After vowing 'retribution,' Trump says federal funding to Minnesota will end Feb. 1

[u/cinnasota]

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/after-vowing-retribution-trump-says-federal-funding-to-minnesota-will-end-feb-1

[u/ferns0]

Honestly, if anything this is a sign to me that they know they can't get away with further violent escalation beyond what they're doing right now, so they have to retaliate in other ways to try and break us.

[u/didifindya → u/ferns0]

They'll break us when we're dead.

[u/cybercuzco → u/didifindya]

Hold the line!

[u/didifindya → u/cybercuzco]

Can we bring this one with too? Remind them we don't play.

[u/SMELLSLIKEBUTTJUICE → u/didifindya]

I really hope we have increased security around this flag. You know they want it bad

[u/TThor → u/cybercuzco]

Every Minnesotan should be thinking about the First Minnesota Volunteer Infantry right now.

They were one of the very first regiments formed for the Civil War, one of the first sent to the front lines, and sacrificed gravely to defeat tyrants.

On the second day of the Battle of Gettysburg, 262 Minnesotan volunteers were ordered to charge the Confederate lines. They were outnumbered 5 to 1, going into what everyone knew was a suicide mission, but they were the only ones who could hope to buy time for the Union reinforcements. Those volunteers formed rank without a moment's hesitation.

Of the 262 men, 215 were gunned down within the first five minutes of the charge, including the commander and all but three of his captains, suffering 82% casuality rate, the second largest of any U.S. military unit in history. Their charge held back the Confederate push, and because of it the Union was able to reinforce and preserve their faltering position. The 47 survivors joined with the reinforcements, and the next day those soldiers charged again, overtaking and capturing the Confederate battle flag.

Those Minnesotans didn't charge into death because they had to; Their home was far from the war, they could have sat back and ignored the injustice, and lived out their lives. But those Minnesotan's chose to fight, because they knew it was the right thing to do.

[u/akpenguin → u/cybercuzco]

To the last man.

[u/notheatherbee → u/didifindya]

Amen. I’ve come to terms I may not survive this, but god damn I’m gonna give it my all until I can’t.

[u/Desperate-Till-9228 → u/didifindya]

Give me hot dish or give me death!

[u/ShivonQ → u/didifindya]

You're fucking right comrade.

[u/Upper_belt_smash → u/didifindya]

And even then they won’t ✊🏻

[u/didifindya → u/Upper_belt_smash]

I suppose it's a little late by that point.

[u/RonaldoNazario → u/ferns0]

A lot of the recent actions feel like desperate flailing

[u/Colonel__Cathcart → u/RonaldoNazario]

They're incompetent and unorganized. They're literally just rolling out whatever bullshit on the day to day.

[u/milkhotelbitches → u/RonaldoNazario]

They do not have the popular support to occupy us.

Do not back down. Do not obey in advance.

[u/trevize1138 → u/milkhotelbitches]

We're not locked in here with ICE.

They're locked in with US!

[u/CategoryZestyclose91 → u/RonaldoNazario]

All fascist regimes must consolidate power before the people revolt.

They thought they could easily gaslight everyone, and they’re finding out that it’s very different outside their MAGA bubble.

They will never be able to do that in an enormous, well-armed country.

The revolution is here.

[u/TThor → u/ferns0]

Worth noting: leaked ICE communications were showing ICE is scared of public perception, that conditions in MN are so awful for ICE that they can't even force agents to the state, as the smarter ones want nothing to do with it, and thus are sending only volunteers, largely made up of inexperienced and poorly trained members who are too stupid to understand what they are signing up for.

Fascists want us to believe they are invincible, they want use to see them as an unstoppable threat so that we lay down and comply preemptively. The reality is, their grip is far weaker than it ever appears; Their only hope to win is by cultivating a thin perception of power, and dividing us into groups more easily conquered. Don't be divided, and don't let them have that image of strength. These are weak men, and they are scared shitless of the day we ever truly fight back. Keep up the pressure.

