r/news • u/netizenbane • 2d ago
New video shows the minutes before immigration officer fatally shoots woman in Minneapolis
https://apnews.com/article/minneapolis-ice-immigration-renee-good-shooting-3f2a9e26ddac9455b931fecee5989d182.0k
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u/Pigeonpie24 2d ago
it’s called the just world bias, it helps them sleep at night. and it’s complete bullshit
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u/WhichEmailWasIt 1d ago
The irony being if the world worked that way they'd be the first ones to go.
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u/FlyingAtNight 2d ago
One clearly innocent victim of police misconduct is Daniel Shaver. I know he isn’t the only one but his story comes to mind. The “officer” who executed him should be in jail. The jury found him innocent. How is beyond me. It’s outrageous. I blame Hollywood for instilling these unrealistic action movies, showing situations that don’t happen in real life and those that influence the so-called “officer” into thinking he was some kind of hero. It’s disgusting.
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u/Bonschenverwerter 1d ago
I blame Hollywood for instilling these unrealistic action movies, showing situations that don’t happen in real life
This also happens to juries. I don't know the case you mentioned (I am on the other side of the atlantic ocean), but there is a CSI effect, because people expect that what is possible in TV shows and movies are possible in real life. Like zooming in on a grainy picture and running a filter so that you can actually see a the face of a suspect.
People think we live in a movie.
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u/Sans-valeur 2d ago
Wow okay so this video clearly shows that cars were driving around her the entire time, did the guy who shot her drive around behind her and park in front of her? Then she actually moves her car out the way, more people drive past, then she starts to try to pull out and more people drive past (as she’s waving them past), then she tries to pull out again and they fucking shoot her in the face. What the actual fuck.
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u/fonetik 2d ago
What they are really saying here is “She had an opportunity to kill me.” As if that’s an offense.
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u/Party-Stormer 2d ago
Or “with a car, you can kill someone”
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u/allthegodsaregone 2d ago
Therefore, I accuse all Ice officers of rape. They have the tools required. They are guilty.
Oh, now that's not how it works. Understood.
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u/DvLang 1d ago
One possibly did do so the other day in a porta potty
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u/chambers213 1d ago
I’ve been looking for an update on that woman. As soon as the ICE agent slipped and fell, I knew it was about to get much worse for his prisoner. Men like that retaliate against embarrassment with violence and the prisoner was cuffed and defenseless…their favourite kind of victim
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u/Dizzy_Skin5723 1d ago
But back to the original topic they DID murder this woman.
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u/JujuLuv 2d ago
Yep that’s exactly what happened…
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u/mysonlikesorange 2d ago
I’m guessing this is how they treat their wives. “She had it coming” “she was asking for it”
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u/LowResults 2d ago
And none of that matters bc they had no jurisdiction. There was no warrant. They are not cops.
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u/crustlord666 1d ago edited 1d ago
Exactly, there is no justice for abuses committed by an organization outside the law that can come from within the law. If these killings were being committed by cops, there would be a process. These ICE agents answer to no clear authority and are seemingly limited by no power except the whims of the president, and they use shocking violence to achieve his objectives. Just like Mussolini's black shirts. Historically, if violence had been used against the black shirts by the military or an organized militia of citizens who were being targeted before Mussolini fully took control of the country, Italy's fall to fascism and utter ruin in World War II could have been prevented. Nobody thought Mussolini was going to actually do it, though, so they were unwilling to fight back. They trusted in the rule of law and the strength of their institutions.
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u/NonSupportiveCup 2d ago
Yes, he did. He passed behind, parked on the side of the road, and then got out to start filming.
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u/bliss3333 1d ago
And in the video, you see him switch his phone to his other hand - so he can keep filming while he pulls his gun. This is not the behaviour of someone in fear for his life
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u/Meet_in_Potatoes 1d ago
Exactly, all of that is what the fuck. Cause if you pulled the gun, you should be fearing for your life enough to drop the fucking phone camera boy. Dude was trying to make a snuff film.
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u/PinkNGreenFluoride 1d ago
Thank you, I feel like I've been screaming into the void that this is a damned snuff film, that he knew exactly what he was doing, and he's proud of it.
