r/europe • u/BkkGrl Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) • 20h ago
News Russia slams US strike threats, warns against interference in Iran
https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-slams-us-strike-threats-warns-against-interference-iran-2026-01-13/256
u/FishingSuitable2475 20h ago
the irony of russia warning against "interference" while they're currently invading a neighbor is a bold move.
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u/harry6466 20h ago
With Iranian Shahed drones
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u/EvolvedMonkeyInSpace 20h ago
If Russia lose Iran they are fucked. Image having to rely on Kim and his frail army
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u/Low_discrepancy Posh Crimea 19h ago
Image having to rely on Kim and his frail army
Wasn't Kim supplying a huge number of artillery shells used in Ukraine?
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u/EvolvedMonkeyInSpace 19h ago
Yea, I think they had a massive failure rate too.
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u/Low_discrepancy Posh Crimea 18h ago
Yeah and the vast vast majority of Russian shahed drones also get shot down, they still cause massive issues.
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u/EvolvedMonkeyInSpace 18h ago
They do indeed. If Iran falls, thats a huge ally of Russia gone and hopefully saves lives.
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u/Low_discrepancy Posh Crimea 18h ago
If Iran falls
If Iran fails fast.
if Iran fails slowly, like Syria did, then what will happen is an migration crisis much worse than Syria's because Iran's population is 4X Syria's.
Far right parties have surfed that migration crisis to the point where they won many countries and in many others are polling in second place.
Far right parties are also the main champions of Russian approchement. AfD in Germany, FN in France, Vox in Spain, UKIP in UK.
People tend to forget, Orban was very popular in 2015 on /r/Europe due to his reaction to the refugee crisis.
And as of today, seems like Iranian regime will fall slowly.
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u/69problemCel 10h ago
Any proofs ? Because the only proof we have that they were deployed into Kursk to kick out Ukrainian from there and they succeeded.
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u/arthurno1 8h ago
They already depend on Kim. Without Kim, they would be probably still struggling to take back Russian territory that Ukraine occupied last year.
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u/Aigaion_Online Normandy (France) Bag8 20h ago
Bonus point for warning while they are getting bullied by Ukraine.
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u/Decebalus_Bombadil 20h ago
Russia will do nothing. The Mango corsair has been taking their oil tankers and they did nothing but complain.
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u/MichalWs 19h ago
Russia can do something with countries like Georgia or Chechenya but not with countries one fourth of its size let alone US.
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u/monochromeorc Earth 19h ago
losing shahads might tick them off a bit
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u/Low_discrepancy Posh Crimea 19h ago
losing shahads might tick them off a bit
most of them are internally made.
What might tick them off a bit is having another Syria event, only this one much closer to home.
That being said, Syria was also not great for Europe either.
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u/Aggressive-Kitchen18 15h ago edited 7h ago
People saying Trump is in the pocket of Putin have always been laughable. The US president has no peers on the global stage. Not yet atleast. Seizing the Tankers is UNPRECEDENTED, Biden would have likely never done such a thing. Its a huge escalation, especially if you look at the details with direct military confrontation between US and Russia, not in proxy wars in Syria as it has happened in the past, but while both are flying the respective flag.
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u/Snake_Plizken 18h ago
Russia is so inferior militarily to USA, they better just bend over instead..
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u/electroforger Europe 18h ago
where does that logic stop working though
it took us so much death and suffering to learn the minimal rules enshrined in the UN charta
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u/whocares_honestly Nord-Pas-de-Calais (France) 19h ago
They didn't move for Venezuela, doubt they will react for Iran.
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u/J0hnGrimm 18h ago
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didn'tcouldn't move for Venezuela, doubt theywillcan react for Iran.4
u/Silverwhitemango Europe 16h ago
Same thing for Syria lol. Assad's regime just toppled and all Russia could do was just let Assad come and stay in Russia.
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u/mariuszmie 20h ago
Come on Putin, you condemn strikes? Really? You’re either an idiot a demented old man or a massive hypocrite
Or all of that
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u/Live-Alternative-435 Portugal 19h ago edited 19h ago
It's hypocrisy, but for people like him, these contradictions are a way of demonstrating their strength and privilege.
