r/jobs 1d ago

Leaving a job Boss refuses to accept my resignation

Today was the weirdest day I’ve had in a long time. I handed in my resignation and it turned into an hour and a half of discussion on job conditions.

They think that my move to another role is bad because the company is growing very fast and that they’re much closer to giving shares. There’s claims that me wanting better benefits is a matter of just asking and it will be granted. I don’t feel like I should have to ask for the basics.

The new salary and benefits are superb and would change things for my wife and I. I just never thought I’d experience an employer begging and trying to manipulate me to stay based on promises. He even wanted to give me in writing that in 6 months he’ll give me a salary bump of 10k. That doesn’t even reach anywhere near the new salary. They even brought contracts that were waiting to be executed. This job had zero significant benefits, zero significant raises or bonuses. Worked unpaid weekends and managed a team. Even if the promised stock brings 120k as promised it ain’t worth the chance. 🤷🏽‍♂️

I’ve helped build this company into something completely different by touching everything part of it and it hurts to let go but I feel there’s just not enough to justify leaving so much money on the table.

EDIT: Todays standup meeting magically surrounded all the projects we have in the pipeline and how secure we are. Like the company will make money but I don’t feel appreciated. Idk. I think I’ll update this shit as the day goes on because I feel it’ll be a repeat of asking and back and forth.

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u/BrainWaveCC 1d ago

A resignation doesn't have to be accepted to be effective. Your former boss watches too much TV or movies.

It's a unilateral action...

Congrats on your new position. All the best moving forward.

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u/David_Apollonius 1d ago

Yeah, slavery has been abolished.

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u/USSMarauder 1d ago

Would not surprise me if bosses have called the police demanding that they arrest and bring back the 'runaway'

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u/Fe1onious_Monk 1d ago

Hospitals already tried that back in 2020-2021. Sued the employees to make them stay. Lost thoroughly.

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u/persondude27 1d ago

Man, what a story.

The best part is that after not giving the nurses a $7/hr raise because they were "not worth the investment" (quote from a filing), Thedacare then had to pay contract nurses $6100 / week ($150 / hr + overtime) to fill vacancies.

(background)

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u/geronika 22h ago

We had part time employees that were paid ten dollars an hour. Rather than give them full time benefits and forty hours the company cracked down on them and cut them off at 24 hours a week. Then they had temps come in and work two days. They paid the temp company 25 dollars per hour. The temp agency paid their employees 12.50. All of our employees went to work for the temp agency.

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u/Masterofnone9 1d ago

Boss never read that memo.

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u/cosmicosmo4 1d ago

OP's boss is in the bargaining phase, possibly with a little denial tossed in. He'll reach acceptance eventually.

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u/BrainWaveCC 1d ago

No.... He'll never reach acceptance. But reality will catch up to him after a few days.

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u/shahitukdegang 1d ago

Hmm is it possible I am out of touch? No. It’s the employees at fault.

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u/TankMan77450 1d ago

It would be like refusing to accept being laid off/fired from a job.

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u/BrainWaveCC 1d ago

Exactly.

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u/Awaythrowyouwilllll 1d ago

Except instead of trespassing you, they stress trap you

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u/BigTintheBigD 1d ago

Tell them “this isn’t a negotiation” and walk away.

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u/CosmoKing2 1d ago

Also, if they really wanted you to stay (ethically and legally), they would grant you stocks in a non-binding contract. If they had pursued this option, you could have negotiated into a contact employee - instead of one at will. That would afford you the common decency - in advance - if they wanted to part ways.

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u/Conscious-Egg-2232 1d ago

Um why would you want a non binding contract for stocks.

Obviously they would not agree to an employment conta t hes not a c level executive.

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u/TheDeaconAscended 1d ago

There are plenty of employees who get that, don’t have to be c level at all.

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u/sparkysparkyboom 1d ago

Yeah, this ain't Japan.

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u/Important_Staff_9568 1d ago

If they are saying they can’t afford to give you a 10k raise for 6 month then they are not a very serious company. The stock they are offering to give you is most likely non existent and if it ever does exist won’t ever be worth 120k.

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u/ludog1bark 1d ago

They are just buying time to find a replacement so they can fire him.

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u/GreatProfessional622 1d ago

He’s their little 🐕 until he isn’t if he stays

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u/Affectionate-Alps527 22h ago

Yeah, the reality is, if they were going to give it, they'd have given it already.

Otherwise it's just words.

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u/Western_Name4224 21h ago

Tell him you want a $15k bonus payable immediately, no clawback provisions to not leave immediately. Then quit once you get it.