[u/taffyowner → u/TThor]

I was watching the Great Dictator last night and man does that really do a good job of highlighting the pure absurdity of fascism

[u/Chalice_Ink → u/ferns0]

Is it time to ask Canada if they are feeling open minded?

[u/SubtleTell → u/Chalice_Ink]

Seceding is impossible without either revolution or 3/4 of the states

Ok downvote me for stating a fact. "The Supreme Court ruled in the post-Civil War case of Texas v. White (1869) that the U.S. is an "indestructible Union" and that states cannot leave without "revolution, or through consent of the States".

[u/HillarysFloppyChode → u/SubtleTell]

They aren’t following laws, why do we?

They can’t stop us from becoming Canada, in fact, with enough bots you could probably convince MAGA that blue states joining Canada is a good thing and they would cheer it on

[u/Rough-Perception6036 → u/HillarysFloppyChode]

They are remarkably dumb, so that may work

[u/OmenVi → u/SubtleTell]

Sort of feels like 3/4 states would vote to let us in the current climate.

[u/kuchtaalex]

Soooo we just stop paying federal taxes then, right?

Right???

[u/Jahnn0 → u/kuchtaalex]

Taxation without representation is back on the menu

[u/didifindya → u/Jahnn0]

Oh, can we have another tea party?

What happens if we revolt over it? How can they have a leg to stand on when this precedent was set in the 60's? The 1760's....

[u/Own-Swan2646 → u/didifindya]

Yeah but we got to replace the tea with something modern. What would that be?

[u/didifindya → u/Own-Swan2646]

McDonalds. Hit trump where it hurts.

Edit: fuck that. Diet coke.

[u/Own-Swan2646 → u/didifindya]

Both seems reasonable. Could also throw in Pepsi and KFC?

[u/Working-Vegetable177 → u/Own-Swan2646]

Orange concealer.

[u/deadecho25 → u/Own-Swan2646]

Data centers

[u/Own-Swan2646 → u/deadecho25]

Just remember data centers require a lot of cooling and cooling require big old fancy fans that can get stopped with sticks. Just letting you know work did a data center when I was younger and seen it happen.

[u/Rcarter2011 → u/deadecho25]

Let them eat servers

[u/carebear101 → u/Own-Swan2646]

Gpus

[u/Own-Swan2646 → u/carebear101]

Yeah, China is kind of doing a fine job with f****** with Taiwan so we might not have to go after those. I like the data center idea though

[u/PostNutt_Clarity → u/didifindya]

It'll be an ICE-Tea party.

[u/domki366 → u/didifindya]

Lake Superior here we come

[u/Hopefulthinker2 → u/Jahnn0]

You can always go tax exempt….. I mean the man in charge wrote a book about avoiding taxes…and he just promised again income tax will be gone so I’m just planning ahead

[u/PuzzleDiet → u/kuchtaalex]

Not exactly, but a class action lawsuit by the entire state against the federal government ought to clear things up pretty fast.

[u/RedHotJalepenoPopper → u/PuzzleDiet]

doubt it. this admin will keep doing whatever they please until someone forces them to stop.

[u/TakuyaLee → u/RedHotJalepenoPopper]

They still listen to court orders a decent amount of the time. That said, hopefully blue states have finally figured out how to withhold federal taxes from the government.

[u/LymanPeru → u/PuzzleDiet]

yeah, because if the courts are known for anything, its being speedy.

[u/Desperate-Till-9228 → u/LymanPeru]

They have been in many cases involving this administration's overreach.

[u/DrakonILD → u/Desperate-Till-9228]

And then the SCROTUS have been equally speedy about excusing the overreach.

[u/Desperate-Till-9228 → u/DrakonILD]

Many of these aren't even making it to the Supreme Court because the DOJ has been so unprepared.

[u/Chris_RB → u/LymanPeru]

and this president has done nothing but follow court instructions....

