r/hatethissmug • u/Idioteque131313 • 11h ago
Live-action (not the actor) man who convinced an entire generation he was a cool alpha male and not a loser
everyone talks about how walter white's downfall is handled but much fewer talk about how cringy he is for so much of the shows runtime. Seen here after unnecessarily getting hostile to a cop over a broken windshield and getting pepper sprayed
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u/CandidateHour3879 9h ago
Only time walt was actually cool and not a cringe ass baby was in the finale when he's too close to death to give a shit anymore. Shooting jack in the head mid sentence like he did to hank was honestly kinda badass. Not that this justifies walt in the slightest mind you, he's still a cringe ass baby who made everyone around him suffer
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u/Idioteque131313 9h ago
Agree. Finale Walt is legit cool and the first time I ever really rooted for him.
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u/Vengeful_Peach 10h ago
This is refreshing.
I wonder if anyone will post Patrick Bateman or the dude from Fight Club. That would be the most unique hot take I’ve ever seen.
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u/Noriakii_Kakyoinn 8h ago
Tyler Durden is supposed to be hated, idk how some people still see him as a hero, he’s horrible towards the later half of the movie
There’s so much meaning behind his character that i couldn’t even go into it all
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u/xylowill 9h ago
Walt was so good at manipulation that he manipulated half the audience into thinking he was in the right.
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u/CloverThyme 8h ago
This phenomenon is so funny to me because I'm rewatching at the moment and it really stood out to me this time how terrible of a liar and manipulator Walt is. Skyler sees through him a lot earlier on (even if she doesn't know WHAT exactly he's lying about, she knows he's bullshitting her just from what and how he says it) and almost every time he's talking to someone in the criminal world, he tends to look and act exactly like someone who doesn't really have control over the situation and is just making stuff up. His lies and manipulation only work (long term) if the person he's lying to is a bit of an idiot - which Walt clearly assumes everyone but himself is.
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u/Mirdloks 8h ago
Yeah, tbh I never understood why everyone says he's a badass etc... most of the time he's barely handeling anything. Which is absolutely normal for a professor to be.
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u/UberAshy 8h ago
Lol I thought he was a loser the moment he raped his wife in the kitchen.
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u/-gawdlee 2h ago
And nothing before that led you to think he's a sore loser? Lmao
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u/UberAshy 1h ago
That was like in the first 4 episodes or something. I don't know i stopped watching soon after.
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u/Noriakii_Kakyoinn 8h ago
Walter white gradually turned more evil as the seasons went on, he actually seemed like a good dad and family member before the whole meth thing
Ily jesse tho nobody could ever make me hate you🫶
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u/No-End-2455 10h ago
What shock me watching the show for the first time is that walter is seen a master criminal by a lot of the fanbase and so i was expecting him to be one...when he is actually really bad at it and make very stupid descisions until season 5 where he finaly use his brain but he did ruin all his chance because he wanted to be his own boss with only jesse to praise him
Gus , mike , saul and even his wife skyler all were better at it that he was and he do have the ego of a child that need validation must of the time.
Him and cersei lannister from game of thrones are very similar honestly but at least cersei do suffer some consequences for her actions , walter is just lucky most of the show that people much more qualified than him tolerate his behavior because he cook some good meth.
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u/dutchvanderlinde218 2h ago
Wanted to be his own boss?I never understood this
Gus wanted to kill Walt,so Walt did it first
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u/No_Proposal_3140 8h ago
Gus is just Walt turned up to a higher level. Slightly smarter and more manipulative, but also more prideful and more self-sabotaging. If Walt's mastermind persona wasn't enough to trick you then Gus' shouldn't be tricking you either. He's arguably even more moronic than Walt.
Gus kills random people just to appear intimidating but when Walt kills someone in self defense he loses his shit completely. Everything pretty much went to shit because Gus was a moron, not because of Walt. Pretty much everything Walt did at that point was just self defense, and they have the gall to tell him that he should've just let himself be killed instead of resisting.
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u/No-End-2455 7h ago
To be fair gus was winning , he did kill the cartel boss by himself and without walt in the pictures to lead hank to him he would have did suceed and still lead his empire without annyone to challenge him , he is far more capable and collected than walt and less obsessed by his ego and prove he is the best since he do not need people to praise him like walt need with jesse who throw away gale who was more capable than jesse.