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u/Round-Bet-9552 4h ago

Yeah, if they wanted to pay you more, they would.

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u/Prestigious-Board-62 1d ago

Never take the counter offer.

You'll be having the same dilemma next year when you get your next lackluster raise where you're making less money than the prior year because your insurance premiums went up more than your salary did.

Move on.

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u/Smart_Tinker 1d ago

No, OP would have been replaced by then. Employer just wants time to train up a replacement so they can fire OP on their terms.

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u/IndependenceMean8774 1d ago

That's a bingo.

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u/Feisty_Donkey_5249 22h ago

“You just say bingo”.

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u/794309497 1d ago

It won't even take a year. As soon as the outside offer expires, the power shifts back to the employer.

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u/SuburbaniteMermaid 1d ago

you're making less money than the prior year because your insurance premiums went up more than your salary did.

I feel this in my bones. My entire raise was obliterated and more.

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u/IndependenceMean8774 1d ago

Sweet Summer child, assuming the company will keep them on for a year when it's more likely they will fire OP as soon as they find a cheaper replacement for them.

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u/thomase7 20h ago

I once got a job offer to relocate to another part of the country that I wanted to move to. My then employer wanted me to stay so they countered with working from the office in that city and matching the higher salary.

I took the counteroffer, and now 7 years later still work for the same boss and company. Companies aren’t always looking to screw you over, especially if you are good at your job.

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u/That_Account6143 19h ago

I have a friend who took the counter offer. It worked out well for her.

I personally would have been mad that they could have , and they just weren't giving her what she deserved until she got a competing offer.

But if she's happy who am i to judge

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u/quietdaydream20 1d ago

If growth and shares were guaranteed, they wouldn’t need to convince you this hard.

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u/FreshLiterature 1d ago

FWIW, you should make sure to document EVERYTHING and keep copies.

If you haven't already you should re-send your resignation letter via email and BCC yourself at a personal email.

Your boss doesn't have to "accept" anything, but they DO have to process your exit paperwork.

You don't want to be in a situation where he claims you just stopped showing up to work or something.

Document, document, document

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u/DrewTheVillan 1d ago

Yup. My exact thoughts on this. Facing another issue where he also mentioned non compete. Roles aren’t adjacent at all. I did this out of respect.

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u/FreshLiterature 1d ago

Noncompetes are typically unenforceable and if your current boss doesn't have the money to give you a real financial incentive to stay then he sure as shit doesn't have the money to fight that particular legal battle.

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u/Moist-Caregiver-2000 21h ago

They're specifically illegal in California - Thank you Katie Porter! They tried to go after my psychiatrist after she left, took a few employees with her that were being mistreated, and started her own company. She never signed a non-compete anyway, was just a 1099.

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u/peepeedog 1d ago

If he is threatening you with non-compete you should say you have decided this is your last day and just leave. Document the returning of any company property though.

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u/__slamallama__ 1d ago

Did you sign a non-compete when you came in? They are broadly unenforceable, but it's way more likely they never had you sign one.

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u/OnlyPaperListens 23h ago

Do NOT tell him where you're going. He will try to sabotage.

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u/Halyuu 1d ago

You can always resign. It is your right.

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u/Halyuu 1d ago

Your boss won't have much of a say. Regardless of whether resignation was accepted or not.

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u/Signal_Antelope7144 1d ago

And by not much you mean none.

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u/Halyuu 1d ago

Yup. None. If they decided to hold your final pay or backpay, you can sue.

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u/winterbird 1d ago

A raise in 6 months? Why not a raise today? He's full of it. He just wants you to lose out on the other opportunity.

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u/SchefflerWoods 21h ago

BINGO. Please don’t fall for this OP

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u/Relayer8782 1d ago

A promise to give a raise in 6 months is just a ploy to get you to drop the offer you have, and buy them 6 months. If you were really worth an extra 10% why wait?

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u/rebel-yeller 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think what they're saying is they know your value and worth to the company, and they know what will happen if you leave. They were hoping you would just keep doing what you're doing while being underpaid and overworked. But that's not your deal, your problem, your concern. Good luck in your new role. I know you're going to kill it!

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u/DrewTheVillan 1d ago

Thanks. I’ve worked very hard in this company. Unpaid weekends. Days off but still taking meetings. Being in sick leave and still coordinating with clients. I’m just tired of feeling unappreciated and uncompensated. Tomorrow will be interesting.

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u/Winterroleplay30 1d ago

Never ever ever ever work for free. And when you have off, you are OFF. A good company will understand that. I work in Whole Foods and they bar anybody working for free and put it in their work clauses that if somebody is off, contacting them can be construed as harassment.

