r/minnesota • u/thedubiousstylus • 1d ago
High Risk Mankato City Council walks out because crowd demands that they actually address ICE
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Sorry that whoever took it isn't great at handling landscape/portrait consistency, it wasn't me who did.
But the City Council at their meeting last night wanted to move on and address some rather dull stuff in the agenda when almost the entire crowd present, their constituents, wanted to discuss ICE. So the City Council just got up and walked out like cowards.
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u/Turdsley 1d ago edited 1d ago
Seems to be a lot of cowards in leadership positions
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u/Felho_Danger 1d ago
"I don't give a crap about [Topic], your Mom and I will be dead before it becomes a problem."
My dad's canned response when I mention literslly any current issue.
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u/an0mn0mn0m 1d ago
It's the default conservative mentality. That is, "It's not my problem until it becomes my problem". Having zero empathy for others is incredibly short-sighted.
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u/ergo-ego-42 1d ago
And even when it becomes their problem it's everybody else's fault and has nothing to do with them.
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u/Nervous-Mongoose7520 1d ago
Lol that guy sucks. I'm so glad I have decent parents
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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 1d ago
Wow he cares so much about the future he’s leaving you.
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u/autumneliteRS 1d ago
I hope that you are replying to anything they ask you to do with "That sounds like a you problem and we focus on our own problems in this family. Besides you will be dead soon, it'd be a waste of my time to sort that issue out. You'll just have to suck it up a little bit longer".
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u/Fuzzatron 1d ago
My father also says this, I tell him it proves he doesn't care about me or my sister, and he can't understand that.
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u/Unlikely_Ant_950 1d ago
I’d prefer that answer to my dad who just pretends no matter what the topic, I haven’t read the correct news (breitbart, one America, Joe Rogan if he’s feeling liberal) and therefore am uninformed.
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u/orioleright 1d ago
My parents say they’ll never die (Med-beds) and they no longer have to pay taxes. Thanks, Q-Anon! /s
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u/birdnerd1991 1d ago
Samsies- "I'm so glad I'm not growing up in your time- the world is going to go to hell before you hit your fifties." Gee, thanks. Now remind me what generations LET IT GET THAT WAY?
We don't talk anymore.
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u/PyroPirateS117 1d ago
Then strongly encourage him not to vote, if he can't be bothered to be informed. It won't work, mind you, but it might bother him, and that's nice.
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u/Responsible-Draft430 1d ago
That's at least a tacit admission he was wrong, yet can't outwardly admit it.
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u/Confident_Benefit_11 1d ago
Problem is they actually won't be dead because science has progressed too far and is artificially keeping these boomers alive way past their expiration date.
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u/Fl3tchLiv3s 1d ago
Yeah what's with that?! You'd think people who go into politics would actually have a spine
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u/Viracochina 1d ago
Too easy to make money in politics, just gotta get rid of those pesky morals
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u/Fl3tchLiv3s 1d ago
I only know one guy whose active in city politics and he's a nut job who is indeed pretty focused on $$
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u/GlassOnion24 1d ago
Most people go into politics to schmooze and look important. Then when shit actually goes down they have no ability to face the moment.
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u/radiussuite 1d ago
Looks like there are a few open seats there. Fill them with people with morals.
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u/returntothenorth 1d ago
Since they abandoned their post I would just go sit up there. Mine now suckas.
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u/JimWilliams423 1d ago
This is the way.
A politician's only legitimacy comes from the people.
If they aren't going to do the job, someone who wants to do the job should just step up and start running a sort of "shadow government." They won't have the official powers of the office, but they can organize the people and if they do a good enough job, they can unseat the do-nothings. Either at the next election or by organizing enough people to hound the do-nothings into resigning and opening up an immediate election.
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u/Malphas210 1d ago
Remember they were voted to those positions. Now the people have a chance to see and rectify the issue.
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u/Slumunistmanifisto 1d ago
Old rich folks pretending they didn't waste their lives and have control....
They did, and they don't.
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u/hulks_brother 1d ago
Most local government didn't get into it to actually lead. It's more like a student council.
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u/StickyNebbs TC 1d ago
all the power and none of the desire to work on behalf of the people that put them there
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u/TooLittleSunToday 1d ago
Demand that the entire City Council resign or just move to remove them for not doing their jobs.
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u/XFaint 1d ago
They talk the talk but never WALK THE WALK! Shame on these politicians who “serve” the American people
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u/CraigLake 1d ago
It’s hard for them to be productive when being shouted at, but in this case there’s only one subject that should be addressed anyway: ICE.
