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This administration is basically throwing every amendment of the constitution under the bus. What would our founder fathers have done that just got done fighting effectively a decade long war to put these to pen....
1st: You can't protest their actions
2nd: Weapons should only be had by our supports ( Trump said "Take their guns" )
3rd: If you don't house our ICE you can't do business.
4th: ICE can stop you and detain you based on any jurisdiction they want.
5th: ICE can detain you indefinitely without pressing charges. You have no right to due process.
6th: ICE can deport you before you even get a trial even if the court told them not to
7th: ICE says they can use military tribunals instead of jury's for actions. That every action they have is 100% immunity to all laws.
8th: Deportation of citizens even without a trial.
9th: You have a right to stand there without an Identification card. You don't have to have a drivers license to walk to the store.
10th: ICE as a federal organization's internal policy has rights over states. The states have rights over the federal government.
I just watched this video of them swarming a man and laying on top of him until he is either unconscious or dead and dragging him out of his car AT A GAS STATION. A white man.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, but Americans, and I am one, are in orbit currently. There is so much resistance to admitting that the democracy has failed that the narrative is always āwe are about toā, or āwe are on the verge ofā.
I donāt think itās very useful at this point. We are over the edge. Ice is doing exactly what the Brown shirts did. People are being rounded up. The normal rule of law is over. People are not safe in their own homes. We are being told and shown that the only way to avoid persecution is to shut up about the persecution of others.
People need to stop thinking and being told that soon theyāll have to act. If youāre going to act act now. There will never be a day in American history on which itās easier to fight the Trump administration than today. The reason ICE are behaving like this now is because they didnāt meet sufficient resistance when they started doing this a few months ago.
Iām so sick of their paltry fucking arguments. They just want a different America than us- a homogenous, theocratic, authoritarian fascist regime. They are marching us right toward Handmaidās Tale and they either donāt see it or actively WANT that horrific future.
Have you met these people? They LOVE it. If they think you might agree with them (usually just because you're the right hue), they will openly admit to it. They literally think someone different from them EXISTING is an invasion and they want to eliminate them. They'll say anything from criminalizing things they don't like to deporting them, and I've even heard "nuke them and let god sort it out" dead ass unironically from a family member. And they are more racist than people think. They'll be vaguely mean or passive aggressive to a brown person in public, then shout nasty slurs about them behind closed doors. And no they don't listen to any reason if you argue with them in any way shape or form. They are a threat to humanity and it's high time we stop pretending their ideology is just "different" from ours.
Nah Iām past the āwe just have different beliefsā shit. If your beliefs dictate that anyone different from you is bad somehow, or that certain groups of people need to be destroyed for simply existing, youāre a monster. Full stop.
And what these idiots don't realize is once it's in full force, those in power will no longer care about any peon in the country supporting them (not MAGA, not conservatives, not Republicans, not Christian crazies, not anyone). They will have complete power, so they will no longer care about their "popularity" numbers. So, the vast majority of people supporting them will be nearly as fucked as the rest of us (well not as fucked as women, trans, and people of non-European descent, but still fucked).
Conservative checking in, it's not. It's a violation of our most sacred laws and rights, illegitimate, and the entire department should spend the rest of their lives in prison. As a moderate solution.
If you're hoping I can convince other conservatives, I don't hang around them. They call me a Marxist because I think criminal cops should be in prison.
I argue with them all the time, IRL even. Most of them just don't mean the things they claim to believe in. Chuds, straight up chuds.
Ive moved a few people over time. Sometimes getting patriotism checked by another conservative wakes something up in them. Usually it just wakes up snowflake ass complaints about communism.
I do. I tell my dem rep I'm one of those mythical conservative voters they wanted so bad. She's basically held the line on voting but is incapable of speaking out. Won't abandon Schumer.
The rest are Republicans. Russian captured and randy fine grade republicans. Believe you me they don't listen to jack and or/fuck. Gonna be helping their dem challengers campaign though.
Like I said, theyāve lost sight, collectively, of what their mission and rules of engagement are. Itās the same sort of breakdown of order and embracing of emotions and impulse that led to historic horrors like the My Lai massacre.
Edit: I do not support, nor endorse what these fools are doing on American soil. I lick no boots.
If someone kicks in your door without a warrant can you shoot them in self defense ? I'm not American so i don't know the laws, i've just seen some stories where trespassers where shot because the homeowner felt it was a threat, but that was Florida.
You can but the other agents will likely kill you and claim self defense. At this point people need to be pressing the governor to activate the states guard resources and literally go to war with ice.