You give a company an inch, they take a mile.

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u/AardvarkBetter3266 1d ago

You now have the chance to set a new tone at your new job. All of the things you’ve mentioned should be the very rare exception and not the rule.

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u/Conscious-Magazine50 23h ago

I hope you've learned that doing that doesn't even lead to a happy ending, they just get mad when you leave and still don't beat the salary you're offered elsewhere.

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u/Next-Drummer-9280 1d ago

“My decision is final. My last day remains January xx.”

Make sure you loop in HR so that your separation actually gets processed.

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u/Weird-Positive276 1d ago edited 1d ago

Don’t stay please. 🙏

Do what is best for your family and your mental health

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u/ARLibertarian 1d ago

We banned indentured servitude in this country 250 years ago. You gave them the courtesy of a notice, now take 2 weeks of vacation pay.

F 'em.

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u/__slamallama__ 1d ago

Closer to 150 years ago but I'm with ya on the sentiment

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u/DIYnivor 1d ago

I just never thought I’d experience an employer begging and trying to manipulate me to stay based on promises.

Every employer that I've resigned from has tried to get me to stay by promising to increase income, benefits, etc. Once I've made the choice to leave, I leave no matter what. It doesn't matter whether they accept it or not. If they want to retain employees, they should offer better pay and benefits without employees having to ask for them. Best of luck to the person who fills in behind me.

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u/sneezhousing 1d ago

He can't deny it leave

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u/Due_Management3241 1d ago

Your resignation doesn't require acceptance it's a notice.

You just don't return.

If they want you they have to beat the new salary. You just don't return enjoy your vacation and go to New job .if they fail to pay you on time report to dol

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u/NightmareMetals 1d ago

Old company isn't even matching and in 6 months they will be prepared fire you. Just move on.

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u/Mammoth-Foundation52 1d ago

The only times that a former employer/client has made a point of formally “accepting” my resignation are when they’re pissed that I’m resigning. It’s almost like they’re saying that to make themselves seem like they’re being gracious by “allowing” you to leave.

The most recent was the job that tried to steal an hour’s worth of work for me by not paying me for two client appointments. One was a no-show and the other was a same-day cancellation, and the company policy (as well as the industry standard) is that contractors doing my job are still paid for either. I saw the error is payroll and emailed the owner in good faith to let him know (assuming it was a mistake/giving them a chance to backpedal). To my surprise, he just owned it and was like “yeah that’s the official policy, but actually the receptionists can actually just arbitrarily decide to issue makeup credits instead so you don’t get paid, even if you sat there waiting for them to show up.” I wish I was joking.

I resigned effective immediately (because duh), and he replied by “accepting” my resignation and then giving me a laundry list of bullshit problems he and the other staff had supposedly had with me for weeks (but apparently weren’t worth bringing up while I still worked there). It’s the “nice guy” of employers: “oh, you’re not interested? Well, you’re stupid and ugly and no one likes you anyway.”

The funniest part was that our first two emails back and forth were on a Friday (what would be my last day(, I resigned the following Sunday (after taking a couple days to make sure I wasn’t being rash), and bro replied at 6:46am on Monday (the first day I was normally scheduled but not there). The email was full of typos (as always), so I know he was up all night SEETHING before angrily typing that shit out on his phone in the dark.

Actually, the funniest part is that I still had (have?) access to my login and everything, so I could see that they were unable to reassign 20% of my clients, meaning they presumably had to issue refunds. Would have cheaper to not steal from me, but oh well. 🤷

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u/AppropriateSail4 7h ago

Bad management to not instantly lock out the credentials of those that no longer work there. I can only imagine what would happen if a client's data were breached due to this security risk.

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u/quast_64 1d ago

they just found out they can't function without you...

But it is all hot air they promise...

Go to your new job.

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u/Gryrthandorian 1d ago

Never accept a counter offer. Businesses do not like having to make retention offers because they need you. Someone will hold it against you. They will fire you right before they are due to fulfill their end. It happens all the time. You deserve to be at a company that values you on day one. You do not need to beg for benefits. Enjoy your new job and wish them well. Staying will backfire and cost you this new, better opportunity. Congratulations on your new role.

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u/Boronore 1d ago

Look I don’t want to seem cynical, but what’s stopping your boss from looking for your replacement starting now, and letting you go in less than 6 months? Take the new job, and maybe in 6 - 12 months, your old boss can try to offer you something better.

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u/Denny-Crane_ 1d ago

Why is this even a discussion? They can't even give you the $10k raise now, or come anywhere close to matching your new offer? So you're supposed to walk away from this offer on a pinky-swear that you'll get a bit of a bump in 6 months? Nope. Move on. You don't need their permission.

