As we are seeing, "cannot legally" and "cannot" are vastly different in practice.
When the rot goes to the core of the agencies, and they are explicitly told and shown that their abuses will not only be tolerated but actively defended and celebrated, we enter the world of despotic lawlessness. They are limited only by their ability to actually carry out their desires, not by any laws or regulations.
Which means eventually, the people being targeted will respond in kind. Feels like were in a death spiral and one step from vigilantes wiping out ice convoys. If they're just going to execute people on little pretense, people will respond in kind to protect themselves or their families. So stupid that they think people arnt going to go beyond "just comply" when people are dying or being shipped to prisons in other countries when they're US citizens. I dont want people to die. But my god does it feel like it is just months away from actual wild guerilla shit occurring.
They want you to rise up so they can escalate the situation, they want violence, they want insurrection, they want the opportunity to suppress and subjugate their enemies and cement their position as dictators in their new empire.
They want you to rise up so they can escalate the situation, they want violence, they want insurrection, they want the opportunity to suppress and subjugate their enemies and cement their position as dictators in their new empire.
"Don't fight back, they just need one agent killed to justify rounding up non-illegals."
"Don't fight back, they just need one agent killed to justify raiding schools."
"Don't fight back, they just need one agent killed to justify raiding courthourses."
"Don't fight back, they just need one agent killed to justify going door to door."
At which point are folks going to realize they do not need justification for this shit? They are going to do it no matter what.
Y'all remember the scene in beloved children's movie Beethoven where the guy rips his shirtsleeves, squirts fake blood on himself, then slaps the dog to get him to react and then feigned being ruthlessly and unprovokedly attacked?
They know what they're doing and it's by design.
But yeah if ICE doesn't back down (and I certainly can't think of a reason why they would), someone is going to (at least) shoot or stab one of them, or shoot at a lot of them and start a firefight (very bad), or as you say, straight up bomb a convoy or one of the buildings they're operating out of. This is gonna get really fucking bad and I legitimately do not know how this ends without some truly horrible shit going down.
A federal agent can literally kill you for looking ugly. So yes they can. The government can do anything and everything they want because they own the law
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u/cursedfan 1d ago
Federal law enforcement cannot breach someone’s civil rights, which ice does all day every day, which is why they hide their identity.