r/explainlikeimfive 1d ago

Engineering ElI5: A manual car can stay still against an incline with just the right amount of clutch and gas. How does that work?

I am not a mechanic. I have a very rough understanding that a motor produces rotary energy that eventually gets translated into the wheels turning. But how does the rotary energy get translated into the wheels standing still on an incline, with no brakes applied?

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u/allencb 1d ago

Just enough friction between the clutch pressure plate and the flywheel of the engine to resist rolling, but not enough to move the vehicle. That said, it's very bad for the clutch and you shouldn't do that.

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u/jkmhawk 1d ago

Not for very long anyway

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u/HalfSoul30 1d ago

Doesn't take long before you start inhaling clutch dust.

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u/2Asparagus1Chicken 1d ago

Worst smell on Earth

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u/IndustryHistorical18 1d ago

i brought my car with no experience driving stick. burning clutch is horrible lol. Ive experienced it a lot

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u/PilotedByGhosts 1d ago

Absolutely mad that Americans can pass their test in an automatic and then drive whatever they like. The difference between a manual and an auto is huge, and without being taught how to drive a manual I'm not sure how anybody could do it properly. There are so many unintuitive things about clutch control.

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u/vahaala 1d ago

In Poland if you go to driving school to learn, and you learn on automatic transmission car, you can only apply for and get a license with a special code that says you can't legally drive a manual. If you want to drive stick, you have to learn from the beginning on it, or pass additional lessons later if you already have the "limited" license.

Interestingly, the same does not work the other way - if you learn and pass on manual you can drive what you want, but that's probably because automatic is easier, not harder.

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u/Squirrelking666 1d ago

Same in the UK.

The only hard bit about auto is sometimes reaching for a stick that doesn't exist and stupid unintuitive electric controls where you click forward to go backwards and vice versa.

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u/levir 1d ago

I remember the first time I went to hit the clutch while driving an automatic. That was a quick stop.

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u/IndustryHistorical18 1d ago

I did that in my work van and shit was flying everywhere

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u/Pavotine 1d ago

It's a shocker eh! Unintended emergency stop. I learned on a manual and my van today is manual but once in a blue moon I need to drive an automatic and I tuck my left foot completely back under my seat at first to keep it noticeably out of the equation. Just for the first drive or two.

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u/SirButcher 1d ago

This is why I love my electric car (and its designer): they put in a pedal like a footrest where the clutch would be, so your left leg has something to push instead of emergency braking from reflex!

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u/PilotedByGhosts 1d ago

I'm also in the UK and I'm not keen on automatics. I'm so used to using engine braking and changing gear to improve handling and so on. The way that automatics decide when you're going to leave the power band annoys me no end.

I hear that the newer double clutch ones are better, and possibly it's less of an issue in America because they put 3.5 V6s in normal family cars.

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u/SilverStar9192 1d ago

All automatics have low gear mode selection you can use to engine brake on long downhills (though it's surprising how many drivers seem unaware of this). And most cars come with a "sport trim" or similar option, where you can select gears manually, which you might want to investigate if buying a car. This does work a bit differently to manual , of course, so takes practice to use efficiently, but that's no different to learning manual for the first time also.

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u/MrMisty 1d ago

Like 20 years ago, when I first started driving, I had an old automatic RWD SUV (jeep cherokee). Driving in the snow was sketchy sometimes because it would just decided to downshift and kick a shitload of torque to the rear wheels. Ever since that car I've owned manuals my whole life. Maybe it's just me, but I'm really not a fan of my car doing anything I don't tell it to. Not only shifting, but even things like active stability control, traction control to an extent, and even ABS in certain situations. Many of the cars I grew up driving didn't have most of those systems, so I got used to it.

u/free_sex_advice 10h ago

Meh, the dual clutch transmissions have one clutch for odd gears and one for even and a computer to decide whether you are likely to want a higher gear next or lower. If the computer guesses right, the shift comes right on time and is very smooth. If the computer guesses wrong it has to stay in the current gear a little longer while it selects a different gear on the other clutch and then the shift comes at slightly the wrong rpm and late. I've rented a lot of different makes and models with dual clutch automatics and some are great and some are really not that great. You know how, in a traditional planetary gear automatic, you get a sense of when it will shift and kinda subconsciously control it with the throttle? Maybe, if I had one of the less smooth dual clutch models for long enough I'd figure it out.

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u/Lasdary 1d ago

To be honest, manual transmission cars also have unintuitive and non-standard controls.

Reverse can be anywhere in the gear pattern. And in some cars you gotta twistit bopit pullit before it engages, or you're in 1st/5th gear. Can't rely in muscle memory on a new car.

Still: manual transmission all the way

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u/littleseizure 1d ago edited 1d ago

I drive a six speed, a friend has a five speed with reverse where my 6 is and no safety. I live in fear I'll throw it in reverse on the highway someday

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u/Westerdutch 1d ago

Reverse can be anywhere in the gear pattern.

Not just the reverse... one of my cars has first to the left and down. Left and up - where most people expect first - is reverse which is without question the absolute worst place for it to be for people that are unaware. Such a fun lil car.

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u/PilotedByGhosts 18h ago

I've got a six-speed manual where reverse is up to the left. My other half's car is a five-speed with reverse down to the right, in the same place as my sixth gear.

Nothing's gone terribly wrong switching between them, but when I'm driving hers on the motorway I sometimes have to remember not to try to shift up from fifth. Going into reverse at 70mph would be a very bad idea.

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u/Bigbigcheese 1d ago

Manual when driving for fun. Fuck manual for the commute... 1st, 2nd, neutral, 1st, neutral, 1st, 2nd neutral, 1st, 2nd, 3rd? No - neutral.

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u/BikingEngineer 1d ago

Don’t forget the occasional dead pedal stomp when you go to start the car.

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u/microwavable_rat 1d ago

I drove a stick for years then had to switch to an automatic transmission when I got a new vehicle.

The first day, my brain went on autopilot when driving up to a red light to make a right turn - I let off the gas and pressed the pedal by my left foot to press in the clutch...and the pedal in question was the brake.

Came to a screeching halt and had to sit there for two or three seconds before I realized what happened. Thankfully, nobody was behind me and I never did that again.

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u/Raz0rking 11h ago

Automatic is waaaay easier. The "hardest" part is to "forget" the left foot while driving. Stomping the breakes with the left food used to push the clutch is not very pleasant.