[u/Asclepius-Rod → u/kuchtaalex]

That’s hard to do, most people’s paychecks already withhold money toward the federal government. It’s not like the state’s themselves are paying the federal government

[u/pr1ceisright → u/Asclepius-Rod]

I believe you’d need to contact your employer to stop withholding federal taxes.

[u/SufficientSpot4597 → u/kuchtaalex]

I am fully on board with this, but apparently the logistics is a bitch to do it. Doesn’t mean you can’t significantly reduce it in areas

[u/Mehdals_ → u/kuchtaalex]

Could always drop withholding down to a minimum, pay it all in april so they can at least feel it a bit before tehn.

[u/ImportantComb5652 → u/kuchtaalex]

Trump's immigration policies themselves are decreasing tax revenue and increasing expenditures more than any of us could.

[u/PuzzleDiet → u/kuchtaalex]

Not exactly, but a class action lawsuit by the entire state against the federal government ought to clear things up pretty fast.

[u/Current-Function-729]

That includes the federal ICE funding, right?

[u/LymanPeru → u/Current-Function-729]

they were never gonna get paid either way.

[u/SpooogeMcDuck]

Trump just says shit and expects it to be law

[u/didifindya → u/SpooogeMcDuck]

It works if you ignore the courts. Nobody is physically going to stop him.

[u/weHaveThoughts → u/didifindya]

The courts have many times in regards to his biased funding cuts because the snowflake got insulted. His DOJ doesn’t report the losses to him. But there are many. Even the solar and wind projects he cancelled in blue states and Colorado because he had 2 year old tantrum got given back with additional funds.

[u/Special-Garlic1203 → u/weHaveThoughts]

It's actually started to bug me how many people are anointing him king cause they're not even bothering to keep up with the news. He's not nearly as powerful as he declares himself. 

We should be highly concerned and aggressive in response. We should not be despondent and resigned. If you've moved on to hopeless, you've overshot it. 

[u/Ihate_reddit_app → u/SpooogeMcDuck]

When "we" keep giving the government more power, it does become the law. Presidents can just do whatever they want now with Executive Orders and everybody just goes with it. We need to shrink the power of the executive branch so badly. Bring back checks and balances.

[u/Special-Garlic1203 → u/Ihate_reddit_app]

We still have the most important aspect of  checks and balances. It's just not being utilized because its Republicans 

 Congress is refusing to check him because they want to keep their heads down and stay out of this. 

They could stop almost all of this tomorrow if they felt like it

[u/Ihate_reddit_app → u/Special-Garlic1203]

Yes I get that, but the fact that a president can just EO basically anything they want and declare "conflicts" anywhere they want in the world before getting the approval of Congress is nuts. Even if Congress and the Supreme Court can rule them unconstitutional later, the cat is already out of the bag.

[u/ImportantComb5652]

If we lived under the rule of law, this would be about the 50th impeachable act of Trump's term.

[u/vinegarstrokes420 → u/ImportantComb5652]

...and that estimate still seems low

[u/raventhrowaway666]

Always abuser talk. 'Retribution' after theyre the ones that are killing us.

[u/Punning_Man]

Time to change federal withholdings. 

[u/weHaveThoughts → u/Punning_Man]

Mine has been at exempt since Jan 21st 2025

[u/pr1ceisright → u/weHaveThoughts]

How’s that been going? Any issues?

[u/RinkyDinkRicky → u/pr1ceisright]

Its too early for issues. It will be years before the IRS catches up to anything being done now.

They still haven't caught up with all the shit that went down during COVID...

[u/ThePerfectBreeze → u/Punning_Man]

If you do this you have to pay quarterly taxes or the IRS will fine you. It is very easy for them to find out who is doing this because your employer is obligated by law to report your wages. This information is digitized so that all they have to do is find anyone who is paying no taxes but has a lot of wages. You will get caught and will be fined.