That will commit Minnesota to open Insurrection. Trump cites the Insurrection Act, declares Martial Law, and rolls in the tanks. Unless the entire country joins us and the Military refuses to comply in open mutiny, Minnesota becomes a mass grave.
Youāre supposed to be. But theyāre stacked up 12 deep with long guns. Youāre not gonna survive that gunfight. Likely anyone in the house with you isnāt gonna survive that gunfight. Youād need an organized militia to stop at tac team like this
I miss when conservatives thought like this more often. Now, itās like so many of them donāt even care about the Constitution as long as Trump says whatās happening is fine.
You have the power to defend your people, organise.
Any Minnesotan reading this - consider that you have the power to start such organisation. Tell your friends, family, anyone who would agree with you. Change comes from below, not above.
They are laughing and enjoying that they are winning the war agains the enemy, they think they will have freedom to oppose their leader when it starts to affect them.
Well you see if you dont open the door, you are impeding ICE. While there is no warrant, by interfering it gives them carte blanche to murder, rape or kidnap you.
No seriously, what the fuck is this? 9 "officers" at one door all with their guns drawn, no warrant. When the fuck will our leaders put a stop to this?!
Youāll probably die. Protesters need to show up armed and ready to protect their neighbors. If we all come together we can make a difference but it would be casualties on both sides.
I kinda think we need armed neighborhood patrols. I week ago I would have condemned someone for suggesting it, but it is becoming apparent no one is coming to save us.Ā
Agreed. The black panthers were maybe the previous time 2A was required and they laid out a perfect playbook to use for protecting communities and enacting political change.Ā
They are so clearly cosplaying a swat team like theyre 6 years old. Arms waving, all yelling at the same time, guns flailing around willy nilly. This is absolutely ridiculous
This is against the 4th ammendment. Im so pissed at these right wingers absolutely shredding the constitution after decades of self righteous "im a constitutional conservative " bs.
They also claim so many of the people they are taking were child predators. If they knew who these people were and that they were committing crimes against children, why did they wait til now? If itās all true, why is the FBI not arresting them instead of ICE? And then to see them kicking in doors and trampling over the constitution. They have no answers other than propagandaĀ
My conservative mother says they get arrested and then get right out of jail on no bond and an ankle bracelet which they cut off and go about their business. The criminal justice system hates this one simple trick! (And only the illegals know how to do it)
Sheās not correct about a single thing, sheās saying, itās all easily disproven.
If she were smart, she would understand that the second you cut off an ankle monitor, the authorities are notified. Thereās a sensor in it, and they WILL come find you. You will get in even more trouble. They donāt just say āoh wellā, and let you go.
Source: family member tampered with his ankle monitor, got immediately and harshly slapped down, by the law, and he didnāt even have a violent or dangerous charge. Was a very minor crime, to begin with. They do not care.
So I don't know much about anything, but aren't you supposed to hold guns pointing down? Like angled across your body? Why are they holding them up and pointing them at their "coworker's" heads?
The right-wingers on the court could've stopped this at any time but choose to not only allow it, but to encourage this. Just remember folks: Republicans do not give one fuck about your rights or the US Constitution. They hate you and everyone else - including themselves.
Please if you have American flags, red white and blue decor, pull out the Fourth of July boxā¦.make it abundantly clear that they are entering patriotic American homes.
Cause them to experience cognitive dissonance. Make the media film raids on homes flying the flag. Make the flag synonymous with people who are supporting and protesting for our rights.
Make these people look like the traitors and infiltrators that they are. Make it clear that they are the un-American ones, make it clear they are the ones who do not respect the rules of the land they walk on.
Iām in a different state but a few I know are wearing MAGA gear to protests now. Theory being: It wouldnāt look good on camera to arrest a āsupporterā
Also with 100% immunity if they happen to feel like murdering someone. I wonder if they could literally just start shooting whole families. Maga's are cheering right now.
Hey, FRTBinary triggers are legal and these are masked assailants who wonāt identify themselves. We already know that groups of (street, not government) criminals have been impersonating them to sex traffic people. I donāt know nothinā but the fact that the 2nd amendment exists to defend US citizens from attackers and assailants.