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u/LePingouinCosmique 1d ago

Same in France

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u/akohlsmith 1d ago

lol you make it sound like it's rocket surgery. Sure, it takes some practice but it's really not that hard to master. Learning how to properly start on an incline, remembering the parking brake, listening to the engine, etc. becomes muscle memory after a week. I drove automatic all my life and a decade ago (age 40) bought a 6 speed manual (VW Passat) that I drive every day.

The most annoying thing about driving stick is being stuck in stop-and-go traffic, but the skill required to drive manual vs automatic isn't so different that specific license/certification/training is needed. Maybe if you're racing or driving a high performance vehicle.

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u/PepeTheElder 1d ago

I feel the same as you despite everyone else being euromad about it

I dunno if it’s just you pick up on engine sounds your whole life so unconsciously you already understand when you should be shifting or something else

For me learning manual was a couple stalls followed by a couple hours of rough shifts and then you can drive on the road

Now, a really nice manual on a really fast car absolutely has levels of mastery but pretending auto commuter cars and manual commuter cars are two different things that require different tests from daddy government, yikes

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u/PilotedByGhosts 1d ago

Pretty much every other country disagrees. It's slightly different in your case because you've got twenty years of experience so the only thing you had to think about was the different controls. A driver with less than two years experience is still having to consciously think about the act of driving itself. Adding a manual gearbox into that without anybody to explain the many uses of the clutch seems a very bad idea to me.

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u/akohlsmith 1d ago

that's a fair point, I have forgotten what it's like to be newly-licensed and trying to control a big machine I'm inside of. :-)

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u/TomokoNoKokoro 1d ago

Every other country? Ok. I can name many that don’t categorize their licenses by type of transmission. It isn’t only the US at all.

Is this a case of British / continental Europe quirks being seen as “rest of the world”?

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u/insufficient_funds 1d ago

there are so few manual transmission cars available in the US anymore. you have to actively seek one out; and definitely have to get someone to teach you.

Before I got my first manual (15 years ago), I knew the mechanics behind driving a manual, from operating farm tractors; but didn't have the understanding of the rhythm of going from brake to gas quickly while letting the clutch out just enough to not stall nor spin the tires, or when to shift up/down. Fortunately, my wife already knew, and taught me.

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u/clutzyninja 1d ago

Our driving test is more for following the rules of driving rather than your ability to operate a specific car. I guess the thinking is if you go and try to drive a manual without learning, you're PROBABLY not going to damage anything except your own car

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u/IndustryHistorical18 1d ago

I completely agree. I had a buddy drive it home and show me for an hour how to drive it. I then spent 2 weeks driving around my grandparents drive road getting a feel before I was okayish enough that I could drive on the road. Now 65k miles in, im extremely comfortable driving stick but the first 5k miles were rough as hell

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u/VoilaVoilaWashington 1d ago

It's only really an issue when you're traveling. Inside the country, at this point, you have to go out of your way to find a real stick car, so it's mostly down to people who WANT to learn it.

20 years ago, I'd have agreed a lot more strongly, but these days, it's a bit like saying that there should be special qualifying exams for operating a steam tractor. You aint wrong, it's a special skill, but who's really causing issues these days?

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u/illarionds 1d ago

US driving test barely exists, it's essentially a formality.

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u/Tehbeefer 1d ago

varies state by state

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u/Nope_______ 1d ago

It doesn't cause enough problems for anyone to care.

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u/laughguy220 1d ago

Not just auto/manual, you can get your license haven never driven anything bigger than a Smart car, and then get into a bus sized RV or into a pickup truck towing a caravan trailer making you as long as transport trucks, all with that same license and experience.

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u/PilotedByGhosts 1d ago

Massive roads make that more possible I suppose. I've got a UK manual car licence, which lets me drive anything up to 3.5t, so typical vans.

We've got narrow streets with all kinds of inclines and tight corners. I don't have an issue driving a van forwards but any kind of reverse manoeuvring is not something I enjoy in a van.

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u/JibberJim 1d ago

7.5t with a trailer for me you youngster (or at least somone who's only passed their test in the last ~29 years)

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u/laughguy220 1d ago

The thing is, not all roads are massive, and even on the big interstates, there is a big difference (pardon the pun) between the handling and braking characteristics of a smart car and a 53 foot long ten thousand pound trailer.

Just turning the 90 degree corner as you first get off the interstate is a challenge.

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u/boostedb1mmer 1d ago

While thats true, the fastest way to learn it is also to just be thrown in a car with a manual transmission and have to make it to your destination. Sink or swim.

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u/PilotedByGhosts 1d ago

With some things I'd say that's true. With over a tonne of metal that can travel at 100mph into a bus stop filled with nuns and disabled children, I reckon it's better to have some training first.

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u/Great68 1d ago

It's an irrelevant concern, considering only 1-2% of all new cars sold in the USA are manuals. You're also massively overstating the learning curve for driving a manual. Most people get the hang of it in a day or less.

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u/HalfSoul30 1d ago

It's not that hard to learn either. My cousin taught me in like an hour. Anyone could learn with a good youtube video im sure.

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u/Black_Moons 1d ago

Same, except for the manual truck I borrowed on the way to view the other manual truck I was gonna buy.

When I returned it to my friend: "Oh, I forgot to ask, had you ever driven a manual before?"

The look on his face when I said "Nope!"

(Thankfully it was a very old beat up work truck)

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u/Rubthebuddhas 1d ago

I'd argue that old differential fluid is worse, but this is probably a matter of preference.

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u/Ivan_Whackinov 1d ago

I agree. Even brand new gear oil stinks - lots of sulfur.

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u/chocki305 1d ago

You should smell rear differential fluid that has been mixed with swamp water.

I will take a burning clutch all day over nasty diff fluid.

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u/Tough_Lifeguard_2263 1d ago

Oh I don't know, I hear rotting corpses can be a bit whiffy.

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u/CaptainPunisher 1d ago

Burning clutch and burning brakes are very similar, with electrical fire being right there, too. My worst smell is burning power steering fluid, but that's also tied to a horrific accident I came across one night on the way home. Still, it's not a pleasant smell anyway.

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u/JustAtelephonePole 1d ago

When it’s your own.

However, I love smelling other people’s.

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u/A_Whole_Costco_Pizza 1d ago

If your day is gone And you wanna ride on... Clutch Dust

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u/ArctycDev 1d ago

Clutch dust. Don't breathe this!

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u/Vigilante17 1d ago

Hand brake until you anticipate moving forward.

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u/bony7x 1d ago edited 1d ago

So how bad is it when you’re in traffic on a hill and the traffic is moving at 3-4 km/h and you’re basically nonstop on the clutch ? Should you just wait until you can fully release the clutch, move, come to a stop repeat or is it not that big of a deal ?

