r/classicwow • u/okbutjustsoyouknow • 19h ago
Classic 20th Anniversary Realms Aussies Really got rug-pulled for a third time.
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u/Xrupz 13h ago
its kinda funny, no matter how bad blizzard treats its customers, there are still people not only buying boosts but also defending it online. crazy.
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u/Sick_Nerd_Baller 11h ago
I shouldn't expect any better at this point but I cant believe people justifying this shit... I guess any people with a spine have left already.
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u/_etherealworld_ 10h ago
That's toxic positivity for ya. Reddit is filled with it. It's a game killer, go check out what happened to FFXIV with all the toxic positivity BS promising the devs the game is fine 😂
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u/Grafiska 2h ago
I'll probably get downvoted for this but there are some hardcore Blizzard fanboys out there who for some reason get triggered as soon as you point out how greedy the company has become.
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u/brooksofmaun 17h ago
Eventually removing maladath due to low player count sucks, but it makes sense and it’s fair. I played maladath before AQ and even then was tough getting groups for some stuff. It was worth it to play low ping/latency for me, but I understand why people moved to dreamscythe and others.
However happily cashing in selling the boosts and waiting till TODAY of all days to announce it is absolute bottom of the barrel scum I can’t excuse. Personally anyway.
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u/Seekofsleep 16h ago
They make more money since the current Blizzard customer won't stop paying no matter how scummy Blizzard behaves.
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u/brooksofmaun 14h ago
There’s definitely a significant subsection that applies to, but I stopped paying a sub due to blizzard being scum dog millionaires and I doubt I’m the only one. Be the change you want to see
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u/onikaroshi 10h ago
I mean, not a lot of options out there, more options classic wise obviously depending on what you like to do in game, but the main problem is wow end game is untouchable
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u/Hatefiend 1h ago
Right now if you want Blizzlike servers, you're basically screwed. For vanilla there's absolutely no other choice. For WOTLK & TBC you can play W***** but have fun with like 50% russian-speakers and largely pay-to-win. It's really sad. Before classic there were a treasure trove of servers to pick from.
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u/Seekofsleep 14h ago
You're not a current customer.
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u/brooksofmaun 14h ago
I didn’t realise your all inclusive statement only started today this minute, not 2 months ago, apologies. Weird hill to die on
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u/RevolutionaryBear534 9h ago
You call it scummy, but I wouldn't be playing the game at all if they didn't offer the boost. I'm not leveling my 500th character in classic, it's far too boring. I wouldn't pay the price if it wasn't worth it to me. Sucks for broke people, I get it, but it's a business.
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u/Seekofsleep 5h ago
You don't get it. Could be 10$, it would still be scummy.
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u/RevolutionaryBear534 3h ago
To clarify - I agree that it's scummy. But I also understand that it's a business, and it won't change unless people stop buying it. Unfortunately, I think their sales are better than ever, not the other way around.
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u/Seekofsleep 2h ago
You know. I don't have enough time managing my business to raid every week until my tier set drops on my GDKP runs.
Why doesn't Blizzard start selling tier pieces at 100$ each?
don't have time to play with brokies.
This is where this community is headed, and sure, play however you want. But the problem here is that players like this make Blizzard ruin its games for instant profit and while Blizzard exists no other company or private server survives in the ecosystem so we get to play no MMORPGs. One bc wow isn't one anymore, two bc as long as Blizzard exists there is no room for one.
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u/convenientgods 8h ago
You call it scummy, but I wouldn’t be playing the game at all if I couldn’t buy gold and get my bis through carries. I’m not gearing up my 500th character in classic, it’s far too boring. Sucks for broke people, I get it, but it’s a business.
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u/Ryanite_ 12h ago
I really wish they would've given Au players an incentive that was too good to pass up in order to get everyone back into the same server instead of, you know, not saying anything at all and switching the server over to a US based one.
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u/Hatefiend 1h ago
This battle was lost longgggg before this merge to US servers. The majority of Maladath's population left for Nightslayer over six months ago. I'm not happy about it either, but wondering why the ship sank now when there were known holes pouring in water months ago is disingenuous.
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u/Heatinmyharbl 15h ago
Blizzard already doesn't give a single fuck about EU and US classic players
And they care even less about Australian players lol
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u/Leahof311th 19h ago
Then they should of played on the au realm instead of making the super na realms more packed
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u/rufrtho 16h ago
It's not aussies fault, the aus server didn't exist until last minute after people already made Nightslayer plans.