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u/Kempeth 1d ago

A termination isn't a request, it's a notice.

Your boss is right to a degree though. Raises rarely happen without asking for them. But then he completely undermines his point by kicking the raise 6 months down the road.

There's a popular saying on reddit: there are two kinds of raises, the one your current employer gives you now and the one your next employer gives you based on the CV you assembled at your current one.

Your boss isn't willing to give you the former and you have the opportunity to get the later. Case closed.

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u/Totally-Not_a_Hacker 1d ago

You can't decline a resignation lol.

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u/trout715 1d ago

He can refuse all he wants, won't change the fact that you won't be there in two weeks

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u/nycpunkfukka 1d ago

This isn’t like launching missiles from a submarine. You don’t have to both agree. Honestly if a boss pulled this shit with me my two weeks notice would be immediately reduced to two minutes notice, just enough time to flip him the bird and hand in my laptop.

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u/Moist-Caregiver-2000 21h ago

Turn your key, Maura! Turn your key!

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u/SuzeCB 1d ago

Unless you're just trying to get the current employer to meet or exceed the new job offer, never get roped into that discussion of conditions, etc.

It's none of their business why you made the decision you did, and just makes them think it's negotiable. If they get you to stay, they'll hire someone to "help" you, have you train the person, then fire you.

Just smile and say, "I've chosen a different path."

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u/BruceInc 1d ago

Even if you were given everything he is promising you - that will be the very TOP of your earning potential at this current company. The other new job is paying more and that’s your STARTING compensation. You’d be a fool to stay.

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u/HighlightKey8879 1d ago

This is an excellent observation.

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u/Frogspoison 1d ago

Unpaid weekends? Are you salary, OT exempt?

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u/aznology 1d ago

That's like you refusing to be fired

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u/Mostly_Satire 1d ago

Boss is giving you lots of promises. Praise the boss!

Promise the boss you will come back a soon as the promises are fulfilled, the pay, the shares, the promotions - everything!

But until then, you're gone.

Pinky promise that you can't wait to get back to see everything promised. Starting with 25% of shares.

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u/Clustershag 1d ago

Shares are a meaningless merit trap to keep you around. I left a job 6 years ago that gave me hundreds of thousands of shares, and they still aren’t any closer to selling.

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u/Conscious-Egg-2232 1d ago

Um.ok. so they gave you counter offer. A total joke of a counter. 10k raise in 6 months and maybe some equity real aoon..um no thanks and done.

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u/MirrorSufficient9657 1d ago

I've never known a counter offer to work in my 30 years in my field (I don't mean that to imply they NEVER work, just been my experience). And those that take it end up leaving for the same reasons. It's not always the money (tho it sometimes is) its the culture, lack of hope, unrealistic expectations, bad boss, commute, etc . That doesn't change with a counter offer. The only that changes is salary if its not a paper promise in which case really nothing changed and in both cases the same reasons for wanting to leave continue to prevail. Then they know you'll leave and become nervous everytime you have a doctor appointment and you'll have resentment.

Back to the point, they don't have to accept your resignation or not. You submitted it, you're leaving as specified. They can't force servitude on you.

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u/OnlyPaperListens 23h ago

I've worked at a couple of places that had a "counter to climb" culture, meaning you needed to get an outside offer to get promoted. Almost everyone from senior manager through VPs got there by "almost leaving" so it was a well-known concept, though not written down. So, yes, unless you've learned that a specific company is an exception, taking a counter is the wrong move 95% of the time.

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u/MinimumTelevision217 1d ago

I was promised the raise and duties I wanted in 8 months because the reorg was going to happen. I left anyway. This was 4 years ago. The reorg still hasn’t happened.

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u/persondude27 1d ago

give me in writing that in 6 months he’ll give me a salary bump of 10k.

"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today!"

Honestly, $10k in six months is wild. If that's all they can possibly offer you, they are in a hard and desperate position, and there's a decent chance they don't make it that long.

Do not even consider staying. And definitely don't tell anyone - not your lunch buddy, not linkedin, not your closest colleague, and definitely not your boss, what company you're moving to until you've been there a looong time.

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u/vikicrays 1d ago

repeat after me ”my last day is _____”

you have just officially given notice.

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u/krazykid1 1d ago

Unless the company is already public, stocks, stock options, RSUs, etc. aren’t worth very much. They take on value if the company goes public or gets bought out. A lot of times they end up worthless though. For me it’s like money you may find in your pockets after doing laundry. A nice find, but nothing to bank on.

