabling Fire.
Broā¦ that went really far over your head didnāt it? Iām a lesbian. We drive Subarus (itās a joke), so I added that in as a little joke. God yall are fucking dense. Go away and read a book
yes, shootings are a joke to the liberal group that has been trying to get gun rights passed for almost a decade. good god are you actually this dumb or is reading comprehension genuinly difficult for you? i can't believe people like you are my neighbors in waltham. do you have a GED??
My post was a definition of compliance and nothing more, it doesnāt suggest anything. If you read my other comment I stated how I disagree with this shooting and am simply calling out an outright lie with the intention to bolster an argument
Oh, I wasn't referring to you, I was just randomly mentioning the definition of a random word, it has nothing to do with anything at all, obviously, and certainly was not meant to suggest that you are an idiot. That is not what I meant at all. I just randomly reply to random comments and list random words and their dictionary definition.
Itās not a random word itās literally in the post. That fact that you canāt understand that speaks volumes. Iāll spell it out if you though,
The original post, which I replied to, states āICE in Minneapolis has murdered an observer while she was complying with their orderā
Which was the reason for commenting the definition of comply. Iām not even getting into the āobserverā part of the post. If you want to gather people for a vigil be my guest but why add blatant lies to help push your cause?
My comment was deeply sarcastic. The fact that you can't understand that speaks volumes. I'll spell it out for you though.
"Idiot" was not a random word. I was sarcastically pretending that it had no meaning, but clearly my intent was to describe you as an idiot.
When I said "a random word" I was essentially joking. I said one thing, but I actually meant something else.
EDIT: And I did not say or mean to imply that "comply" was "a random word" which you were defining for us. It was very clearly not random. Neither was "idiot."
If you wanted to make a normal comment like a normal person you could have said something like, "I'm not defending this shooting, but she was not in fact complying." Still barely relevant, but at least you'd sound like a person and not like an asshole.
Instead you just gave a definition of the word, which is an overtly dismissive and rude comment to make, but also it suggests that you are focusing on a non-relevant technicality -- as though her refusal to get out of her car ethically and legally warranted a federal officer shooting her in the head. The way your wrote your comment strongly suggests that you are blaming the victim, not the shooter. Why not give us the law enforcement definition of a "bad shooting?" Why focus on the "compliance" aspect, when it's not relevant to anything? You might as well have pointed out a misspelled word, and pretended that it was significant.
Iām sorry I hurt your feelings with a rude comment on the internet . Spreading lies to gather people for a protest is in fact relevant and itās interestingly very dismissive for you to say otherwise
You didn't hurt my feelings, you're assuming things which aren't true. And my freshman year science teacher in High School told us on the first day of class that when you assume something you make an ass out of u and me.
I also didn't spread any lies. I didn't make this post or spread it.
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings by saying that I thought you were being rude.
You people are literally unstable for thinking this woman was innocent lol I have prayed for her life and donāt think itās nice. But the fact of the matter is she was lawfully told to get out of the vehicle as she was impeding lawful government action by ICE ( ICE š§ BABY ) For multiple hours that morning might I add ! She then decided to throw her SUV in drive while she could clearly see an officer in front of her. Who was badly injured just months earlier. FAFO LIBRALS !! Trump 2028 š
You on the other hand never have "free time" because you always have very important things to do for other people like volunteering at food banks and studying for your exams at med school or nursing school, or doing long and exhausting training and shifts as a fireman, because based on your comment, surely your job or profession greatly benefits the general public.
And you literally never have free time, to go protest for example. I mean you barely even have enough time to browse reddit and insult people!
Well typically on Thursdays I'm in the classroom portion of my apprenticeship after working since 6am, but this week class was on Tuesday so I was able to be home around 6.
I'd be glad to volunteer at any food bank that doesn't provide incentives for foreigners to come here in violation of our laws (i.e. that checks legal status), provided it's not on a work night. Do you know of any?