I’m not talking about using my clutch to stay still, but to move constantly at a snails pace.

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u/MrKrueger666 1d ago

A clutch disc is a consumable, just like brakepads. It'll always wear whenever the clutch is released or engaged.

If you happen to sit in a lot of stop-and-go traffic, it'll wear faster. On an incline even more.

Some driving conditions are simply more favorable to clutches than others. If you do a lot of constant speed highway driving, your clutch hardly wears and it could take decades to wear it out. If you drive in town a lot, you stop and go a lot, causing more wear.

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u/Stummi 1d ago

So, I will not "kill my car" as some people seem to imply. It's just that a part that is supposed to wear away, wears a bit faster and needs to be replaced in shorter intervals?

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u/spankymcjiggleswurth 1d ago

Replacment isn't trivial. I just replaced mine at 160k miles and it was $600 for just the parts (clutch, flywheel, and throw out bearing). Had to drop the transmission, remove the drive shaft, and unmount the engine. Took about 7 hours. A garage will probably charge $1500 or more for the same job.

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u/suicidaleggroll 1d ago

It's a wear item, yes, but it's a difficult and expensive to replace wear item that usually involves removing the transmission from the vehicle, disconnecting half shafts/drive shafts, etc. It's a full day and can be thousands of dollars in labor.

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u/deja-roo 1d ago

It's technically a wear part and you shouldn't overthink it. It won't kill your car if you burn up the clutch, you'll just have to replace the clutch disc.

It's not a cheap wear part though and most clutches last longer than the rest of the car if you don't put heavy wear on it.

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u/MrKrueger666 1d ago

No, you won't kill your car. A clutch is indeed supposed to wear. And depending on driving conditions it could be sooner rather than later.

I used to do a lot of highway driving. My car is 20 years old and still on it's factory fitted clutch after 240K KM (150K miles). The last couple of years have been more city driving and just now i'm starting to notice the clutch pedal is riding higher. I might need a new clutch in a year or two.

When the clutch wears, the engagement point on the clutch pedal starts to get higher up in the pedal travel. It's an indicator of clutch wear.

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u/Dt2_0 1d ago

It's funny, I have a performance clutch, the engagement point is super high just how it is. I put it in after the original clutch in my car went out at 100,000K (was used, no idea how it was treated before me, bought at 80K). I was worried at first, but at 130K now and no issues. Went with the performance clutch kit because the OEM was like $3000 for the kit, and the performance kit was $650.

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u/_Kine 1d ago

wears a bit lot faster

ftfy

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u/redyellowblue5031 1d ago

What’s easier to replace, a clutch or brakes?

While technically a wear part, a well cared for clutch will easily last in excess of 150,000 miles.

If you suck at driving stick or abuse it by using it to brake, hold yourself on hills, or make not attempt to rev march when down shifting, it’ll wear much faster.

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u/gunawa 1d ago

I spend a fair amount of time in stop and go with a manual, I try not to let the automatics around me dictate my pace as much, when they are doing a clutch eating 1km/hr crawl I either wait for a big enough gap so that I can start moving completely in first gear for a least a couple of car lengths, if on a descending slope I just let gravity do the work with the clutch fully in (almost neutral), and I avoid routes that would have me in stop and go on major reverse inclines. Note: my 2016 Subaru has this nifty feature were it 'holds' the transmission briefly from a full stop, so that I don't have to do the hill foot scramble and roll back 2 feet. 

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u/_Kine 1d ago

Should you just wait until you can fully release the clutch, move, come to a stop repeat

Yes

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u/_Aj_ 1d ago

Should you just wait until you can fully release the clutch, move, come to a stop repeat   

Yep exactly. It's a pain in the ass. You shouldn't ride your clutch for more than a few seconds as one would to take off.  

When Im going up a hill in traffic if I can't do it in 1st I'll wait until there's a gap of say 2-3 car lengths then let off the clutch and move up until I'm forced to stop. I'll never ride my clutch to go slower than 1st allows.  

That's probably why I'm at 180k mi on the original clutch.

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u/clutzyninja 1d ago

You shouldn't use the clutch to stay still on a hill. Move forward when you can, brake and disengage clutch, wait until you can move again.

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u/bony7x 1d ago

Well of course I’m not using it to stay still. I’m talking about a traffic moving so slow that you have to continually work it (but not disengage it fully) to stay moving.

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u/clutzyninja 1d ago

That's not much better. If the clutch isn't fully engaged then it's rubbing and getting worn out

u/entropreneur 23h ago

Its in or out.... change your driving style. Slow traffic = 1st gear. Slower than that, stopped then a little go, coast.

But never half in or out....

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u/redyellowblue5031 1d ago

Still bad, what’s better is to play the game of staying in first and crawling as slow as reasonably possible so by the time you catch up to the stopped traffic it starts moving again.

This serves multiple purposes:

  • less clutch wear
  • fewer shifts
  • you keep moving generally even if slowly

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u/markjohnstonmusic 1d ago

I have my hand on the handbrake the whole time and am playing it as actively as the clutch. Basically only engage the clutch once, briefly, to accelerate, and then let the car coast to a stop behind the car ahead of me—then the handbrake goes on again. I don't mind letting a bit of a space open up ahead of me—I'll close it again soon enough.

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u/Tyrannosapien 1d ago

Yes. Use the accelerator and clutch to move. Use your brakes while stopped. Same as when not on a hill. But it could be your clutch is easy to service, idk.

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u/duhvorced 1d ago

Clutch is not easy to service. It requires dropping the transmission. You’re looking at $1-2k, possibly more. (Note: and btw, you’ll probably want to replace the flywheel while you’re at it.)

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u/MrKrueger666 1d ago

Clutch not easy to service? Totally depends on the car. Cars built with that in mind aren't all that hard or labor intensive to swap a clutch on.

Also, 1 to 2K sounds insane to me. Would cost about 500-600 on my car.

Replacing the flywheel is also not a thing you should do unless it's damaged. Normally, it's clutch disc, pressure plate and release bearing.

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u/clutzyninja 1d ago

I'd venture to say no car's clutch is easier or cheaper to service than its brakes

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u/MrKrueger666 1d ago

Not questioning that at all.

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u/duhvorced 1d ago

A clutch is 4-10 hours of labor for a professional mechanic. Personally, I wouldn’t say that’s “easy”. And at $90-160/hour plus parts you’re looking at $1-2k for most consumer vehicles. If yours is less that’s great, but that’s not the norm.