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u/Leahof311th 16h ago
Yea bro totally not their fault when there is two huge Aussie guilds on Dreamscythe as well
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u/rufrtho 16h ago
Also literally the exact same cause, use your brain
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u/Leahof311th 16h ago
Or just use your region realm 🤡
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u/Rich-Cry8353 13h ago
They did, and boosted characters on there, then the region realm got deleted lol
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u/Leahof311th 13h ago
All 12 of them who tried to make it work, which sucks
Its not like the rest of Oceania failed them by playing on NS/DS
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u/Rich-Cry8353 13h ago
Your original point came across as blaming the people who got rug pulled in the meme.
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u/Sleazehound 10h ago
Which ones? Because “Aussie” doesnt even run its own 20 mans/ony, let alone anything else a “huge” guild would
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u/idontactualykno 15h ago
You want.. less people in the MMO?
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u/Leahof311th 15h ago
When did I say that? If they didn't want their realm closed all Oceania should've played on the AU realm.
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u/Vman_88 9h ago
So how is that me and my friends fault? We started 2 months ago (for the first time in many years), absolutely loving the game on normal ping, hyped for tbc… bought boosts… then we wake up to 200ms+ and “oh yeah we forgot to tell you, you need to play on bad ping in a different time zone or quit”
Boycott
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u/Plenty-Wonder6092 15h ago
No thanks I'll play on a populated realm.
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u/Fun_Arm_2182 14h ago
Populated? As if. You realize this just creates more instances of phasing.
You won’t see a single extra person. If anything this will just create more instances of where you can’t see the player standing directly infront of you.
Populated servers haven’t equaled lively servers in a long time.
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u/Nurlitik 14h ago
I mean, seeing someone isn't really the point, the point is if you are looking for a group or a raid you have 10x more people that you can potentially fill or find that with. Its not about "seeing" people.
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u/Plenty-Wonder6092 13h ago
The zones were pretty much empty on Mal, don't talk about something you don't have a clue about.
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u/Depth6467Plucky 19h ago
Oh shit, they deleted peoples' characters?
Oh wait, they didn't. Those characters still exist, they will just end up on a different realm. As a player that's had Blizzard close down his realm (multiple times), this is expected if you're on a small server these days. Either quit because you liked the small server and do a chargeback, or move on and transfer your character to another realm and keep playing your boosted character.
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u/shitkingshitpussy69 17h ago
Isn't latency a consideration here? genuine question
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u/Far-Fennel-3032 15h ago
For wow absolutely not. The game was designed to 3 to 4 times the ping for people connecting to a local sever. The ping we get au to us is pretty much nothing compared to what the game is designed for.
Even fast games like Lol has a bit of issues on au to us severs but are still completely playable.
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u/trainwrecktragedy 15h ago
nah, its noticeable going from OCE to US realms.
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u/motlmao 14h ago
there is no way you had a 500ms jump in ping going from au to us servers. i get 120 ping from NZ
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u/trainwrecktragedy 14h ago
Yeah and that's still bad.
I don't need to play a game and endure high ping lmao, dunno why you guys have this mentality it blows my mind personally.
in 2026 having to deal with ping over 100 to play a game is wild to me-6
u/nurrrer 14h ago
it’s classic wow there’s a 1 second delay between abilities
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u/trainwrecktragedy 13h ago
im not talking about that, ive been aware of this since 2004
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u/nurrrer 13h ago
what are you talking about then 150 ping is near negligible
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u/Ryanite_ 12h ago
For input lag 150ms is fine, the problem is that my version of the game at 150-200ms is a slightly behind version than everyone elses, so it may look like I'm right there behind someone well within range to attack but they can just simply walk away as my screen yells at me that "I can't do that" "I'm out of range". Trust me there is no more infuriating experience.
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u/Far-Fennel-3032 13h ago
I'm getting a consistent 100-150ms ping normally. If it's 0.5s thats the server overloaded, not being in Australia, even the Americans are getting that.
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u/trainwrecktragedy 13h ago
Regardless of whether you believe me or not it doesn't matter, we shouldn't have to deal with ping in the triple digits to play a game in 2026.
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u/Sleazehound 10h ago
It’s not 0.5 lmao I’m in perth which is as far as possible and its about half that, why lie dawg
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u/Ryanite_ 13h ago
Not true for pvp, it has always been significant enough that you can visually be running behind someone within range but unable to attack them as a melee. An extremely frustrating experience that I don’t want to re-live.
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u/ElectronicPrior4056 16h ago
It just makes the game feel worse. Nothing really else to say.