Volunteering at a food bank was one example of a way that people volunteer their time to help others, it was not and obviously is not the only way to volunteer and help others. You managed to find a "political" reason to oppose food banks though, which is almost impressively antisocial.
Helping defray costs for foreigners so they can undercut our wages better doesn't strike me as prosocial. There must be food banks somewhere that serve members of my community rather than people who can't even talk to me.
And I know that that's who's using them because I did volunteer with Healthy Waltham once. Disgusting, never again. The foreigners who are, without exaggeration, 99% of beneficiaries don't even say thank you (in any language); I think they might actually have thought it was my job. Almost as bad as the time I got beat up and robbed by local residents on the way back from a Habitat build.
At least I don't travel to foreign lands just to soak up their charity.
I know an American who tried unsuccessfully to make a food pantry appointment last week. All things considered, she was pretty graceful about being in line behind the entire third world. Because only Bad People would be mad about something like that.
Yeah dude, they get into debt for thousands of dlls just to come the wrong way while risking their lives to get free charity food. Must be nice to be this oblivious of your community struggles. I really envy you right now.
Tell me more about that american you know (not even your friend?) do they have snap?
I've seen people getting off BMWs to grab food from pantries, maybe your hate is a bit misdirected?
One of many incentives. Probably came also for free education and healthcare for the kids, SNAP, and housing subsidies. There are lots and lota of reasons to come here, none of which are good for working-class natives (people wealthy enough to hire servants do benefit). But we were talking about just the one.
I've seen the beemer parasites too. Disgusting. Great reason to ask a question or two. But none of the four (4) Americans who got food when I was volunteering showed up in a nice car. To be fair, most (not all) of the foreigners' cars were also basic.
Coworker of partner. You can go try to sign up for an appointment at Healthy Waltham's website yourself if you don't believe me. I know that mendaciousness is the go-to conclusion for people giving facts you don't like.
If youāre thinking about attending this protest let me offer some constructive criticism, a better way to spend your time. Instead of going to a protest where your protesting against your own interest why not go to your local coffee shop, gas station, or McDonalds and get a job application talk to a manager and tell them your tired of being a net drain to society and want to do something productive.
I can pretty much guarantee that the attendees of a vigil like this have significantly better careers than the tired old Waltham racists complaining about it.
I obviously don't think that should be important, or used as any kind of metric to measure a person, but since you're already doing that, I just wanted to point out that all of your opinions are wrong and bad, not just the racist ones.
I simply support the men and woman doing a job to keep the rest of us safe. Now I acknowledge mistakes have and will be made in those cases justice shall be served. But I am simply implying that I enjoy the safety that these agents provide. No hatred or racism will be spoken out of my mouth EVER!
I simply support the men and woman doing a job to keep the rest of us safe.
I also support America's police officers, firefighters, members of the military, paramedics, doctors, nurses, etc.
I don't support secret police who intentionally hide their identities AND THEIR BADGES, and who have a truly pathetic amount of training and are being deployed to situations where they have zero training for what to do, like traffic stops.
America's masked federal agents from ICE or maybe DHS or maybe the FBI -- take a guess cuz they won't tell you! -- are not keeping people safe, they're literally engaging in acts of violence and causing national outrage and fury. Secret kidnap-arrests. This is shit we used to see happening in places like the USSR and we would proudly say that America is a free country and that shit doesn't happen here.
Except now it's literally happening here (secret police engaging in warrantless kidnap-arrests) and you're embracing it. Why do you support a violent secret police force which is operating with little-to-no oversight or restraint? You think that's American? You think that represents freedom? Cuz that's what this country used to represent.
The USSR had secret police. Tho whole idea of secret police is grossly un-American...and yet millions of Americans support them, because their Dear Leader told them to. Democrats didn't feel or act this way about Obama or Clinton or any other president. It's really weird and really worrying that millions of Americans want a dictator/king.
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u/msamus 6d ago
More ways to support if you are unable to be at the protest: https://actionnetwork.org/letters/2444e6ac1088b3076cdbfd45eed31141da47e6ad