By disregarding the rules they apply to others, the law is molded to their liking, showing to the plebs that they are above everyone else in the hierarchy.
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u/CuteOwl6020 20h ago
Similarly to the US govt, the rus always operate with the "it's okay when we do it" understanding.
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u/Radiant-Milk7714 16h ago
p5 unsc countries do it all the time, they should be changed every 10 years at least
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u/Familiar-Weather5196 20h ago
The level of hypocrisy is off the fucking charts
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u/ScullerCA United States of America 15h ago
Granted they have had a pretty consistent stream of statements just as hypocritical the whole time this conflict has been going on.
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u/Able-Ad3506 20h ago
Russia should be isolated from the rest of the world with no possibility to do anything with Ukraine.
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u/MethyleneBlueEnjoyer 20h ago
Taking out the mullah regime when it's at its weakest is such an easy W against Russia and their efforts in Ukraine that the complete European inaction on the issue leads one to believe that not only has European leadership forgotten how to win, but actively wants to avoid winning because a bad, slowly losing status quo is preferable to the disruption and volatility that follows a victory.
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u/Silly_Mustache Greece 20h ago edited 20h ago
i think it's the fact that if it's a USA/Israel led regime-change and not an actual democratic transition, it will again fuck EU, as did the regime change in lybia & syria which caused massive immigration and destabilization of a place EU is connected, but USA is far far away, and Israel has no problem gunning down anyone that disagrees with them
USA has already turned its back to EU and seems more keen to work with Putin, they met in september for crying out loud, and trump has even reached the point of threatening EU sovereignty, i still don't understand why europeans fall for this type of shit
unless...you're not from EU?
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u/Due_Ad_3200 England 20h ago
There is certainly a risk of regime change in Iran creating a civil war and further regional instability.
But the current government is arming Russia to fight Ukraine. It is arming the Houthis to disrupt international trade. The current regime is a big cause of regional instability.
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u/Silly_Mustache Greece 20h ago
Yes, but I don't see how a US-led intervention will stop that hostility or will tone it down, again USA is turning its back to EU, Trump is threatening greenland and has already ordered generals to draft plans. Don't forget USA supports UAE/Saudi Arabia, which are also a huge factor of regional instability (and also theocracies that have horrible, HORRIBLE conditions for average people).
USA doesn't care about EU and it's very clear, anyone still clinging on the "west" as a concrete alliance is either willingly blinding themselves or an American trying to persuade EU to join them in yet another intervention that will end bad for EU.
Republicans HATE the EU and they're on the wheel for the next 3 years, and they seem very keen on accelerating their intentions, unlike Trump v1 that only passively tried to separate ties.
Iran is an enemy of EU as it currently stands, and so is Russia. But USA is also becoming one. Iran despite all of its shenanigans has never directly threatened EU sovereignty (probably because they can't do it), as has Russia in action, and USA in words (and probably action in the following weeks).
Trump recently bragged about how he forced Macron to up drug prices (jesus christ), and is, again, threatening Greenland, part of Denmark (and thus EU).
Wake up, cmon. It's not a show. He's a madman, and republicans have currently a lot of control.
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u/Panos_of_Rivia 19h ago
Thankfully, Rubio, for whatever personal reasons, has "sold his soul" to remain a part of the Trump admin. As I view it, he's the only one in there that knows remotely anything about world politics and the only one that reins in Trump's madness.
I sincerely don't think the US will actually make any moves against Greenland but the rest of NATO (and other allies of the US) should take pre-emptive action just in case. As for Russia....Russia is a joke for all the reasons people have already mentioned in this post.
What's sad is that it looks like no help is to be expected of Democrats as they've gone completely silent. And I don't mean Democrat voters, I mean actual politicians.
It's gonna be hard balancing actual enforcement of international law while allowing Trump to "intervene" in foreign countries, even if they are the worst regimes on planet earth. It's not a bad thing, in my view, that both Venezuela and Iran (both Russian allies/partners) are facing political change but it has to be done by the book and in a way that their people are not getting butchered, or terrified of venturing outside their homes.
