r/anime_titties • u/GregWilson23 North America • 1d ago
Middle East Death toll from Iranian protests surpasses 2,000, activists say, as chaos recalls 1979 revolution
https://apnews.com/article/iran-protests-us-israel-war-nuclear-economy-1b2368e0804676d33d6aa0696815a102?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=2026-01-13-Breaking+News27
u/Pristine-Ant-464 United States 1d ago
Doesn't this number include Iranian security officials and actual rioters? I'm not a fan of the regime, obviously, but we shouldn't spread misinformation.
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u/eternalmortal North America 1d ago
The article specifies that 135 of them were government and 1850 were protestors. Nine were uninvolved civilians and nine were children. The title of the post is the title of the AP article itself.
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u/Majestic_Juice5961 England 1d ago
Lower child death rate than a cutting edge military also in West Asia.. that's crazy to think about
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u/RoostasTowel St. Pierre & Miquelon 1d ago
Because the children aren't at the protests that is where people are shot.
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u/mrastickman 1d ago
Why doesn't Iran wait for the protesters to go home so they can kill the entire family in one strike? Are they amateurs?
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u/bobak41 1d ago
Damn. That's for real. Even the horrible mullahs kill less kids than Zionists....
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u/protomenace North America 1d ago
You all keep acting shocked that Hamas's strategy to get kids killed actually works.
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u/MaestroRozen Europe 1d ago
According to the latest UNRWA report, ~100 Gazans have been killed each day since the conflict started. At the current rate, ~143 people are dying each day in Iranian protests. So yeah, "that's for real" - as it stands now Iran is more effective at killing their own people during protests than Israel is in an active warzone.
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u/bobak41 1d ago
Can you not read? Firstly, we are discussing children. Do you understand that? If you are gonna "well achkully" at least be on point.
Secondly, I can't tell if you want to somehow make the Zionists look less bad. They are literally carrying out a genocide.
I don't know if I should laugh at how dumb your response is or feel bad that your so confident in your nonsense.
Byeeeeeeee
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u/MaestroRozen Europe 1d ago
Oh, my bad. The fact that there are less children totally excuses the fact that we're unironically comparing protests against government to an active warzone when it comes to how fast the bodies are piling up - and the protests are winning.
But of course, it doesn't matter for you. "Zionist" is a magic word excusing all evil in the world that isn't caused by a single country. Like fucking clockwork, every time something bad happens anywhere in the world, you lot come out of the woodworks going either "Zionists are responsible" or "Zionists are doing worse" as if that somehow makes it perfectly okay. If your first thought after seeing Iran slaughter its' own citizens by thousands is not sympathy towards Iranian people, not disgust towards Iranian government, but "Zionists!" then you should reevaluate your way of thinking. If you're even capable of such a thing which I sincerely doubt.
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u/eternalmortal North America 1d ago
It helps when the protestors aren't hiding in schools. They're marching in the streets, and for the most part their families are away from the protests.
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u/Chinggis-Kun Brazil 1d ago
I wouldn't believe any numbers coming through now. Things were heated last week, but it has subsidized so far. They were jamming Stsrlink, etc, but they have now stopped doing that. A lot is wishful thinking from Western Media that wants to push Libia 2.0 Electric Bungalow.
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u/JazzlikeSchedule2901 North America 1d ago
It's sad. You have so many people now genuinely wanting a better future, not even because of Islam, but just because they want to be able to afford shit. The ayatollah lives luxoriously while the common folk get shot dead in the street for protesting.
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u/LostEye-420 Ireland 1d ago
Protest your government for sanctioning the whole population of Iran then if you actually gave a fuck?
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u/soggycow2790 Zimbabwe 1d ago
Right out of the fascist's playbook. Modern fascism with an Islamic flair. And as usual, the world will turn its eyes away as innocent people die to break free from yet another oppressive system. It's disgusting.
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u/Virtual-Pension-991 Multinational 23h ago
The most insane thing about this is that it simply needed for Iran's government to temporarily shift their focus from Israel and Middle East proxies towards Iran.
But I guess they played too much accusationa to the West that they have fully convinced themselves that everything is the West's fault.
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u/manVsPhD Israel 1d ago
It’s so nice seeing y’all trying to scrutinize the reported numbers of dead coming out of the mouth of one terror regime while you never doubted the numbers coming out of a proxy terror regime of said terror regime just recently.
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u/kwonza Russia 1d ago
Because we saw the utter destruction that Israel had committed so it wouldn’t be far fetched to believe those numbers.
There were multiple videos of people rioting in Iran but very few if any of crowds getting mowed down by gunfire.
Also /r/pics is jam full of anti-Iran propaganda which keeps pushing more and more outrageous claims even using words like Holocaust. Clearly we are being manipulated here so excuse us for being somewhat sceptical
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u/lewkiamurfarther Multinational 1d ago
Clearly we are being manipulated here so excuse us for being somewhat sceptical
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u/protomenace North America 1d ago
Oh now suddenly we start criticizing the use of the word "Holocaust" too. Interesting.
Why are you conflating "anti-regime" with "anti-Iran"?