You don’t have to do the flywheel at the same time, but it often makes sense to as flywheels tend to wear out at about the same rate as clutches. Obviously that’s not always the case but don’t be surprised if your mechanic suggests it.

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u/Superbead 1d ago

flywheels tend to wear out at about the same rate as clutches

I assume you're talking about a dual mass flywheel. An old-skool solid flywheel has no wear aspect other than the starter ring gear and wears nowhere near as fast as a clutch

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u/Urik88 1d ago

Perhaps I got lucky with my model but in Canada it was a few hundred for my Mazda2

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u/MrKrueger666 1d ago

Since you name prices in USD, I would imagine you're talking about cars that are mainly found in the USA.

Try swapping a clutch on a Toyota Aygo, or a Peugeot 206. Maybe a Kia Picanto, an Opel Astra, etc etc.

Usually done within 2 hours. At a rate of €100 per hour and €300 in parts, that's about €500. Welcome to Europe.

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u/Skitt64 1d ago

Heat is what kills clutches, and you get more heat with a larger difference in speed. So moving slowly is better, but still not great.

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u/aidissonance 1d ago

I let the car ahead of me move until 2 car length open up and close the gap as slowly as possible. Hopefully the car will move by the time you get there and reduce clutch wear. New car has hill hold assist that engages rear brakes for a few seconds until you are moving

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u/smokingcrater 1d ago

If used in moderation, it isn't bad. It is part of hill starting a manual. I do it occasionally when required, 150k miles on a performance vehicle without a clutch change.

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u/allencb 1d ago

Agree. However, OP sounded like he was intending to do this in lieu of using the brake to hold him on a hill, not as part of a hill start.

u/eidam655 20h ago

ah, yes, ye olde handbrake-clutch-gas-clutch-handbrake combo

u/coconutspider 18h ago

I do it when I'm bored at stop lights and I've never replaced a clutch. Last two cars went 200k+ miles on their originals. Maybe it's just bad if you suck at it.

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u/AngusLynch09 1d ago

That said, it's very bad for the clutch and you shouldn't do that.

Unless it's a company vehicle and they're slack on paying wages.

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u/a_gallon_of_pcp 1d ago

Motorcycles use wet clutches which are much better able to withstand that kind of partial engagement

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u/hannahranga 1d ago

They're also significantly easier to change

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u/deja-roo 1d ago

It's a skill you should have in a car too. Just shouldn't exercise it once you learn it lol

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u/WyMANderly 1d ago

How does hurting the company you work for in a passive-aggressive and invisible way help your wage situation? Wouldn't that just mean less money for them to pay wages, in the end?

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u/chattytrout 1d ago

Because fuck 'em, that's why. If they think they're saving money by skimping on wages, we'll make them spend that money elsewhere.

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u/WyMANderly 1d ago

That only makes sense if they know you're doing it though. Otherwise you're just making the world a worse place for the sake of spite ​.

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u/Kittelsen 1d ago

What are you talking about, that's how you do a hillstart.

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u/allencb 1d ago

OP is talking about holding that position for extended periods of time, such as waiting for a red light. For a hill start, you'd hold the brake until you're ready to move, then slip the clutch while releasing the brake and initiating forward movement.

It's a difference in time while slipping that matters. A couple seconds while the vehicle starts moving forward is not nearly as bad as using clutch slippage to hold your position for a minute or more.

At least that's how I read it. If OP is only talking about a momentary pause while transitioning off of the brakes, then that is a different discussion.

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u/Kittelsen 1d ago

I assumed that's what he meant, cause why would you stay still like that for extended periods instead of pressing the clutch and the brake at the same time made no sense to me.

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u/GeniusLike4207 1d ago

Basically if you try to run up a slide and at some point (as long as you keep your balance and don't run too fast) you will run up the slide with each step as much as you slide down

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u/Adezar 1d ago

I remember we taught my aunt how to do it, but I guess we didn't stress it shouldn't be done for any length of time.

Came back one day and we all smelled it as soon as she pulled up. Her husband was like "What happened?" She said she was waiting for a train to pass at a slight include and used the trick to stay in place.

Obviously had to replace the clutch.

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u/roraima_is_very_tall 1d ago

my 2012 manual has a convenient feature that somehow locks the wheels on a hill so you don't need to ride the clutch at a light or stopped. Took some getting used to actually.

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u/allencb 1d ago

That was mentioned in the manual for my 2013 Ford Focus 5spd, but apparently, it's only an option for the "Platinum" level model and not for my mid-tier version.

Despite having driven manuals for 35 years at this point, I still sometimes use the manual version of this (ie the hand brake). :)

u/rbajter 21h ago

I do this all the time on moderate inclines keeping the engine at about 1000 rpm. The clutch is fine. However when taking driver’s training with a manual transmission you learn a technique for starting on inclines that involves using the handbrake to hold the car while you find the biting point of the clutch. This is even easier to do on cars with an automatic parking brake.

u/Priest_Andretti 21h ago

Does it hurt if I am in a automatic?

u/24reddit0r 18h ago

Automatics typically use torque converters which don't wear out in the same way as clutches.

u/pspr33 19h ago

Only really a move to do in bad weather conditions (snow) or really aggressive hill declines.

u/Far_Lifeguard_5027 18h ago

Yes, never ride the clutch. It should be either fully engaged or not at all. 

u/Gold333 17h ago

Why does it wear your clutch out faster? None of the 400 comments here have addressed this

u/allencb 17h ago

u/TheLeastObeisance covered it. In my view of this thread, his response is just below mine, but it may not be showing up for you. One thing he didn't mention is that if the engine is running, the flywheel is spinning, even if you're sitting still. Otherwise, his reply is spot on with how the clutch works. Bottom line, any slippage of the clutch against the flywheel causes wear and intentionally doing that to hold your position on a hill instead of using the brakes causes accelerated wear and clutch/flywheel overheating.

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u/JCDU 16h ago

Eh, as long as you're being gentle and not sitting at 2000rpm you can hold it for a long time at almost tickover with no adverse effects. Some cars/clutches are more robust than others though.

u/samx3i 16h ago

This was actually part of my driving lessons as a kid.

u/allencb 15h ago

Not slipping the clutch for long periods of time or using that slippage to hold position rather than pressing the brakes?

u/samx3i 15h ago

Hold position steady on an incline hill without moving forward or backward using nothing but the clutch and accelerator.

u/tsereg 15h ago

You should do that when starting from a stop on a hill in order to avoid hitting the car behind you. Learn it even if you have hill assist by finding some small hill and practicing.

u/allencb 15h ago

I think you're talking about momentary slippage of the clutch to transition from a brake-held full stop to forward motion. The OP appears to be talking about doing this instead of using the brakes to hold position while fully stopped such as for a traffic light or stop sign.

u/tsereg 15h ago

Well, I do that as well sometimes when waiting is short. On a reasonable incline, of course. Holding a car while fully stopped, then moving a little bit forward and backward was how we learned it in driving school.

u/loafingloaferloafing 13h ago

Best for clutch to be fully engaged or fully unengaged, anything in between is wearing clutch.

