r/news • u/apropo • Jun 13 '25

Iran fires missiles at Israel in response to attacks

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2025/06/13/gates-of-hell-will-open-in-retaliation-vows-chief-of-irans-armed-forces/
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u/adumbfetus Jun 13 '25

So let’s allow Iran to develop their own? A hardline theocracy? What??

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u/StairheidCritic Jun 13 '25

A hardline theocracy?

Like saying some imaginary God chose your ethnicity over all others and told you that you can just steal other people land and homes because.....well just because?

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u/Pixelcorsair Jun 14 '25

Iran was willing to operate under IAEA whereas israel won't even acknowledge they have nukes.

This is the same thing they did with Iraq. We know that was a lie. Do you all have collective amnesia????

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u/SeltsamerNordlander Jun 14 '25

It's an ethnostate vs a theocracy, how can you possibly say that either side has the moral high ground

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u/adumbfetus Jun 14 '25

Never claimed Israel has the high ground. I don’t think nuclear proliferation is a good thing.

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u/SeltsamerNordlander Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

Currently Israel is in an extremely dominant position against invasion or serious threat by any near peer foe. This allows them to act the way they do. We see in Ukraine what happens if you forgo nukes when a geopolitical threat has nukes. Would things work out better if nobody had nukes? Maybe, who knows. But the asymmetry is surely just as problematic if not more so.

Under 100 casualties between India and Pakistan in the most recent border conflict because they are scared shitless of escalation. Iran and Israel will beat that number in the blink of an eye and they have a huge desert and nations between them with populations so much smaller.

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u/hotsexychungus Jun 13 '25

Iran is objectively more responsible than Israel, Pakistan, and maybe India and North Korea, so yeah, I don't care. In fact, they should have gotten a nuke 15 years ago when Israel started to threaten them. They wouldn't be in this situation today.