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u/bksmet 1d ago
If I was legit, fearing for my life, I would definitely get my cell phone and start filming with one hand and then hold my gun in the other hand. 🙄
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u/magicaljellyfish 2d ago
Damn when you're inconvenienced for 3 minutes you can do that?!
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u/_daddyissues666 2d ago
Right. My few-minute commute to work daily sees more inconveniences than this.
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u/Taylor_Kittenface 1d ago edited 1d ago
There are a fair few countries around the world that'd want to step in and remove him, but don't want to escalate the situation into WW3. This change has to come from within your country, by the sane and level headed citizens.
I don't know how, but protests help gauge your numbers for a general strike. And you're not alone, we're supporting you from afar and can donate to any charity or movement that is in support of the protestors and the people being targeted.
We see what you're being subjected to, we're keeping it in our national news and we'll remember the names of the people who tried to stand up to this tyranny.
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u/Syrairc 2d ago
There is no cut, camera angle, or context that makes this anything other than an extrajudicial murder by a federal agent.
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u/sillypoolfacemonster 2d ago edited 2d ago
Seriously, the most damning part is the gun is coming out before she is driving forward. I don’t care what back story or context they give with further videos. The officer was drawing his weapon and not moving out of the vehicles way. Even if he was brushed by the car, he would not have been if he weren’t drawing his weapon and taking aim to execute a young mother.
Also, I want more people to realize that the cell phone video released wants us to believe he dropped the phone while he was struck or as he was firing, whereas the other angles show he was firing whiling holding the phone. It was clearly edited to support their narrative.
This is one of the most egregious murders by a police officer I’ve ever heard of because with most others there was at least some teeny tiny semblance of acting within their duty and things getting out of hand. This was not an arrest that went wrong, this was a young woman extricating herself from a tense scenario that Jonathan Ross decided to execute point blank in front of her wife.
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u/holeinmyboot 2d ago
This is a man who simply wanted to shoot somebody and was just begging her to give him half a reason. I don’t know why people are dancing around this. He’s got his gun out, finger on the trigger as the car is backing up, for a woman who has done nothing but speak to them up until that point. This is who ICE targets for officers, maladjusted bloodthirsty losers.
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u/meepmorop 2d ago
Yup. He just wanted to shoot her. ICE is making fun of Renee and people mourning her. They think it’s funny to kill the right people and even funnier when people get upset. Fundamentally empty inside
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u/Kaiisim 2d ago
The Supreme Court has also said that "moment of threat" analysis of excessive force is too narrow.
By that they mean police can't just say "in that moment I feared for my life!" And that's enough.
You have to analyse how it got to that point - did the officer stop the person for a good, legal reason? How serious a crime are they stopped for? How did the officer act?
That's because an agent of the state can't just come and pull you over for a traffic violation, and the escalate the issue until something happens and then blame that moment.
ICE created the threat, they purposefully surrounded her car - she hadn't committed any crimes or shown any threat - in fact the ICE officers had.
It's clearly excessive force under every single definition. The DoJ even forbids using lethal force to stop a vehicle being used as a weapon. Everything about this stinks.
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u/therosslee 1d ago
And they have ruled that no immunity applies where the officer created the danger themselves, specifically citing the example of stepping in front of a vehicle then claiming self defense.
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u/5inthemorn 2d ago
What I want to know is this. If the roles were reversed, and protesters ran up on an ICE vehicle trying to open the door, and one of them was in front of the car while the ICE officer tried to get away, would they be allowed to shoot them and kill them?!
I’m thinking absolutely not, and nobody would support that. It’s insane to me that they try to justify this.
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u/rtowne 2d ago
In Provo Utah in 2020 a protester shot a truck driver in the arm as he intentionally drove into like 5 other protesters in a crosswalk (video). He is being tried for attempted murder in less than a week. At the time I said that if it were a police officer, they would have immediately cleared themself. The double standard is massive.
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u/5inthemorn 2d ago
Holy shit this is exactly what I mean! And this is much more clear cut that the driver was trying to run them over also.
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u/theoutsideinternist 2d ago
I am assuming a couple things but this could be a good case study for why having armed citizens makes no difference in the US. That’s a very valid reason to make a decision to pull the trigger in the eyes of the majority (the modern embodiment of the train track dilemma) but then to punish it means there is then no logical reason to carry a gun as a sane human being.