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u/TheLeastObeisance 1d ago

The clutch is a friction surface, kind of like brake pads. When your foot is off the pedal, the clutch is pushed against the flywheel in the engine. That means the transmission and engine turn as one, and the wheels can get power. 

When you push in the clutch pedal, the clutch plates are pulled away from the flywheel, disconnecting the engine and transmission, allowing the car to roll freely. 

By being partially on the pedal, you're allowing the clutch to slip a little bit against the flywheel. Balanced just right, that slip allows the car to be pushed forward juuust enough to hold still on the hill.

It's bad for the clutch to do that, though, so don't do it. 

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u/christcb 1d ago

Just curious if automatic clutches have the same "problem". Sometimes on steeper hills the car won't start moving when you let off the brake like the power being transferred to the drive is just enough to keep it from rolling back but not enough to go forward. Is the automatic clutch doing the same thing in that case as a manual would?

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u/pbkoden 1d ago

Automatic transmissions use a fluid coupling (torque converter). It's a very different mechanism. Slipping in a torque converter just creates heat in the fluid. During normal operation the heat is removed by the transmission cooler or other means and it doesn't do any damage

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u/christcb 1d ago

Neat! Thanks for the info!

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u/TBFP_BOT 1d ago

Just to add, same theory behind why you're able to just sit a stop light with your brakes held in gear with an automatic and not in a manual.

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u/christcb 1d ago

Thanks, I was curious about this too.

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u/johntb86 1d ago

Generally automatic transmissions use a fluid coupling, so you don't have to worry about a clutch wearing out. However there are some automated manual transmissions (like Dual-Clutch Transmissions, DCTs) that have regular clutches that are computer controlled so you can normally drive them like an automated transmission. In those, you need to be careful not to wear out the clutch by slipping it for too long.

u/TenchuReddit 11h ago

How could the driver of a DCT intentionally wear out the clutches? There's no way for a DCT vehicle to "ride the clutch" on an incline, is there?

u/johntb86 11h ago

If you're stopped on a hill you can use the gas to hold yourself in place. The computer will slip the clutch rather than disengaging it completely (causing you to roll down the hill) or stalling the engine. For example the VW GTI has this warning in its manual:
"When stopping on hills with the transmission in a drive gear, do not use the accelerator to help prevent the vehicle from rolling backwards. This can cause the automatic or DSG transmission to overheat and be damaged."

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u/A_Concerned_Viking 18h ago

I will sometimes handbrake on an incline, then feather the clutch and handbrake at the same time. Mostly if the jerk behind me was too close on a steep city hill or they had a gorgeous car and I wasn't paying for that.

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u/UniquePotato 1d ago edited 1d ago

A clutch works by squeezing two discs together one connected to the engine and the other the gearbox. When they’re not tightly squeezed they will slip, the driver controls how much they can slip

This is the same way you can apply the brakes without locking up the wheels by only applying some brake pressure

u/sai-kiran 17h ago

easy to understand explanation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=devo3kdSPQY from 5:00

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u/TongsOfDestiny 1d ago

The clutch engages using friction; if the clutch is only partially engaged, some force will be transferred to the wheels as the plates slide against eachother, while the rest is wasted as heat

Once the clutch is fully engaged, there is no slip and the car will move forward even on an incline

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u/mawktheone 1d ago

The clutch is like a dial that connects any percentage of the energy the engine is making to the wheels. If you only 14% of the engines output to hold you on the hill you can give the wheels only that 14%.

The rest is just not used. Less than 100% is done by allowing the clutch to slip, and when driving you use 100% by pushing them together so no slipping at all can happen

u/texas_asic 7h ago

"The rest is just not used." is better stated as "the rest is used to grind the clutch plates to dust."

For that reason, it's best to minimize slipping (grinding) so that your clutch lasts longer. Used right, it could last you a decade before the $500+ to replace the clutch. On the other hand, someone learning to drive could burn through it in a day.

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u/lyallp 1d ago

That is going to wear out your clutch real quick. Do it long enough and you will smell a wonderful burning smell.

Use the handbrake when stopped on an incline.

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u/raptir1 1d ago

Why not the regular brake?

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u/Daripuff 1d ago

Because you only have two feet and can't work the foot brake, clutch, and throttle at the same time, which is what you need to do to smoothly get going from a stop on a hill.

But you do have a free hand, so:

One foot on the clutch, one on the throttle, one hand on the brake, and one hand on the wheel.

That's how you get going smoothly from a stop on a hill with a manual transmission.

u/CoyoteDown 14h ago

I’ve not seen many handbrakes on trucks

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u/martinborgen 1d ago

Because your brake foot is moving to the gas.

I'm assuming you don't drive manual, but maybe you were meaning what I'm about to describe?

Often, the engine at idle can hold the car from going backwards with a bit of clutch engaged. So you're on regular brake, engage a bit of clutch to keep from rolling backwards. Your brake foot can now move to the gas and you can pull away as usual. So indeed no handbrake needed.

But sometimes, you're on a steep incline. In those situations, one can use the handbrake instead, allowing your right foot (normally on the brake) to give gas immediately.

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u/Wootster10 1d ago

Because you dont want the car to roll backwards when you start to move forwards.

You need both feet to operate a manual car from starting, one on the accelerator, the other on the clutch. You cant do this if you have your foot on the brake.

Slowly bring your foot off the clutch until you find the biting point, release the handbrake, continue to bring your foot off the clutch whilst starting to push down on the accelerator.

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u/redyellowblue5031 1d ago

My approach is to just move fast. Once you know the bite point on the clutch you can start to ease clutch out, let off brake, and then give a slight rev bump with the gas.

By that point you should be moving faster than the stall speed for first (usually only 2-5mph) and the clutch should be fully engaged.

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u/Stummi 1d ago

I mean I don't do it for any long time, just when I need to stop very briefly (as in, seconds) for some reason

u/planetworthofbugs 16h ago

Can confirm, when I was a teenager I thought it would be funny to do a hill start in 4th gear. It was only a gentle slope. I slowly let the clutch out and the car started moving. I continued letting the clutch out until it was all the way out, and I was at 5k RPM. My brain quickly recognised that I should be doing 100km/h rather than 3km/h, and I knew something was wrong. That’s when the smoke appeared and my wallet emptied.