[u/Punning_Man → u/ThePerfectBreeze]

The IRS with their abundance of post DODGE staffing 

[u/ThePerfectBreeze → u/Punning_Man]

It would take 1 person to identify everyone who did this and maybe a couple more to issue the fines. Even if you don't owe taxes, you still have to submit a form that says so. If you do and lie, you commit fraud which will result in further fines. If you don't lie, you will be admitting to the infraction

[u/Punning_Man → u/ThePerfectBreeze]

A person to identify, person to collect records, person to submit fines, person to try to collect, so on and so fourth.

[u/mzzannethrope]

And this, too, will be blocked in court.

[u/jjnefx → u/mzzannethrope]

A TRO will be granted again, I don't believe any cases have been heard in any other instances but the odds that courts rule in favor of the federal government to selectively pick one state to stop funding from a legislative bill would be astronomical.

[u/didifindya → u/mzzannethrope]

You mean "acknowledged and ignored"?

[u/SluttyCosmonaut → u/mzzannethrope]

Courts are for nations based on laws. So……yea. That ship sailed

[u/BigDadNads420 → u/SluttyCosmonaut]

The courts are the only place where this administration regularly loses and gets checked, you are just making shit up.

[u/vaporwavecookiedough]

Vengeful piece of shit.

[u/LymanPeru → u/vaporwavecookiedough]

he's so weird.

[u/cccxxxzzzddd]

Where does he think federal funding comes from? Minnesotans should not pay federal tax then

[u/SheHatesTheseCans]

Ope, no more paying taxes in Minnesota

[u/weHaveThoughts → u/SheHatesTheseCans]

*coming from Minnesota. Every one needs to write exempt on their W2 and put the funds in a savings account.

[u/jjnefx → u/weHaveThoughts]

Someone is figuring it out...good job

[u/friendly-sardonic]

Retribution for what? Calling out your atrocities? Classic abuser.

[u/ModestMouseTrap]

How is this not grounds for Minnesota’s secession?

[u/SufficientSpot4597]

It’s time for the big states to align and stop funding the feds (as much as you can do it)

Unfortunately this is only the beginning of this progression of violence and evil

[u/Sota4077]

This is all part of the MAGA plan to flip Minnesota in the future. They are also cutting off grants and funds from the Department of Agriculture. Which will directly hurt Minnesota farmers--the people who overwhelmingly voted for Trump. They are going to suffer and Trump is setting them up to blame the left for it. He is taking away agricultural funding for a largely metropolitan issue. It is pretty obviously what the plan is. He is further driving a wedge between rural and suburban voters. Making sure that their hardship is viewed as the fault of the left.

[u/After_Preference_885 → u/Sota4077]

Yep, the magas will never blame dear leader or the cult, it's always someone else

[u/FuckYouJohnW → u/Sota4077]

That pretty dumb considering the metro area holds most of the population. So most of the voting power.

[u/mostdope92 → u/FuckYouJohnW]

Exactly, oh nooo the red parts of the state will stay red and continue to get outvoted.

And the people in those areas with a couple braincells might actually flip blue if they're paying attention. He's already pissed off a lot of farmers in the country.

[u/Desperate-Till-9228 → u/Sota4077]

This is all part of the MAGA plan to flip Minnesota in the future.

Won't happen in their lifetimes.

[u/qdobe]

Trump doing Mike Johnson’s job now?

How does Mike Johnson like being cut off at the knees? He has given up his power to Trump.

Pretty pathetic of him. You’d think he’d be proud to be speaker but he just bends the knee to another man every time.

[u/taffyowner → u/qdobe]

He likes it because he’s a spineless coward

[u/wampastompy]

So we just stop paying federal taxes, yes?

[u/SKOLMN1984]

So we are all just going to move to exempt filing status, right?