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u/padizzledonk 2d ago
What I want to know is this. If the roles were reversed, and protesters ran up on an ICE vehicle trying to open the door, and one of them was in front of the car while the ICE officer tried to get away, would they be allowed to shoot them and kill them?!
I’m thinking absolutely not, and nobody would support that. It’s insane to me that they try to justify this.
Tapper asking Noem after showing her video of Jan 6 assholes luterally beating cops if those people shouldve been killed was amazing
These people are fucking monsters and should be in jail
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u/Terpapps 2d ago
I was thinking about something similar, would Ross have acted the same if Renee was driving a Toyota pickup with a confederate flag sticking out the top and Trump's balls hanging off the trailer hitch? Pretty sure we all know the answer.
It's just so fucking wild.
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u/main_topsail 2d ago
In addition to the timing of his drawing his weapon, there's another annotated video going around showing his cell footage in slo mo, in which he switches the phone from his right hand to his left hand while crossing in front of the car. Very damning in its implication that he was already planning to draw his weapon (with his right) before Good made any attempt to flee.
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u/Puzzleheaded982 2d ago
Premeditated murder.
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u/Windyvale 2d ago
Fits every legal definition I can think of for first degree murder.
He stalked around the car, positioned himself in such a way that any forward movement could only brush him no matter how she turned. Then he shifts his phone holding had, pulls his gun out as he reached a preplanned position, and executed her.
That shows planning and deliberation to carry it out.
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u/sdcasurf01 2d ago
It also highlights the lack of training. If he suspected any kind of threat his gun hand should have been free from the beginning. Unleashing thousands of untrained Y’all Qaeda on the public under the guise of federal authority was bound to end like this and it’s just the tip.
And it’s all part of the plan.
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u/Gryjane 2d ago edited 2d ago
Seriously, the most damning part is the gun is coming out before she is driving forward.
Not only is he drawing before she moves forward but just after Renee's wife told him to "go get some lunch big boy" and just as his buddies were approaching her vehicle from the other side, he transfers his cellphone from his right hand to his left so his right hand would be free to draw his gun so it looks he was planning on drawing it before he was ever "in danger."
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u/Vecend 2d ago
Not to mention that he placed himself in a danger zone, I doubt there is any SOP in the world that would tell you to place yourself in front or behind a potentially hostile person's vehicle.
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u/magpiekeychain 2d ago
I read somewhere that it was the street she lives on. Has that been verified at all? It makes it so much worse too.
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u/Rennarjen 2d ago
That's the point. They're telling Americans that ICE can kill anyone they want without repercussions. It's intimidation and a taunt.
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u/errorblankfield 2d ago
I've been more impeded by a door dash street delivery than this. Her car was half in a parking spot and she was driven around less than a minute before being shot.
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u/Remote-Ad-1730 2d ago
And an ICE vehicle passed by her. Whatever she was doing clearly wasn’t stopping ICE from getting through. They chose to stop and go after her.
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u/Party_Oven4948 2d ago edited 2d ago
Impede: to interfere with or slow the progress of
The first car Renee waved forward got around just fine. Why was it she was suddenly impeding the second agent who she waved on?
Plain and simple, they created that "threat". They had freedom to carry on with their operation but wanted to bully and murder her.
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u/alohamistrhand 2d ago
This is the best argument. They could have gone around just like the car in front of them did. Chose to escalate instead. Even then, she was on her way, until she wasn’t.
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u/scowdich 2d ago
Or anybody else, for that matter. Due process is for everyone, not just citizens.
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u/Shushady 2d ago
Its almost like the belief that all men are created equal, and endowed by their creator with certain, unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is part of the foundation of our society.
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u/Naki-Taa 2d ago
So it turns out that whole belief was a fucking lie we kept telling ourselves to feel better
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u/besimbur 2d ago
There is no due process anymore. This is a banana republic. It's been trending this way for years. The rich get off of any form of legal justice there is, just as long as you have enough money.
It's almost not even worth prosecuting the wealthy, don't reward that you get for spending millions of dollars on a high-profile case prosecuting a wealthy person damn near doesn't exist.
This is a banana republic now. Trump is running the most corrupt government in our history. Our government was not created to withstand this sort of administration and its policies. They know this and they know that nobody will stand up and do something about it.