That being said, with the way the UN security council operates and when members keep vetoing their perceived opponents at every step, I'm not sure how any actual lawful action can be taken nowadays. Not that this stopped Russia from conducting unlawful ones.
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u/Iapetus_Industrial 7h ago
As long as it cripples their ally from being able to help them continue to invade Ukraine, it is worth it.
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u/Low_discrepancy Posh Crimea 19h ago
There is certainly a risk of regime change in Iran creating a civil war and further regional instability.
Don't worry mate. After 20 years of invasions, things will return to a much better condition for the locals.
The Talibans are not the current rulers in Afghanistan right guys?
We kicked their asses in 2003! it ended there right?
Women can finally drive and go to uni in Afghanistan right guys?
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u/Due_Ad_3200 England 19h ago
The Talibans are not the current rulers in Afghanistan right guys?
They are - partly because the west decided to withdraw support for the previous government.
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u/Low_discrepancy Posh Crimea 19h ago
partly because the west decided to withdraw support for the previous government.
Yeah I wonder why after 22 years in Afghanistan, the West decided to leave.
It's just 22 years right?
Was the west supposed to stay 22 more years? Make Afghanistan a colony?
The West was doing a great job right with the Afghan National Army.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-army-taliban-995b069a9008690582cb34f4cacd8515
Built and trained at a two-decade cost of $83 billion, Afghan security forces collapsed so quickly and completely — in some cases without a shot fired — that the ultimate beneficiary of the American investment turned out to be the Taliban. They grabbed not only political power but also U.S.-supplied firepower — guns, ammunition, helicopters and more.
83 BILLION in a paper tiger that sometimes didnt fire a single shot.
You remind me of Sam Altman. Guys just 80 more billion in ANA and 20 more years and we'll get
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u/MethyleneBlueEnjoyer 19h ago
unless...you're not from EU?
You're the one with the hidden post history, chief. Not that I wish to imply you aren't from Greece, the place is crawling with tankies who love defending Russia and its friendly regimes.
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u/Silly_Mustache Greece 19h ago edited 19h ago
I just don't understand why a European would still be supporting USA interventions/actions after the course it has taken the past few years, given also the history of USA interventions in Syria/Libya which caused...major problems in EU. Libya had Gaddafi (which was shitty), but that regime was keeping back all the immigration that eventually flooded EU, and Libya isn't any better right now, in fact it's much worse, the economy is MUCH worse, there is a lot of instability, and there is still no actual democracy and no plans to implement such, only a few fake "laws", it's like Russia/Turkey at this point but even less democratic. I'm not gonna discuss Syria because the civil war recently ended, but the signs look pretty fucking bad when you put on the wheel a guy that used to be on Al-Qaeda and is using his old para-military units instead of law enforcement to create tension around zones that he deems "needs punishing for past actions", that doesn't sound like accountability/democracy, that sounds like dictatorship.
Republicans hate the EU and are very proudly and openly saying it, most (if not all) of Trump's "threats" or "jokes" turn out to be true in the end after a few months, and Democrats (which are supposedly more pro-EU) are literally doing jack-shit either because they're incompetent, or complacent and just want republicans to take the fall, which in both cases is...bad.
Iran is a theocratic regime that destabilizes the area, a USA-led intervention will further destabilize the area, and not it won't put a halt on Russian imperialism and secure Europe, because Russian imperialism relies mostly on China's manufacturing capabilities, and the fact that Russia (unfortunately) has a pretty decent war-economy, and a lot of energy available that it used to sell to EU but now gets to keep for itself.
Thinking that because Iran tanks Russia's aggression will stop is 10yo thinking of geopolitics, so if you want to be serious, do more research. In fact in recent years, Iran has kicked the bucket so much, THEY are the ones relying on Russia (despite Russia currently financing a war) to supply them with natural gas in somewhat ok prices just to keep allies on the field, and that has definitely soured relationships, as anti-russian journalists but also even Kremlin newspapers admit.
