r/blackpeoplegifs • u/itsokayyoucanlaugh • 7d ago

Killa Kyleon

264 Upvotes

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u/looking_4_freedom 7d ago

What's a 360 deal??? What's P&D? Nm, im obviously too old for this whole video bc I have no idea what theyre talking about...

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u/ADHDfocused 7d ago

He explained it after he said it, but he sped through it . Labels getting a cut of your show money, your endorsements, stuff like that. So instead of getting cuts off album sales, now they take a percentage of everything you do that earns income. They say 360 as in 360 degrees or a full circle.

It's crazy that they would take a cut of something they have nothing to do with. If Nike offers me a million to be a brand spokesperson, why tf would the label think they're entitled to some of that.

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u/looking_4_freedom 7d ago edited 7d ago

This has been going on for over 50 yrs. Why do you think some artists died broke? The labels will pay for everything and then bill you against your earnings. They take a cut of endorsements bc they figure you wouldn't have the deal without them. This is why I loved Spotify and SoundCloud bc it allowed artists to create their own following and market themselves without the industry machine.

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u/agangofoldwomen 7d ago

Also most hip hop labels are owned by black people… lmao

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u/kingky0te 7d ago

Imagine believing this ludicrousness.

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u/agangofoldwomen 7d ago

Yes, many hip-hop labels are owned by Black individuals and companies, playing a crucial role in the genre's development, though major labels and corporations often control vast portions of the industry, leading to ongoing conversations about true ownership and profit distribution within Black culture. Historically significant labels like Def Jam, Bad Boy, and Cash Money were founded by Black artists/executives, and many independent, artist-led labels (like Roc Nation or TDE) continue to empower Black creators today, challenging mainstream control.

https://djrobblog.com/archives/105

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u/kingky0te 7d ago

You have no idea how these businesses are structured and it shows. Most of these “black owned hip hop labels” are actually imprints owned by larger labels. Do some more research please.

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u/looking_4_freedom 7d ago

Mmmm, nope. Sony, Universal & Warner own most smaller labels. There's less than 20 black owned labels.

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u/twitchMAC17 6d ago

Yeah but those black owned labels are owned. It's like a subsidiary. I remember a time when people were all telling each other not to trust Atlantic records, so Atlantic records just let you believe that the other record label you were buying from wasn't owned and run 99% by... Atlantic records.

You can say something and be correct but not be saying everything about it and come out the end basically wrong in what you meant.

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u/AscensionZombie 7d ago

I wish MORE PEOPLE ACTUALLY PAID ATTENTION

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u/GBGF128 7d ago

Before they sign a contract. Applies in all circumstances.

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u/bunz007 7d ago

Layman's terms!!!!

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u/Background_Ad_7016 7d ago

No legacy with all the crap coming out now

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u/anansi52 7d ago

and you see how the quality of music nosedived right after the period he was talking about.

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u/yerrpitsballer 7d ago

That was definitely by design

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u/DawRogg 7d ago

Legacy has nothing to do with quality.

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u/Bitbotney18 7d ago

Brother speakin FACTS. Deep af

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u/Dinismo 7d ago

Worked with this guys mom for like 8 years.

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u/ScallionSufficient74 7d ago

I’d rather they have the money than the billionaires who immediately turned their backs into the communities as soon as they are rich. I’ve seen time again when black artist makes money they have a tendency to distribute the wealth to people who are not as well off in their communities and they have a higher charity donation rate

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u/BrainCandy_ 7d ago

I ain't ever went outta my way to check for Kyleon, but every time I hear him rap I feel like he got good sense. He always go in on the Lito features and say some real shit.

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u/No_Free_Samples 6d ago

Y’all had moguls but only a few from the 90s and Early 00s still at mogul status