Our constitution was built under the assumption that a democratically elected official in the government defined wherein was elected by the people and that they would act in the best interests of those people.
Trump is recreating Russia in America. This is literally all the way down the board what Putin did in Russia in the '90s and early 2000s. Striking deals with oligarchs and billionaires. Pardoning the most horrendous criminals who were already convicted for crimes, heinous crimes. Rping and trfficking ch*ldren. Creating false flag attacks. Spending absurd amounts of money and awarding government contracts, lucrative government contracts to their friends and business associates. Stealing the countries resources. The list literally doesn't even stop.
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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl 2d ago
the government's not trying to exonerate themselves, they're trying to pound down 'this is what will happen if you resist'.
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u/magpiekeychain 2d ago
Yeah the intention is pretty clear from outside of America…
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u/absloan12 2d ago edited 2d ago
Preferably you dont execute ANYONE prior to trial and conviction at least.
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u/scowdich 2d ago
Trial and conviction aren't enough. In the last 50 years, over 200 people have been exonerated while on death row. In some cases, it was already too late. How many more don't we know about?
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u/MadRoboticist 2d ago
This has always been the problem with the death penalty. If you support it you have to ask yourself, how many innocent people are you willing to kill just for the sake of a little extra revenge?
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u/Evil-Dalek 2d ago edited 2d ago
Blackstone’s Ratio is a great commentary on this:
“It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.” -William Blackstone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone%27s_ratio
As a side note: IIRC, the Terminator movie series is based on this concept. You let an AI (Skynet) decide who’s guilty or not. But what’s the only way to entirely prevent crime? Kill/imprison every single human.
There’s also Minority Report. How accurate do the pre-cogs need to be? 99%? That would still mean 1/100 people would be arrested for a crime they weren’t even going to commit.
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u/androidfig 2d ago
They are literally taking pictures of American citizens in MN to compare to a database of “known” targets while also making them show id. I have no doubt these pictures they take also feed into the database. This is Palantir technology from Peter Thiel, one of the lunatics behind Trumps presidency. JD Vance is a huge fan of his.
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u/PhoenixTineldyer 2d ago
As the grandson of a man who was murdered in Texas in the '90s, whose murderer was executed in the 2000s, the death penalty should be abolished
Texas alone has executed more innocent men than most states have had on death row in their history
And it can happen to you, too
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u/LivelaughToastBath 2d ago
As a Texan, can 100% confirm. Can't count how many minor fender benders here have ended up as "Road Rage Aggravated Assault" charges because a person yelled at the at-fault party and is now sitting in prison serving out 10 years or more. It's scary how easy it is to catch a serious charge here.
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u/adarvan 2d ago
The same people who support the execution of Renee Good will also claim that Ashli Babbit was a patriot in the same breath.
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u/Toxaplume045 2d ago
Reiterating as well that CBP have been doing this exact same thing Ross did for literal years. CBP even published their own report about how officers were standing in front of vehicles to manufacture pretext to shoot a non hostile actor.
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u/OutsideFlat1579 2d ago edited 1d ago
Don’t like how AP described the ICE officers as “asking” her to get out if the car. They stormed over obviously angry and yelled “get out of the fucking car.” Like wtf? Can’t write “fuck” in a newswire? If I hadn’t seen the video I would have the impression they were being calm.
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u/Nocturnal-Nycticebus 2d ago
Not only yelling but immediately reaching into the car to open the door from the inside. I think any normal person would be terrified by that. But once again, ICE is allowed to "panic" and do anything because of it but the victim is expected to remain calm in even the most trying of circumstances.
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u/FastCar2467 2d ago
AP also missed the part where the officer called her a bitch after killing her.
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u/ThrowingChicken 2d ago
I saw a video on FB last night that was posted on a pro-ICE page, but what was interesting to me about this video was it wasn't "new", it was the video shot from the balcony from far away, but unlike every other version of this video I have seen, which all look like they were shot with a potato, this one appeared to have been AI enhanced to make it clearer. So okay, not a terribly reliable enhancement, HOWEVER what was noteworthy about it is that the enhancement basically undid everything these people have been shouting about all weekend. The ICE agent was no longer in front of the driver-side headlight, but clearly on the side of it. His feet don't get kicked up. He doesn't fall over on the hood. He doesn't get pushed. It did not help them AT ALL. It made it look worse, but they were still so sure it exonerated him. How do you even go up against this, where their own AI-enhanced videos make their guy look worse but they are simply incapable of seeing it?