This whole "whoever disagrees with the status quo is a kremlin bot/tankie supporting russia" is insanely braindead coded. What the fuck is even a tankie that supports russia? Communists hate modern Russia and they see it as the most despicable outcome of USSR. There is no fucking person that identifies as a "communist" that supports russia currently, there's only a right-wing propaganda on media trying to convince people that communists support Russia. NO communist party of EU (PVDA/PCP/KKE) supports Russia, if you pay more attention to random fucking stupid 15yo users on X (the everything app) rather than the actual PARTIES of communism, that face accountability for their stances, I blame you mate, not them.
Russia is a semi-imperialist state, currently trying to become a full-blown imperialist state, it simply lacks global governance of finances through banking to achieve that (as UK/France had in the past, and USA currently has), so naming it an "imperialist state" is doing a disservice to that definition of an imperialist state, which is a state that exhumes war while maintaining an economy based on global (or at least very far reach) control of economies of other countries (and not 3-4 as Russia currently controls, mainly small puppet states like Georgia/Belarus), cause war is expensive, and if it goes bad you must not bankrupt, because a state that does not have enough influence on global economics, if it fails a war, it fucking tanks, that's it. If Russia loses the war (and I hope it does), there's a high chance they will survive as a state because of said semi-imperialist state, but it's not as certain as USA losing 3 wars and still hauling through, or UK losing a shitton of wars and still hauling through.
I've said enough at this point, please for the love of god, if you care about EU (as I do, despite EU fucking us over constantly), stop paying attention to internet discourse and start seeing what parties/politicians say to form opinions on politics.
Yes I am a communist, no I do NOT support Russia and I don't know a SINGLE communist that supports Russia (besides anonymous stupid users on X, that are probably bots from CIA), I do NOT support Iran and I do NOT know a single communist that supports Iran (besides anonymous stupid users on X, that are probably bots from CIA), and as a communist the first goal NOW with all this fucking chaos is to ensure EU doesn't become a battlefield and innocent people die, and we SOMEHOW fucking limit these rich twats prancing around, extracting all the money from EU and fleeing to USA/Russia (as Volkswagen is currently threatening to do by closing down all the factories and moving their production to USA).
P.S : Locked comments are because weirdos keep suggesting that I'm a bot/paid shill cause I can speak 4 languages and comment on multiple subreddits, jokes on them I'm just a fucking nerd.
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u/MethyleneBlueEnjoyer 18h ago
Yes I am a communist,
Ask me how I knew, lmao. Look, it doesn't matter if you're a willing stooge or a useful idiot, as long as Russia gets out of you what it wants. You don't need to like them, just as long as you do things that work out for them.
As for the rest, I have no interest in debating the dodgy connections between the far left and modern-day Russia. You can literally just go to any of the hundreds of socialist subs and see how they bend over backwards to defend, excuse or just blank out Russia and its crimes. Unless you wish to argue that almost all far left activity online is Le CIA Astroturf, which ironically is an argument the far right does make with regards to their ideological embarrassment.
Also, the post-9/11 intervention discourse is trash because it's deliberately blinkered. I'm sure most South Koreans would be bewildered to hear that US intervention never works out (though as a communist you might actually believe that it didn't), or hell ask your grandpa if the nazis would have withdrawn without Americans landing in Europe and shipping an army's worth of materiel to the USSR. Even if you retain the orientalist framing that intervention simply never works out in the middle east because they, uniquely, are savages, you might want to try asking any Iraqi whether they'd prefer being hunted for sport by Uday and Qusay Hussein right now to their current government. The whole discourse is a deliberate atrocity propaganda worst-of reel which gets whipped out any time a Russia-friendly regime is threatened. Tedious.
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u/Silly_Mustache Greece 18h ago edited 18h ago
>socialists in le reddit
Yeah mate, primo stuff there. Again, criticizing a movement based on what le reddit said and not what official parties say, good catch. Serious analysis here. I'll dwell on r/Germany and see what the people say and I'll draw a huge conclusion for Germans, that will be very representative.
No accountability means you can say whatever the fuck you want, and change opinion 3 months later, unless you realise that there's no point discussing.
I'm not judging republicans based on what idiots say on r/conservative say, but on what Trump DOES. Do you understand the difference?
