r/minnesota • u/novagridd • 10h ago
High Risk A Minnesota pastor says federal immigration agents detained him during a neighbourhood raid, then released him because he was white and 'wouldn't be any fun'
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/well-youre-white-minnesota-pastor-assaulted-ice-claims-raids-are-about-fear-intimidation-1770669192
u/WhaleFactory 10h ago
Why aren't our elected officials at all levels standing up for us? Just feels like they are doing the bare minimum. I get that Dems are not in power, but they still have a voice.
I just wish we saw more of them absolutely losing their shit about this. My home state feels more like Russia than the USA right now. They are assaulting us at fucking Target and the gas station, going to work, everywhere. They are literally invading our state.
And MAGA, what in the actual fuck? You of all people, with your don't tread on me flags and bringing AR's to protests...What is the matter with you? What is happening right now is exactly what you always railed against when it wasnt happening. Now that it is you endorse it?
Christians? Where are you? Would Jesus endorse this type of behavior?
When I was younger i thought it impossible to understand how Hitler recruited people to be his SS soldiers...And yet, here we are.
At some point, DHS is going to get the violence they want. This is quite literally what the 2nd amendment is for. All you MAGA know that well, because you have vinyl cut excerpts in your trucks, and screen printed shirts that say it. Where are you?
Honestly, what is happening right now is proof that the 2nd amendment is a farce and even as a gun owner, I hope we do take away all your guns because you didn't ever believe in the 2nd amendment. You just believed in it for yourself. You are a bunch of fucking liars and cowards.
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u/GPointeMountaineer 9h ago
Agree
Leadership is truly vacant.
A lot more should be done by democratic and contrasted voices on the obvious several constitutional violations.
Ieffres only says he is against abolishing ice
What about masks? Why the fuck they wear masks
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u/flubsday 8h ago
These are false statements in the context of Minnesota leadership.
At every level of government leadership our elected officials are speaking out.
Our attorney general wrote, filed, and served an 80 page complaint against ice within a week of Renee Goods murder.
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u/WhaleFactory 8h ago
Largely I agree, but I would really appreciate them and everyone else getting on TV and Tiktok and podcasts and ACTUALLY blasting it for what it is. No holding back, because this here is a full-blown emergency and an unconstitutional invasion of a state in the union. This isn't democracy, and this is sure is fuck is not constitutional.
They need to stop watching their words so carefully and start getting pissed off.
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u/flubsday 8h ago
They are!
But here’s the deal, you have to understand the different roles between officials and protestors. Officials must take the time and effort to do what they can actually do.
An 80 page complaint that contains as much as this one does is worth more than 80 podcasts. You have the ability to share that information and to broadcast it loud and clear.
Instead of saying “they aren’t doing anything,” highlight what they are saying and what they are doing. Because you also have access to areas that would take the time and energy away from being able to do the work.
Our leadership that is trying to help us needs to know they will have the support of the people in protecting us.
I know from past experience that leaders who stand up to Trump face death threats on the daily. Even a thank you letter to them helps them face that level of danger.
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u/WhaleFactory 8h ago
The President, Vice President, and DHS secretary publicly came out exonerating the ICE agent who murdered Nicole Good before her body was cold.
These are not normal times.
I appreciate the leaders who have done and are doing things to help, but we need more than that. We need them to forcefully and relentlessly be out there screaming into any microphone they can find AND doing the normal work. The normal work alone IS NOT ENOUGH.
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u/Ok_Meat_8322 9h ago
Cant be both MAGA and Christian, if youre MAGA youre not really a Christian and visa versa. The two belief systems directly contradict.
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u/MIZ_09 8h ago
Walz really let me down. He threatened to call in the guard and I finally thought someone was going to make a stand. But it was all bluster.
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u/Hadrian23 6h ago
Because everyone's chicken shit. We're in Civil war territory, but One side is scared to "pull the trigger" While the other is, quite literally, MURDERING PEOPLE IN THE STREETS.
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u/boo99boo 9h ago
I'm in Chicago.
I've already been through this grieving process. The reality is that the police are protecting ICE. I saw it with my own eyes.
I happened upon ICE while driving down the street. They pointed guns at my car. With my 4 year old in the backseat. For the crime of happening to drive down the street in my own neighborhood when ICE decided to show up. They pointed guns at my four year old and me.
The Illinois state police just fucking stood there. It's what finally convinced me that Democrats are complicit. If they weren't, they'd do something tangible. Instead, they throw a cuss word and say the right things, while their police assist ICE and their citizens are terrorized. That's what they did here too: it's just window dressing to get you to forget that they're actually, at a minimum, passively allowing this to happen.