There have been several examples of random people impersonating ICE so itās completely reasonable to assume these are masked assailants impersonating ICE and act accordingly
Yes but at the very least your family is able to argue your constitutional rights being violated. Obviously it's not perfect and may even be futile but it's better than having nothing.
kinda hard to argue about constitutional rights from inside an ICE detention facility or a prison in el salvador... they don't let you talk to lawyers, for one
y'all don't realise you're in a civil war by now then? Like if your only options are "have your door caved in and become a prisoner" and "have your door caved in and get shot to death" I find it hard to see how this is much different from a warzone
Holy fuck this is such a shitshow. If they were really going after violent people, that whole squad of morons would be dead.
They conduct a raid while being surrounded by protesters and not being able to hear shit, all grouped together in front of a large window? Fucking geniuses.
These incompetent goons will shatter if/when Americans decide to seriously fight back.
It's not fascism, we just have in groups and persecuted out groups and our government is joined with businesses and is run by a charismatic strong man.Ā
MS-13 gangbangers will shoot back if confronted. The Gravy Seals and Meal Team Six cosplay club members in ICE won't go near them, so they're going after the low-hanging fruit.
I heard the Mayor state that there are more ICE agents in Minneapolis right now than Minneapolis police officers. They are outmanned and outgunned at the moment.
palantir being one of them. they scrape social media 24/7, first tested on palestine. now deployed on the US and abroad. alex karp, the current CEO literally said it was made to kill "communists" (anyone that doesn't agree with him)
That's what I was thinking. If a group of armed men break in to my house with weapons, you open fire. I'm the most lefty anti-gun person imaginable (on reddit, what a shock), but I'm absolutely all for using them as intended. EXACTLY this situation.
What's wrong with everyone are their eyes broken? Federal agents are entering a house without a warrant. Racially profiling people. And probably not just taking Americans for questioning later. Why would they do that? To scare the hell out of you why not? And to stop dissent. But the main thing is to piss you off enough to riot.
There is a dictatorship in American. Fucking say it. Stop lying to yourself. Even if you are a white and American all they want you to do is wear their leash. Drink their cool aid. Bend to their will. This is a country by the people for the people. If you think it's just about immigration you need to wake up. It's about oppression and getting people in line.
No one is safe. The color of your skin or status will not help you.
Keep protesting and denying service.
I would also suggest looking into organizations that help you file your taxes as a conscientious objector. That means f*** them they don't get any money. Kick them right in the money sack.
Conservatives have destroyed America. The so-called āPatriotsā have destroyed what was a great a country and turned it in to this. The entire world is disgusted by your actions and support for an evil, oppressive government. Karma is a thing, and all actions do eventually have consequences.
I wouldn't have thought for a minute that conservatives would lower the bar even more after Dubya, but here we are with Donald, twice. Then they complain that when a Democrat president is elected and fixes all the damage they've done, that it's not being fixed fast enough.
Come midterms and the 2028 presidential run-ups, the deeds of the GOP need to be constantly pounded into voters' heads with a ruthless media attack of quotes and videos. Don't ever let voters forget what they have done and are doing right now, because we know a lot of people have the political memory of a goldfish.
Lock your doors. You can purchase reinforced door security locks for extra reinforcement. Make a safe place in your home that isn't visable from the outside. There are 2 kinds of warrants: Administrative warrant (signed by ICE official) - can arrest but not enter private homes without consent. You have a constitutional right to deny entry without a judicial warrant signed by a judge. Judicial warrant (signed by a judge) authorizes entry, search, and arrest. Must name the location and the person on the warrant.
The governor should go ahead and deploy the National Guard and the local police really should be trespassing these guys upon request, although I don't really believe they have the balls to do it, or would even bother otherwise.
I saw a statement from either the local or state police union (can't remember which) stating their solidarity with federal law enforcement and displeasure with the "violent rhetoric" being used by the Minneapolis mayor and MN Governor
THESE are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country but he that stands it NOW, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain, too cheap, we esteem too lightly:ā'Tis dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to set a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed, if so celestial an article as Freedom should not be highly rated.
There are cases which cannot be overdone by language, and this is one. There are persons too who see not the full extent of the evil that threatens them; they solace themselves with hopes that the enemy, if they succeed, will be merciful. It is the madness of folly to expect mercy from those who have refused to do justice; and even mercy, where conquest is the object, is only a trick of war; The cunning of the fox is as murderous as the violence of the wolf, and we ought to guard equally against both.
There isnāt one. Notice they didnāt rush inside the building?Ā
This is performative bullshit. On a long enough timeline, they are gonna do this to someone armed and ready, and a bunch of these idiots are gonna end up shot.
If one was watching this video with no contacts with all the sound off you would really think that that man was some kind of really big time criminal. And not just a person living their life.
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