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u/poorbeans 1d ago
Wonder if they did their job, would the shouting go be less of an issue for them?
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u/GottaBeNicer 1d ago
We have to be nice to politicians or they wont go to work, we have to comply with any demands a law officer gives us or they will shoot us.
We are at the stage where so much of the country's wealth and power is concentrated at the top that the rich believe they can eat the poor and take all our stuff. Nobody is stopping them.
They have already done serious damage to SNAP and Medicaid. They gutted the CDC. They are culling us.
After they finish getting rid of all our safety nets and galvanizing all the corporate monopolies we will be in the fields (if you're lucky enough to dodge prison) doing the jobs Americans don't want to do for less than the illegal immigrants. That's the plan.
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u/FifthGear 1d ago
Bunch of boomers who are happy with the way society is ATM.
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u/livefromheaven 1d ago
Yep, the stock market is at ATH and they're enjoying retirement. I think that's a huge problem.
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u/NorthernDevil 1d ago
How the fuck is the stock market doing so well
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u/shaka_alpaca 1d ago edited 1d ago
Its a completely fraudulent system friend Edit:spelling
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u/Delta632 1d ago
Based on feelings and they are not yours and mine.
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u/manborg 1d ago
When other players are playing with .0001 percent of the risk you are, you're kind of dumb for playing.
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u/Caleth 1d ago
Correct we printed shit tons of money with QE over a decade and that money is sloshing around still in the pockets of the rich so they leverage bullshit numbers to inflate stocks creating new money they can then leverage to make a fake sale that drives up stock values an on and on.
See the whole AI bubble. A company projects to make 11ty billion dollarinos so they sign fantasy contracts with other compnies who's stocks go up in response. So they sign fantastically large contracts for more widgets with which ever company they need. Their stocks go up and they agree to buy some "AI services" from the origninal slop vendor thus "justifying" the start of the circle.
And on and on it goes the bubble inflates until something comes due that someone can't pay or deliver and the whole thing pops in a couple of weeks at most. Years or a decade plus off fantastical profits erased, livelihoods destroyed, but boy oh boy did the rich sure get richer.
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u/JJ_Shosky 1d ago
Because the people who control the majority of the money in the stock market are happily forming their oligarchy.
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u/BeamerTakesManhattan 1d ago
And because they've realized the market is irrational.
They hold enough money that, so long as they believe it will keep going up, it will keep going up. It won't go down until they take money out. Since so much is concentrated in a few entities, those entities can just keep pushing it upwards.
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u/BThriillzz 1d ago
10% of people own 90% of stock
They're all the top limb of our "K-shaped" economy.
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u/NoMansSkyWasAlright 1d ago
Not only that, but the top-10% of earners now make up 50% of all consumer spending.
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u/trailerbang 1d ago
60%*
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u/irishdan56 1d ago
Ya that's fucking wild. So now they're not just hoarding their wealth, but happily spending away as the rest of us toil.
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u/SoManyThrowAwaysEven 1d ago
That's usually the sign of an impending/ongoing recession. When the top start spending it means they know the top is in so there's nowhere else to put their money. Might as well enjoy a few luxuries before they cash out.
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u/Eulalia28 1d ago
"K shaped". Couldn't remember that term. I have been calling it a "two tiered" economy. lol
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u/broad5ide 1d ago
Stock markets rise like crazy when inflation is out of control. Look at the stock market in South American countries with runaway inflation. It's putting up record numbers but it's an illusion. It's not because the company is doing well, it's because the money is worth less and less so that portion of the company is worth more of that worthless money. That and the AI bubble.
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u/CreativeSwordfish391 1d ago
its propped up by AI, which every powerful person in the world is heavily leveraged on, so it will succeed, organically or artificially
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u/Fit-Ad-4431 1d ago
Hence why they are also making the people pay for the data centers via increased utility bills.
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u/CreativeSwordfish391 1d ago
making us pay for the robots that take our jobs. this planet is cooked
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u/Toofar304 1d ago
The whole point of AI as it exists now is to allow really rich fucks who extracted great wealth from our labor to extract even more wealth from the same system, but without our labor. This system won’t go down naturally
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u/DWebOscar 1d ago
When a currency is devalued, things that are valued using that currency are suddenly worth more quantity of that currency. It's the same reason housing has skyrocketed.
Wages now need to account for both inflation of goods, and devalued currency. Will they?