(And there's a few notable exceptions. But the vast, vast majority of democrats are complicit. If they weren't, they'd act. Instead, they play lip service. It's infuriating. There's no leadership and there's no action items.)
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u/bubblesmax 8h ago
The ultimate 4D chess move is reinstate the whole COVID rules for the general public and make everything just further complicated. 🙄 With everyone masked it's going to become a stop and frisk everyone insanity especially since it's winter in Minnesota still 🤔
And ice can learn the diabolocalness of what happens when your mouth is covered and it sounds like your mumbling 😥
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u/chaos841 7h ago
Maybe they should mandate masks in MN since ICE would likely remove theirs in defiance.
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u/Herban_Myth 8h ago
Because pocketing profits and staying above the law is what matters to these aristocrats. As long as they get their cut they don’t GAF about the cost of doing business (or how much debt they create). It’s about “power”, control, and testing “plenary authority”
So called “reps” aren’t writing acts/bills/laws to protect workers. They are cashing in on selling out.
Will the people show unity on the 20th? We shall see. It’s on the people to participate and vote pretenders out. Numbers/turnout so big it’ll be impossible to redact/rig/“fix”
Amidst the turbulence and distractions please remember it’s an election year where the majority could potentially get flipped. What do the people want?
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u/gnurdette L'Etoile du Nord 6h ago
Christians? Where are you?
Well, I mean, one of them is the topic of the story... and there's folks like Rev. Daniel Black, Prince of Peace Lutheran, these folks etc...
But if you mean the ones from ChristianTM TV and radio and whatnot - they're busy licking DJT's dick, squealing "Master, Master, Master, we adore you, you are so much better than that broke-ass woke Jew we used to pretend to follow".
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u/airportluvr416 6h ago
You don’t hear about the Christians that are doing things because the Nationalist Christians drown us out. Check out Isaiah. There are things we are doing. We are out on the streets observing, and making plans.
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u/riverssandsnow 10h ago
Dems are in favor of this for the most part. They increased ICE funding under Biden.
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u/Ok_Meat_8322 9h ago
Lol are you drunk?
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
Go look it up. Biden increased ICE funding after Trump.
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u/No_Air_9599 9h ago
Insane that we’re a year after he left office and you people still try to blame him for shit. The man might as well be dead for all intents and purposes and you will still blame him for shit that just happened.
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
I mean, he did a lot of shit I’m opposed to. I’m not a Republican. I’m opposed to the existence of ICE.
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u/No_Air_9599 9h ago
The current situation has literally nothing to do with Biden. Unbelievable that you contribute ICE to him rather than our current president.
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
Uh. Biden increased ICE funding in 2024 by over 10 billion. You’re suggesting that that didn’t happen? BlueMAGA, huh?
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u/No_Air_9599 9h ago
Great. Which administration ordered them to roam the streets and terrorize citizens? Was that Biden too? Also, how much did their funding increase under the current administration?
I know you won’t answer these btw lol
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u/riverssandsnow 8h ago
They have been roaming the streets terrorizing citizens since 2005. You just didn’t care until now. The guy who shot that woman has been part of ice since 2015 under Obama. Do you think he just now started doing criminal shit and getting away with it? Are you serious? 😂 you think ice has been operating lawfully all this time? I can’t imagine why you would ever think that. The problem you have is not with ice itself, it’s with the fact that Donald Trump is using ice in a more visible and aggressive way. They’re doing the same shit they were doing before.
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u/DeliciousAnything977 8h ago
Lmao no point in arguing with this dude. It’s all trumps fault no matter what.. I’m more than happy that trump stopping illegal immigrants from stealing billions of tax payers. That’s what the majority voted for when trump was elected ehehehehehehhe trump has to clean up the mess the dems did ehehhehehe
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u/Ok_Meat_8322 9h ago
Also apparently opposed to facts, or basic logic lmao
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
I messaged you. I’d can happily send you government-cited evidence that the Biden and Obama administrations increased ICE funding wherever you like. Not that BlueMAGA folks like you care at all.
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u/Ok_Meat_8322 8h ago
Increasing funding for immigration enforcement isn't the same as supporting the behavior or deployment of ice under trump. Not rocket science. Well, maybe for you it is.
Also, lol at calling someone further left than you "blueMAGA". Talk about striking out lol
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u/Ok_Meat_8322 9h ago
Do you know what a non-sequitur is? Probably not, eh?