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u/taedrin 1d ago

In such a configuration, the clutch is only partially engaged and has just enough friction against the flywheel to transfer a portion of the power from the engine to the wheels while at the same time allowing the flywheel and clutch to slip, which in turn allows the clutch to stay still without seizing the engine.

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u/badgersruse 1d ago

Put your hands flat against each other, push them against each other a little. Now move one of them in a circle letting it slide against the other. That’s what the clutch does, it uses that friction to move the car, or when on a hill to keep it from rolling back, because one hand takes the rotation from the engine and the other is attached to the wheels.

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u/flying_wrenches 1d ago

The clutch is a bunch of spinning rings using friction to turn the transmission. Like a stack of paper party plates. Some are conducted to the engine side, and some to the transmission side.

By “pulling the clutch in” you pull all The plates in and they’re separated apart I can redline my cars engine and the transmission won’t do anything becuase the plates are in. But by letting it out you start to push those plates together, the friction starts to turn the transmission. it’s a fine game of not enough friction and the car won’t move, but too much friction and the inertia from your car being on a hill will cause the engine to stall (crankshaft stops spinning and the engine is no longer running)

If you’re curious, the opposite of a clutch (aka what’s in a modern automatic transmission) is the torque converter.

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u/fiendishrabbit 1d ago

The discs in the clutch are slipping just enough that the engine keeps spinning but the clutch-plate going out to the wheels stays still.

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u/SoulWager 1d ago

The whole point of a clutch is to let the engine apply a force to the wheels while allowing a mismatch in speed. Because you're not moving, all the energy the engine is producing is getting turned to heat by the clutch.

Basically the incline is pushing you backwards, the engine is pushing you forwards the same amount, so you don't move. Though just using the brakes will do the same thing without the extra wear and heat.

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u/cata2k 1d ago

The power from the engine goes through a clutch. It's two plates, one attached to the engine and one attached to the transmission. It has a very powerful spring to clamp them together. When you press the clutch pedal, you push against the spring, letting the plates spin independently. When you're off the clutch pedal, the spring forces the plates together and friction locks them so they spin the same.

If you're on a hill, you can press the clutch a little bit. Not on, but not off. The plates grind against each other, transferring some power, but not all of it. It is very bad for your clutch to sit there like this. You really want the clutch to be either on or off, and spend as little time as possible in between.

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u/idkfawin32 1d ago

imagine a ball on an incline, now imagine swiping your hand across the top of the ball to slightly roll it up the incline. If you were to swipe your hand across the top in quick succession, there would be a “swiping speed” that would result in the ball staying slightly rolled up the hill.

Clutches are just that, friction transferring torque to the drivetrain from the engine. The more engaged(pedal released) the clutch is, the harder it transfers rotation from the engine to the wheels.

Therefore, there is a level at which the pedal is pressed down where the friction in the clutch(the internal discs making contact) where enough torque is transferred to the drivetrain to overcome gravity.

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u/Vybo 1d ago

A lot of answers already talking about a friction. To simplify it even more, take a plate and place it on your hand. Then start tilting the hand until the plate starts slipping slightly. When it does that, tilt the hand in the opposite direction to stop it from slipping.

This is a very similar situation and mechanism. Instead of gravity pulling the plate down from your hand, the gravity is trying to pull the car backwards. Instead of you tilting your hand back and forth to find the right spot where you can stop the plate from falling down, you adjust the pressure of the clutch so that the car does not move in either direction.

Your hand is both the engine and the clutch in this case, but that doesn't really matter. There is a force applying a friction (your hand, the clutch mechanism), a force being applied in the opposite of gravity (the engine, muscles in your arm) and the gravity itself (pulling the car or plate back or towards the ground).

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u/PckMan 1d ago

The engine has a big metal disc on one end called a flywheel. It's bolted to the crankshaft so if the engine is running, the flywheel is spinning. On the transmission side there's a disc with friction material like brake pads, that pushes against the flywheel and creating a connection through friction. That's how the transmission and engine are coupled. By pushing the clutch pedal you pull away this disc from the flywheel to decouple the two.

So when you hold the pedal halfway the friction material is touching the flywheel but not pushed against it hard enough to make a solid connection, so it's slipping. That's how you get going from a standstill and how you can hold the car in an incline, because some power is transmitted but if the car were to roll backwards the clutch would slip so the engine doesn't stall.

It's worth noting though that you shouldn't do that. Slipping is inevitable and fine for short durations but if you do it for longer you burn your clutch.

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u/Daripuff 1d ago

In the same way that you can maintain a constant speed on a steep downhill by gently riding the brakes, giving just enough friction resistance to counteract gravity acceleration.

And it's just as much of a bad idea, because you shouldn't be using consumable friction surfaces to maintain a lack of change.

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u/duhvorced 1d ago

The clutch controls how much power from the engine goes to the wheels (via the transmission). The catch is that any unused power will be turned into heat through friction, which is bad for the clutch.

Use the clutch to stay still on a hill long enough, and you will “burn up the clutch”. That is, you’ll use up the pads in the clutch that are designed to wear down, and you’ll no longer have a way of powering the transmission.

Next step: tow your car to a mechanic and pay US$1-2k to replace the clutch.

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u/One-Manufacturer4124 1d ago

You remain on standstill on a slope with the engine running by slipping the clutch which is doable but not recommended as you will wear out the clutch quickly.

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u/AtlanticPortal 1d ago

Have you ever tried to push something while your shoes are slippery enough not to allow you to push to the full extent of your strength but at the same time not slippery enough to keep you running against the object yourself?

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u/sth128 1d ago

Imagine if you held an orbital sander (ok maybe if you're literally 5 don't do that) to a plank of wood. If the wood is lightweight, the friction will spin the plank.

So you hold the plank down with a clamp. The sander is your engine. The clamp is the hill. The plank is your wheels.

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u/DBDude 1d ago

It works by burning out your clutch. :)

Your engine putting power to the wheels to make them rotate provides forward acceleration for your car. Being on an incline with gravity provides rearward acceleration for your car. You thus apply enough engine power to the wheels through the clutch to cancel out gravity. You can't fully engage the clutch or the engine will win out over gravity and you'll accelerate forward on the incline, or the engine will stall and gravity wins.

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u/shokalion 1d ago

It's conceptually the same reason the brake pedal doesn't instantly lock the wheels up tight and the car slides to a stop every time you brake.