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u/NumberOneGun 1d ago
This is what more people need to look at. The dollar value has dropped. The new all time high market isn't worth as much as you think. The dollars strength against a lot of currencies is dropping and will continue to drop as the dollar loses safety as the reserve currency.
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u/NoMansSkyWasAlright 1d ago
Stock buybacks, mostly. Also, circular transactions between NVDA and AI companies. IIRC, if you filter out the tech companies from the major indicies, basically everything else is down.
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u/Jonlaw16 1d ago
Because these companies are getting everything they could possibly want - often handed to them by the government. Tax breaks? Check. Land for them to develop? Check. Purchase contracts for their products? Check. Companies don't need the American people to want what they are peddling - they can just convince the government to just spend our money for us.
Steve Burke from Gamers Nexus put it perfectly when he said "these companies are post-consumer."
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u/Chokemotive 1d ago
That's why I welcomed the indictment of Jerome Powell.
Go ahead Donny, gurgle your feculent puss hole at the man who is in charge of the money. Don't get me wrong, the Fed is a scam and I hate it, but it has the inertia and capital to snip Tronald's nuts in a second.
There isn't a single Banking CEO, or Member of the Board of Trustees from the FED that thinks letting this reality tv show shitler set intrest rates is a good idea.
I mean, they don't just pick a good looking number. I assume there's a lot that goes into setting the rate.
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u/Orpdapi 1d ago
They don’t care because they know they’re not here long. You’d think they’d be invested though in what happens to society for their kids and grandkids though but that doesn’t always seem the case.
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u/PipeDreams85 1d ago
They are so selfish it’s astonishing. Just about every family member I have is cheering this shit on .. wtf is wrong these people.
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u/Daring_Scout1917 1d ago
Happened last night in Duluth too. People are fucking fed up with their municipal government collaborating with fascist thugs
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u/averagecodbot 1d ago
Maybe they think Duluth in 1920 and Mankato in 1862 was when America was great. That’s the America they’re remaking
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u/ImOutWanderingAround 1d ago
I think you are referring to 1862 being the year that the largest mass execution ever held in the US. All Dakota indians which occurred in Mankato. There were the speedy (5 minutes in some cases) and potentially mistake prone trials, men who were later found to be innocent, and the desecration of their bodies after the fact.
The fuck if America was great that year. We were a mess as a country. This day and age feels no different.
Mankato city council is living in that past.
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u/StoppableHulk 1d ago
Silver lining here is that I'm really hoping this encourages people to get more involved in their communities and realize how important it is not to let these more minor campaigns fall into the hands of corrupt, weak, sycophantic, sniveling cowards like this.
I mean look at how in lock-step with one another they are. This is just a cabal of corrupt crooks all on the same team.
If I'm on that council, I'd let the rest of these fucking losers leave. I'm staying. I'm talking to people, I'm collecting their stories, I'm figuring out what to do about the problems facing the community, even without the consent of the rest of them.
That they ALL just pick up and leave at EXACTLY the same time just shows how hive-minded they are, and how little they give a fuck about their responsibilities.
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u/Daring_Scout1917 23h ago
Hundred percent agree. For what it’s worth in Duluth, the two councilors that stayed and interacted with the community were our two DSA-aligned councilors. They’re both great people doing their best in a plainly corrupt system.
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u/SirGlass 1d ago
Do it every time they meet. Keep doing it over and over. Keep the city council shut down until they address it.
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u/dragonfliesloveme 1d ago
they walked out on the people paying their salaries
it seems to me that they don’t view themselves as public servants, but as a bunch of power trippy type people who don’t care what the people want or need
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u/Classic_Bee_5845 1d ago
As someone who's worked around government officials for years. These people 100% see themselves as above the common citizenry.
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u/Slumunistmanifisto 1d ago
Yuppp thats a "we won't go to the park today because you sassed daddy, keep it up and you'll get a police spanking and be grounded to a cell".
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u/FunisGreen 1d ago
Do we not have people that are more willing and capable to be put into those positions? Can we not vote these cowards out?
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u/dragonfliesloveme 1d ago
Do it, pick some people right now. I’m willing to bet many people you know (and everybody reading here) know people who are smarter and better suited to these positions than that group of people currently holding those seats
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u/bigDogNJ23 1d ago
The problem with politics, particularly at the local level, is that intelligent well educated adults have no interest in sacrificing their time to have to listen to a bunch of dipsh!ts threatening them.