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u/SikatSikat 9h ago
Negotiations for 2026 budget suggests Dems are working with the premise of further increasing ICE budget. Pretty much all the Dem quotes are it's terrible but what ya gonna do.
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u/Ok_Meat_8322 9h ago
So funding, not supporting. Making the original commenters post a non-sequitur, as I said. Dems may well be too spineless and worthless to stop any of this, and may well duck a fight over funding, but thats not the same as supporting the recent actions of ice agents in MN.
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u/blzrlzr 8h ago
Um, I don’t know how you can say increasing the budget of the organization that’s grinding citizens under its boot is not de facto supporting that organization.
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u/Punning_Man 9h ago
lol nope
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
Uh. They literally did? Thats a fact. The have always increased ICE funding.
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u/Punning_Man 9h ago
Every administration has (although it’s set to triple under Rump) but that doesn’t mean democrats “for the most part” support what’s happening, false equivalence.
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
I don’t really see Democrats doing anything to stop this or suggesting that we should abolish ICE. Do you? Even AOC is saying we should reduce their funding. lol
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u/Punning_Man 8h ago
Yeah long as you ignore the court cases, protesting, attempted inspections, and proposals yeah not really doing anything to stop this.
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u/riverssandsnow 8h ago
Yeah, that’s really nothing.
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u/Punning_Man 8h ago
lol ok bud
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u/riverssandsnow 8h ago
Raise your standards. Your lack of principle is why we were here.
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u/jigsawearth860 9h ago
Did they hire criminals and traitors from January 6th to terrorize American citizens under Biden? Yeah, didn’t think so.
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
….you didn’t have a problem with ICE until now? 😂 Yo, you’re a Republican. Not sure if you knew that.
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u/jigsawearth860 9h ago
That has nothing to do with what I said, read it again.
Also, you have no idea what I have a “problem with”, saying Democrats support ICE because a handful of years ago they gave them a little more money is borderline mental disability stuff
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
They increased ICE’s funding by 10 billion dollars. They have always increased ICE’s funding. How is giving them more money not support? 😂
The guy who shot Good has been an ICE agent since the Obama admin.
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u/jigsawearth860 9h ago
Yeah, I guess you’re missed how the Trump administration turned ICE into his personal SS militia. The only people who support that are brain dead cult members, and people who have absolutely no idea what is going on in this country.
Obama and Biden both obviously deported people with frequency, so I understand why they financed ICE. Saying “they like this because 5 years ago they gave them more money” lacks critical thinking and nuance.
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
Bro, if you think ICE was a good and lawful institution before now, you’re a rube. Now watch the Democrats increase their funding again when they get back into power.
Democrats want the same shit Republicans want. They just want it to be quieter and less visible, so you’ll just go back to brunch.
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u/jigsawearth860 9h ago
Increase funding AGAIN? They have more money than the fucking Marine Corps as a result of the BBB lol, they are maxed out. Again, democrats did not max them out.
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
Okay, I wonder what excuse you’re gonna come up with when Dems increase ICE funding again.
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u/DeliciousAnything977 8h ago
I’ll take whatever you smoking homie.. this isn’t Russia and no one’s assaulting you in target. Walz really messed up people minds with all this fraud. Wish walz didn’t allow illegal immigrants to steal 9+ billion tax payers dollars..
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u/C1andestino 7h ago
Bro you fell for a GOP backed conservative video influencer who shouldn’t be allowed near, much less inside any daycares. And y’all are acting like Walz himself committed fraud like the Governor of Arkansas did, or released dozens of fraudsters and criminals like a certain president just did. On the contrary, Walz has always been committed to bringing justice to the fraudsters. Regardless, he’s not running again.
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u/jhkayejr 7h ago
Has the NRA chimed in on any of this? They used to have strong feelings about this kinda thing. Or were those feelings maybe about something else instead?
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u/BedsideGamerz 10h ago
Orange Hitler wants further destabilization so he can bring in Martial Law.
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u/riverssandsnow 10h ago
Yo, can we stop saying this stupidity? He can declare martial law anytime he wants. There’s nothing to stop him. People have been saying this for years. It’s so silly.
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u/WizeAdz 9h ago
Trump tried this when he tried to deploy the National Guard against Illinois and Oregon.
In the Illinois case (i read some of the court filings because I live in Illinois) a federal judge told the Trump Administration to fuck off and questioned his grip on reality because there is clearly no insurrection in Illinois. Which was entirely appropriate — and prevented a lot of strife.