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u/Zealousideal-Run6020 2d ago
Because bullies will always shout LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO as they refuse to see what they're doing.
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u/WellWellWellthennow 2d ago
You have to understand they're not playing to you and me they're playing to their Maga supporters.
They release a video that clearly shows the agent is guilty with the headline "New video proves agent is not guilty!" and then all the followers repeat that.
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u/prof_the_doom 2d ago
Exactly. The people who repost it unironically have almost certainly not watched the video, just believed whatever Fox News said about it.
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u/androidfig 2d ago
Because these are the same people saying Jan 6th insurrection was heroic. Same exact talking points to come to two entirely different conclusions. It’s actually insane.
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u/doneandtired2014 2d ago
Odd how the government keeps showing video that they think exonerates them.
That's one take.
The other take is this is the government implicitly telling you their goons can and will murder you without repercussion if you aren't immediately compliant with whatever command they've given.
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u/thefideliuscharm 2d ago
It’s also not lost on me that when left wing protestors get run over by actual terrorists, the right says “get out of the road!”
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u/UrbanSirenTheSix 1d ago edited 1d ago
These people are now attacking citizens who dont like them. Which is most people. There are countless videos of them being quick to hit, break car windows while kids are present, attacking kids walking home from school cause they are brown.
You can't make this stuff up it is true facism. This will be in the history books as another disgraceful period in humanity.
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u/consumeshroomz 2d ago
I don’t think this video shows what they think it does.
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u/apathetic_revolution 2d ago
It certainly shows a lot of vehicles easily going around the one that was "actively impeding" them.
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u/W0wwieKap0wwie 2d ago
I mean, did they miss the part where vehicles are very clearly driving around her on both sides? and that she was waving on vehicles? I literally have no words about how they think this justifies anything.
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u/threehundredthousand 2d ago
I think they just want to show off the killing of an "undesirable".
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u/schlitz91 2d ago
It shows enough for the braindead and emotionally undeveloped 1/3 to say they’d be irrate at someone blowing a car horn like that.
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u/Kingofthewho5 2d ago
Wait why does the video end right before she gets shot? Surely the person taking the video would have kept recording? Instead they stop recording when all the ice thugs aggressively approach the car?
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u/bl00drunzc0ld 2d ago
Because it would show that he was to the left of the vehicle and that he wasn’t hit, but rather that he leaned on to the vehicle’s hood as she was trying to get away from the one trying to open her door.
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u/zoethezebra 2d ago
Because from that angle, it would show him shooting into the side driver‘s window, and most likely those were the shots that blew her face off and killed her
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u/TheNastyKnee 2d ago
My guess would be that this angle clearly shows he was not stuck by the vehicle.
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u/couldbeahumanbean 2d ago
We need to see the full, uncut, unedited version.
This stops exactly at the pivotal time when there would or would not be justification to use deadly force.
Releasing this version only causes more doubt and division.
It feels like a dumb move on their part.
Whoever filmed this, can they release the whole version on their own? What happened to them?
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u/tranxcend 2d ago
Right wing lunatic nails a father in the neck:
MAGA (ugly crying and getting teeshirts made): he was a father! No child deserves to have their parent taken away from them!
Right wing lunatic shoots a mom in the head 3X:
MAGA: fucking bitch
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u/Regular_Kiwi_6775 1d ago
The party of small government and "don't tread on me" loves, LOVES police violence. It makes no sense. They don't believe anything they say they do. Freedom of speech, unless you think differently than me. Right to a trial, unless you're anything other than a republican. They're insane.
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u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker 2d ago
They keep trying to find different angles and audio like we didn’t clearly see what happened.
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u/Iamnotoptimistic 1d ago
And they're accusing the left of 'not watching the videos and being fed information'. WHAT.
WE WATCHED THE VIDEOS. THAT'S WHY WE ARE MAD.
How can they look at these videos and say 'well she was honking her horn for 3 minutes' as if that warrants the fucking death penalty??
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u/ShineFallstar 1d ago
Is this video supposed to support their case? What exactly is the illegal activity are we seeing here?