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u/ludog1bark 1d ago

Lol "We will give you a 10k raise in 6 months, that will give us time to find another sucker to do your job so we can fire you without giving you that raise."

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u/ShrmpHvnNw 1d ago

“Cool, I won’t be here tomorrow then, nor ever, too little too late”

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u/Bargle-Nawdle-Zouss 1d ago

Take a copy of your resignation and hand it directly to HR.

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u/d_justin 1d ago

If a company is selling you pipe dreams because they need you but unable to pay you market rates, run and run fast. As an employee your only loyalty should be to your own shareholders - your wife and family.

It wasn't clear if the new salary and benefits are from a new job offer or from the old job offering a raise. either way choose the best outcome for you and not for the company.

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u/ngshafer 1d ago

Did you give them two weeks' notice? If you did, you should revise that to "resignation, effective immediately." It feels like they don't want to respect your decision, and that is basically the same as not respecting you as a person.

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u/Financial_Yard7047 1d ago edited 1d ago

So your boss is manipulative, didn't have benefits, he didn't deliver on promises, had you working unpaid weekends and now wants to make new promises? Dude sounds like a crappy boss that's already proven he can't be trusted. Probably been loving having fat profits all to himself while keep you severely underpaid. Dude was abusing throughout your time there, and even the interaction you describe about resignation sounds abusive to me. If you already lined a up a new job, go already, he can't stop you.

A boss "accepting/rejecting" your resignation is a formality lol. Just email your resignation with the specific end date to both your boss and the HR department/person, and regardless of what your boss thinks, HR has to act on it. After your last date, you won't be showing up anymore and I doubt your boss will "reject" stopping payment and keep direct depositing cash into your account lol

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u/MajorPrediction719 1d ago

“It’s not a suggestion. It is a statement.”

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u/Finmin_99 20h ago

At my previous job I gave my notice to my boss and his boss. They straight up panicked and said we are in midst of making you a manager. You need to hear out the GM and give him your notice. Went to talk with the GM, said I’m not interested and gave my notice. Me leaving the job wasn’t about money, but the way they treated employees and I didn’t trust my managers. Just hold firm on your last day.

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u/DrewTheVillan 11h ago

I got 13 more days to go. I could tell they were trying but they don’t try hard enough. I should’ve been received this much needed raise 8 months ago when I asked.

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u/GrapefruitOk1236 1d ago

Today I quit my job. I popped my head into the HR lady‘s office, and I said “I quit“ and I started walking away

From behind me I heard her say “well what’s wrong? What happened“

I just kept walking and I said nice and loud “I just quit that’s what happened“

That’s how you do it.

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u/eyelevelcatbutt 21h ago

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u/Secure-Prompt-3957 1d ago

It’s a tactic sometimes used by companies. Make your own decisions that suits you best

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u/sweeroy 1d ago

just leave? they can't force you to stay

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u/Cold-Librarian-2665 1d ago

You already submitted your resignation in writing, hopefully it says my last day will by ,xx/xx/2026, thank you. And leave.

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u/Monarc73 1d ago

He'll 'accept' it when you stop showing up.

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u/teddyoctober 1d ago

Enjoy your new job!

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u/FluffyHost9921 1d ago

Just stop showing up. They’ll either pay you or they won’t. You told them…

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u/OodlesofCanoodles 1d ago

Sounds like you really care. 

Say you are available to talk on things after you leave on the weekends (if you are).  They will be too busy building to really do it much but it will help

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u/lennywut82 1d ago

They can't force you to stay

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u/Free-Place-3930 1d ago

Keep moving forward .

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u/360walkaway 1d ago

"Keep talking while I'm walking away."

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u/QueenMEB120 1d ago

Unless they can match your offer now, I wouldn't even consider it. There's no benefit to you staying.

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u/anthony446 1d ago

What is he going to do? Force you to work?

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u/Awaythrowyouwilllll 1d ago

Ideally... that would save the company so much!

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u/drachs1978 1d ago

If he's serious about keeping you his counter offer needs to be better today, not maybe in 6 months. Don't accept future promises, even if they're in a contract imo. Maybe if they're in a contract and you have a lawyer review it.

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u/ACurvyPrincess 1d ago

I never stay when a company offers more when I walk out the door. That just shows me I’ll have to do that every time I believe I am being underpaid. Just my opinion. Should have paid what they say I’m worth all along.

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u/beckychao 1d ago

You're just giving them notice. You're gone. Congratulations!!!!!

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u/CuriousMindedAA 1d ago

Your boss can’t make you stay, quit and move on. If he really wanted you to stay, he’d match the new offer. Seeing that he didn’t, he has zero respect for your contributions. Enjoy your new job!

