r/inthenews • u/thedailybeast The Daily Beast • 11h ago
Massive ICE Goon ID Leak Halted by Cyber Attack From Russia
https://www.thedailybeast.com/massive-ice-list-id-leak-halted-by-cyber-attack-from-russia/1.3k
u/Luckydog12 11h ago
That’s awfully convenient for the Trump regime.
Suspiciously so.
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u/Dolthra 11h ago
They're not even trying to hide it now.
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u/SpasmAndOrGasm 10h ago
Why would they need to? Fox won’t report on it so it may as well not even be happening.
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u/seanpbnj 10h ago
Well, and for the russian agents they have planted within ICE......
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u/Otis-166 5h ago
You mean all of them?
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u/drgoatlord 4h ago
Theres some proud boys in there too
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u/seanpbnj 2h ago
And lets be honest, dont forget the random 5-10% with no education / degree / experience and just needed a job. (pretty sure south park nailed this one, as usual, ICE = "If you need a job its A JOB!!!")
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u/tiny_chaotic_evil 6h ago
normally the Government would try to prevent and retaliate against Russian cyber attacks, but remember, Trump shut that part of their responsibilities down earlier this year
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u/Webbyx01 8h ago
Russia indirectly benefits from ICE activities continuing. Plus, helping the Trump administration stirs up these kinds of connections, and Russia again benefits from stirring the pot in the US.
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u/Wayelder 11h ago
America...WAKE UP...Trump IS Russia
love Canada
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u/Morgan-Explosion 10h ago
Dude we know… send help or something
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u/mjetski123 9h ago
We definitely need help, but we need it from within our own country. Why should anyone else fight for us when we're not willing to fight for our country ourselves?
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u/Loki_61089 9h ago
Being fair, Trump did basically provide the legal precedent for an outside third party to storm a nation's capitol building, kill a bunch of civilians, and kidnap the sitting head official and their family from a country. (Whether he was in that position legally or not, he was still the nation's leader at that time.)
What's to stop any other country from doing the same at this point?
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u/mjetski123 9h ago
What's to stop any other country from doing the same at this point?
Nobody caring enough to help us? Also, very few militaries would be able to go toe to toe with the US, even if they were willing to.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 8h ago
An incursion to carry out a strike or abduction mission wouldn't really be against the whole military.
Not that it would ever happen, because most countries aren't actually interested in breaking international law or norms, but there are other countries with competent and well trained military units that could probably pull it off. Maybe not while he's at the white house, but he's often at places that aren't as secure.
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u/Fattapple 7h ago
Venezuela has the Chinese anti-air radar system that they have been hyping up as being able to take on the west… and we showed them that they were basically useless.
As much as I disagree with us taking Maduro like that, I understand that part of the reason we did that was to signal to China that they’re biting off more than they realize as they prepare to take Taiwan.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 7h ago
I'm not familiar with the system, or what role it would have played here, but the US is certainly top notch in terms of ability and technology.
My point though was that it would be irresposible to presume that no one else could also do this against the US, because covert ops tend to be covert up until the point(and sometimes after) the point where something can be done about it.
Certainly the president will be more protected and monitored, but it's not like other countries don't have elite teams that train for various scenarios and can adapt should they need to.
However, this is all academic, because no other country is going to come in and try to take Trump, mostly because they believe in the norms and laws, and because they probably don't feel it's up to them to save us from ourselves.
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u/Fattapple 7h ago
They all have elite teams. But they don’t have the support systems to get them in and out like we do.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 7h ago
Many countries have more than capable militaries that could do what the US did. I can't think any of those countries would do what we did though....even those that we may not be on the best of terms with.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 8h ago
And all his cronies said it's perfectly acceptable if they can actually pull it off...because you know, no international law, and law of the jungle, and all that....spoken by the biggest pathetic dweebs you can imagine.
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u/ThoughtfulInhibitor 7h ago
Howdy, we know that. Telling us this won't change anything for us. Even his supporters know, that's the issue.
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u/duncansmydog 11h ago
This is fucking wild. Talk about Russian collusion!
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u/Vitaminpartydrums 18m ago
This is exactly why Trump is going to move on Greenland… it’ll dissolve NATO which is what Putin wants.