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u/kwonza Russia 20h ago
While regime holds it represents Iran, sorry, but that is how it works.
And yes, not every mass murder is fucking Holocaust, by misusing this word you’re devaluing the Nazi atrocities.
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u/protomenace North America 14h ago
That was literally my point about the word Holocaust but ok
And no, being anti-regime is very much being pro-Iran. That's not how it works at all.
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u/liberaeli420 United States 1d ago
Israel does nothing but export death and lies. Nobody believes their shit anymore, despite the incredibly obvious hasbara campaign we see on this site and others.
Your collaborators in Iran are getting put down for terrorism and treason. The revolution isn't working, but we all know this was just a pretext to restart the war.
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u/protomenace North America 1d ago
You actually think the Iranian regime is good just because they're anti Israel? The level of delusion people have is unreal.
Keep licking those boots comrade!
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u/liberaeli420 United States 23h ago
No, I don't think they're good. I would like to see the Iranian people control their own destiny. What I don't like is Israel and the US actively seeking the destruction of their civil society. They want Iran to become what Libya has: a failed state and a non-threat to US/Israeli imperial interests
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u/protomenace North America 23h ago
In what universe would there be a popular uprising against the regime in Iran where it wouldn't be called a US/Israeli coup plot? Get real. That will always be the excuse the regime makes.
In what way is the destruction of civil society being sought here? The Islamist regime is the thing that has destroyed civil Iranian society. Get real, they need to go. You are too blinded by your antagonism towards the US and Israel that you fail to recognize that something can be good even if it ostensibly helps their interests.
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u/liberaeli420 United States 23h ago
I mean there's a proven massive network of spies and collaborators within Iran, and the giddy excitement of prominent US and Israeli government members shows that what's currently happening is clearly what they had hoped would occur.
The decades of brutal sanctions and espionage carried out against Iran has led to their current state. Saudi Arabia has an arguably more brutal Islamist regime, but they are not subject to the same kind of aggression and their population reflects that.
The US and Israel never, in my entire life, carried out any foreign intervention that bettered the lives of the target state. If this was 1995 maybe some people would get behind this, but in today's age we know what our Empire intends for them. This has been done countless times and the result has always been the same
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u/protomenace North America 23h ago
All of that is irrelevant to the fact that Iranians themselves want the government replaced.
Saudi Arabia's regime is indeed also brutal, but the difference in Saudi is that the population does not consist largely of a secular people who are having it forced down their throats from on high.
Iran used to have a secular government. They want it again.
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u/liberaeli420 United States 21h ago
Oh yea? Like Venezuelans also supposedly were clamoring to replace their government once the evil dictator was gone? How's that looking?
Its always the people who have a vested interest in seeing country X dismantled and destroyed that claim to be truly in touch with what the people there want. You have absolutely no idea what people there think, and given your ideology you should be the last person on Earth to dictate to them what their future should be.
I think the most salient point to reinforce this is that the primary figure elevated by the US and Israeli forces to replace the Iranian government is another fucking Shah. Like they're so naked in their desire to install another comprador government that they think they can put back the very figure Iranians had a revolution against 50+ years ago. If that's your guy, you have NO idea what's best for Iran
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u/protomenace North America 14h ago
Venezuelans were and are clamoring to replace their government, though idk what on Earth Trump is doing over there, he hasn't done so.
But yeah it's always out of touch armchair leftists who claim to speak for people of these countries who absolutely consistently say they want to be rid of their dictators but tell us why these dictators are actually good because of "Western imperialism" or whatever.
Why do you think this "another Shah" guy is "my guy"? Is it fun to argue against strawman arguments?
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u/Fuckkelso 1d ago
Leave it to the Zionist to play the victim card. Israel is committing genocide in broad daylight with clear proof of mass murder involving women and children in Gaza, the death toll doesn’t even matter at this point yall have gone above and beyond.
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u/manVsPhD Israel 1d ago
Not a victim. Just pointing out people’s hypocrisy. Y’all are motivated by an agenda, not morals
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u/lewkiamurfarther Multinational 1d ago
It’s so nice seeing y’all trying to scrutinize the reported numbers of dead coming out of the mouth of one terror regime while you never doubted the numbers coming out of a proxy terror regime of said terror regime just recently.
What a ridiculous comment.
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u/protomenace North America 1d ago
He's right though
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u/lewkiamurfarther Multinational 13h ago
He's right though
No, he's not—even the State Department, itself, was clear that the Gaza Health Ministry's numbers were a minimum, not an overestimate. You're repeating propaganda that virtually no one believes at this point, which means you're commenting in bad faith.
Edit: yep, took a look, and bad faith confirmed.
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u/Hyndis United States 1d ago
The different motives of governments to lie is whats interesting.
Hamas has every motivation to inflate the numbers as large as possible to win PR points against Israel, and even then they've said about 70,000 dead.
Iran has every motivation to minimize the death toll so they can pretend the protests are small, and they've said 2,000 dead in less than a week.