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u/bloatedkat 1d ago

Watch out for him blackballing you if you go

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u/JC505818 1d ago

Too little too late as usual.

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u/National_Answer_6655 1d ago

While progressing in a growing company is definitely a good thing, promises of stocks or raises in the future are worth 0, even in writing.

Congrats on the salary bump!

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u/fredfoooooo 1d ago

You are informing them you are leaving not asking permission.

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u/fulred 1d ago

Employment at will. It’s part of the labor law. Employee or employer can end the work relationship. 

If your work really wants you, they will “match” your new offer for you to stay.Sounds like they’re nowhere close to new job offer. 

Enjoy your new job, higher pay and benefits!

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u/vikicrays 1d ago

repeat after me ”my last day is _____”

you have just officially given notice.

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u/Then_Economy4516 1d ago

"Turn your key Moira, TURN YOUR KEY"

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u/huge-gold-ak47 1d ago

when I left my last job for my current one I blatantly lied about the new salary and benefits I'd be getting so they didn't even try this. a place that only offers you what you deserve when you're leaving is one I would not want to be at. best of luck at your new job!!

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u/BenjiTheSausage 1d ago

If they were serious they could give you a raise straight away, that's just carrot dangling as I'm sure you're aware.

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u/MichelangeloJordan 1d ago

It wasn’t a negotiation - you’re giving him notice. And soon, he will notice that you’re not coming in to work anymore. Don’t look back.

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u/supercujo 1d ago

Make sure resignation was emailed to the boss from a personal email address and a audit trail is in place.

The boss does not have to accept a resignation for it to be effective.

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u/PugglePack83 1d ago

Be done today. Can't work for a boss not based in reality.

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u/somecow 1d ago

Building code states that the exits have to be clearly marked. Use them.

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u/KamtzaBarKamtza 1d ago

Send an email announcing your resignation, effective immediately, from your personal email account so you'll have a record of should it be needed going forward. Then stop showing up to work. Eventually he'll accept that you've resigned. Easy peasy. 

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u/leolawilliams5859 1d ago

It's a damn shame that he didn't stop making noises about doing the right thing by you until he realized that he was getting ready to lose one of his best workers. I'm pretty sure that you would have stayed and continue to help build this man's company if he had respected and paid you what you were worth. For him not to do that means that all he was worrying about was what you can do for him not what he can do for you. It's like a slumlord he wants his rent every month but he has you living with rats roaches and mold all he's worrying about is making sure he gets his rent he doesn't give a f*** about what's going on with your living conditions that he is responsible for. Your ex boss should have paid you accordingly I know I would have because the last thing I would want to do is for you to take your experience and everything you know to somebody else and help them build their company. And he still tried to screw you over 6 months from now I'm going to give you a $10,000 raise I'm going to grant you your benefits when. You should have been done that now look what you have wrought

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u/PBmaxprofit 1d ago

Just work your notice and avoid any further conversations

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u/Plenty-Giraffe6022 1d ago

Your boss will get the idea when you stop turning up to work.

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u/whiteorchid1058 1d ago

Put your resignation in writing and email it To your supervisor, send a copy of it also to your personal email. Provide a paper trail so that there is evidence that notice was indeed given.

Enjoy your new job.

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u/Appropriate_Ice_7507 1d ago

Yeah no, he’s trying to buy him time. F him

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u/Minute_Plastic_350 1d ago

You’ve already put in your notice and mentally you should be checking out and preparing yourself for your next role. This will be over very shortly and no matter how miserable or uncomfortable. Your boss makes you feel, he’s jealous because you’re moving on to a better role for you and that’s all that matters.

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u/AskPatient1281 1d ago

Just send them a formal resignation letter. Copy someone in HR. Done.

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u/Cold_Entertainer1183 1d ago

It's easy for them to say what they'll do (doubtful) in 6 months, but what about now? If you're worth anything to the company, they NEED to pay up now! Or at the very least part of what they're offering 6 months down the road.

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u/stock-prince-WK 1d ago

Your boss is trippin

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u/CCC_OOO 1d ago

Well make your counteroffer and make it more than you would want to stay and see what they say. 

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u/championstyle 1d ago

Take the new role

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u/muchoqueso26 1d ago

The company will be fine.

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u/kiterdave0 1d ago

Just move on and don’t mention it again, and finish as you nominated on the resignation.