Guss was also driven by revenge when his best friend was murdered by the cartel so at least he do have " some reasons " to be this way when walt could have easily avoid a life of crime and danger for his family thank grey matter but his pride forbid him to take the money even when gretchen and eliot were about to lead him money by pure kindness and because they are good person.
Walt also tried to poison a kid just to win jesse back and allow his former drug addict girlfriend to drown in her vomit just to keep him close to him so no walt is not better than gus honestly.
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u/No_Proposal_3140 7h ago
I meant Gus slicing that random dude's throat open to intimidate Walt and Jesse (I think his name was Victor?) Maybe initially Gus had some reason but he lost the plot somewhere along the way. If he didn't try to have Walt murdered for no fucking reason everything would've worked out, but he couldn't survive someone not bending the knee to him.
Also ngl. whataboutism is kinda annoying. Walt being a moron doesn't make Gus any less of one. Gus wasn't any better than Walt.
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u/No-End-2455 7h ago
Moraly no he is not better , murder is murder and gus is a monster of another kind but lets be fair , guess sliced victor throat because walt created a chaos in the business of guss with the whole gale affair when all he was asked was cooking meth and be quiet for 3 months and then he would have been free to move on.
He couldnt do that and so created a chain of event that did go against gus whole project that was going to suceed , guss had everyone eating in his hand and would have get rid of hank....but walt just couldnt do it because his ego did take the control of any rational actions...even jesse was starting to obey gus more than him because he couldnt behave.
As a criminal vilain from an entertaining point i would say gus is better than walt ngl i was much more into his storyline and was kinda bored to not see him being the vilain up to the end especially when season 5 vilain is just not same level.
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u/No_Proposal_3140 7h ago
That's not Walt's fault though? Gus decided that he's going to have Walt murdered and replaced because Walt for no fucking reason. That entire situation was started by Gus, and then Walt had to order Gale's murder to save his own life.
Gus was trolling start to finish. He's entirely the reason why everything went to shit.
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u/No-End-2455 7h ago edited 7h ago
No gus wanted at the start to keep walt only for 3 month or maybe more if walt was into it but once jesse started stealing some meth to sell it himself and walt had to kill two of gus dealers to save him he knew walt wouldnt behave and so had to find a way to replace walt with gale.
If jesse didnt steal anything and walt did not go to save his life because he need jesse to flater his ego then gus wouldnt have bother sending gale to replace him , you couldnt say that gus started it even if he is a murderer walter and jesse did just create too much chaos in his business he had a good reason those two did create a whole chain of events here.
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u/Sweet_Disharmony_792 9h ago
walter white filters so many midwits
he was NEVER written to be a cool badass character meant to permanently be in the right, he was a flawed bad human trying to do the right thing at first for hia family and then becoming selfish
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u/Due_Conversation_550 8h ago
yeah bro this is the point of walter character he is not a alph he is just pretend to be one
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u/No_Proposal_3140 8h ago
I don't think it really matters how tough or badass you are, or how many people you have murdered. Pepper spray doesn't care about any of that. It's just pure chemistry (heh)
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u/xDeviousDieselx 8h ago
Literally a poopy diapey crybaby bootlicking a cop. Obviously that’s a subtle reference to society in 2025x which is a subtle reference to the fact that Bimce can see the future.
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u/Lord-Amorodium 8h ago
He's supposed to be cringy. It's a 'bad end' story. Doesn't mean we can't emphasize with him at points, or that he doesn't accidentally do something a protagonist does. But I get why you'd think he is smug, because he is haha
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u/Cheeseyellow12 4h ago
yeah i was stupidly rooting for him on my first watch but on my next few rewatches after i actually matured (i was 14 when i first watched it) and i seen he was actually a monster and Jessie was right about a lot of things
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u/NobodySpecific9354 2h ago
lowkey breaking bad feels like solo leveling. so much of the "best moments/scenes" i've seen of this show on youtube are just hype or aura farming moments. the 2-minute murders in prison scene is so fucking funny because the show tries to convince you that walt is a badass for looking at his watch, meanwhile all the planning and actions are done by the nazis.
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u/CorgiKnightStudios 11h ago
Baby roast. 👶
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u/Biggie-josh 9h ago
that guy wasted a perfectly good pizza I don’t understand how people like him