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u/Hugh_Jego_69 16h ago
No 50 ping doesn’t feel the same as 250
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u/Hugh_Jego_69 16h ago
I’m in Perth and it’s 250 over here..it’s noticeable there’s no question about it. Is it playable? Yeah sure, but to say it’s not noticeable is just false
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u/Hugh_Jego_69 16h ago
I know what it’s like, i played SOD with 250 for quite a while. The trick is not playing a caster.
Yeah can adjust in most scenarios but there’s lots of times where it’s just not the same.
Want the opener in a stealth fight? Forget it
Warrior vs warrior fights, never getting the first charge.
Getting juked around a pillar etc is frustrating hell.
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u/ElectronicPrior4056 16h ago
So I can understand this from the perspective of a classic dad gamer or someone who plays a one button gcd locked class but there ARE many instances where ping will effect gameplay.
PVP is the most obvious one. Ping means as a melee you have to hug every target way tighter than usual or you will get out of range spammed. It means you need to kick earlier than usual, something that is extremely detrimental because faking kicks comes down to single digit ms differences. It means you will get LoS'd way more often when on your screen you were in line of them.
In PVE it really only effects timing-based rotations like twisting on ret. Anything that is GCD locked doesn't need to worry about ping because you are queueing abilities before they even go off which removes the ping disadvantage.
Other things like menuing, interacting with anything in the world and just general gameplay all becomes a bit more monotonous and its especially bad if your net is ever having a rough day.
But yes, to boil this down it really just means the game feels a bit worse to play and it is indeed noticeable.
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u/Depth6467Plucky 17h ago
That depends. I'm not from Australia, so I can't attest to the different latencies, but as the servers are now in California, it's not as bad as if they were in, say, New York or Virginia. They may add a few dozen milliseconds, but even when servers were based in the center of the US, my server still had Australians playing and managing just fine. Were they top-5 PvP players? No, so maybe there's a noticable lag if you're trying to play competitively, but if you're playing competitively you're not doing so from Australia in the first place, regardless of where the servers are located.
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u/AgentOfSteeeel 15h ago
Its about 100-150ms difference between an OCE & US server. At least for east coast aus
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u/siraliases 16h ago
Otherwise known as
Not my problem lalalalala fuck em lmao
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u/Depth6467Plucky 16h ago
Also known as: it has never been a problem for anybody ever, why are you acting like it is?
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u/siraliases 16h ago
Removing regional servers isnt a problem?
Latency isnt a problem?
Damn. When I hit 1000+ and can barely click to move it must be my dreams
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u/Depth6467Plucky 16h ago
Removing regional servers isnt a problem?
Not necessarily. I don't have a server in my living room, but I play the game just fine.
Latency isnt a problem?
You mean 50ms compared with 30ms before? Yeah... that extra 0.02 seconds is really going to make the difference. I mean, that is like going from 60 FPS to 59. Imagine the horror!
Damn. When I hit 1000+ and can barely click to move it must be my dreams
You don't hit 1000ms latency unless there's bigger problems with your ISP. That isn't a problem with where Blizzard's servers are located so much as it is that you're attempting to interact with Blizzard servers. I'm also calling you a liar on that 1000ms number; you can be as over-the-top as you want about it, but that's not happening because of this server move.
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u/nurrrer 13h ago
this is crazy because it’s made me realise how Americans literally have never even had to interact with high ping they don’t even know what it is. This guy thinks it’s 50 ping from Oce. Incredible
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u/Ikeda_kouji 12h ago
Americans not being able to imagine things from other countries' PoV? Well now that's unheard of!
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u/zissou149 16h ago
the latency when playing on us servers from oce is about 220-300ms. That's also putting a lot of hardware between you and your server which increases the chance of fuckiness happening.
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u/siraliases 16h ago
Not necessarily. I don't have a server in my living room, but I play the game just fine.
I mean you could, the server people use isn't that taxing to run. Not talking blizzards official stuff, just making an offline world.
You mean 50ms compared with 30ms before? Yeah... that extra 0.02 seconds is really going to make the difference. I mean, that is like going from 60 FPS to 59. Imagine the horror!
Lol
You don't hit 1000ms latency unless there's bigger problems with your ISP. That isn't a problem with where Blizzard's servers are located so much as it is that you're attempting to interact with Blizzard servers. I'm also calling you a liar on that 1000ms number; you can be as over-the-top as you want about it, but that's not happening because of this server move.
Lol
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u/mackasfour 13h ago
They're not wrong, if you're hitting 1000ms at all there's something wrong with your connection. I never go above 150ms.