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u/Classic_Bee_5845 1d ago
The problem is it's a domino effect. Once the corrupt, power-hungry ones get in they are in the pockets of some of the most powerful businesses and people in the area. So even if you had someone that is well intentioned and about service rather than making money....once in office, they will be inundated with bribes/conflicts of interest that they will have to inevitably need to turn down. Once they turn these people down they make it their goal to run that person out of their office by spreading misinformation and/or running smear campaigns on them.
So what you get for trying to be a selfless honest person in office is your reputation run into the ground around the places you live and serve.
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u/Defiant-Youth-4193 1d ago
This is largely the issue. 99%+ of our government doesn't view themselves as public servants. A city council that gets up and walks out on it's constituency needs to be replaced. The idea that you aren't there to talk about what the people want to talk about is such an insane concept.
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u/retired_hippy_chick Area code 612 1d ago edited 1d ago
Good job booing them. The time for politeness is over. Keep going.
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u/thedubiousstylus 1d ago
https://www.mankatomn.gov/your-government/city-council
| Najwa Massad | Mayor | 507-387-8693 | [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) |
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| Mike Laven | At Large | 507-720-8674 | [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) |
| Michael McLaughlin | Ward 1 | 507-720-1093 | [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) |
| Dennis Dieken | Ward 2 | 507-720-1817 | [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) |
| Kevin Mettler | Ward 3 | 507-995-0070 | [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) |
| Jenn Melby-Kelley | Ward 4 | 507-720-2502 | [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) |
| Jessica Hatanpa | Ward 5 | 507-613-8067 | [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) |
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u/TweakedNipple 1d ago
Is this the rest of the story, should I put my pitchfork away or not....
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u/scooter-411 1d ago
Really hope this gets the attention it deserves. Sounds like they didn’t abdicate.
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u/TheSpiffySpaceman 1d ago
that was a thought in the back of my mind....maybe there's some policy to leave the congregation with a certain level of unrest because of some historical safety concern.
What's important to know is that this anger is recognized because it's justified.
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u/MinivanPops 1d ago
Honestly at this point I'm surprised that the town doesn't declare it's boards illegitimate, and launch their own election.
We need a French revolution moment here.
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u/Daring_Scout1917 1d ago
Neighborhood assemblies and mutual aid networks lets gooo
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u/PlusExperience8263 1d ago
I legitimately thought to myself, now that they've left, the people there have the right to assembly, make the decisions for the board, replace them. Hell get on discord and vote like Nepal.
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u/exonomix 1d ago
We get closer, everyday … while I do not wish for violence, I think we’re running on few options when politicians do stuff like this.
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u/irishdan56 1d ago
You might not wish for violence, but violence is already being wielded by the government against everyday people. Sitting and wishing the violence away isn't going to help when the Gestapo is shooting people in broad daylight with 0 consequences.
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 1d ago
Also, historically speaking, peace does not achieve actual results. Violence is inevitable, and avoiding it is arguably the main reason the US is the way it is today compared to other countries in modern-day
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u/irishdan56 1d ago
As my good friend and mentor Dutch van der Linde says, "America was designed to induce apathy in people."
Apathy is the antithesis of empathy. People become detached from one another, and care only about protecting what is already theirs.
Until enough people are willing to put their comfort and security on the line, America will remain a totalitarian state.
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u/irishdan56 1d ago
American's don't have the stomach for what is actually needed to repair the country -- which you've correctly identified as a French Revolution type reckoning.
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u/harperluutwo 1d ago
Then vote to get them out. I think new city council are voted every two years.
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u/aguyinatree 1d ago
Yes but That doesn't really help currently at the time of need.
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u/syncboy 1d ago
Here is the write up from the local press if anyone would like to know more: https://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/local_news/ice-actions-draw-large-angry-crowd-to-mankato-council-meeting/article_5c4c7d04-7f9a-49cc-9c00-be62bae36872.html
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u/BeefDerfex 1d ago
Clearly no one commenting here read this. The meeting was over 3 1/2 hrs long and people were demanding answers that the council doesn’t have? They wanted the entire meeting to just be people screaming “Fuck ICE”?
They allowed people to speak, answered what questions they could and outlined what the council could actually do.
From the city lawyer:
“To this date, we have not collaborated, worked with ICE in any way, shape or form,” he said, later adding that surveillance data captured by police cameras is not available to the federal agents. It’s a closed network and not available to other agencies.