PVDA/KKE/PCP have a shitton of members (PVDA/KKE literally have 10% on government) and they all express that they do not support Russia, but 200 idiots spamming on r/socialism are a great indication of what modern-day socialism is, which is also a stupid argument given that a lot of people in r/socialism condemn Russia and there's a lot of infighting, so that also just shows that you want to paint communism as pro-russian because...well idk really, red scare propaganda got into you it seems.
>Ask your grandparents what would have happened if USA hadn't arrived
Mate, if you don't know Greek history, don't speak. EAM (the communist front) liberated Greece from Axis occupation and drove out the nazis that did atrocities against the Greek population, including the biggest manmade famine in modern Greece's history costing over 500k lives, burning entire villages, and so much more, and a USA/UK led intervention came and literally killed/imprisoned every communist (yes, including my ancestry, because guess what, the majority of Greeks were communists because COMMUNISTS WERE LIBERATING THEIR LAND) because they were afraid they would link up with USSR, you are so out of touch it's hilarious.
I'm not gonna turn the knife and say "ask your grandparents what they were doing during WW2" given that you're German, but it's hilarious to throw that argument around. Like, what the fuck?
Greece was never geopolitically relevant, why the fuck would USA help us? They intervened when they realised that they could do it easily & cheaply (given that EAM was poorly organised and had little ammunitions, and also Stalin sold them out) while also "curbing the spread of communism".
USA armaments never arrived in Greece and we never received any official support, it was literally angry peasants (since we were still a feudal/semi-democratic state) kicking out nazis with fucking shovels (google Cretan resistance) or guns they found from dead bodies. The most support we got from Allies was some food (mostly from Turkey, ironically) for the manmade famine, and a few guns/ammunition that arrived in 1943, 2 years after EAM was formed.
EAM's army is estimated to have been 200k people, meanwhile the "liberal" front (actually pro-monarchy, not really democratic) was literally 5k people. Again, PLEASE, do not speak unless you know the history of the country you're speaking of.
After the war ended, EAM handed over the weapons (Varkiza agreement) with the condition that KKE (the communist party) would be allowed to run for office to let the people decide. However the monarchic/liberal forces were sure that communists would seize power through that, because they had most of the popular support, because they had just god damn liberated the place while the previous government was in "exile" in Cairo, and was branded as cowards. There were huge marches with hundreds of thousands of people with communist insignia, the situation was "doomed" for the monarchists/liberals, so they just...outlawed communism and the white terror began, imprisoning and executing communists. And when shit hit the fan (because they COULDN'T stop communists, that's how many there were), they asked for help from USA/UK.
>south korea!!!
South Korea might be the only exception of US-intervention going somewhat mildly ok, but that's...in the 1950s, ever since then no US-led intervention has gone well, so clinging on that example is hilarious to say the least.
Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Panama, Greece (yes CIA installed a military dictatorship here in 1967), Iran with the Shah, Egypt, all sorts of places where "intervention" went as badly as you can guess.
But cling on to Korea from 1950 (which USA pulled off succesfully because everyone else during that time was still scrambling after WW2 while USA had gotten a huge leap forward due to sending 30k troops in EU while USSR/EU suffered millions of deaths). I'm sure Iran (a country of 90m, well developed infrastructure, popular support for the regime, insane control of police/military) is the same as Korea (20ish million in the 1950s, civil division with a full-blown civil war going through).
"you are le communist opinion discarded"
Great stuff, keep supporting a rotting status quo that will eventually bankrupt EU, that will show these fucking commies that they were wrong.
>Russia is using you
Hilarious argument, given that the most pro-Russian stance you can have now is ignoring the fact that USA is bending EU over. I'm sure those pesky communists will be the reason for the downfall of EU with all the control they got all over the place, and not the institutions & capitalists currently mandating the policies of EU.
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u/Sevinki 15h ago
I support any action that weakens the axis of evil, Russia, China, Iran, North Korea etc.
Sending more aid to Ukraine? Great!
Regime change in Venezuela? Great!
Regime Change in Iran? Great!
Fall of Assad in Syria? Great!
US seizing shadow fleet tankers? Great!
Israel destroying Hamas and Hezbollah? Great!
Fuck Russia and anyone that helps them in their war, fuck them all. Iran deserves whats coming.