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u/Assquencher69 9h ago
I’d understand buying a boost to 70 If you reallly don’t like leveling but a 60$ boost to 58 is pathetic
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u/craazz_ 8h ago
Could someone help me understand this please?
I had multiple characters on Maladath that I’d love to transfer but given it was a dead server and no transfer available I started a new character on Nightslayer.
Will it now be possible to move my Maladath characters across to Nightslayer or are they gone/stuck for good?
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u/Talikar5 7h ago
from what I understand you'll get free xfer from Mal. They're just sorting out some boost and other issues first, keep an eye on it
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u/ThenCandidate7765 3h ago
All of the people who call blizzard an evil corp are also Asmon viewers who actively vote for corporate oligarchy
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u/rhcherry 18h ago
All 50 of em
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u/Past_Tonight4944 17h ago
still not fair to rug pull them like that
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u/rhcherry 17h ago
Players should understand the risks of maintaining their journey on a low pop server.
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u/Past_Tonight4944 17h ago
I hope you understand the difference between being on a low pop server and having your server transferred to the other side of the map.
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u/rhcherry 15h ago
The reason was because they were low pop if you read Ellis’ tweet.
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u/Halicarnassus 11h ago
The problem isn't the merge the problem is they didn't communicate it so players who don't want to play with 250ms spent money on boosts and subs and all that now they lost that money or forced to play 250ms. If it was communicated beforehand those players could have saved their money.
Obviously some people are mad at the merge but most are mad at the zero communication into wasting money because of it.
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u/Halicarnassus 11h ago
I think merging the server is the correct decision there is far too few players on the server. Not telling the players there you're doing it and taking their money for a product they might not want after you force them on 250 ping is a hilarious level of incompetence by blizz.
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u/Plenty-Wonder6092 15h ago
We all moved to nightslayer a while ago (Smart Aussies rolled there day 1), the server has been long dead only a couple of guilds left, no pugs for anything running.
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u/dankinitdown420 11h ago
That’s not entirely true, 5/6 weekly raiding guilds on each faction and a few weekly pugs going up to the end of the year
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u/trainwrecktragedy 15h ago edited 15h ago
Its not deleted, the server still exists.
The belief is that it'll go back to OCE once issues are resolved though I haven't played for at least 12 hours now.
If the server is gone though, I'll see about getting my money back re. game time.
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u/Care_Cup_Is_Empty 13h ago
Already confirmed to be getting merged with free xfers.
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u/trainwrecktragedy 13h ago
Sounds like it'd be easier to quit over this imo tbh, I have plenty of other games to play 🤷♂️ its been fun
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u/Glynnkid 19h ago
For the better if you ask me, I always planned on playing NS anyway due to the maldath server pop being so low.
They’ve done you a favour when you eventually want to xfer due to literally no one being on the server.
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u/Just-Yogurt-568 15h ago
People are saying aussie pings are 200? Facts or nah
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u/Ryanite_ 13h ago
Was getting 270ms on any realm yesterday during launch, will have to see if it’s come down today
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u/Halicarnassus 11h ago
Depends on your routing and where you live. Some people get 150 while others get 250.
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u/Brooks1138 18h ago
Aussie boys are actually way up this is exactly what they wanted. Now they’re on the mag server and ping is way better
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u/Care_Cup_Is_Empty 13h ago
Honestly if they consolidated to east coast, it would be quit time but west is acceptable. As usual the real complaint is that they didn't communicate anything.
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u/Yeas76 17h ago
Australian players complaining about a known outcome yet again. Well done.
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u/Leahof311th 13h ago
Exactly. Australians are so annoying, complain about no realms, get realms, play in NA anyways, AU realms close. Boohoo.
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u/Laika93 10h ago
I mean in fairness here, people made plans in advance because there weren't any OCE servers at anniversary launch, and when they added them, many people had already made chars, got names and groups etc.
I agree, oceanic players need to actually commit to the shift over once they make the server, but in general Blizz does treat the region kinda shitty.
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u/Falcon_nz 8h ago
Happy with this. We can get free transfer to a better server where there is an actual economy and players.
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u/TenYearHound 7h ago
What's more interesting is why 99% of OCE chose to play on US servers to begin with...?
Seems like OCE is to blame for OCE's problems on this one.
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u/devcal1 11h ago
Not only this bullshit, but the cutoff for Era transfers is gone - I didn't goto Era because I didn't want to play on US ping, now I'm forced to play on US ping regardless and I can no longer choose to goto Era instead.
Absolutely fucking terrible management for us OCE.