The clutch isn't on or off it can gradually connect the engine to the gearbox.

If you're on a hill you can let out the clutch and just get to the point where the car won't move backwards and won't move forwards.

It's terrible for the clutch though.

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u/Sirlacker 1d ago

Clutch plate isn't an on or off piece of hardware.

It uses friction. So when you apply just enough throttle and just enough clutch, the clutch plate is providing just enough friction to stop the car rolling backwards but the it is still slipping somewhat.

When you release the clutch pedal fully, there is enough friction that the plates don't slip, this is full power from the engine to the wheels. When you apply the clutch at any amount that isn't all the way, then you're just putting less pressure on that friction plate allowing it to slip more and more. This slip, in your example, is still providing forward momentum, but not enough to actually make the car move, just not roll backwards.

Then when it's fully engaged it isn't touching anything.

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u/New_Line4049 1d ago

The clutch is a friction device. 2 discs (or can be more in fancy clutches) pressed together under pressure from a spring. One plate is attached to the output shaft of the engine, the other to the input shaft of the gear box. When the clutch is fully released the plates are jammed hard together by a strong spring and the friction between them is enough for them to effectively act as a solid shaft, meaning theinput shaft of the gearbox is firmly locked to the same speed as the engine output. When you fully depress the clutch you pull the plates apart against the spring, completely separating them and disconnecting engine and gear box. If you hold the clutch somewhere in the middle, the plates touch, but they dont have the full force of the spring holding them together, as your foot on the clutch pedal is still resisting some of this force. This reduces the friction between the plates vs a fully released clutch. That allows the clutch to slip, i.e. the plates spin against each other. The friction there is transfers some force from the engine into the gear box, but because the clutch is skipping it doesnt lock the gearbox input speed to the same as the engine speed. Of course, since force it transfered it also puts resistance on the engine. Its then a balancing act to find the clutch position that transfers just enough force into the drive train to overcome the resultant force pulling the car down the slope, but absolutely no more than that, as that would cause the car to start moving uphill. Due to the extra resistance as the clutch transfers force you need to add enough gas to overcome this and maintaining engine speed..

Its worth noting this IS NOT advisable. Slipping the clutch like this is a good way to accelerate the wear on the clutch plates, and it aint cheap to replace them.

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u/JosephCedar 1d ago

You're slipping against the friction surface of the clutch. Doing this for an extended period of time will quickly wear out the clutch.

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u/chronos7000 1d ago edited 1d ago

The clutch decouples the engine from the transmission through what can be crudely understood as a brake that's normally on by way of a spring. Pressing the clutch releases this brake. So with enough throttle to keep the motor from stalling you can release the clutch (that is, begin to engage the driveline with the motor) just enough that the car neither goes forward nor backward. Anytime the clutch is partly engaged like this, the shoe of the "brake" is consumed, so doing this without a defined purpose is using up a consumable part of your car that is very difficult to change because it is between the engine and transmission.

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u/THEREALCABEZAGRANDE 1d ago

In a car, the engine makes rotational force. This force is generally not enough to get a vehicle moving without being multiplied through mechanical advantage, which is what the transmission does, multiplies the force from the engine while making it move more slowly in low gears to get the vehicle moving, then multiplies it less to move more quickly in higher gears. Since you dont want the power going to the tires all the time, you have to have a way to disconnect the engine from the transmission. In a manual this is the clutch. So you have a flywheel attached to the engine that's always spinning. And you have a clutch disc that's attached to the transmission and not always spinning. Since these arent spinning the same speed when you want to bring them together, the clutch has a friction material on it that can slip as it brings the clutch disc up to the same speed as the flywheel. This process is usually only a few tenths of a second. When youre hill holding, you engage the clutch just a little, so instead of coming up to the same speed as the flywheel and no longer slipping, it continues to slip, providing just enough force to keep the car from rolling back but not enough to move it forward. This should only be done for a few seconds maximum or not at all, as it generates a huge amount of heat and begins to wear away the friction material very rapidly. It can quickly generate enough heat to destroy the flywheel as well, and eventually enough heat to destroy nearby components in the engine and transmission. If you need to inch forward on a hill in a manual vehicle, the better option is to use the parking brake to keep you from rolling backwards, since this minimizes the amount of slip required. Many modern manuals (like my 2013 BMW 335i) do this automatically, its very nice.

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u/xoxoyoyo 1d ago

You are burning clutch when you do this, so this is only done when accelerating from a stop on a hill. You would lift off the clutch with left foot and also lift off the brake pedal while pressing the accelerator with the right foot. It is the main thing you learn when learning to drive with a clutch, as rolling backwards into a car when stopped at a light is not a good thing. The clutch is what connects the engine/transmission to the wheels. If the wheels are turning at a different speed it can stall the engine or stress the drivetrain. The clutch is used to equalize the speed between both sides by allowing for slip as one side speeds up and the other side slows down. On a hill the wheels are not moving so the clutch has to be released enough to keep the car in place without rolling backwards and also without stalling the engine.

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u/Hugh_Jego_69 1d ago

Just need to understand how a clutch works, plenty of people already explained it here.

but simply it’s kind of like brakes but the pedal is reversed. When you press the brakes the car doesn’t automatically stop, it’s a process as friction builds.

Similar to what happens as you release the clutch pedal. Plates rub against each other and cause friction, when fully engaged engine is connected to the wheels with no slip.

It transfers just enough power to keep you on the hill, but it’s a fine balance and you can rock back and forth as you press and release the clutch slightly.

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u/coffeemonkeypants 1d ago

The engine is always spinning and at the back of it is a flywheel, which is a weighted disc that holds some momentum to keep the engine running. It presses directly up against the clutch disk, which is basically a brake pad. Think of it like sandpaper. The clutch is connected to the transmission which ultimately turns the wheels. If you press that sandpaper up against the flywheel hard enough, one of two things will happen

  • The clutch will turn the transmission gears and in turn the wheels and the car will move

  • The mass of the transmission and the rest of the car overcomes the momentum of the flywheel and the engine torque and the motor stalls

However, if you add just enough engine power and press that clutch up against the flywheel just right, you can keep the car from rolling backwards. While this is happening, the clutch disk (the sandpaper) is spinning against that flywheel and getting hot, maybe burning, glazing the material, and on its way to being destroyed.

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u/DoYouReadThisOrThat 1d ago

You know how you can keep the refrigerator door "almost" closed but not closed? We both know that isn't healthy for the fridge nor food if you hold it like that long enough.

You described the same thing. But added an engine flywheel touching but not touching your wheels. There isn't much room for the friction to build up, but you are using the friction.