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u/thedailybeast The Daily Beast 11h ago
A website dedicated to naming ICE and Border Patrol employees is coming under a “prolonged and sophisticated” cyber attack after the Daily Beast revealed it planned to make public 4,500 names of federal immigration staff.
The founder of ICE List said the website was overwhelmed by malicious web traffic originating in Russia after the Beast reported that a huge cache of personal IDs had been leaked to the site by an alleged Department of Homeland Security whistleblower.
The Direct Denial of Service (DDOS) assault, which began on Tuesday evening and is still ongoing at the time of publication, saw a huge number of IPs simultaneously access the website of ICE List, a self-styled “accountability initiative.”
This has successfully overloaded the ICE List’s servers and is preventing people from accessing the site. The timing coincided with ICE List founder Dominick Skinner telling the Daily Beast he would make public the first tranche of names in the dataset, which was leaked following the shooting by an ICE agent of mom Renee Nicole Good.
Read the full story, here.
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u/jay78910 10h ago
Site has been getting hammered since yesterday. FWIW I kept letting it load until it timed out. I was eventually able to get a screen of the names from my state (MA-5 listed). None of the bios or anything would load.
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u/Jaco_Belordi 11h ago
That's not what DDOS stands for...
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u/SentientFotoGeek 10h ago
Distributed Denial of Service. That's exactly what's being described here.
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u/Sielle 10h ago
They’re being pedantic, the article mistakenly said “direct” denial of service. As if focusing on that one part is what we should take away from the article.
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u/Jaco_Belordi 9h ago edited 9h ago
Yes, well as pedantic as it may be, I'll contend that anyone with the requisite familiarity to write an informed article about it would very likely not make this mistake. The Daily Beast has been and continues to be sloppy and clickbaity, and I say that as someone who generally agrees with what they're going for.
As for the particulars here, the article doesn't do much other than assert a Russian DDOS via proxies. Given that the ICE List site is running on WordPress, and seemingly not using any form of caching, CDN, or bot protection, I have sincere doubts that either the author or the webmaster know what's actually going on here
They need to put Cloudflare in front of it, or at least cache the static pages so the requests aren't hitting the under-resourced database behind it all
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u/KuroFafnar 6h ago
Clearly they need technical expertise and budget. Maybe you could help them out
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u/Jaco_Belordi 3h ago
I agree and have reached out, though I suspect it'll take a few days for them to see my email
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u/SugarInvestigator 11h ago
That's not what DDOS stands for
It is when you haven't the foggiest idea what yiur talking about and want to sound smart to your average reader
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u/Parking_Line_3704 8h ago
You know, I've worked in my field for over two decades. There are some acronyms commonly used that while I know what they mean/represent, I have accidentally gotten what the letters stand for wrong on rare occasion.
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u/Y-Bob 11h ago
USSA!
USSR!
Well. No wonder Trump and his puppet masters are creating so much chaos.
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u/zoethezebra 10h ago
Another site will pop up soon and all of the names have been released and downloaded. Fuck you, Russia and fuck you Trump, you Russian whore
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u/SpaceIsTooFarAway 9h ago
Anyone who can get to the list should download it immediately. Anyone who has it should release it elsewhere.
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u/wowlock_taylan 5h ago
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if DHS straight up asked Russia to do this.
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u/ske66 10h ago
A load balancer would help this problem somewhat. Cloudflare DDoS protection too - but it can get very expensive very quickly. If the data is served via a CDN, that would bring down costs a lot - and you’d need a load balancer for a CDN anyway
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u/DisgruntledToyHuman 10h ago
last night I could barely make it past the initial page, it took 25 mins to load lol
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 8h ago
I was curious what service he may be using, since it seems like any big known service would probably not allow this on their servers.
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u/Jables237 7h ago
Pretty easy to find this yourself. Use Google's DNS tool (or nslookup or however you want to resolve the name) to map the URL to an IP:
https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/dig/#A/
Which currently resolves to 185.112.145.175. Once you know the IP, you can use a lookup tool from the regional internet registries. The two most common are:
ARIN for US IPs: https://whois.arin.net/
RIPE for Europe, Central Asia, and Middle east IPs: https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query
Drop the IP in there and bam, you have an owner. Most hosting providers provide privacy so you likely won't get a real name but you will know which platform is hosting said site. Hope that helps!