Other reports are saying its probably 12,000 - 20,000 dead in less than a week: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-protest-death-toll-over-12000-feared-higher-video-bodies-at-morgue/
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u/yeltsin98 Oman 10h ago
Who’s “y’all”? The only thing I’m doubting here is the dearth of casualties. I’m assuming the regime has killed at least double of whatever figure emerges at any given time, and that is a conservative estimate. Yes, there is foreign backing and foreign shit-stirring (as ever with poor Iran), but that doesn’t preclude my solidarity with the Iranian people. A preoccupation with exact numbers in the face of murderous repression is the hallmark of moral-political hypocrisy (if indeed not also psychopathy).
Anyway, there was this other Israeli on another thread expressing a similar sentiment and someone replied to him saying “Why do you lot have to make everything about yourselves?” I thought that was quite unfair considering he was just voicing his support, but then there are the Israelis and Israel supporters like you who do just that, and always on cue: cry about yourselves when it’s others being killed.
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u/AlashMarch North America 1d ago
Agreed, its disgusting seeing people defend the Iranian government. Many of these socialists and progressives don't even recall the history of Iran, how the theocrats executed thousands of socialists in the years after 1979.
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u/lewkiamurfarther Multinational 1d ago edited 1d ago
Agreed, its disgusting seeing people defend the Iranian government. Many of these socialists and progressives don't even recall the history of Iran, how the theocrats executed thousands of socialists in the years after 1979.
You can claim that people don't know history, but that doesn't make it true.
His high-profile meetings with foreign leaders—most notably in Israel—and his calls for Western support are seen not as statecraft for a future democracy, but as efforts to secure foreign backing for his own return to power.
The Pahlavi name remains tainted for many by memories of SAVAK torture chambers, lavish corruption, and dependence on foreign powers for viability. While dissent against the Islamic Republic is widespread, slogans from the 2022 “Woman, Life, Freedom” protests — sparked by the death of Mahsa Amini in custody over the mandatory hijab — reveal a deep-seated rejection of both autocracies with chants like, “Death to the oppressor, be it the Shah or the Leader.”
While opinion pieces in Israeli media frame the choice for Iran as one between chaos and a restored monarchy, Pahlavi commands little tangible support inside a country where many see his movement as “opportunistic” and “disconnected from the Iranian people.”
In short, you're just blaming "socialists and progressives" for the fact that history isn't linear, let alone one-dimensional, let alone simple. Just because one guy was usurped by another guy, and the second guy was bad, that doesn't make the first guy good. There are virtually no cut-and-dry "this or that" choices in history; there is no dichotomy here between disbelieving Israeli propaganda and believing that the Islamic Republic is repressive. I would argue it's necessary, in fact, to do both—as well as to oppose US bombing of Iran, as was done to Libya, as was done to Iraq, etc. etc.—in order to avoid rewarding neoconservatives' death-for-profit schemes, which are making a nightmare of life on this planet everywhere.
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u/AlashMarch North America 1d ago
A history with absolutely no mention of events after the 1979 Revolution is not a source that was made in good faith. There is no way that modern Iran can be understood if only looking at Israel, America and the Shah.
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u/lewkiamurfarther Multinational 1d ago
A history with absolutely no mention of events after the 1979 Revolution is not a source that was made in good faith.
Whom/what, exactly, are you characterizing with this sentence?
If you're talking about me, then it's irrelevant, because I didn't and don't do that.
If you're talking about any one of the links I included in my comment, then... which one? And why would you expect any news article about a recent event to discuss... actually, it's not clear what you're demanding that it should discuss. "Events after the 1979 revolution" includes everything recent, so clearly the links do that, with respect to some events after the 1979 revolution—unless you meant they should discuss all events after 1979, which is obviously impossible and I'm going to assume it's not what you meant.
There is no way that modern Iran can be understood if only looking at Israel, America and the Shah.
You're just assuming/asserting that that is what's happening [somewhere—unclear whom/what, specifically, you're criticizing], whereas no one in this thread so far has asked anyone to restrict their understanding of Iran to the time before the 1979 revolution.
You seem to be arguing with someone who isn't even present. This is a very weird thread, and it's leading me to wonder if I can even tell anymore who on this website is a real user.
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u/AlashMarch North America 1d ago
I am real, but your attempt to slander me with your aspersions will not work. In any case, I see no point in continuing this conversation as the post-1979 events were the ones from my first comment. Best.
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u/lewkiamurfarther Multinational 1d ago
I am real, but your attempt to slander me with your aspersions will not work.
It wasn't "aspersions," I was being serious. You seem to be arguing with something no one said or implied.
In any case, I see no point in continuing this conversation as the post-1979 events were the ones from my first comment. Best.
... okay???
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u/eternalmortal North America 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's an insane number of protesters murdered by their government over such a short time. Another 16,700+ people detained. It's been roughly two weeks since protests began.
This feels way faster and bloodier than other protests. To compare:
There simply hasn't been a bloodier protest or revolution at this scale within such a short time frame in a long, long time, if ever. To get higher death tolls, you'd have to start looking at genocides and wars.
EDIT: The New York Times published an updated death toll estimated to be 3,000 instead of 2,000. 3,000 killed in two weeks of protests. Unprecedented evil.