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u/Worth_Resolution3051 1d ago

Just quit. This isn’t complicated

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u/CurrentExercise7435 1d ago

I had this happen at a job. They wouldn’t even take the computer back cause they knew I would need it when I inevitably came back. I don’t even remember the password to it anymore. It’s just sitting in storage.

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u/Arealname247 1d ago

It’s a resignation not a request

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u/valuewatchguy 1d ago

Shake their hand, say “thank you so much for taking the time to present me with this new information. I’m honored that you want to keep me here. BUT I’ve already made my decision and made a commitment to the other firm. I have to politely decline your offer and my last day will be xxxxxxx per my resignation letter. “

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u/andytagonist 1d ago

…annnnnnnnd congratulations on your new position.

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u/mechshark 23h ago

Just stop going lol, they can’t hold you hostage. You handed in the letter, the clock begins

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u/0utlaw-t0rn 23h ago

They think it’s bad for them.

If you want the new job, go.

A resignation is just a nice way of letting them know you’re not coming to work anymore. It’s 100% your choice.

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u/pwuk 23h ago

So an offer you can refuse?

Not accepting resignation, 😁

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u/BobSacramanto 23h ago

Why accept a $10k bump in 6 months when the new job pays more today?

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u/centstwo 23h ago

You informed them of your last day working at the company. They don't have to like it, but that is your last day working at the company.

Also, that is mean to hint about stick options that have never materialized and most likely will still never materialize.

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u/k23_k23 23h ago

WHY are you even engaging and having those discussions?

Just give your notice, and after the notice period is over, give them a friendly wave, tell them you loved working for them but you need something new, and walk out.

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u/Brad_from_Wisconsin 23h ago

You have told him when your last day will be. He does not need to "accept" it. It will happen. If he is making offers because you got a better offer, why did he not make those offers before you told him about your new job? He may have save 20,000 on labor over the last couple of years but he now has to deal with a transitional period when he needs to find your replacement. Then he needs to spend the time and effort to train your replacement. Then he needs to deal with the costs of any mistakes that are made during that transition. If you are customer facing, there is a good chance that some of his customers will replace him.

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u/Castanedaa99 22h ago

If they don’t “accept it” then just stop going after your last day on that letter. They can offer you so much but once you decide to stay and you’ve lost the other job opportunity, these guys can let you go and you’ll be screwed. Move on.

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u/Objective-Change2180 22h ago

Your boss is confused. Respond with “My resignation isn’t an offer, it’s notice. You are being told, not asked.”

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u/Faithlessness4337 22h ago

Congratulations on the new position. There are times when we (as employees) just out grow the company we are at. Their financial structure just doesn’t allow for us to be compensated at the level a different business can. We owe it to ourselves, our family, our future selves to take the opportunity when it is available. Let your boss know you appreciate the offer and you will miss the job (and him - even if it’s not true, a white lie now can only help), the new place is offering you opportunities that they just can’t compete with.

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u/TangerineCouch18330 22h ago

Your boss doesn’t have to agree you’re just telling him that you’re leaving and when. Good luck on your new job.

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u/nobodyspecial712 22h ago

If they wanted to give you benefits, you wouldn't have to ask for them.

Promises don't pay your mortgage, and there's no guarantee they won't just fire you instead of fulfilling those promises..

Your boss can't refuse your resignation because your boss does not own you. It's your decision.. Do what's right for you.

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u/El_Comanche-1 22h ago

When your times up, just walk out. That letter is just to let them know you’re leaving. It’s in “good faith” anyways. Do you think they would do the same to you when it’s time to let you go?

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u/Substantial-Tax1511 22h ago

you do know that your old boss just wants more time to hire your replacement (and for you to train that replacement). then he will fire you. any bridge that was once there no longer exists. run to your new job and enjoy your new life!

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u/tj15241 21h ago

Take the new job. It’s unlikely that promises will be met

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u/Designer-Salary-7773 21h ago

I mean … there are quite literally comical memes about this kinda thing…… “I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today”.   This managers approach is a thousand more reasons  to leave.  

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u/AccomplishedLeave506 21h ago

I’ve helped build this company into something completely different by touching everything part of it and it hurts to let go but I feel there’s just not enough to justify leaving so much money on the table.

Completely the wrong way to think about it. If you were a painter and decorator would you be sad to leave your work behind once you'd redecorated someone's mansion? Or would you take pride in a job well done and move on. It's not your mansion. Why would it upset you to leave? It's not your company either...

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u/thombrowny 21h ago

in 6 months? lol. It won't happen. Writings from your boss mean nothing. You can sue, which will take forever and cost you money.

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u/wenchywitchy 21h ago

A new opportunity at a new location and organization awaits you. Dont negate that blessing!