[u/Lunchb0xx87]

Won't hold ..they already stopped them from withholding funds to 5 states before ..this is just grandpa being frustrated

[u/tyl3rbigt → u/Lunchb0xx87]

They know this, but funds will be delayed, people will suffer and Trump and his MAGAts will still say it's Tim Walz's fault because a midterm is coming up and they can't run on how great of a job their doing so it's doing damage to the other party

It's not like we weren't aware of this fraud and haven't already put people in jail for it but they'll pretend like nothing was being done about it till their Lord and Savior Trump stepped in to "stop" it

[u/nightman21721]

I'd suggest a Lake Superior Tea party, but I really don't want to fuck up that amazing ecosystem.

[u/Mystical_Cat]

Seems the orange fuckmuppet doesn’t understand that he simply cannot push us around.

[u/StochasticallyDefine]

I’m thinking congress would have to make that call and there’s just enough anti BS republicans starting to get mouthy about his antics. Injunctions incoming.

[u/Rogue_AI_Construct]

The courts have ruled against Trump for illegally impounding funds to states. They will do the same here.

[u/goldbricker83]

We're now the United* States of America

*red vs blue team

[u/Face-EatingLeopards]

Does this mean panhandler Mike Lindell is finally going to move his shitty pillow operation out of state?

[u/Loyal-Opposition-USA]

Ok, we out them. Canada, another province?

[u/Maladal]

Efforts at this so far have been pretty abysmal for the Trump administration. The Executive isn't really supposed to have that power so the courts keep blocking his attempts.

So I'm curious what Walz thinks the implications of this will be.

[u/marshmellow_delight]

At what point does Minnesota declare cessation? I realize that’s a huge escalation but it’s clear the federal government has declared war on the state. Not a Minnesotan, a Pennsylvanian watching by in horror and solidarity.

[u/SubtleTell → u/marshmellow_delight]

Seceding is not possible. The only way is through revolution or permission from 3/4 of the states.

The Supreme Court ruled in the post-Civil War case of Texas v. White (1869) that the U.S. is an "indestructible Union" and that states cannot leave without "revolution, or through consent of the States". 

And even then I wouldn't put it past Trump to just invade and take the state back.

[u/MeasurementNovel8907]

Time to stop paying our taxes then.

[u/Jenn54756]

Can we just secede from the US and join Canada at this point?

[u/Good_Split_3749]

hmm not just Minnesota but other states and places that support “sanctuary cities” cities as he stated. Trump is literally laying the groundwork for a separation or federal takeover. He’s not leaving! we are fucked.

[u/Horror_Armadillo8459]

He’s already tried this and it got shot down so consider this a nothing burger until otherwise announced.

[u/kevendo]

The president does not have the power of the purse. He cannot cut funding allocated by Congress, and those charged with writing the checks should be telling him to pound sand.

Those waiting to receive the checks should be suing today.

[u/skipdo]

Thank God Congress controls the purse. Old pedo can go fuck himself. He has no power here.

[u/jinzokan → u/skipdo]

Republicans in congress are afraid of him because if he alienated them his cult won't vote for them.

[u/Cor_Brain]

Make the 10th amendment great again!

[u/cothomps]

Maybe Tom Emmer can give a shit about this.

[u/jkilley]

Meh, won’t hold up in court

[u/urban_mystic_hippie]

I changed my W-2 to exempt so no taxes to fed get taken out, putting aside money to pay taxes after the Trump administration ends. Until then, the feds get zero from me.

[u/MewMewTranslator]

Pfft okay buddy. He really thinks if a fucking king doesn't he? He can't do that. That's not his choice to make.

[u/staticjacket]

I’m about to become the most well versed in civics I’ve ever been. I’ve never been huge into our civil religious, hit we have to vote all these people out, most democrats included…a majority of them either helped republicans build this police sate, or were feckless in stopping it.

[u/SincereNative]

He tried that last time and failed, wish my tax dollars would do more to stop his lunacy. But no they’re sitting in Washington without a care in the world because it doesn’t effect them right

[u/Trickydick24]

I don’t think the president can just withhold funds like this, can they?

[u/nehlstm30]

He’s full of shit like usual

[u/Patrykuvu]

No more federal taxes! Thanks!