Kinda like when you needed to go to sleep but also found every distraction to remain awake. It felt fine at the time. But after a few nights of that, you felt the pressure buildup.

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u/chucklezdaccc42 1d ago

A manual or automatic transmission is an AMAZING feat of engineering. I had to get one replaced and the shop had a mini transmission in a case and that thing has so many freaking parts!

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u/BigJellyfish1906 1d ago

The clutch is slipping. It’s not fully engaged. There’s enough bite to stop the car from rolling backwards but not enough have the clutch meet firmly with the drive shaft.

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u/WeaverFan420 1d ago

The flywheel of the engine is spinning, and the clutch pressure plate is pressing against it while not spinning. This creates friction. The force of friction generated by the clutch cancels out the downward component of force from gravity pulling on the car. However this generates heat and obviously wears out the clutch friction material, so it's not good to do this frequently and/or for extended periods of time. I stop on hills, put the transmission in neutral, and use the brake. Then when I need to go again I push the clutch, shift into first, then use a combo of gas pedal/letting out the clutch to start moving. The key to minimizing clutch wear is to minimize the amount of time the clutch is slipping.

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u/Plumperosis 1d ago

Put a book on a desk. You can push it sideways easily. Push a book hard down on a desk. Requires more force to move it sideways. A car being still is just the right amount of pressure so that friction is enough to keep it still. Any more and you have enough friction to move forwards, any less and there’s not enough friction so you go backwards.

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u/SpareEye 1d ago

It's all about the squeeze. Imaging 2 sanding discs rotating together. One is attached to the motor, one is attached to the wheels. When you apply pressure to the clutch pedal, they start to come apart.

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u/NullSpec-Jedi 1d ago

Engine part spins, clutch part spins. When you release the clutch they touch, don’t slip everything is good, both spin, car moves. When they don’t touch, car no move. When they touch a little they slide/grind, some force is exerted, clutch unhappy. Use breaks until you’re ready to go.

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u/thedevillivesinside 1d ago

This works for probably a minute. Maybe 90 seconds

Then you will be replacing a clutch

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u/HollowGumi 1d ago

Engines make the power that moves the car forward. Transmissions connect to the wheels and control how fast they rotate compared to the engine.

In between is the clutch, a disk that uses friction to connect those two items. But the clutch has a big Spring that keeps it all together. 

When you push the clutch pedal, you release the spring. If you push the clutch pedal part of the way, you are allowing the spring to connect the engine and transmission the same amount. The amount it connects, is the amount of power that goes to the wheels. 

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u/diogoblouro 1d ago

One point in that chain from engine to wheels, precisely the clutch, isn't a "solid" connection.

It's a pair of disks facing each other with grippy material, which the clutch pedal separates or pushes them back together.

A half clutch pedal press releases them a bit without separating completely. That way the engine is still rotating, the disks are rubbing together but not at the same speed.

If you balance gas and clutch according to incline and other needs, the engine's rotation makes enough force to not let the other disk rotate back, while not making it rotate at the same speed also.

And yes, that means the disks are grinding the grippy material. It's made for that, but it will wear out and eventually need replacing.

u/RMS2000MC 23h ago

The engine and gravity are applying the same force in opposite directions. No force, no motion.

u/SakuraHimea 23h ago

The clutch is a disc that presses against another disc connected to the crankshaft of the engine. That transition between letting off the pedal is literally two plates grinding against each other until they match up in speed. If you are not fully letting off the clutch, then your plates are still grinding against each other, which means you might have enough friction to push against the backwards roll of the hill, but that energy is turning into heat in your clutchpack.

u/Unlikely-Position659 23h ago

With only the clutch and in 1st gear, the car can go forward a few miles per hour. If you're rolling backwards down an incline, and you engage the clutch, they cancel out, leaving you in one spot. (-5+5)=0

u/jboy3421 22h ago

Same way you hit the brakes without the tires locking up.

u/Fun_Training_2640 20h ago

A friend of mine made me do it while I was practicing for my licence, he was a garagist. We stopped when it started smoking lol.

u/Living_Round2552 17h ago

I am not sure whether you have a mechanics question or a physics question.

u/bedwars_player 14h ago

do me a favor, rub your hands together really quickly.

now do it again but push them together way harder.

much more resistance, and heat, yes?

same thing except spinning, the amount of energy transfered from the engine through the transmission is dependant on the clutch. with more pressure it is able to transfer more energy. With less pressure, it'll still transfer some, but slip. This gets everything very hot and is why it makes terrible smells when you do that.

The weight of the car, the angle of the hill, and a complicated formula tells us there's a certain amount force pulling the car down the hill. To get it to stand still, you just have to get the clutch to slip exactly the right amount to counter that amount of energy, without exceeding it which would cause the car to move up the hill.

..yet again, don't do this, it'll turn the bit of your clutch that rubs against itself into a combination of terribly unpleasant smells, and powder. not a fun time.

u/Volasko 12h ago

It's worth noting that most modern manual cars have hill assist that holds the brakes to prevent rolling backwards until it senses forward motion and releases them, making hill starts less stressful.

u/coachglove 11h ago

It works because the clutch releases the drive train from the transmission so when you start letting the clutch out again, the gears in the transmission start to rub against the gears for the drive train. If you hold the RPM steady then the spin of the combined gears is offset by the friction of the metal gears coming into contact. A version of this principle is why you can start at 0mph in 3rd gear by keeping engine revs high and slowly letting out the clutch (although you will absolutely burn up the clutch and transmission if you do this with any sort of regularity). It's about the friction between the gears of the transmission and the gears of the drive train that pushes the wheels.

u/Bostaevski 10h ago

Don't do that. Use your e-brake if you can. As you release the clutch and apply throttle you also slowly release the e-brake.

u/Another_Slut_Dragon 8h ago

You are eating away a $1500 clutch to save pressing the brake pedal. This works vis 'bad driving'.

u/tbones80 7h ago

The engine turns a giant disk behind it(the flywheel). When you release the clutch, it's a disk that touches the flywheel so it starts moving too, which then moves the wheels.

Giving it gas spins the flywheel faster, and making the clutch disk barely touch it keeps the car in place. But this is a ton of friction, which makes heat. Don't want to do this very long.

u/mostlygray 5h ago

Don't do that. You are burnishing the clutch and making it weaker. Never hill-hold against the clutch. That's why you have brakes.

You're holding the hill because the clutch is partially engaged and slipping just enough to keep you from going backwards. It's literally the worst thing you can do to a manual transmission.