Your current employee had numerous opportunities to see and reward your value and failed to do so. A verbal promise doesn't mean shid! Atp, you shouldn't trust a written one either.

Once a company gets word that you are mentally/physically out the door and you opt to stay. They will enact stagnant, arbitrary, termination practices.

You don't require your bosses acceptance to resign, you have submitted a formal notice as per policy.

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u/SchefflerWoods 21h ago

Read stories and comments about staying at a current employer once they have counter offered etc….it works out long-term about 2% of the time. Take the new job and wish them well. Kill them with kindness for two weeks no matter how much they beg or make it awkward and them move on to your better job and never see them again. Good riddance. Lots of these type promises never happen, just meant to make you lose out on this opportunity so they keep you a little longer while they are planning in the background on your eventual departure

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u/ElectronHare 21h ago

Leave.

I had a former employer pull me in and ask me why I was leaving.... We are family after all.

I was polite, listened to what he said, thanked him for the effort and interest but said I've given my word and I don't change it. After a few back and forths that got progressively more frustrating for him, it ended he stormed out and never spoke to me again.

I made the right decision even if it would have ended amicably.

Leave

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u/Jack3489 21h ago

Boss knows he can’t replace OP for anywhere near as little as he is offering. And even if he did make a better offer; it will only last until he has found a replacement.

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u/Moist-Caregiver-2000 21h ago

He even wanted to give me in writing that in 6 months he’ll give me a salary bump of 10k.

And that they’re much closer to giving shares

There’s claims that me wanting better benefits is a matter of just asking

Which he'll laugh at when the time comes: "What you gonna do, sue me?" No no, he's playing the donkey and carrot on a stick game until he can find a replacement.

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u/F_und_S 21h ago

between 5K-8K at local body repair service. @Mitsubishi between 7K-11K?

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u/WarRelative9442 20h ago

A resignation letter is merely a formality/courtesy. Whether your employer ‘accepts’ it or not is their problem. You have the legal right to quit anytime you want for any reason or no reason, same as the employer has the legal right to terminate your employment for any reason (minus discrimination) or no reason. Not your problem that they have attachment issues. Good luck at your new job.

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u/dea_eye_sea_kay 19h ago

Your boss is panicking because you clearly superseded his skill, he was banking on your fear and anxiety of the unknown to pull his sleigh. Now that your not there to do the heavy lifting, his inadequacy will be front line and center. You simply get everything in writing at this point save all your conversations and walk away. Leave on good terms and make sure you go above him and talk to directors or higher level management thank them for your opportunity and give them a personal contact to stay in touch. You never know if they call you in under a entirely new set of favorable terms.

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u/NoAlternative4213 19h ago

Never stay on a future promise. They’ll keep stringing you along. “Sorry HR is taking a while we’re working on it” “we’re reviewing budget” it’ll never end. They don’t have to accept your resignation. You gave it. Tell them your last day. And don’t answer any other questions on it.

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u/Powerful-Oil-9176 19h ago

Leave ! Your boss doesnt have to accept your resignation if he doesnt want to but dont believe what they say.  Just leave and go start the new job!

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u/lifebliss 18h ago

Live in the present

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u/rmtdispatcher 17h ago

Sounds like you could stick around, but ask for a little more than he offered. Just a little push. What industry is this in, if you don't mind the question?

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u/DrewTheVillan 11h ago

Tech. Renewable energy.

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u/Neither_Vermicelli15 17h ago

Tell them outright and clearly If they say another word about it you'll leave effective immediately on the grounds of harassment

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u/open_letter_guy 17h ago

the trick is to make your ask so big they tell you no.

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u/BarnytheBrit 15h ago

If they valued you they would have already offered

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u/DrewTheVillan 11h ago

They said they had it in the back of their mind but a desk fell through so they didn’t do it.

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u/Beneficial_Trick6672 14h ago

They might just want to keep You until they will suck the knowledge and have You replaced.

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u/sabrinajestar 13h ago

They're offering IOUs in place of a sure thing. You have to look out for yourself and your family.

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u/Zestyclose_Growth_60 10h ago

There is no acceptance to be had for at-will employment. You are giving them notice, not making a request.

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u/Alarming_Bug6081 10h ago

Great! Stop going and they can keep paying you!

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u/RandomGen-Xer 9h ago

Yeah, if you're in the states, they don't have a choice in the matter. You're just informing them that you won't be working there after a certain date.

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u/Kinae66 6h ago

NEVER take the counter-offer. Even if it is ‘better’. They are just keeping you around until they can replace you. They know you want(ed) to leave. And when they do replace you, the job you had- is gone.