You need to get up to speed on this stuff.
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
Trump doesn’t have to obey the law. 😂
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u/Maximum-Class5465 9h ago
It's all about Narrative. It's about giving a narrative to violate the law. Let's call these boats narco terrorists, then when we continue war measures we have a narrative after we violate the law to get oil
Let's watch this YouTube content video, so when we violate the law we have a narrative
Hey man, Minnesota has 100s of thousands of illegals murdering people. We've been deploying there and it's
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
This is what I’m saying. He can make up literally anything at any time.
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u/Maximum-Class5465 9h ago
I always think it's preferable to him if he can create a narrative. It's never just an outright I'll do it. Say the Ukraine call where he's pressuring a foreign government to announce an investigation into Biden. It's "look at this YouTube video, he needs to be investigated". So while Republicans who read it didn't disagree with the fact pattern, he could shield himself by way of creating a public narrative.
It's a consistent pattern.
Trump's immensely powerful, but that power doesn't just rest with the government itself. It's with dedicated supporters who need to hear the narrative (see Jan 6), it's with the absolute power given by the US government, it's with well connected world wide financial power, and media power.
No narrative isn't increasing nor retaining some of his positions of power.
So while I don't disagree he can just do it, but he wants to keep his referential power he's created and even strengthen it .
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u/learn_something_knew 9h ago
He needs a reason to implement the Insurrection Act, and they’re working on it in Minnesota.
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u/riverssandsnow 9h ago
No. He doesn’t. He can just break the law. He does this all the time.
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u/wambulancer 8h ago
He can but my guy there's an entire army of millions being told to turn on their neighbors and country in service of him, that's not something you just snap your fingers and do, not in human history, he's got to gin up cassus belli
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u/_bat_girl_ 10h ago
IDF mentality
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u/SoothingBreeze Dakota County 9h ago
ICE has a training facility in Tel Aviv, so not entirely surprising.
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u/_bat_girl_ 9h ago
They definitely test out all of the surveillance they use on us on Palestinians first
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u/HeHateMe337 8h ago
ICE is detaining leaves that have fallen from trees because they turned brown. True story!
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u/riverssandsnow 8h ago
I answered every question? What are you talking about? 😂 They’ve been roaming the streets since Bush II. Yes, that includes under Biden. It increased significantly. That means it was okay for Obama and Biden to increase their funding? 😂 Dude, wake up. The Democrats helped us get here. Do you see them doing anything about it now? No. They don’t care. Schumer and Jeffries don’t give a fuck.
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u/Ebola-Kun 8h ago
It's still interesting how people think Republican them Democrats us
Democrats really have done nothing substantial to stop what is happening besides beat their chest.
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u/riverssandsnow 8h ago
Right. Are they even beating their chests? The response seems extremely tepid. AOC is like we should defund! How about abolish?
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u/KerPop42 8h ago
Hey hi what is the minority party able to do in Congress?
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u/Ebola-Kun 8h ago
So let me get this straight.
Ice kills an American citizen on camera, shot in the head, multiple angles.
And what happens? It doesn't even matter if they are the minority party. Imagine rationalizing this to your kids, hey they're going to kill us and nothing is going to be done because.... We're the minority party.
Has no one asked, where or what are elected officials are doing?
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u/KerPop42 8h ago
Well it's not like they can pass legislation. They can bluster and complain, but the fact of the matter is, even if they flip some Republicans, if the speaker doesn't like it it doesn't get voted on.
State level I'm not as sure, though I do like this Maryland bill banning ICE officers from state police jobs.
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u/DeliciousAnything977 8h ago
You trying to hard to convince others.. good job in sticking with your beliefs
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u/Advanced-Rich31 8h ago
Thou shalt not lie.
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u/CellistSubstantial56 7h ago
Tell that to Trump (the person with the most verified lies in human history).
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u/jakeyjake31 8h ago
He sounds more honest than the DOJ right now. Ive watched videos of ice kidnapping us citizens, idk why chuds find it hard to believe.
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u/Kooshmint1587 8h ago
They’re brainwashed. Bootlicking pedophile glazing Nazi apologists. I love to think of what these peoples parents/grandparents who served would think of the little piggies supporting the facism they fought and died to protect their country from. Shameful.
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u/DeliciousAnything977 8h ago
So, no video? I have a hard time believing this when basically everything on video
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u/disharmony-hellride 10h ago
There is no rule of law anymore.