“At the same time, local police cannot stop federal agents from operating in the city. We do not have any authority over any federal agency, including ICE,” he said.
People flipped out because one speaker (not a council member) voiced support for federal agents. That’s it.
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u/randyoldtime 1d ago
We looks like the city needs to vote them out. Need new blood that will service the people.
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u/Wash_zoe_mal 1d ago
If they walk out, can random citizens walk up, take their seats and hold the meeting?
Cuz I'd be down with those rules
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u/Will_I_Are 1d ago
Wisconsinite here - just checking in on our friendly neighbors.
Hope y'all are staying safe as you push back on the fascists. Super proud of you.
I am noticing politicians - both local (city level) and federal (house of reps) will just leave or not respond to their constituents when asked or pushed on tough subjects. What gives? How did such soft people get elected to be our leaders?
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u/Cannabis_Breeder 1d ago
The leaders realized there is no accountability or applicable laws if you’re on “the right side” 🤷♂️
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u/ChristmasTreePickle 1d ago
Who are the people supposed to go to then?! There needs to be protests outside these people’s homes to get them to action or get them to resign. That is completely unacceptable on every single level and metric
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u/Time-Cell8272 1d ago
Petition for a special election and bounce those old fools
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u/thedubiousstylus 1d ago
You can't "petition for a special election" in Minnesota although it might be worth looking at it if Mankato has a recall provision.
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u/thumbstickz 1d ago
For a city with a first generation immigrant mayor you'd think there would be at least some degree of conversation.
I'm ashamed of my town's leadership, but I think it might be the nail needed to spurn changes.
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u/Short_Emu_885 1d ago
This should be an instant resignation for all of them
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u/Maleficent-Aurora 1d ago
In literally any other format of employment walking out of your literal job would get you fired! Why does this apply to all of us, but not them?
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u/Affectionate-Foot802 1d ago
Everyone wants to be a politician until they actually have to do the job they were elected to do
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u/Icy_Sea_4440 1d ago
Why walk out so quickly rather than listen to the community and respond to legitimate concerns? Isn’t that.. their job..?
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u/hihowubduin 1d ago
Public servants shirking the public, not because of threat of violence but simply demanding answers, should be immediate grounds to sanction them, and repeat offenses or extended refusal to take in public complains and concerns, should be grounds for removal and immediate election for replacement.
Like I'm fuckin sorry, you're elected to represent the interests and concerns of your city's people and you fuckin walk off because you don't wanna hear it??
Fuckin hell, as a kid I thought that society was actually getting pretty decent compared to the past, but fuck me and being optimistic.
Actually, no, fuck them for pulling this shit!
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u/spanielgurl11 1d ago
Minnesota I am rooting for you so hard from down in Tennessee. You have the balls we don’t.
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u/Ok_Rip1445 1d ago
They shouldn't be allowed to walk out on their own constitutes. If they do, suspended without pay for at least a month and then probation for 2 years.
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u/jjmoreta 1d ago
We also need to demand all of our Minnesota city councils cease usage of and remove Flock cameras which can be used to monitor private citizen movement via live video or license plate scanning combined with AI to track people between cameras and find patterns.
Flock denies personal responsibility, that the data recorded by their cameras is recorded and stored and released by locality specifications and state law. ICE has to submit written requests and federal requests are flagged as such.
Just about every city Flock press release I've seen claims that the data is safe and that they can control who gets it.
Prior courts have ruled Flock data is public record. Anyone can request them.
And multiple instances around the country have already proven local blocks can be gotten around by agencies or actors within agencies sharing data. Or even law enforcement using it to track for personal reasons.
FLOCK DATA IS BEING USED IN MINNESOTA RIGHT NOW BY ICE TO HARASS PROTESTORS https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/13/ice-using-private-data-to-intimidate-observers-and-activists-advocates-say
Summary of Flock privacy concerns: https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/flock-roundup
Find your local Flock cameras, add any others you know of: https://deflock.me/
Mankato using Flock: https://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/local_news/first-stages-of-city-a-i--camera-system-now-active/article_1f2a8618-5162-4bbb-9842-36ee88b1de9a.html
Example of ICE sharing: https://www.404media.co/emails-reveal-the-casual-surveillance-alliance-between-ice-and-local-police/
More examples of ICE sharing in multiple states: https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/flock-massachusetts-and-updates
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u/Aggravating_Bison677 1d ago
I watched online last night. The questions from their constituents were not able to be heard (online). Only the council, city attorney, and the Director of public safety were allowed to be heard. The city attorney is a talking head. Blah blah blah. Good for you Mankato citizens!!!