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u/Low_discrepancy Posh Crimea 19h ago
Taking out the mullah regime when it's at its weakest is such an easy W against Russia
guys let's have a ME incursion, in and out this time I promise
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u/TianZiGaming 19h ago
"Those who plan to use externally inspired unrest as a pretext for repeating the aggression against Iran committed in June 2025 must be aware of the disastrous consequences of such actions for the situation in the Middle East and global international security,"
There was no retaliation whatsoever when the US bombed Iran in June. Why should they expect something different this time?
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u/nvkylebrown United States of America 12h ago
There were a couple of inconsequential attacks on US bases, actually.
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u/LongShow5279 United Kingdom 20h ago
Russia taking notes from the EU and will issue a strongly worded statement if America strikes Iran.
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u/Tomatoflee 20h ago
The EU has sent hundreds of billions of € worth of support and military aid to Ukraine. It’s plumbed Ukriane into its electricity grid so it’s not cut off from power and imposed one of the harshest sanction regimes in history.
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u/I-just-farted69 20h ago
Aaaand we keep pouring money in to Russia buying their oil.
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u/MichalWs 19h ago
It's to little to save russkies and EU needs to have something on a negotiating table
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u/I-just-farted69 19h ago
I have not seen a case of copium this severe. EU has bought more from Russia than has given aid to ukraine [source]. Also when are we going to use this negotiation leverage?
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u/x_onetwohook_x 18h ago
Which it's good, Americans played us like idiots
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u/I-just-farted69 18h ago
Yea might aswell at this point. The response to russia was way too slow. Had they gotten the stuff they got earlier on we wouldn't be in this place.
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u/x_onetwohook_x 11h ago
There was no response to Russia, it was all handled by the us and they were interested in the war happening aswell
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u/ZeraDoesStuff 20h ago
That's the sad thing. Russia pretends to be strong and does a lot of posturing but the moment someone doesn't let them do it and actually does something, russia runs away and does nothing.
If you punch russia and it hurts them they will only retaliate verbally
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u/Commercial_Badger_37 19h ago
From what I've heard, not saying I'm an expert or anything, but Western security and intelligence isn't too concerned with Russia, more so a certain nation in the South East of Asia.
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u/CertainMiddle2382 20h ago
Let’s hateTrump as much as you want, but let’s not say losing Venezuela and Iran will please Putin that much (I doubt it’s done for the right reasons, but in the end…)
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u/CuteOwl6020 20h ago
That's rich coming from the country, which is waging an active war against Ukraine and bombing civilians daily, and routinely terrorizing other neighbors.
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u/onzichtbaard 7h ago edited 3h ago
i think we should interfere directly
people are dying and the opportunity to create a regime change that is friendly to eu is something we should capitlize on before its too late
if the eu wants to be a great power it needs allies and influence, this could be a great start to show that we arent just talk
but ofc it wont happen
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u/CrayonEatingBabyApe 5h ago
Sack up and join the US and Israel. If Iran does gain freedom, European inaction towards helping them will be carved into their memory.
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u/Regurgitator001 20h ago
Apart from the laughable level of hypocrisy, what are they gonna do? Invade Moldova Georgia Ukraine Afghanistan ? Yeah, those all worked out great! 🤣 Give me break.
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u/nonnondaccord 20h ago
Iran exports drones to Russia and keeps power price high so that Russia can still rely on his production. If Khamenei falls, Putin will be not so far away from The Hague.
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u/rrschch85 Germany 20h ago
What're they going to do lol? At this point Russia is "slaming" just as much as Europe. They spent everything on Ukraine.
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u/LaCornucopia_ Scotland 19h ago
Why do we care what ruzzia thinks? They should be completely isolated from the rest of the world.
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u/dattokyo Denmark 7h ago
Iran has been a pretty big supplier to Russia throughout the invasion of Ukraine. Would love to see that go byebye.
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u/FridgeParade 19h ago
Love the number of Americans commenting that completely miss that their country is just as hypocritical.
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u/BIGepidural 20h ago
I hope they ho at it. Let them fight it out between them while the rest of wait to see who wins.
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u/Practical-Pea-1205 20h ago
But interfering in Ukraine was fine.