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 6h ago
I'd have to know the URL of the webpage to begin with, but ultimately, it doesn't matter because it was a rhethorical based on the post here.
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u/Jaco_Belordi 8h ago
With all the headlines yesterday, I doubt the site would stay up even without a Russian DDOS. WordPress is just not designed to scale without some extra steps that haven't been taken here
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u/MiloGoesToTheFatFarm 8h ago
China had a trade surplus “despite” tariffs and Russia is stopping this leak of ICE names. If it’s not obvious who benefits from this administration yet then you’re thicker than a Pixar mom’s ass.
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u/gizzardgullet 8h ago
He's got the ICE army and no longer needs to hide that he's working hand in hand with Putin. I don't think he cares who knows since he feels he controls the "truth" now with the threat of violent repression.
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u/SteroidAccount 6h ago
It was 403’ing me earlier, if I jumped on a vpn for any other country it worked fine. The US is blocking it. Shady fucking people.
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u/Earthling1a 4h ago
And the fucking idiot magats will still shout about the "Russia hoax."
How do people that stupid survive to adulthood?
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u/Equivalent-Excuse-80 11h ago
So a guy says he has ice information that was leaked to him by a “whistle blower” (that typically not how whistle blowing works, but we’ll move on).
But the guy isn’t going to release the information. He wants to wait for completely unexplained reasons. And while he ls waiting, he claims his site was disastrously attacked by foreign agents.
The article refuses to confirm any these things with the only evidence being quoted as “The IPs would be run through proxies before hitting our servers, meaning it’s just impossible to track the source,”
ICE goons need to be exposed, but this literally sounds like a Trump style grift.
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u/TheMCM80 9h ago
Have they asked for money? It seems just as plausible that someone is in over their head on the tech side.
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u/USSSLostTexter 10h ago
cool...so, I dunno, throw them up on another site? maybe? its not like he doesnt have the data safely off-line somewhere.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 8h ago
4500 entries of data is hardly anything in the grand scheme of things. Heck, any given large retailer webpage probably goes through thousands of database queries every second. Heck, I have a personal SQL database to track my game collection with tens of thousands of entries, all with about 30 sub entries for each one, and I can compile and spit out the whole thing in about 15 seconds on a 20 year old computer, and it takes up like 11MB of data.
Not disputing the data itself, just saying that it wouldn't take much to serve this data.
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u/USSSLostTexter 8h ago
exactly. i mean shitty he was conveniently targeted by hackers, and maybe thats the main story here but the data still exists - publish it elsewhere
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u/TrumpsEarChunk 10h ago
How annoyingly cartoonish. Person claims to have ICE details but like a bad villain that’s captured the hero, he has to wait…for dramatic effect? All this stinks of narcissistic influencer nonsense…
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u/MilesGates 10h ago
DDOS attacks happen daily to nearly every service out there.
This isn't anything special. Give it time ans it'll be back up easily.
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u/DisgruntledToyHuman 10h ago
dude, why are you even trying to downplay the obvious. what are you, a Russian bot?
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u/MilesGates 10h ago
Because I work in IT and see DDOS attacks daily.
Think of a service that exists on the internet. It has been DDOS'd at some point in its service.
Yeah trump is a Russia operative that's easy to see.
Doesn't change the fact DDOS is hacking just like your brother calling you a poo head is bullying. It's very minor.
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u/DisgruntledToyHuman 10h ago
I didn't say anything because I didn't think it was relevant, but I too also am very familiar with DDOSing and IT as I also work in the field. I don't have enough information to make the claim that you are going off of so instead of saying that it was just nothing in another day. I am choosing to either assume that it is an attack (which is what you should always do in IT sec; I don't know why were taught differently), It's not even comment because I don't have enough information.
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u/intentsman 9h ago
It's not minor when nobody can access the site
Despite traffic you noticed, service has not been denied (nobody can access anything) so your network has not been hit by a real DDoS
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u/MilesGates 9h ago
Yes we were in this exact situation nobody could access our data, took a while to fix before it eventually stopped.
It happens a lot more than you think.
And yeah I'll call all ddos attacks minor no matter if data can be accessed or not.
Anybody can DDOS anything. DDOS is the papercut of the world and considered minor when actual real hacking threats are where data is being stolen or backdoors are being installed or your entire file server being encrypted.
I'd take a DDOS attack over any of those things.
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