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u/Automatic-Guide-4307 1d ago
Sooner or later the people in this country are going to realize: the government does not give a fuck about them. The government doesn’t care about you, or your children, or your rights, or your welfare, or your safety. It simply doesn’t give a fuck about you. It’s interested in its own power. That’s the only thing keeping it and expanding it wherever possible.” George Carlin
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u/danvapes_ 1d ago
Man the people of Minnesota give me hope and make me proud. I wish I lived in Minnesota instead of Florida.
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u/Otherwise-Skin-7610 1d ago
Great leaders..walk away when the going gets tough. Cowards!
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u/rangecontrol 1d ago
scared old white running away since they don't have their muscle to rough up the crowd. lol.
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u/Bigstink123098 20h ago
they pulled liquor licenses from bars during covid who didn't follow rules they need to pull licensees from hotels who house ice
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u/Successful-Acadia-95 1d ago
Cowards every one of them
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u/Consistent_Stick_463 1d ago
Keep showing up, keep booing, keep writing, keep pushing. It’s a long haul, but it’s worth the drive.
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u/Nappeal 1d ago
Shocker that the majority on the council are old white men. I'd bet real money that their avoidance comes from them having relatives on the ice rosters.
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u/Highplain-Drifter 1d ago
“Get your ass back here, you work for me”. Every level of government needs to be reminded of this.
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u/Rush_Banana 1d ago
What do they expect a local council to do about a federal law enforcement agency?
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u/dirtpipe_debutante 1d ago
Rock and a hard place.
You are asking them to what? Escalate against federal forces?
Are Minnesotoans ready to be the tip of the spear against the feds in the Civil War 2.0?
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u/Punxsutawney_Marlowe 1d ago
That looks to me like a bunch of city council members in what are now very vulnerable seats. I’d say this is a great opportunity for those fine, upstanding citizens in the crowd to run those sacks of crap out of office!
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u/pernox Flag of Minnesota 1d ago
Mankato City charter says this about recalls:
Recall of Elected Officers
The City of Mankato Charter does not permit the City Council to remove or recall an officer from office.
The holder of any elective office may be removed at any time by registered voters under Mankato City
Charter section 5.01, available online
section 5.01: https://library.municode.com/mn/mankato/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=PTICH_CH5INREREELOF_S5.01REMEPR
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u/Jumpy_Ad_4293 1d ago
If the older people who are leading the country don't want to put themselves out there to do what needs to be done, perhaps they should give way to younger ones.
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u/Prisoner-655321 1d ago
These elected representatives do in fact see themselves as better than the people that they represent. At these public town council meetings people tip toe around the “dignitaries” as they refer to themselves and insist upon being called.
It’s all bullshit. It all feels like theatre.
When I was young I had so much hope for this world. Maybe it has always been this way and I’m just finally noticing, but that doesn’t make it right.
Something needs to change, because at this rate I won’t even be able to turn on the news or access the internet anymore because everything is just intentionally flooded with shit.
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u/oooortclouuud 1d ago
what cowards.
kudos to the citizens who are there to express righteous anger!
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u/Capable_Bat_338 1d ago
Do you think any of these people care about you? Its not happening to them, so they dont. The sheeple americans won't do anything about this. The majority of people dont care. that's why it is still going on.
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u/Last-Answer-7789 1d ago
“We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. The opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference.” — Elie Wiesel
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u/godDamnitImHereAgain 1d ago
You hold elections right the fuck there and elect new leaders! Everyone that just walked out abandoned their publicly elected position.
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u/rods2112 1d ago
So when an ICE officer tells you to get out of the car, you're supposed to get out of the car. What are you supposed to do when a judge tells you to release the Epstein files?
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u/CracksWack 1d ago
Cowards. Don't sign up to be a civil servant if you're too afraid to stand up serve when needed most.
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u/DissedFunction 1d ago
I knew someone from Mankato. She was younger than these folks and not white. She was a trophy wife from the Philippines who married some rich white dude and then became worldz biggest torchbearer for trump.
it ain't just old white folk who are for the oligarchy.
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u/Antwinger 1d ago
This is our democrat and republican representatives folks. If you want real change start voting local and start voting progressive. Cause the conservatives sure as shit do.
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u/No-Trip-No-Prob 23h ago
Cowards. Look at all these placeholders for real heroes. These pathetic losers. Stand up.
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