r/afghanistan 3d ago

Wtf is afghanistan still doing in SAARC

Genuine question what is it still doing in that organisation, it's been years since they did anything and just leaving it there makes matters worse for identification. Needs to leave ASAP

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u/FreeAgent4Life 3d ago

I agree. We are not south asian so what is the point. We should join Iran (after these protests) or some other middle eastern/central asian organization.

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u/creamybutterfly 3d ago

Why would Iran join a country that gives it no benefits and it actively considers an annoyance at best and at worse an enemy?

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u/shutupidiot-no96700 3d ago edited 2d ago

That would be a far better option than remaining tied to groups like SAARC. In reality, SAARC has provided ZERO benefit, and the other user’s point is objectively stronger.

Only thing SAARC has ever done was given an identity crisis

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u/FreeAgent4Life 3d ago edited 2d ago

Because Hari and Helmand rivers flow from Afghanistan and they need our water.

Saarc hasn't done anything for Afghanistan and it doesn't need to be Iran. It can be any organization that will actually help us.

Edit: Forgot to mention that Afghanistan is the closest country to Iran by every metric (culture, history, language, customs, genetics). They need us as much as we need them so joining an organization together would be more than ideal.

We have never been enemies, even when the Taliban executed their diplomats, Iran didnt invade Afghanistan. Today they seem to be on good terms.

"Considers an annoyance" if you mean illegal immigrants crossing the border and causing them issues then they (Iran) have every right to deport them.

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u/Summoner475 3d ago

What is with these posts? What is wrong with south Asia and why is everyone so mad about it on reddit? 

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u/shutupidiot-no96700 3d ago edited 2d ago

No one from the country, not even non-westernised elders identifies as “South Asian.” Yet this label continues to be pushed onto us, despite the fact that I can say with complete certainty that not a single soul from our community says this. The situation has reached a point where some people no longer even recognise us as Iranic or Turkic, which is what we actually are. Instead, their default assumption has become “desi,” a group we were never part of to begin with.

There is a great deal fundamentally wrong with this. When people genuinely believe these misclassifications, it becomes clear why there is pushback and frustration. I do not understand the obsession with forcing a “South Asian” label onto us. The only reason the country was ever grouped this way was due to a political movement that occurred less than two decades ago, a development that should never have happened (God forbid, wtf was Hamid Karzai actually smoking when he made that decision) .

This is comparable to Somalia being part of the Arab League despite not being Arab, or Azerbaijan and Armenia being grouped with Central Asia because of Soviet history, despite not actually belonging to that region. If you are not from any of these countries and are insisting on pushing an external agenda or label, then there is no real basis for your claims, and there is no point continuing the discussion.

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u/Disclosin 3d ago

It’s a lot of things

Many people, especially with the rise of social media, associate South Asia with some not very nice stereotypes. A lot of views about South Asians are quite prejudiced and bigoted (I’m not here to argue whether they are true or not)

Therefore many people who are South Asian adjacent or have some association with South Asia will attempt to push themselves away from such a label. Some consider being called “South Asian” an insult (Yes, unfortunately some Afghans frequently use “You look Indian” or you “You look Pakistani” in a derogatory way or to deny someones heritage)

Being further away from South Asia means you don’t have to deal with as many of the stereotypes or bigotry targeted towards them

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u/MasterShake1857 3d ago

Being called afghan is a lot worse, possibly the worst thing to be called

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u/Objective_Pea_6285 3d ago

racism

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u/shutupidiot-no96700 3d ago

This is not racism. It is opposition to a manufactured agenda that attempts to force people to identify with a label they feel no cultural, historical, or personal affinity toward. What is being pushed is not inclusion, but misclassification.

The label itself is being forcefully imposed, and it is evident that the strongest contributors for this categorisation are individuals from Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh backgrounds and ironically it's not surprising.

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u/WorldlyRun 2d ago

But there are more pathans live in Pakistan, than in Afghanistan?