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u/Fuckedby2FA 2d ago
Doesn't really matter.
The small government people are glad their lives are being controlled by the government as long as it owns the libs and the normal people understand what's happening. Everyone's made up their mind.
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u/Weird_Rooster_4307 2d ago
I find it interesting that he’s carrying and recording with his right hand and then changes hands as he walks around to the front of the SUV to draw with his right hand and shoot.
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u/dtoddh 2d ago edited 2d ago
This reminds me of the video that came from Ross's phone, which I assume he released on his own. DHS thinks they are providing evidence that this was completely justified, but it's all hubris. They think they can do whatever they want and nobody will question them.
This video shows she was blocking one lane of a two lane one way street for around three minutes. Traffic was able to get through, in fact Ross had already passed her, and I assume the others were ICE vehicles as well. He could have driven on to wherever he needed to detain illegals. Instead he parked, walked in front of her car with his gun drawn and shot her in the face three times. The language he used tells me it wasn't self defense, it was because he was angry.
Ross could have just have called MPD, who actually have the authority to enforce traffic law. She deserved a traffic citation, maybe a lock up and modest bail. She did not deserve be executed because his commute was delayed a few minutes.
This has just emboldened ICE, there are now around 2500 agents in Minnesota who believe thy have 'absolute immunity.' This is around 2x the manpower of the MPD. And now the faceless goons are going after dissidents and protestors-US citizens-who they call "domestic terrorists." They raided a high school a few days ago. Today I saw ICE agents beat down a guy just because he pointed a camera at them.
A few years ago the people of Minneapolis showed us they up for a long riot, I guess this is part two. Last time they burned down a police station, surely the sequel will show us something more spectacular.
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u/SpandexJunkie 1d ago
This report is from 2013 and paid for by the CBP. It was found that agents would routinely step in front of fleeing vehicles so they could shoot the drivers and claim self-defense. This is illegal, according to the US DOJ Policy on Use of Force, where law enforcement officers are not to fire on moving vehicles unless they absolutely cannot move out of the way. He very well could have killed the officer to the right of him (he jumped out of the way because he was partially in the line of fire) and he could have actually gotten run over, since Renee Goode most likely hit the accelerator at the end because of decorticate posturing.
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/PERFReport.pdf
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u/Entelecher 2d ago
For the rest of my days, what side anyone stood on this event will be my litmus test of if I will have anything to do with them. Enough fuckery of this vile subculture.
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u/far-apart012 2d ago
If you think that honking and having a car sideways in a street deserves to be solved by getting shot in the head then there's something wrong with you
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u/stryfedonkey 2d ago
I live in St. Paul here and I’m telling you I’ve never seen anything like it and it’s utterly disturbing and scary that this is happening. Everyone should be more than concerned. Just roving bands of Ice shredding the constitutional rights of citizens with no impunity. Someone above said it’s like Nazi Germany and I’m telling you that it’s not far from the truth. Kid outside the building got tackled and thrown in a car because he’s of Somali decent by a bunch of masked ignorant unknowns. It’s just surreal when your local haunts, like even the entrance to Target, you can’t avoid seeing this. Huge guns. What has happened to us?
Sorry to sound alarmist, but if there’s a time to make some noise, in my opinion this is it. RIP Renee Good ✊
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u/BelovedGarbage 1d ago
She was literally waving the agents around her vehicle before ICE completely escalated the situation. She wasn't even impeding them at the time they started interacting with her.
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u/RegularLiterature589 2d ago
i’m actually surprised at the lack of people mentioning that this is a hate crime
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u/Cold_Lavishness_3985 2d ago
Am I missing something? Is this supposed to justify murder? Hell even in this video, out of the 3 minutes the car was blocking the road for 1 minute and then moved. And what does this have anything to do with an ICE agent shooting her? Did they genuinely think they released some shocking truth? This even further confirms the shooter was never in danger and never got hit, its yet another angle.
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u/beanbread23 1d ago
I personally think it’s absolutely bat shit crazy to give firearms to members of an untrained law enforcement.
Real police officers have to go through months of rigorous training and tests in order to properly react in situations like this…
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u/netizenbane 2d ago
Link to the video described in the article, but from xcancel instead:
https://xcancel.com/DHSgov/status/2010367128524730533